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Title: Scientology TV. Coming To Save Us All
Post by: Cheerful Charlie on March 12, 2018, 04:00:09 PM
https://tonyortega.org/2018/03/11/scientology-tv-goes-live-tomorrow-at-8-pm-eastern-on-app-directv/#more-46252

Last night in Clearwater, Scientology leader David Miscavige revealed that Scientology TV is now an app which is downloadable for both Android and Apple systems, and that programming will begin streaming on the app, and at DirecTV, tomorrow night at 8 pm Eastern.
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Wheeeeeeee!  Just what we need.  This may be a laugh riot.  What can Scientology put on their TV channel that anybody would want to watch?

Scientology promises Scientologists great OT powers and abilities for those who become OT 7's and 8s.  Of course they cannot prove any of that so it's probably a good idea to avoid the whole subject.
Rail and rant about all those Scientologists who left and criticized Scientology publicly?  Probably some of that.  But the optics aren't good to overdo that.  As Mark Twain said, "It's the hit dog what yelps".
Peddle their phony organizations such as Narcanon?  Probably a lot of that.

Scientology has long used psychiatry as a handy whipping boy to divert attention from their own many failings.  Expect more of that.  Try to rebut charges of their Fair Game attacks on critics?  They have long done this and have long disputed that they did this.  This is a cult though, that even as their website claims Scientology dropped the Fair Game policies in 1968, has argued after that date in at least two courts of law that Fair Game is a part of Scientology's scriptures and is thus protected religious speech under the first amendment.  How they handle this is going to be interesting.

The thing is, their many critics will be watching this TV nonsense and will be right on top of any bullshit like Trump on a cheeseburger.  Expect fireworks.
Title: Re: Scientology TV. Coming To Save Us All
Post by: Unbeliever on March 12, 2018, 04:16:45 PM
Ha - "like Trump on a cheeseburger" - I like that! ;-D

Or maybe "like trump on a porn star" - that would also work.  :azn:
Title: Re: Scientology TV. Coming To Save Us All
Post by: Sal1981 on March 12, 2018, 05:42:26 PM
I can only think how heavily moderated and regulated the fuckup of a minefield in ideology and politics it's gonna be. I mean, the amount of trigger words associated with Scientology is off the charts! Xenu! Thetans!
Title: Re: Scientology TV. Coming To Save Us All
Post by: Cheerful Charlie on March 12, 2018, 06:22:29 PM
Quote from: Sal1981 on March 12, 2018, 05:42:26 PM
I can only think how heavily moderated and regulated the fuckup of a minefield in ideology and politics it's gonna be. I mean, the amount of trigger words associated with Scientology is off the charts! Xenu! Thetans!

You like Scientology's Space Opera nonsense? Then check out this.  From an old cassette tape recorded by Hubbard his own self, aliens!  Marcabs!  Fourth and Fifth invader forces on Mars and Venus!  Note the hilarious repeated mispronouncing of the word galaxy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGKH4Ami59g

Sop laughing, damn you! This is science!
Title: Re: Scientology TV. Coming To Save Us All
Post by: Baruch on March 12, 2018, 07:17:45 PM
Yes, give me that old scifi religion ... aliens built the pyramids, because the Egyptians were all "meh" about it.
Title: Re: Scientology TV. Coming To Save Us All
Post by: Unbeliever on March 12, 2018, 07:31:28 PM
No, aliens had to build the pyramids because the Jews ran away.
Title: Re: Scientology TV. Coming To Save Us All
Post by: Baruch on March 12, 2018, 07:36:13 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on March 12, 2018, 07:31:28 PM
No, aliens had to build the pyramids because the Jews ran away.

If you had Pharaoh's chariots after you, you would run, not walk away too.
Title: Re: Scientology TV. Coming To Save Us All
Post by: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 03:20:14 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on March 12, 2018, 07:31:28 PM
No, aliens had to build the pyramids because the Jews ran away.

The Egyptians build the pyramids and willingly. The Jews weren't even there.  There is no archeological evidence of the Jews in Egypt in any large numbers.
Title: Re: Scientology TV. Coming To Save Us All
Post by: GSOgymrat on March 15, 2018, 03:34:47 AM
Scientology is the Amway of religions.
Title: Re: Scientology TV. Coming To Save Us All
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 15, 2018, 03:36:38 AM
Next up:

'Cooking with bullshit.'

Followed by a rerun of

'Xenu, The warrior princess'

And our feature presentation for tonight: anything starring Travolta or Tom Cruise.
Title: Re: Scientology TV. Coming To Save Us All
Post by: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 04:50:18 AM
Quote from: GSOgymrat on March 15, 2018, 03:34:47 AM
Scientology is the Amway of religions.

Scientology is dumber than Amway.  At least Amway has some reality..
Title: Re: Scientology TV. Coming To Save Us All
Post by: Baruch on March 15, 2018, 04:59:00 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 03:20:14 AM
The Egyptians build the pyramids and willingly. The Jews weren't even there.  There is no archeological evidence of the Jews in Egypt in any large numbers.

