Muslim Student Tries To Get Another Student Expelled For Refusing To Wear A Hijab (http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/02/muslim-student-expelled-hijab/)
QuoteA Muslim student tried to get another student expelled Thursday, which was World Hijab Day, after the second student refused to wear a hijab.
A Muslim student at the University of Central Florida said that she invited fellow student Kathy Zhu to try on a hijab, reported Twitchy. After Zhu declined her offer, the Muslim student, identified by Zhu to The Daily Caller News Foundation as UCF health sciences student Rayyan Sukkarieh, took to Twitter, posting “let’s get this girl expelled.â€
Zhu showed pictures on Twitter of the UCF World Hijab Day booth, which displayed Sukkarieh, as well as signs reading “free headscarfs†and “my hijab is a symbol of understanding.â€
Iran Arrests 29 Women As Headscarf Protests Intensify (https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/iran-arrests-29-women-as-headscarf-protests-intensify-1807774)
QuoteTEHRAN, IRAN: Tehran police have arrested 29 women for appearing in public without a headscarf as protests against the dress code in force since the Islamic revolution of 1979 intensify, Iranian media reported Friday.
Those arrested were accused of public order offences and referred to the state prosecutor's office, the Fars, ILNA and Tasnim news agencies reported without elaborating.
Chief prosecutor Mohammad Jafar Montazeri had played down the escalating protests on Wednesday, saying they were "trivial" and "childish" moves possibly incited by foreigners.
He had been asked about a woman detained earlier this week for standing on a pillar box in a busy street without the mandatory headscarf.
Unprecedented images of at least 11 women protesting the same way had been widely shared on social media.
A prominent human rights lawyer told AFP on Tuesday that one of the detained women had her bail set at more than $100,000 (80,000 euros).
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SATAN LAUGHING SPREADS HIS WINGS
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We did pranks too in fraternity, in college. I bet the sororities did similar things. These crazy kids, without them, I would have gotten away with the caper in my stupid disguise.
Of course, in Iran, it is the law, not a matter of choice. You aren't advocating disobedience to the law, are you pr126?
They were surprisingly accurate in representing the hijab as a choice, by choosing to try to punish the girl who didn't participate.
More respect to those who resist ethnic rules...
Women around the world burn their hijabs in protest against the headscarf as report shows half of Iranians think nobody should be made to wear them (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5356991/Middle-Eastern-women-burn-hijabs-NoHijabDay.html)
QuoteVideos showing women burning the hijab are being posted on social media in solidarity with a protest movement against enforced headscarf in Iran.
Posted online with the hashtag #NoHijabDay, a response to last week's World Hijab Day event, the videos show women removing their headscarves and setting them on fire in front of the camera.
It comes as the Iranian government released a report showing that half of the population do not believe that the state should dictate what women wear, despite dozens of arrests this month.
Quote#REALFEMINIST burn hijabs, not wearing it.
What else does a real feminist do, you big strong man? I need you to tell me.
Quote from: Mermaid on February 07, 2018, 10:30:53 AM
What else does a real feminist do, you big strong man? I need you to tell me.
They fight real oppressions, not perceived ones.
BTW, those #REALFEMINIST are Muslims.
Quote from: pr126 on February 07, 2018, 10:37:49 AM
They fight real oppressions, not perceived ones.
BTW, those #REALFEMINIST are Muslims.
Oh, fake oppression? Tell me more about what women experience, I need you to explain it to me.
Quote from: Mermaid on February 07, 2018, 10:40:40 AM
Oh, fake oppression? Tell me more about what women experience, I need you to explain it to me.
Get lost.
Quote from: pr126 on February 07, 2018, 10:37:49 AM
BTW, those #REALFEMINIST are Muslims.
What? I thought Islam was unchangeable and unquestionable, and anyone who says otherwise is not a #TrueMuslim...
The first victims of Islam are the Muslims themselves.
Since 1948 10 million Muslims were killed by fellow Muslims for not being Muslim enough.
Quote from: pr126 on February 07, 2018, 10:43:38 AM
Get lost.
Why? I have things to learn from you. Plus, aren't you here to have a dialog? Or are you only interested in validation of your complaining about feminists?
Funny how pr will cry about people trying to silence him, but on the drop of a hat will tell anyone who disagrees with him that they need to shut up and leave a thread on a public forum...
No, the left (SJW) does not want or need a dialog.
The witch hunt of the 21st century:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR7jWitZNvI
Quote from: pr126 on February 07, 2018, 01:49:24 PM
No, the left (SJW) does not want or need a dialog.
The witch hunt of the 21st century:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR7jWitZNvI
Clearly YOU do not want a dialog. You started this thread, not me, or "The Left".
Quote from: Mermaid on February 07, 2018, 01:51:44 PM
Clearly YOU do not want a dialog. You started this thread, not me, or "The Left".
