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Title: Brave New World
Post by: pr126 on January 25, 2018, 01:46:18 AM
Is Canada becoming a fascist state?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPqWPON2jUE
Title: Re: Brave New World
Post by: Baruch on January 25, 2018, 02:46:38 AM
Marxist and fascists know that the way to a society's heart, is thru its children.  But not even Stalin or Mao would dare try what is being tried now.  There is no slavery ... to private parties, but we are all slaves to the State.  And you can't protest it, because it is for your own good, to protect victims, and the do gooders are well intentioned ;-)
Title: Re: Brave New World
Post by: pr126 on January 25, 2018, 03:53:08 AM
"All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state." - Benito Mussolini
Title: Re: Brave New World
Post by: Baruch on January 25, 2018, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: pr126 on January 25, 2018, 03:53:08 AM
"All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state." - Benito Mussolini

Even Churchill considered Mussolini to be cool.
Title: Re: Brave New World
Post by: Jason78 on January 26, 2018, 06:38:35 AM
It's difficult to tell what someones position is on something when they just post a video.    Are you for or against this?  What are your problems with this issue exactly? 
Title: Re: Brave New World
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on January 26, 2018, 06:59:45 AM
He's alt-right.
Title: Re: Brave New World
Post by: Cavebear on January 27, 2018, 01:47:46 AM
Quote from: Baruch on January 25, 2018, 12:19:40 PM
Even Churchill considered Mussolini to be cool.

Evidence?
Title: Re: Brave New World
Post by: Cavebear on January 27, 2018, 01:49:06 AM
Quote from: Jason78 on January 26, 2018, 06:38:35 AM
It's difficult to tell what someones position is on something when they just post a video.    Are you for or against this?  What are your problems with this issue exactly?

One reason I seldom pay attention to a post based entirely on a video...
Title: Re: Brave New World
Post by: Baruch on January 27, 2018, 10:04:13 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on January 27, 2018, 01:47:46 AM
Evidence?

it is called Google ..

https://gwydionwilliams.com/44-fascism-and-world-war-2/why-churchill-admired-mussolini/

but my actual recollection is from a line, in a "wilderness years" drama, spoken by the actor playing Churchill.  That and the time he nearly got to meet Hitler, before 1933.
Title: Re: Brave New World
Post by: Cavebear on January 27, 2018, 10:59:47 AM
Quote from: Baruch on January 27, 2018, 10:04:13 AM
it is called Google ..

https://gwydionwilliams.com/44-fascism-and-world-war-2/why-churchill-admired-mussolini/

but my actual recollection is from a line, in a "wilderness years" drama, spoken by the actor playing Churchill.  That and the time he nearly got to meet Hitler, before 1933.

Gwydion Williams wrote a decent book about Welsh history (which I may buy, BTW after reading about it) but his evaluation of Churchill doesn't seem so well researched and has a lot of speculation...

Title: Re: Brave New World
Post by: Baruch on January 27, 2018, 04:28:17 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on January 27, 2018, 10:59:47 AM
Gwydion Williams wrote a decent book about Welsh history (which I may buy, BTW after reading about it) but his evaluation of Churchill doesn't seem so well researched and has a lot of speculation...

He seems a bit trollish.  Outside mainstream historiography.  His website is very political, and his publications don't seem to be well covered by Amazon.

https://gwydionmadawc.com

But I can recommend ...

https://www.amazon.com/Journey-Through-Description-Penguin-Classics/dp/0140443398/ref=sr_1_18?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1517088417&sr=1-18&keywords=Welsh+medieval+history

Gerald of Wales is one of my Norman-Welsh cousins.

This one is standard ...

https://www.amazon.com/History-Wales-John-Davies/dp/0140284753/ref=pd_sim_14_10?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0140284753&pd_rd_r=D2SN3AZZAF075VP6EQ4K&pd_rd_w=5qcez&pd_rd_wg=q2a9D&psc=1&refRID=D2SN3AZZAF075VP6EQ4K