This sounds more dire than the current California drought. Or they may be sounding an alert for a worst case scenario. At any rate, it sounds like a potential nightmare.
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/its-true-cape-towns-water-supply-three-months-away-shutdown
April 21, according to recent projections from the Western Cape Water Supply District.
“Day Zero is the day that the water resource system runs out of water,†said Mark New, the AXA Research Chair in African Climate Risk at the University of Cape Town, in an email. What does this mean? “No water coming out the taps. Toilets cannot be flushed. Fire services cannot get water out of the fire hydrants. People will have to walk to water tankers to fill up drinking water bottles.†And there will be knock-on effects, such as schools considering whether they can operate with no water on campus.
According to New, there are three main strategiesâ€"over and above the extreme water restrictions already in placeâ€"to try and forestall Day Zero:
•Drilling and tapping emergency groundwater supplies
•Bringing several portable desalinization plants on line
•Cutting off water to neighborhoods for periods of each day, to reduce demand even further.
“It is not clear whether the groundwater and desalination options will be operating in time, and with sufficient quantity, to make a difference,†he said. Even then, the supply could still run short, as evident in Figure 2 below.
Cape Town currently supplies its residents with about 600 million liters of water a day, which is down significantly from just a few months ago as a result of demand management. The new desalination plantsâ€"which convert seawater into drinking water by extracting saltâ€"would together provide no more than about 10 million liters per day. Tapping groundwater at various depths could help a great deal more, providing as much as 150 million liters/day by April, according to Piotr Wolski, a hydroclimate expert at the University of Cape Town. Even then, Figure 2 shows that Day Zero would still arrive by early May unless conservation is ramped up and/or the winter rains are prompt and heavy.
"A fair and just heavenly punishment for the US allowing gay marriage." Pope Francis.
Quote from: SGOS on January 20, 2018, 09:59:09 AMAccording to New, there are three main strategiesâ€"over and above the extreme water restrictions already in placeâ€"to try and forestall Day Zero:
•Drilling and tapping emergency groundwater supplies
•Bringing several portable desalinization plants on line
•Cutting off water to neighborhoods for periods of each day, to reduce demand even further.
Wouldn't sporadically cutting off water just encourage hoarding?
I remember a few years ago in NC we had a gasoline shortage due to a hurricane temporarily shutting down Texan refineries. Some pumps ran dry. Instead of conserving gas to compensate, people mobbed the remaining gas stations and stockpiled. Shockingly, this behavior made the problem worse, not better.
The shut-offs should be on a regular, predictable schedule. You run your washer before 11 AM or wait until 1 PM to get the clothes rinsed. Don't have to hoard because it won't be off for days.
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 20, 2018, 11:18:39 AM
Wouldn't sporadically cutting off water just encourage hoarding?
I'm sure it would. It may have a minimal effect on conservation, I suppose. But people are going to stockpile if they are given the chance, especially when things get serious. If the situation is just "tight," you can fine lawn waterers, because you can see them doing it. They did that in my town in Montana one summer. I think it helped. Neighbors would report abusers. We didn't run out, anyway.
On my trip to Hawaii, which took just over three weeks, I only utilized 20 gallons of my 150 gallon water tank. I didn't take any showers, but I was amazed at how little I got by on. I used sea water to wash dishes and clean. But in a house, people don't think about it. Lots of water goes straight from the faucet to the drain. One toilet flush uses more than you could drink in a day. Water your lawn? I really don't know how much that consumes.
S Africa is near the Namib Desert ... so go figure ;-(
People have been predicting for years that many parts of the world would soon be fighting over water. I guess they were right. South Africa may not be fighting a war over it yet, but I bet it won't be long.
Here's a link about water wars:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/coming-water-wars
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 20, 2018, 04:06:01 PM
Here's a link about water wars:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/coming-water-wars
Easy, bottle good public property water and sell it for more than gasoline sells for per pint.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 20, 2018, 04:01:16 PM
People have been predicting for years that many parts of the world would soon be fighting over water. I guess they were right. South Africa may not be fighting a war over it yet, but I bet it won't be long.
