I rarely have more than a 5 or 6 conversations a years outside of work and manditory social interactions when getting my hair done, shopping, discussions about repairs to my bike when I don't have tools or time to do it myself. Part of this is due to finally accepting no matter what I do in terms of practiced social skills, tgey can only go so far in having a positive outcome so long as I present a reasonably normative image within a context that is also percevieved as normative. I can maintain that illusion at best for only short periods, and even then prerequisite conditions such as the people I'm interacthing with have for example some history of friendships with African-Americans outside of tge common urban stereotype. As you may be aware, this implicit bias us just as problematic when in tge company of other Afro-Am as with Euro-Am, sometimes worse. Despite being brown skinned I'm almost never identified as Black. My appearance, cadence of speech, dialect, the way I think and express how I think disturb people. After spending the first two thirds of my life being attacked for being different, I withdrew. I'm too Black for Whites and too White for Blacks. My ideas? Last Fall a woman interupted me to seriously ask if I knew what a thought experiment is? I lkng ago stopped wondering why people can't look things up, but rather than go down that senseless rabbit hole, I pulled up Wikipedia and sebt it to her over Facebook messenger. She laughed then said, "Oh, I know what it neans, I was curious if you know what it means?" Then in December a leader in motorcycle apoarel industry, asked me if I knew what a fashion jouse was? I founded House ZedenVogue, Armour, Cyberphysical Apparel, and Accessories. The goal is one of creating armour and gear so hot looking that nonody would think about riding without it, so beautiful people will buy motorcycles as a excusd to wear iur fashion. Until then I had some 2,400 plus connections on LinkedIn mostly Masters, Doctorates, and decision-makers in human factors, design, environnental psychology, motorsports in general in cluding dozens of professional motorcycle racers. There was no possible way she didn't know this. Ive reached a point in my life where I'm just fed up with being gaslighted by people I respect.
I would like to discuss here Culture as a Technology and the underlying framework such an Intentional Common Sense based on Evidentiary Science would require. Obviously this is a reformation or a fork of Social Contract Theory. The major problem I have is that the majority of people studied, a relatively small size since Western society assumes what is true for us must be true for everyone, but in this case safeky bares out children are enculcated in belief, taught WHAT to think, rather than HOW to recognize tgeir own deliberate thought, and begin learning to control and adapt how they think. One of tge consequences is an unassailable assumption that intelligence, being smart is a matter of knowing a lotvand using the data store tovexcdll in very specific forms of problem solving. My Father for example does NY Times Crossword Puzzle. It would be pointless to explain practicing the samething differently is not tge same as in nature where the catagories and variations of crisis are an entirely different proposition. He like most people seek comfort while seeking a solution. Those in the pursuit of comfort and those in the pursuit true, rarely or ever travel in the same cart. This is a truism I tend to keep to myself.
Don't spam your business cards. And yes, some truly gay people post here.
Oddly, I feel like Penny when Sheldon is presenting his thoughts on String theory....
Welcome, Drithliu!
Quote from: aitm on February 24, 2018, 08:23:40 AM
Oddly, I feel like Penny when Sheldon is presenting his thoughts on String theory....
Us puppers get that.
Hi, and use Chrome's spell check function.
Quote from: Baruch on February 24, 2018, 07:12:36 AM
Don't spam your business cards. And yes, some truly gay people post here.
A couple of assrrtions that beg clarification: (a.) The caution not to spam business cards. I have no business cards nor made any inference that can be logically construed as promotional. The only mention of my professional interest was in literally setting tge context within which another person attempted to publically humiliate me. I find it telling that your first overture is to ignore the point of the narrative, forgo any expression of welcome in preference for your cautioning me to not misbehave; (b.) I in no form or fashion solicited any specific interest in gay men. Perhaps you are conflating all people not Cisgender and Heterosexual as somehow "Gay"?
Whether from column (a.) or (b.) both of your points fall far short of an invitation to fellowship and moreover suggest or judicial biases. Being disrespectful, however politely expressed, remains disrespect.
I need to know now how common this skirting around tge fules of the forum is because if I haven't made it absolutely clear, I am fed up with this kind of nonsense.
Quote from: Sal1981 on February 24, 2018, 12:18:34 PM
Hi, and use Chrome's spell check function.
I do have it turned on, and its effectiveness varies acvirdjng to the kind of web app it's working in. SimpleMachine is seriously ancient code base. I'm akso at a disadvantage using a smartphone while the display on my laptop is being replaced. This is an Androud with a beta version of Google's keyboard and spell check. It seems to wakeup when I'm on Discourse forum software, the new update to WordPress.com also gets a performance boost, oddly Google Docs on Android us as disappointing as ever.