Maybe if you provided a dialog he wouldn't have reason to tell you to get lost? Shi will argue against what pr says but at least he opens a dialog, gives worthwhile objection
Quote from: Munch on February 07, 2018, 02:16:03 PM
Maybe if you provided a dialog he wouldn't have reason to tell you to get lost? Shi will argue against what pr says but at least he opens a dialog, gives worthwhile objection
Just the Body of Landru rejecting Federation officers (and their PC prime directives). Except when Capt Kirk insists that the PC prime directives need to be ignored on a case by case basis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTUkzJbzdqU
One mistake is the false negative ... thinking that gay people for instance, are implicitly anti-social. I hear they can be quite ... giggle ... social.
Woman Arrested For Removing Hijab in Tehran Refuses to Repent Despite Facing 10 Years in Prison (https://www.iranhumanrights.org/2018/02/woman-arrested-for-removing-hijab-in-tehran-refuses-to-repent-despite-facing-10-years-in-prison/)
QuoteNarges Hosseini, who was arrested for protesting Iran’s compulsory hijab, refused to appear in court to face charges punishable by up to 10 years, including “encouraging immorality or prostitution.â€
“Ms. Hosseini did not even appear in court to express remorse for her action. She said she objects to the forced hijab and considers it her legal right to express her protest,†Hosseini’s lawyer, Nasrin Sotoudeh, told the Center for Human Rights in Iran (CHRI) on February 5, 2018.
Hosseini, 32, has been in detention since January 29, 2018. She was unable to pay the $135,000 USD bail set by the judge presiding over her case.
She was arrested on January 29, 2018, for posting a photo on social media of herself standing on a bench holding her white headscarf like a flag on Tehran’s Revolution’s Street.
All women in Iran are required to cover their hair and bodies in public.
Vida Movahed was the first woman to be arrested after she did the same thing in late December 2017 in Tehran. The act of removing your headscarf in public and waving it like a flag has become a symbol for the “Girls of Revolution Street†movement, which advocates choice over compulsion for women’s clothing.
“Ms. Hosseini is being held in difficult circumstances in Gharchak Prison [south of Tehran] but she is not prepared to say she is sorry,†Sotoudeh, a prominent human rights lawyer, told CHRI. “She believes she’s innocent.â€
Hosseini is facing the charges of, “openly committing a harÄm [sinful] act†and “violating public prudency†under Article 638 and “encouraging immorality or prostitution†under Article 639.
According to Article 639 of Iran’s Islamic Penal Code, “The following individuals shall be sentenced to one year to 10 years’ imprisonment… A â€" Anyone who establishes or directs a place of immorality or prostitution. B â€" Anyone who facilitates or encourages people to commit immorality or prostitution.â€
Let's put on hijabs in solidarity with our Muslim sisters.
Quote from: pr126 on February 07, 2018, 11:45:52 PM
Woman Arrested For Removing Hijab in Tehran Refuses to Repent Despite Facing 10 Years in Prison (https://www.iranhumanrights.org/2018/02/woman-arrested-for-removing-hijab-in-tehran-refuses-to-repent-despite-facing-10-years-in-prison/)
Let's put on hijabs in solidarity with our Muslim sisters.
There are different hijabs for all different Islamic women. Try reading some of the reason they wear the hijab. In any case not all the left are crybaby SJW's, I for example am moderately liberal with a sense the political correctness and social justice needs to be issued but not forced relentlessly. The far left can be ridiculous and when they push it on someone who looks at the Muslim religion negatively and says negative things about Islam( which we already know as a shit anyway), does come to Islams aid and protects them from people saying horrible things about their culture and religion. I have to take a shot of liqueur every time I hear that bullshit. What pr is saying here is the Islamic people kill their own savagely for the culture and religious laws and we have to respect them? We should never respect or give safe space to people murdering and beating their own for such a human right to decide for their own.
So mermaid and Shiranu, when you are against the negative attacks on Islam should you be defending a culture based on a shittly religion? I think you should admire pr's vigilance to the reporting of Islamic people beating and killing their own kin because shitty ideals and stop making fun because yall want to protect Islamic bull
I doubt they're defending the imprisonment of women because they refuse to wear some headgear.
Quote from: pr126 on February 07, 2018, 11:45:52 PM
Let's put on hijabs in solidarity with our Muslim sisters.
How about let's keep our own noses out of the personal choices of other people? You can start there. I don't understand or support Christianity, either, but it's none of my damn business and it's not about me. That's what makes the world go around.
Quote from: Mermaid on February 08, 2018, 07:41:08 AM
How about let's keep our own noses out of the personal choices of other people? You can start there. I don't understand or support Christianity, either, but it's none of my damn business and it's not about me. That's what makes the world go around.
except for the fact that these people aren't just wanting to live by their religion, they are trying to hammer it into other cultures and get other societies to conform to it with the help of wanker sjws who think 'its progressive' to force burqas on people, all to appease their migration support quota.
Mermaid wroteQuoteHow about let's keep our own noses out of the personal choices of other people? You can start there.
You mean that you will keep your nose out of my posts? You can start here.
Can you? I think not.
Quote from: Munch on February 08, 2018, 08:23:31 AM
except for the fact that these people aren't just wanting to live by their religion, they are trying to hammer it into other cultures and get other societies to conform to it with the help of wanker sjws who think 'its progressive' to force burqas on people, all to appease their migration support quota.