Knowing the US, we will declare a war against drought, and lose the war. Certainly the declared war against desertification is being lost. Like Vietnam, the point isn't to win, but to make money while losing.
Well, now some people like to drink "raw" water:
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/raw-water-dangerous-natural-food-fad-promises-health-gives-diarrhea-ncna837381
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 20, 2018, 04:08:32 PM
Well, now some people like to drink "raw" water:
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/raw-water-dangerous-natural-food-fad-promises-health-gives-diarrhea-ncna837381
There are cheap water filters, that we provide to Third World people ... we will need this in the US. Think Russia or China will send us foreign aid?
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 20, 2018, 10:56:37 AM
"A fair and just heavenly punishment for the US allowing gay marriage." Pope Francis.
When did he say that?
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 20, 2018, 04:08:32 PM
Well, now some people like to drink "raw" water:
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/raw-water-dangerous-natural-food-fad-promises-health-gives-diarrhea-ncna837381
So...I could've made serious money if only I had the bright idea to sell people untreated water? My lack of imagination is holding me back. And my conscience. And laws (I would hope).
Raw water? Fucking hell!
Cape Town is surrounded by raw water. Ocean water. These raw water idiots are invited to live off this raw water and see how long they last. They are literally too stupid to live.
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on January 20, 2018, 04:36:11 PM
When did he say that?
It was during our pillow talk. He is such a cutie!
OR it's a running joke that the churches blame any damn disaster anywhere on some place allowing gay marriage.
Quote from: Hakurei Reimu on January 21, 2018, 01:05:43 AM
Raw water? Fucking hell!
Cape Town is surrounded by raw water. Ocean water. These raw water idiots are invited to live off this raw water and see how long they last. They are literally too stupid to live.
I recently read about the new "raw water" movement. Laughed my ass off! At least they will remove themselves from the gene pool as the parasites and microbes kill them...
We should encourage things like this. Darwin would approve.
Raw shit movement for starters.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 24, 2018, 06:09:06 AM
We should encourage things like this. Darwin would approve.
Raw shit movement for starters.
Let them drink cake...
Quote from: Cavebear on January 24, 2018, 06:55:18 AM
Let them drink cake...
You probably already know that the solid residue from sewage treatment plants is often referred to as "cake".
I'm currently reading The Ghost Map (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ghost_Map), about how cholera is spread by drinking contaminated water. I guess these "raw" water enthusiasts don't know about such things, or they wouldn't be so avid about it.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 24, 2018, 07:36:42 AM
You probably already know that the solid residue from sewage treatment plants is often referred to as "cake".
I might possibly have known that the make the joke better...
Quote from: Cavebear on January 24, 2018, 02:38:29 PM
I might possibly have known that the make the joke better...
A point in the processing of uranium the product is a yellowish, crumbly mass known as ...
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 24, 2018, 02:22:18 PM
I'm currently reading The Ghost Map (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ghost_Map), about how cholera was spread is drinking contaminated water. I guess these "raw" water enthusiasts don't know about such things, or they wouldn't be so avid about it.
Natural = good. Artificial = bad. Untreated water is natural water, therefore it is good.
Dysentery is quite natural, coming from the completely natural untreated raw water, so it must be awesome!
Quote from: Hakurei Reimu on January 24, 2018, 08:00:10 PM
Dysentery is quite natural, coming from the completely natural untreated raw water, so it must be awesome!
Nothing is unnatural, artificial things are just what the humans aka natural random collections of atoms, produce.
It's all that fluoride that's bad for you. Kidding.
Quote from: Baruch on January 24, 2018, 08:04:36 PM
Nothing is unnatural, artificial things are just what the humans aka natural random collections of atoms, produce.