Anuyway, as I expressed at some length, these interactionsvrareky hapoen outside of business. I'm a Systems Analyst witn a vackground and continuing study in Environmental Psychology, Human Factors over 40 years in IT the last 10 in the financial sector. I vaiked on that in 2006 to build a career in accordance with values born more of reason than cultural assumption.
So am I to understand that you were so overwhelmingly distracted by my poor spelling, that you could not understand the points I was making?
My brother just said to tell you I'm not being sarcastic.
Quote from: Drithliu on February 24, 2018, 12:52:23 PM
So am I to understand that you were so overwhelmingly distracted by my poor spelling, that you could not understand the points I was making?
Yes. It's almost unreadable.
I am not sure what your point is. Your spelling, creation of new words and sentence structure is almost impossible to follow.
Quote from: Drithliu on February 24, 2018, 12:29:16 PM
I need to know now how common this skirting around tge fules of the forum is because if I haven't made it absolutely clear, I am fed up with this kind of nonsense.
We are here for "our" nonsense....you are certainly welcome to join in, but no one escapes nonsense here. Welcome again, or the door is to the left..no it's on the right...I was walking backwards.
welcome to our little band of heathens
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Quote from: Sal1981 on February 24, 2018, 01:02:00 PM
Yes. It's almost unreadable.
Foreign agent or bot comes to mind...
Quote from: Mike Cl on February 24, 2018, 02:28:18 PM
I am not sure what your point is. Your spelling, creation of new words and sentence structure is almost impossible to follow.
Curious.
When I don't understand something or someone my first thought isn't they are wrong. A litany of questions general comes to mind after careful thought. I say careful because contrary to the common sense, there in fact is no end to bad questions that lead to worse.
New words? Implying I'm creating new terms? In case you aren't up on the whole critical thinking as practice rather than its theory, testing one's own assumptions is essential to the qualifier of "critical" in the name.
We actual professional critical thinkers ie Systems Analysts, view it as good form to include with specificity, what it is we are talking about.
Not that I shy from the creation of words, in fact I get paid for doing it, and paid well. Dracherz for example, a Germanish contraction born if Drache and Herz as in dragon and heart. Great brand, stunned no one owned. Repurposing of common combinations? In the early days of Personal Computers, I had one of a handful of businesses in the world building White Label boxes for community computers stores popping up all over like mushrooms in a cow pasture. I helped a startup pick a name, created their corporate id package, "PC City". Displaying a characteristic lack of diligence, a multi-million dollar corporation later took the name, my boss Stacey smugly came to a financial understanding.
So down to cases, what "invented" word dear hearts? Were I in fact creating language, a more useful question, one unencumbered by implicit biases would more appropriately have been a request for a more precise definition, not a vague inference making words up is wrong.
I can direct you to several noteworthy texts on linguistics I study and use as reference that certainly can help you avoid making unqualified statements like that in the future.
The thing I constitutionaly cannot do is trust my perceptions and thoughts. I mansged to turn thatninto a profession gor tge past 40 years. You lot appear to trust your thinking, appear incapable of testing your assumptions. I base this solely on evidence of this exchange. I told you why I am here so that shouldbhave informed your interpretation if everything that followed.
The degree to which is didn't gives credence to my assertion that eschewing overt supernaturalism in no way suggests people don't own equally improbable beliefs. That the more dependant their selfimage is on the validity of these assumptions, the less likely to regularly subject them for critical self-reflection.
Culture as a Technology would largely demand such critical self-reflection. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, an understanding, much less disciplined practice of self criticism seens lacking. I don't see this exchange growing into a productive experience for me.
I don't see anyone saying you're wrong, just that your message is difficult to impossible to decipher. I honestly have no idea what you're talking about either.
QuoteThe thing I constitutionaly cannot do is trust my perceptions and thoughts. I mansged to turn thatninto a profession gor tge past 40 years.
Well, yes. I see what you did here.
SeriouslyðŸ˜'?
While good natured levity among peers is certainly expected thinly clad disparagements betraying an implicit narcissism is not. I'm deeply skeptical you imagine racism, homophobia, abd the litany of human social maladaptions are only expressed by people incapable of communicating about an American 9th grade English level. My eyes were opened as a chikd in Cincinnati, Ohio some 45 years ago, upon discovering my brilliant, would be peers of MENSA were White Supremacists. Having grown into my teens being taught an image of bigots as dull and ignorant, I had to recalibrate to cope with a world where gaslighting is tge default norm in communication. I've never gone a week without a so-called White telling me or another lgerson of color something is wrong or deficient in our thought processes. The truly disturbing experiences are being savaged by their tokens, ethnic proxies given metaphoric firm in the film Get Out.
Last October a woman I thought attractive, personable, intelligent interrupted me to ask what a "Thought Experiment" was? I was surprised, but good naturely used my phone to call up a definition and sent it to her using Facebook messenger. She laughed and said, I know what it is I am skeptical you know what it is.