You are ridiculous.
Quote from: pr126 on February 08, 2018, 08:48:41 AM
You mean that you will keep your nose out of my posts? You can start here.
Can you? I think not.
This is a discussion forum. You posted this here. You don't get to dictate who responds and how. You are clearly not interested in discussion, you only want people to agree with you jerk you off.
That's really pathetic. Seriously.
No comment necessary.
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Quote from: Mermaid on February 08, 2018, 09:12:30 AM
You are ridiculous.
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Quote from: Munch on February 08, 2018, 08:23:31 AM
except for the fact that these people aren't just wanting to live by their religion, they are trying to hammer it into other cultures and get other societies to conform to it with the help of wanker sjws who think 'its progressive' to force burqas on people, all to appease their migration support quota.
I can't think of many religions that don't want to spread 'their word'. All organized religions would love to force you into their belief system.
Quote from: Mike Cl on February 08, 2018, 10:31:52 AM
I can't think of many religions that don't want to spread 'their word'. All organized religions would love to force you into their belief system.
then why does Islam and its practices always get a pass from certain progressive groups instead of being called out on it?
Munch wrote:Quotethen why does Islam and his practices always get a pass from certain progressive groups instead of being called out on it?
Simple. Because they
force it with lethal coercion. We respect that.
Other religions do not threaten violence. More fool them.
Here is the evidence:
(https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/TROP.jpg?)
What other religion can match this?
Quote from: Munch on February 08, 2018, 10:48:41 AM
then why does Islam and its practices always get a pass from certain progressive groups instead of being called out on it?
Why do you think they get a pass? You're wrong.
YOU want to force your beliefs on them for practicing their religion. It's wrong no matter who you are or what proclivities you have. It's pure hypocrisy to discriminate against one religion while practicing or tolerating another.
Quote from: Mermaid on February 08, 2018, 11:30:18 AM
Why do you think they get a pass? You're wrong.
YOU want to force your beliefs on them for practicing their religion. It's wrong no matter who you are or what proclivities you have. It's pure hypocrisy to discriminate against one religion while practicing or tolerating another.
what gave you the opinion that I either practice or tolerate any other religion. I don't tolerate any religion when said religion is trying to force its indoctrination on others. Islam, Christianity, Judaism. I'll only tolerate them when their a practice that keeps to itself and doesn't try and force its way into things like government or education.
Quote from: Munch on February 08, 2018, 10:48:41 AM
then why does Islam and its practices always get a pass from certain progressive groups instead of being called out on it?
Beats me! Why do any organized religion get a pass on any of its negative actions and teachings? I don't buy the idea that we are friends because we have the same enemy.
Quote from: Mike Cl on February 08, 2018, 12:11:15 PM
Beats me! Why do any organized religion get a pass on any of its negative actions and teachings? I don't buy the idea that we are friends because we have the same enemy.
You aren't Middle Eastern. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Maybe you aren't Middle Eastern, but a lot of other people are.
Quote from: Munch on February 08, 2018, 12:00:36 PM
what gave you the opinion that I either practice or tolerate any other religion. I don't tolerate any religion when said religion is trying to force its indoctrination on others. Islam, Christianity, Judaism. I'll only tolerate them when their a practice that keeps to itself and doesn't try and force its way into things like government or education.
On this we agree. So telling someone it's wrong to wear a (insert religious clothing of choice here) is sheer hypocrisy.
Quote from: Mermaid on February 08, 2018, 11:30:18 AM
Why do you think they get a pass? You're wrong.
YOU want to force your beliefs on them for practicing their religion. It's wrong no matter who you are or what proclivities you have. It's pure hypocrisy to discriminate against one religion while practicing or tolerating another.
So is it hypocrisy to discriminate against one politics while practicing or tolerating another?
Quote from: Sal1981 on February 08, 2018, 05:26:13 AM
I doubt they're defending the imprisonment of women because they refuse to wear some headgear.
Socialism turns society into a prison.
Quote from: Mike Cl on February 08, 2018, 10:31:52 AM
I can't think of many religions that don't want to spread 'their word'. All organized religions would love to force you into their belief system.
All political systems want to bring you their form of death and taxes.
Quote from: Baruch on February 08, 2018, 12:53:10 PM
You aren't Middle Eastern. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Maybe you aren't Middle Eastern, but a lot of other people are.
Really??!! Wow! A lot of people are Middle Eastern???! I had no idea!
Quote from: Mermaid on February 08, 2018, 12:53:15 PM
On this we agree. So telling someone it's wrong to wear a (insert religious clothing of choice here) is sheer hypocrisy.
So if someone walked around wearing a Swastika, not attacking anyone, not spreading his beliefs around, just wearing a Swastika around uni or in public, you'd be fine with that?
Tell me what's the difference between a Swastika and the Hijab?
Quote from: Munch on February 08, 2018, 02:44:33 PM
So if someone walked around wearing a Swastika, not attacking anyone, not spreading his beliefs around, just wearing a Swastika around uni or in public, you'd be fine with that?