That's a useless terse definition for "natural". Why even use that word, when it encompasses everything?
Quote from: Sal1981 on January 25, 2018, 06:49:54 AM
That's a useless terse definition for "natural". Why even use that word, when it encompasses everything?
Monosodium Glutamate isn't "natural".
Quote from: Sal1981 on January 25, 2018, 06:49:54 AM
That's a useless terse definition for "natural". Why even use that word, when it encompasses everything?
Words that encompass everything, have no distinction, and thus are meaningless. Temperature by itself doesn't mean much, but hot or cold do.
One should make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler - Einstein
The point of Newspeak is to make thinking impossible. Thus the point of using over generalization (aka existence/reality) or ambiguity.
Words are weapons, and materialists are armed.
Here's a picture from the book The Ghost Map:
(http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/snow/graphics/deathdispensary.jpg)
"Death's Dispensary"
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 25, 2018, 01:19:02 PM
Here's a picture from the book The Ghost Map:
(http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/snow/graphics/deathdispensary.jpg)
"Death's Dispensary"
But it took a concerned human doctor to figure this out, it wasn't random.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 25, 2018, 07:13:29 AM
Monosodium Glutamate isn't "natural".
It naturally occurs in the cooking of Chinese ;-)
Quote from: Sal1981 on January 25, 2018, 06:49:54 AM
That's a useless terse definition for "natural". Why even use that word, when it encompasses everything?
My point exactly. There are 100 types of nihilist who post here. One kind are nihilists of dictionary meaning. Or they work for Big Brother.
Quote from: Baruch on January 25, 2018, 07:05:23 PM
But it took a concerned human doctor to figure this out, it wasn't random.
Actually, it was a doctor and a clergyman, named
Henry Whitehead (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Whitehead_(priest)).
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 25, 2018, 07:10:48 PM
Actually, it was a doctor and a clergyman, named Henry Whitehead (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Whitehead_(priest)).
Here is the best version of this story ... and a cartoon as well!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLpzHHbFrHY
19th century London was the first city, since ancient Rome, to reach 1 million inhabitants. Of course the Romans understood sewage very early (the Cloaca Maxima) ... but people later were ignorant of even Roman technology.
Baruch, I know that you got this natural = artificial strawman from me, but of course, it was the result of you missing the point as usual.
Quote from: Hakurei Reimu on January 25, 2018, 09:19:49 PM
Baruch, I know that you got this natural = artificial strawman from me, but of course, it was the result of you missing the point as usual.
So then, your posts are proof of the intelligence of random number generation? ;-)
As I pointed out in the shout box ... mere statistics have no explanatory power by themselves, they have to tied to a model that relates the variables (say a Markov model). Similarly, overly general terms are useless as well, like most philosophical terminology. It is less interesting that I have four limbs, than two of them are legs, and two of them are arms, with very specific capabilities. Otherwise I would walk on my hands and clap with my feet ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on January 25, 2018, 11:19:37 PM
So then, your posts are proof of the intelligence of random number generation? ;-)
I sometimes find random number generation to make more sense than you some days. I don't know if that can be called intelligence, however.
Quote from: Baruch on January 25, 2018, 11:19:37 PM
As I pointed out in the shout box ... mere statistics have no explanatory power by themselves, they have to tied to a model that relates the variables (say a Markov model).
Well, whop-de-do for stating the obvious, Baruch. It is, after all, the specifics of the model that you are using statistics to evaluate.
Quote from: Baruch on January 25, 2018, 11:19:37 PM
Similarly, overly general terms are useless as well, like most philosophical terminology. It is less interesting that I have four limbs, than two of them are legs, and two of them are arms, with very specific capabilities. Otherwise I would walk on my hands and clap with my feet ;-)
Have you ever tried? I can indeed do at least half of that. Not easily, mind, but possible.
Quote from: Hakurei Reimu on January 26, 2018, 07:53:40 PM
I sometimes find random number generation to make more sense than you some days. I don't know if that can be called intelligence, however.