I design clothes, cyberphysical armour that is fashion forward for motorsports. A woman in a position of leadership in our industry sanctioning bodybasked me if I knew what a house of fashion was? I own ZedenVogue Armour which is in fact a house couture by ever concieveable definition. These behaviors atevsad but since I've been living with it all my life, it has zero emotional impact beyond a certain sadness at the incredible waste of creative intelligence diverted to duch a pointless and vain exercise.
You and your friends have abused my goodwill and there is no way to unring that bell.
Quote from: aitm on February 24, 2018, 04:55:17 PM
We are here for "our" nonsense....you are certainly welcome to join in, but no one escapes nonsense here. Welcome again, or the door is to the left..no it's on the right...I was walking backwards.
Quote from: Drithliu on February 26, 2018, 04:15:54 AM
You and your friends have abused my goodwill and there is no way to unring that bell.
If your skin is that thin, you would not have lasted long anyway. Nice of you to stop by however, tell your friends how lovely we are!
Quote from: Drithliu on February 26, 2018, 12:19:45 AM
Curious.
When I don't understand something or someone my first thought isn't they are wrong. A litany of questions general comes to mind after careful thought. I say careful because contrary to the common sense, there in fact is no end to bad questions that lead to worse.
New words? Implying I'm creating new terms? In case you aren't up on the whole critical thinking as practice rather than its theory, testing one's own assumptions is essential to the qualifier of "critical" in the name.
We actual professional critical thinkers ie Systems Analysts, view it as good form to include with specificity, what it is we are talking about.
Not that I shy from the creation of words, in fact I get paid for doing it, and paid well. Dracherz for example, a Germanish contraction born if Drache and Herz as in dragon and heart. Great brand, stunned no one owned. Repurposing of common combinations? In the early days of Personal Computers, I had one of a handful of businesses in the world building White Label boxes for community computers stores popping up all over like mushrooms in a cow pasture. I helped a startup pick a name, created their corporate id package, "PC City". Displaying a characteristic lack of diligence, a multi-million dollar corporation later took the name, my boss Stacey smugly came to a financial understanding.
So down to cases, what "invented" word dear hearts? Were I in fact creating language, a more useful question, one unencumbered by implicit biases would more appropriately have been a request for a more precise definition, not a vague inference making words up is wrong.
I can direct you to several noteworthy texts on linguistics I study and use as reference that certainly can help you avoid making unqualified statements like that in the future.
The thing I constitutionaly cannot do is trust my perceptions and thoughts. I mansged to turn thatninto a profession gor tge past 40 years. You lot appear to trust your thinking, appear incapable of testing your assumptions. I base this solely on evidence of this exchange. I told you why I am here so that shouldbhave informed your interpretation if everything that followed.
The degree to which is didn't gives credence to my assertion that eschewing overt supernaturalism in no way suggests people don't own equally improbable beliefs. That the more dependant their selfimage is on the validity of these assumptions, the less likely to regularly subject them for critical self-reflection.
Culture as a Technology would largely demand such critical self-reflection. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, an understanding, much less disciplined practice of self criticism seens lacking. I don't see this exchange growing into a productive experience for me.
Drithliu, my statement stands---what is your point? And, are you creating new words? I suspect you are a sloppy writer--consider this sentence of yours--"The thing I constitutionaly cannot do is trust my perceptions and thoughts. I mansged to turn thatninto a profession gor tge past 40 years. You lot appear to trust your thinking, appear incapable of testing your assumptions. I base this solely on evidence of this exchange. I told you why I am here so that shouldbhaveC." I don't know what you mean. I think 'mansqed" means managed? If not, then that is a new word for which I don't know the meaning. 'Thatninto" means 'that into', but not sure. 'gor tge'--is that 'for the'???? 'shouldbhave'--I guess, that means should have???
If you have a sincere desire to communicate a particular idea or way of thinking, it is incumbent upon you to clearly state that idea or thinking. That includes editing misspelled words so that you are clear in what it is you are saying. Your misspelling and jumbled way of writing leaves me with a very muddled view of what it is you are talking about. I am not saying you are wrong, only that I don't really know what it is you are driving at.
I am not entirely convinced at this time that Drithliu isn't an implementation of Racter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racter)...
Yeah, you are baffling me bit here, too.
At least with ELIZA you get Rogerian counseling.
Quote from: Baruch on February 28, 2018, 06:08:00 AM
At least with ELIZA you get Rogerian counseling.
Rogerian counseling, you say. Is that important to you?
Quote from: Cavebear on February 28, 2018, 02:48:56 PM
Rogerian counseling, you say. Is that important to you?
Well played, Ms Doolittle.
Quote from: Baruch on February 28, 2018, 08:14:35 PM
Well played, Ms Doolittle.
Does that bother you? Tell me about what concerns you...