True ... small numbers of Hebrews or Jews at various times in Egypt.  But then this isn't a story written by Egyptians.  The greatest Jewish presence was during the heyday of Alexandria, under the Romans (until 115 CE failure of multiculturalism).  Egyptians prove that all the people can be fooled all the time.  Hapiru (not Jews) were just one category of Semite (the other being Shosu (bedouin).  Hebrews were mixed race people who were hirelings.  Like Hindus, Egyptians considered herding to be "unclean" and hired others to do it for them.  The best place for seasonal fodder was the E Nile Delta aka Goshen.  Hapiru were also employed as mercenaries.  Jewish mercenaries were employed in Elephantine (1st cataract, Upper Egypt) in the Persian period.  At that time they were at (Leontopolis in Greek), NE of what is now Cairo.  The actual history is ... a mix of myth and legend.  Look up Hyksos.  By Persian time, they were Judeans and Samaritans, not Hapiru.  The Tanakh (OT) as we now have it was written in the Persian period, with last bits written after the conquests of Alexander, but before the Romans.  And both during the Persian period, and before, there was more than one Jewish Temple.

The actual polemic ... goes back to the first Pharaoh, long before Abraham.  There was always a battle between nomadic peoples and settled peoples.    Egypt had to face Libyans to the W, Nubians to the S and Semites to the E.  And often particular ethnic groups were specialists in particular parts of the economy, because of trades being handed down from father to son.  Kenites for example were traditional itinerant metal workers (in the Bronze age).  Until recently itinerant iron workers were providing iron kiln technology on a village by village basis in the Sahel of W Africa.  There would be clan based animal husbandry and different clans for full time fishing industry for example.  The common man however was a fellahin (in Egypt) a irrigation farmer, often working as a serf.
Title: Re: Scientology TV. Coming To Save Us All
Post by: Baruch on March 15, 2018, 05:00:24 AM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on March 15, 2018, 03:36:38 AM
Next up:

'Cooking with bullshit.'

Followed by a rerun of

'Xenu, The warrior princess'

And our feature presentation for tonight: anything starring Travolta or Tom Cruise.

Xena ... and Gabriel.  Liked them better than Hercules and Iolas.  So you hate Greco-Romans?  How Belgic of you.
Title: Re: Scientology TV. Coming To Save Us All
Post by: Baruch on March 15, 2018, 05:01:04 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 15, 2018, 04:50:18 AM
Scientology is dumber than Amway.  At least Amway has some reality..

Got a garage full of Amway products, still trying to sell?  Vertical marketing schemes ... exactly how the modern economy works ;-(  See Elon Musk.
Title: Re: Scientology TV. Coming To Save Us All
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 15, 2018, 05:37:29 AM
Quote from: Baruch on March 15, 2018, 05:00:24 AM
Xena ... and Gabriel.  Liked them better than Hercules and Iolas.  So you hate Greco-Romans?  How Belgic of you.

I don't hate Greco-Romans.
I just feel like we are braver than them.
Title: Re: Scientology TV. Coming To Save Us All
Post by: Baruch on March 15, 2018, 06:22:45 AM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on March 15, 2018, 05:37:29 AM
I don't hate Greco-Romans.
I just feel like we are braver than them.

Well you have a lot of Nervi to say so ;-)  Greco-Romans just more organized, better trained, better supplied.  Tribal militia can only do so much.

Bravery (élan) is that untranslatable French word, which we see in Gauls and Germans (and rebel yell of Celtic Confederates in Europe and USA).

Nothing wrong with that ... being part Coleti (SW Belgic) and Trinovanti (N of Hadrian's Wall) myself ;-)
Title: Re: Scientology TV. Coming To Save Us All
Post by: Cheerful Charlie on March 17, 2018, 12:22:06 AM
https://vinaire.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/history_of_man.pdf

Hubbard's infamous "A History of Man".    More brain damage in one little book than any other religious work one can find.

"FOREWORD
This is a cold-blooded and factual account of your last sixty trillion years.
The test of any knowledge is its usefulness. Does it make one happier or more able? By
it and with it, can he better achieve his goals ?
This is useful knowledge. With it the bond again see, the lame walk, the ill recover, the
insane become sane and the sane become saner. By its use the thousand abilities Man has
sought to recover become his once more."

....
And so, may I make this simple requestâ€"don’t get spectacular until a few of the boys make it. You
don’t want to be lonesomeâ€"and you’ll need reinforcements if a war gets declared on thetans
here. The preclear may think he can do it alone if he gets cleared of a bodyâ€"he’ll need more
help and company than he thinks. So, again, as a final note on this chapter, let’s not go
upsetting governments and putting on a show to “prove” anything to Homo Sapiens for a
while- it’s a horrible temptation to knock off hats at fifty yards and read books a couple of
countries away and get into the rotogravure section and the Hearst Weekliesâ€"but you’ll just
make it tough on somebody else who is trying to get across this bridge. Let sleeping Sapien
snore in the bulk for yet awhile.

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More brain damage than the Quran!  More big claims than the Bible!  More kookery than the Book of Mormon!  Join Scientology!  Become a super-human with super-human abilities!
Title: Re: Scientology TV. Coming To Save Us All
Post by: Cavebear on March 17, 2018, 03:10:47 AM
Quote from: Cheerful Charlie on March 17, 2018, 12:22:06 AM
https://vinaire.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/history_of_man.pdf

"FOREWORD
This is a cold-blooded and factual account of your last sixty trillion years.


You can stop at that 1st sentence.  The universe isn't 60 trillion years old...