Well, whop-de-do for stating the obvious, Baruch. It is, after all, the specifics of the model that you are using statistics to evaluate.
Have you ever tried? I can indeed do at least half of that. Not easily, mind, but possible.
A true random number generator (do they exist?) is precious, because that is the true seed for good cryptography ;-) All algorithms produce pseudo-random numbers. The non-randomness is the trace of the workings of the algorithm. They say ... that a natural process can produce a true random number. This is used in practice (or is it just marketing?). But if that were true, then Pythagoras is false, literally the world can't made of numbers (aka discrete inputs and outputs of algorithms).
Comparing a model, against empirical data ... yes, one can do that. I think you mean, that the statistics of the empirical data, are used against the model, to see how closely the model replicates the phenomena (quantitatively). But the proposed model, doesn't come from nowhere. There has to be a human in the loop someplace, with the initial setup of the neural net or the initial setup of the Kalman (adaptive) model. For those who are uneducated ...
http://cecas.clemson.edu/~ahoover/ece854/refs/Ramos-Intro-HMM.pdf
Perhaps had this been available, this could have been used in earlier epidemiology studies. The Markov model would have looked like the infected neighborhood and the interactions between the people living there.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 24, 2018, 03:37:29 PM
A point in the processing of uranium the product is a yellowish, crumbly mass known as ...
Cake! I don't like cake that way or with frosting. Neither is very good for you.
Just an odd thought connected to the subject. If there is a god, why did it create uranium?
Quote from: Cavebear on January 27, 2018, 01:52:05 AM
Cake! I don't like cake that way or with frosting. Neither is very good for you.
Just an odd thought connected to the subject. If there is a god, why did it create uranium?
That is a good question. Some lost their faith in 1945, and not just because of HaShoah.
Quote from: Baruch on January 27, 2018, 10:06:08 AM
That is a good question. Some lost their faith in 1945, and not just because of HaShoah.
I would think that my Aunt Sachiko fro Nagasaki might know the answer to that better.
But aside from that, I did have to look up "HaShoah". If your personal goal is to educate me, you are doing a fine job of it. Not that I am sure I will remember the phrase tomorrow, but you never know. Give yourself one credit to a positive afterlife from an atheist...
Quote from: Cavebear on January 27, 2018, 11:07:51 AM
I would think that my Aunt Sachiko fro Nagasaki might know the answer to that better.
But aside from that, I did have to look up "HaShoah". If your personal goal is to educate me, you are doing a fine job of it. Not that I am sure I will remember the phrase tomorrow, but you never know. Give yourself one credit to a positive afterlife from an atheist...
Holocaust is anti-semitic. Most Gentiles don't realize that. Of course lots of other people were offed in WW II, particularly if you count from the Manchurian Incident in 1931.
I love Japanese people. Definitely sad we had to meet with them that way. Hirohito was lucky he wasn't killed by his own people, or executed by us. It was necessary for General McArthur to pretend he was a figurehead. This paid dividends in 1950. Without Japan and their Toyoda trucks, we would have lost Korea immediately.
Japanese people lost faith too, but not from the nukes. From the lowering of the status of the Emperor, and the fact that they lost. I know this from one whole anecdote by a Japanese HS student from that time, so that makes me an expert ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on January 27, 2018, 04:18:19 PM
Holocaust is anti-semitic. Most Gentiles don't realize that. Of course lots of other people were offed in WW II, particularly if you count from the Manchurian Incident in 1931.
I love Japanese people. Definitely sad we had to meet with them that way. Hirohito was lucky he wasn't killed by his own people, or executed by us. It was necessary for General McArthur to pretend he was a figurehead. This paid dividends in 1950. Without Japan and their Toyoda trucks, we would have lost Korea immediately.