Tell me what's the difference between a Swastika and the Hijab?
I wouldn't be fine with it, but that's the person's right and I would not have the right to interfere. I don't like the God Hates Fags people either, but it's their right to exercise their fucked up beliefs.
What's the difference between a swastika and a hijab? Do you seriously not know that?
Why stop there? Do you object to people wearing a yarmulke? A cross?
Quote from: Mermaid on February 08, 2018, 02:48:38 PM
I wouldn't be fine with it, but that's the person's right and I would not have the right to interfere. I don't like the God Hates Fags people either, but it's their right to exercise their fucked up beliefs.
What's the difference between a swastika and a hijab? Do you seriously not know that?
Why stop there? Do you object to people wearing a yarmulke? A cross?
You tell me, you want to talk about symbolism
Quote from: Munch on February 08, 2018, 02:53:41 PM
You tell me, you want to talk about symbolism
I do?
One is a well-known symbol of the Nazi Party. The other is religious dress, not a symbol.
One might better compare a hijab to a yarmulke.
Quote from: Mermaid on February 08, 2018, 03:27:14 PM
I do?
One is a well-known symbol of the Nazi Party. The other is religious dress, not a symbol.
One might better compare a hijab to a yarmulke.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/this-is-a-symbol-of-oppression-please-dont-celebrate-it/news-story/45843572e31a0cda3b2218d63f419fd8
The word itself means barrier or partition. Western feminists have been trying to make it a symbol of feminism, but when the thing today remains as something women are forced to wear in certain middle eastern areas, that just makes it a joke seeing women in the west claim its anything other then oppressive
Quote from: pr126 on February 07, 2018, 11:06:40 AM
The first victims of Islam are the Muslims themselves.
Since 1948 10 million Muslims were killed by fellow Muslims for not being Muslim enough.
Do you consider this a bad thing? If Islam is the threat you believe it to be isn't it better that Muslims fight amongst themselves than organize against non-Muslims? Isn't it in the interests of countries like the USA to undermine the governments of Muslim majority countries and keep them disorganized? I'm asking this question in complete seriousness.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on February 08, 2018, 05:40:22 PM
Do you consider this a bad thing? If Islam is the threat you believe it to be isn't it better that Muslims fight amongst themselves than organize against non-Muslims? Isn't it in the interests of countries like the USA to undermine the governments of Muslim majority countries and keep them disorganized? I'm asking this question in complete seriousness.
That is very Dark State of you to suggest that. Of course the Deep State is always working hard for the common good ;-)
Quote from: Mermaid on February 08, 2018, 03:27:14 PM
I do?
One is a well-known symbol of the Nazi Party. The other is religious dress, not a symbol.
One might better compare a hijab to a yarmulke.
I am very careful to wear mine in public. History demonstrates that all Gentiles are psychopathic killers.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on February 08, 2018, 05:40:22 PM
Do you consider this a bad thing? If Islam is the threat you believe it to be isn't it better that Muslims fight amongst themselves than organize against non-Muslims? Isn't it in the interests of countries like the USA to undermine the governments of Muslim majority countries and keep them disorganized? I'm asking this question in complete seriousness.
To the first question. Not at all.
95% of all armed conflicts around the world involve Muslims.
That is why we call it the religion of peace.
List of ongoing armed conflicts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts)
Add to that 32,500 terrorist attacks since 9/11
To put it simply, Islam is at war with the non-Muslim world since 622 AD.
Jihad (holy war) was and still is Islam's sixth pillar.
Quote from: Mermaid on February 07, 2018, 10:30:53 AM
What else does a real feminist do, you big strong man? I need you to tell me.
I think an error that protest groups make is insulting people who are trying to understand (maybe even poorly). Educating is better than insult. When someone doesn't understand the fullness of another's concerns, insults can drive them away.
Quote from: Cavebear on February 09, 2018, 01:36:42 AM
I think an error that protest groups make is insulting people who are trying to understand (maybe even poorly). Educating is better than insult. When someone doesn't understand the fullness of another's concerns, insults can drive them away.
Maybe if there is nothing to argue then insults and in some cases, violence (Antifa) is all there is?
Quote from: pr126 on February 09, 2018, 02:04:45 AM
Maybe if there is nothing to argue then insults and in some cases, violence (Antifa) is all there is?
If there is nothing to argue, them where is any difference between sides?
By that, I mean that the SJWs, neo-Marxist believe that their ideology is the only way, and any dissent must be met by silencing the opposition by any means necessary (See Yvette Felarca.)
Thanks to university indoctrination camps, it is now widespread.
The long march through the institutions. Frankfurt school.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_long_march_through_the_institutions
Quote from: pr126 on February 09, 2018, 02:20:34 AM
By that, I mean that the SJWs, neo-Marxist believe that their ideology is the only way, and any dissent must be met by silencing the opposition by any means necessary (See Yvette Felarca.)
Thanks to university indoctrination camps, it is now widespread.
The long march through the institutions. Frankfurt school.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_long_march_through_the_institutions
So you are saying you hate Trump now?
Quote from: Cavebear on February 09, 2018, 02:45:42 AM
So you are saying you hate Trump now?
Why would I do that?
Or is that a Kathy Newman question?
Quote from: pr126 on February 09, 2018, 02:49:41 AM
Why would I do that?
Or is that a Kathy Newman question?
Who?
I asked because many things about Trump don't seem like things you would agree with.
Quote from: Cavebear on February 09, 2018, 04:01:56 AM
Who?
I asked because many things about Trump don't seem like things you would agree with.
who?
There is a thread with Jordan Peterson and Kathy Newman interwiev.
But personally, while Trump is not perfect, -who is? - he is better for the USA and the rest of the world than HRC would have been.
You don’t have to agree.
Quote from: pr126 on February 09, 2018, 04:41:21 AM
who?
There is a thread with Jordan Peterson and Kathy Newman interwiev.
But personally, while Trump is not perfect, -who is? - he is better for the USA and the rest of the world than HRC would have been.
You don’t have to agree.
I won't. We have never had a failed Presidency like Trump's. Clinton would have at least managed a government...
And actually, I don't know who either of those people (Jordan Peterson and Kathy Newman) are.
https://youtu.be/k-rE03PGQfA
Quote from: Cavebear on February 09, 2018, 04:46:54 AM
I won't. We have never had a failed Presidency like Trump's. Clinton would have at least managed a government...
And actually, I don't know who either of those people (Jordan Peterson and Kathy Newman) are.
I think it is too early to judge.
Quote from: pr126 on February 09, 2018, 06:06:55 AM
I think it is too early to judge.
Insert pet peeve, people who say someone in a position of power is the worst one yet, when they've not even completed their role, and you have a history book of people in that position who have done worse.
People saying trumps the worst, would be say the exact same thing 50, 70, 100 years ago to whoever was president then
Quote from: Cavebear on February 09, 2018, 04:46:54 AM
I won't. We have never had a failed Presidency like Trump's. Clinton would have at least managed a government...
And actually, I don't know who either of those people (Jordan Peterson and Kathy Newman) are.
You hibernate too much ;-) You went thru LBJ and Nixon ... and are an atheist, yet you think that Trump is the anti-Christ? (rhetorical question)
I don't care for him either, but people our age should show some perspective, particularly compared to historical situations to compare to.
If the American people are sufficiently partisan, then a civil war will happen. It did once before. And no, neither Trump nor Lincoln were responsible for it. They just lived in interesting times (Chinese curse).
Quote from: Cavebear on February 09, 2018, 02:11:12 AM
If there is nothing to argue, them where is any difference between sides?
Two evil sides argue all the time ... they are evil.
As a partisan for Hillary, you are like a partisan for LBJ ... who doesn't get what is happening in Vietnam.
People are manipulated by the media. They are not reporters but opinion shapers.
The media is owned by the left.
Quote from: Munch on February 08, 2018, 05:34:29 PM
Western feminists have been trying to make it a symbol of feminism,
That's complete bullshit.
Quote from: Cavebear on February 09, 2018, 01:36:42 AM
I think an error that protest groups make is insulting people who are trying to understand (maybe even poorly). Educating is better than insult. When someone doesn't understand the fullness of another's concerns, insults can drive them away.
Mansplaining to women about what feminism is doesn't help either.
Quote from: Cavebear on February 09, 2018, 01:36:42 AM
I think an error that protest groups make is insulting people who are trying to understand (maybe even poorly). Educating is better than insult. When someone doesn't understand the fullness of another's concerns, insults can drive them away.
Pr is not even remotely interested in understanding. Trust me, even when I agreed with him many years ago, he wasn't even remotely interested in understanding. He is just a broken record, repeating himself over, and over, and over....
Quote from: pr126 on February 09, 2018, 08:01:07 AM
People are manipulated by the media. They are not reporters but opinion shapers.
The media is owned by the left.
Owned by the Deep State, which owns both the Right and the Left. Good cop/bad cop works.
Quote from: Mermaid on February 09, 2018, 09:39:46 AM
Mansplaining to women about what feminism is doesn't help either.
Yes, only ask hardened Stalinists about the benefits of Communism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgN0P-fqBkk
Quote from: pr126 on February 12, 2018, 08:41:28 AM
https://www.youtub..e.com/watch?v=pgN0P-fqBkk
It all pretty much stems from the base of where this starts off at, you take women who have been completely indoctrinated by the oppressed culture they live in, trying to normalize it, and that message spreads to western cultures, picked up by fake feminists who have never faught for anything meaningful, and take that indoctrinated message and spin it into a new narrative, that those who don't accept things like the vale are the enemy.
All this stems from religious indoctrination, and the fools who aren't smart enough to pick up on it. Also people like Linda Sarsour very well know this, but go ahead with it because regressive modern feminists are easy to manipulate.
It also stems from the fact morons in these 'progressive' groups can't separate the hijab from the people, thinking if they don't include it in making shit like hijab barbie, that it might be seen as racist not including that aspect of their culture, despite it being the most subjective aspect of their culture women in the middle east want to escape from.
Pure propaganda.
Women are conditioned to accept the hijab as normal with the help of the useful idiots.
Quote from: pr126 on February 09, 2018, 06:06:55 AM
I think it is too early to judge.
Except it's really not. Hillary would have been more of the same; that is what both sides hated about her. Trump has been more of the same and worse, so he is objectively worse than what we could have expected from Hillary.
I can't believe you are actually still skwaking that line. Even for you, that is reaching some unexplored territories of head-up-your-own-ass-ism.
In terms of modern presidents, he is easily the worst since Regan, and we are only a year in. He has already proven himself to be anti science, anti education, anti environment and has filled his cabinet almost exclusively with people who are anti what those positions are suppose to do. He has proven himself an enemy to the LGBT community and a huge friend to cronyism and nepotism. That trend isn't likely to 180 in the next 3 years, which simply put statistically puts him on track to be one of the worst presidents ever.
And to find someone as morally deplorable though, which is a huge part of the presidency, you have to go back to Jackson... and I think even Jackson might have had a little more ethics than Trump does.
I'm sorry, but to see atheists defend someone who appointed a theocrat as their VP and an anti-education woman as the head of education, and a gay man defend a president who is anti-LGBT and defend neo max is... to see those two then accuse everyone else of being blinded by politics or just being ideologues would be laughable if it wasn't becoming the norm.
I didn't expect much from Trump or Hillary, and I am getting just that ;-)
Hillary and Trump were both pre-selected by the MIC.
Quote from: Shiranu on February 12, 2018, 11:52:13 AM
I'm sorry, but to see atheists defend someone who appointed a theocrat as their VP and an anti-education woman as the head of education, and a gay man defend a president who is anti-LGBT and defend neo max is... to see those two then accuse everyone else of being blinded by politics or just being ideologues would be laughable if it wasn't becoming the norm.
Well you are pretty blind if you think anyone here is defending him. Ever consider its just entertaining to see the insane shit he does, and the way people react to it is just as entertaining?
also being an atheist doesn't account for where someone stands politically, hadn't you realized that yet?
Saying it's too early to have an opinion about him isn't defending him?
Right.
And yes, I realise that; just like being black, gay, a woman, etc. doesn't mean you won't vote against your own self interest for anti-women, anti-gay, racist politicians just because they agree with you on some niche issues, or defend those people as an overall package.
I'm not saying that doesn't happen, I'm saying it is, politely, fucking retarded.
Quote from: Shiranu on February 12, 2018, 05:27:43 PM
Saying it's too early to have an opinion about him isn't defending him?
Right.
And yes, I realise that; just like being black, gay, a woman, etc. doesn't mean you won't vote against your own self interest for anti-women, anti-gay, racist politicians just because they agree with you on some niche issues, or defend those people as an overall package.
I'm not saying that doesn't happen, I'm saying it is, politely, fucking retarded.
As retarded as people defending pedophiles because of it being 'progressive' to do so? And yes, those on the right do it too, its retarded either side of the coin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJZWNkJrKJc
Maybe I should write a comedy show called mohammad and friends, about the prophet coming to america with his underage wives and the hi-jinx from living in modern america dealing with that.
"As retarded as people defending pedophiles because of it being 'progressive' to do so? "
I don't think it was progressives voting for Roy Moore...
Joking aside, at least in American politics, there aren't any such "progressives" in power, nor anywhere near power. The same can't be said of racist, sexist, theocratic politicians.
Quote from: Shiranu on February 12, 2018, 07:37:30 PM
"As retarded as people defending pedophiles because of it being 'progressive' to do so? "
I don't think it was progressives voting for Roy Moore...
Joking aside, at least in American politics, there aren't any such "progressives" in power, nor anywhere near power. The same can't be said of racist, sexist, theocratic politicians.
With Tulsi Gabbard in the Army reserve, and Rep Ellison being Muslim ... nope, no real progressive. Lots of liars though.
Quote from: Baruch on February 09, 2018, 07:29:17 AM
You hibernate too much ;-) You went thru LBJ and Nixon ... and are an atheist, yet you think that Trump is the anti-Christ? (rhetorical question)
I don't think Trump is "the anti-christ", as I don't think there was ever actually a christ. Atheists believe in neither.
But I DO think Trump is an imbecilic, narcissist, misogynist, wanna-be-dictator, who can't say a complete sentence without lying, or insulting, or deliberately trying to tear down generally-beneficial government agencies and programs, and who can't sit down long enough to listen to (never mind READ) standard governmental briefings on matters a President SHOULD be informed about.
And that is being KIND to him...
Quote from: Cavebear on February 12, 2018, 11:35:15 PM
I don't think Trump is "the anti-christ", as I don't think there was ever actually a christ. Atheists believe in neither.
But I DO think Trump is an imbecilic, narcissist, misogynist, wanna-be-dictator, who can't say a complete sentence without lying, or insulting, or deliberately trying to tear down generally-beneficial government agencies and programs, and who can't sit down long enough to listen to (never mind READ) standard governmental briefings on matters a President SHOULD be informed about.
And that is being KIND to him...
Yes, but us Brights will never be numerous to elect anyone more important than the local chess club president ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on February 13, 2018, 05:47:14 AM
Yes, but us Brights will never be numerous to elect anyone more important than the local chess club president ;-)
Remembered that, did you? LOL! So much for my applying for the Secretary Of Staff position...
Quote from: Shiranu on February 12, 2018, 07:37:30 PM
"As retarded as people defending pedophiles because of it being Joking aside, at least in American politics, there aren't any such "progressives" in power, nor anywhere near power. The same can't be said of racist, sexist, theocratic politicians.
Omarosa: 'We would be begging for the days of Trump if Pence became president'http://amp-usatoday-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/332573002
Former White House staffer Omarosa Manigault Newman has a warning for Trump haters longing for an impeachment: Be careful what you wish for. You could end up with Mike Pence, whom she describes as "scary" and "extreme." ...
"As bad as y’all think Trump is, you would be worried about Pence," she told her housemates on CBS' Big Brother: Celebrity Edition. "Everybody that's wishing for impeachment might want to reconsider their life. We would be begging for days of Trump if Pence became president, that’s all I’m saying. He’s extreme."
Laughing, the minister's wife added, "I'm Christian, I love Jesus, but he thinks Jesus tells him to say things. I'm like, 'Jesus didn't say that.' "
Quote from: GSOgymrat on February 13, 2018, 02:21:53 PM
Omarosa: 'We would be begging for the days of Trump if Pence became president'
http://amp-usatoday-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/332573002
Former White House staffer Omarosa Manigault Newman has a warning for Trump haters longing for an impeachment: Be careful what you wish for. You could end up with Mike Pence, whom she describes as "scary" and "extreme." ...
"As bad as y’all think Trump is, you would be worried about Pence," she told her housemates on CBS' Big Brother: Celebrity Edition. "Everybody that's wishing for impeachment might want to reconsider their life. We would be begging for days of Trump if Pence became president, that’s all I’m saying. He’s extreme."
Laughing, the minister's wife added, "I'm Christian, I love Jesus, but he thinks Jesus tells him to say things. I'm like, 'Jesus didn't say that.' "
which is something trump haters just don't seem to take into account. They think if trumps removed, pence will go too? Not how it works, sorry. Trump might be a clown, but he's the clown keeping the fire breather from burning everyone right now, which he probably knew, how better to keep impeachment then having someone worse then you as the result
Quote from: Munch on February 13, 2018, 03:29:31 PM
which is something trump haters just don't seem to take into account. They think if trumps removed, pence will go too? Not how it works, sorry. Trump might be a clown, but he's the clown keeping the fire breather from burning everyone right now, which he probably knew, how better to keep impeachment then having someone worse then you as the result
I take that into account. As Agnew had to go before Nixon, Pence would have to go before Trump. Unless things got REALLY desperate.
Quote from: Munch on February 13, 2018, 03:29:31 PM
which is something trump haters just don't seem to take into account. They think if trumps removed, pence will go too?
Nobody thinks that. Why would you assume everyone who wants Trump removed is a blithering moron? That won't serve you well.
Quote from: Mermaid on February 15, 2018, 01:50:20 PM
Nobody thinks that. Why would you assume everyone who wants Trump removed is a blithering moron? That won't serve you well.
All that would serve me is entertainment, because as someone not from america thats all it would be. At worst I'm give a frown to whatever mike pence would do, at best I'd just laugh at the people who wanted trump out and got him in. And I'd do it over here in the uk, where having a deeply conservative leader over there doesn't effect much here.
Quote from: Munch on February 15, 2018, 02:09:04 PM
All that would serve me is entertainment, because as someone not from america thats all it would be. At worst I'm give a frown to whatever mike pence would do, at best I'd just laugh at the people who wanted trump out and got him in. And I'd do it over here in the uk, where having a deeply conservative leader over there doesn't effect much here.
Apparently you missed what I said so I'll clarify it: Assuming you are smarter than everyone else will not serve you well.
So happy you find it all so entertaining.
Seriously, a country of 300 million people being run by a theocract (a country that coincidently is extremely relevant to your life since we are the second most powerful country in the world and thus dictates your economy and who your government has to kiss ass to)... is funny?
I love that Europeans are sitting back laughing at our situation. Just know if we go down, we will bring you fuckers down with us...
Quote from: Shiranu on February 15, 2018, 05:03:51 PM
Seriously, a country of 300 million people being run by a theocract (a country that coincidently is extremely relevant to your life since we are the second most powerful country in the world and thus dictates your economy and who your government has to kiss ass to)... is funny?
I love that Europeans are sitting back laughing at our situation. Just know if we go down, we will bring you fuckers down with us...
my, that is most un-pc of you. Bee in your bonnet?
Don't jump the shark again, its funny watching both trump supporters and screaming anti trumpers go at each other like fire ants and hornets. Thats the funny, because least if your going at each other neither sides turning america into some Marxist or white trash nightmare.
QuoteI love that Europeans are sitting back laughing at our situation. Just know if we go down, we will bring you fuckers down with us...
We in Europe are already “down†more than you can imagine.
It will take a long time for the USA to be where Europe is now.
But if you vote democrat, you will be there sooner.
Quote from: pr126 on February 16, 2018, 01:32:48 AM
We in Europe are already “down†more than you can imagine.
It will take a long time for the USA to be where Europe is now.
But if you vote democrat, you will be there sooner.
Perhaps. It's hard to know when people lie through their teeth to sell their agenda, though.
I know Europe has problems, that doesn't take a rocket scientist. But the waters have become so murky with outright lies and quarter truths that from the outside looking in it is damn near impossible to gauge how bad it really is... and I would reckon even from the inside it's hard to see.
Statistically though, you are not worse off than us. That is reality. In basically every metric of human rights and living standards, you slaughter us... and those statistics have not started any type of drastic change in the last 20+ years.
You only believe what will support your political agenda.
Confirmation bias.
Also you do not watch videos, read articles which are contrary to your beliefs, deeming them lies without examination.
Living in an echo chamber.
Marxist indoctrination makes sure that no such material should be accepted.
Mhmm.
You know, when people agree you have a point and you insist they are wrong... you are therefor saying your position is wrong.
"In the moment of crisis, the wise build bridges and the foolish build dams."
Quote from: pr126 on February 16, 2018, 01:32:48 AM
We in Europe are already “down†more than you can imagine.
It will take a long time for the USA to be where Europe is now.
But if you vote democrat, you will be there sooner.
It is all Europe's fault ... they came over here and totally trashed the place. So don't laugh at the crazy New Worlders.
I actually read liberal spectrum to anti-semite stuff. Hard to stomach.
Blessed Mary wore the hijab. And that's a fact.
Islamic groups are determined to push the propaganda.
Get your hijab! Without it, you are a whore. Uncovered meat. (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/oct/26/australia.marktran)
Islamic group launches hijab billboard campaign (http://wgntv.com/2018/02/19/islamic-group-launches-hijab-billboard-campaign/)
QuoteOAKBROOK TERRACE, Ill. -- A local Islamic group launched a billboard campaign Monday to educate people about the hijab, the headscarf that's often worn by Muslim women.
The billboards are the first of their kind in the country, designed by a group called GainPeace, which encourages non-Muslims to call the organization and ask questions to gain a better understanding of why women wear the hijab. The billboards draw a similarity to the Christian religion where Mary is considered the mother of Jesus. She also wore a hijab.
The billboards are located on Interstate 294 near Interstate 88, and Interstate 55 and LaGrange Road.
"Wearing the hijab is 100 percent my choice. As contrary to the popular belief, hijab in no way oppresses us. In fact, it indicates the opposite as hijab symbolizes the power to women, and not inferiority," Sara Ahmed, GainPeace volunteer, said.
"Hijab is a simple yet powerful reminder of strength. I stand here today so that generations tomorrow do not feel deprived or threatened by their choice of dress. So that they may have the courage to stand by their beliefs, and so that this piece of cloth does not label them or categorize them with an unwanted label," Kiran Malik, GainPeace volunteer, said.
The women who spoke about the billboards at Monday's news conference also talked about the hatred they have encountered while wearing a hijab. One woman was almost run off the road by someone yelling slurs and her. Another talked about her daughter being called a "towel head."
GainPeace is hoping these billboards help those with different beliefs have a better understanding of Islam. They say they've already gotten many phone calls, most of which have been positive.
Jesus and Mary were both Jewish. The Christians and Muslims can take a hike.
Women protesting against wearing the hijab in Iran will be charged with inciting PROSTITUTION and jailed for up to ten years as regime cracks down on growing dissent (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5440775/Anti-hijab-protesters-Iran-inciting-PROSTITUTION.html)
QuoteIranian women removing hijab to be charged with 'inciting prostitution'
If found guilty they may face a jail sentence of up to ten years
Women are protesting the compulsory headscarf, which is religious law in Iran
So far, some 35 women have been arrested in the capital Tehran alone
What they should really worry about, is waking up without their balls. Don't mess with women.
Quote from: pr126 on February 28, 2018, 10:19:49 AM
Women protesting against wearing the hijab in Iran will be charged with inciting PROSTITUTION and jailed for up to ten years as regime cracks down on growing dissent (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5440775/Anti-hijab-protesters-Iran-inciting-PROSTITUTION.html)
I don't doubt that. Religious idiots are idiots!
Quote from: Baruch on February 28, 2018, 02:07:16 PM
What they should really worry about, is waking up without their balls. Don't mess with women.
I don't consider you very different from the Iranian nutsos. From an atheist POV, you both seem a lot alike.
Quote from: Cavebear on February 28, 2018, 02:28:04 PM
I don't consider you very different from the Iranian nutsos. From an atheist POV, you both seem a lot alike.
I don't mess with women (that way) ... so no, I am not very Iranian at all. If a woman wants to wear a hijab, I let her. If a woman doesn't want to wear a hijab, I let her. See that is how a domesticated male works, you find out what the woman thinks, then you agree with her.