Japanese people lost faith too, but not from the nukes. From the lowering of the status of the Emperor, and the fact that they lost. I know this from one whole anecdote by a Japanese HS student from that time, so that makes me an expert ;-)
The Holocaust is surely a defining example of anti-semitism beyond most in history. But we equally MUST not forget the others:
Jews 5.93 million
Ethnic Poles 2.7â€"3.2 million
Ukrainian Slavs 3 million
Soviet POWs 2â€"3 million
Belarusian Slavs 1.5 million
Serbs 300,000â€"500,000
Disabled 270,000
Romani 90,000â€"220,000
Freemasons 80,000â€"200,000
Slovenes 20,000â€"25,000
Homosexuals 5,000â€"15,000
Jehovah's Witnesses 2,500â€"5,000
Spanish Republicans 7,000
They say ... that after the Doolittle raid, the Japs executed 180,000 Chinese civilians that they though had aided the escape of the American airmen.
Quote from: Baruch on February 02, 2018, 01:10:22 PM
They say ... that after the Doolittle raid, the Japs executed 180,000 Chinese civilians that they though had aided the escape of the American airmen.
"They" say? I have no information on that.
I just came across this on google:
The Untold Story of the Vengeful Japanese Attack After the Doolittle Raid (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/untold-story-vengeful-japanese-attack-doolittle-raid-180955001/)
QuoteWhen the U.S. responded to Pearl Harbor with a surprise bombing of Tokyo, the Imperial Army took out its fury on the Chinese people
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 02, 2018, 01:54:42 PM
I just came across this on google:
The Untold Story of the Vengeful Japanese Attack After the Doolittle Raid (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/untold-story-vengeful-japanese-attack-doolittle-raid-180955001/)
It is entirely possible. But the Japanese military was already doing that before the Doolittle Raid.
That is why FDR didn't stage any special raids into deep occupied territory to save some Jews. The quickest way to end all murder, was to end the AXIS ASAP. The Japanese are lucky we didn't let China occupy Japan.
Quote from: Baruch on February 02, 2018, 07:44:50 PM
That is why FDR didn't stage any special raids into deep occupied territory to save some Jews. The quickest way to end all murder, was to end the AXIS ASAP. The Japanese are lucky we didn't let China occupy Japan.
Actually, it is more that the Japanese were lucky that we didn't let the Soviets occupy them. It was a close call. A week and no A-Bomb and they would have.
Marshal of the Soviet Union Aleksandr Vasilevsky advised the Great Stalin that he could three division on Hokkaido on Aug. 22nd. Stalin canceled this on Aug. 21st, due to the obvious problems it would cause after a Japanese capitulation.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on February 07, 2018, 08:20:01 AM
Marshal of the Soviet Union Aleksandr Vasilevsky advised the Great Stalin that he could three division on Hokkaido on Aug. 22nd. Stalin canceled this on Aug. 21st, due to the obvious problems it would cause after a Japanese capitulation.
The Soviet Union still got all of Sakhalin. Making a strategic win for Pacific access to Vladivostok.
Quote from: Baruch on February 07, 2018, 12:54:47 PM
The Soviet Union still got all of Sakhalin. Making a strategic win for Pacific access to Vladivostok.
But they didn't get Japan. If they had, it would be East Korea.
Quote from: Cavebear on February 09, 2018, 04:03:22 AM
But they didn't get Japan. If they had, it would be East Korea.
Correct. Stalin was a necessary, yet horrible ally.
In my conspiracy theory mind this is the result of planning ahead to ensure the never ending sales of bottled water..
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on February 09, 2018, 09:28:18 AM
In my conspiracy theory mind this is the result of planning ahead to ensure the never ending sales of bottled water..
The end game isn't lack of petroleum, but lack of potable water.
Quote from: Baruch on February 09, 2018, 01:09:41 PM
The end game isn't lack of petroleum, but lack of potable water.
I'm not necessarily convinced that those who might want to be bottled water barons really care if it's potable or not. They're the type who would sell polluted water in bottles and pawn it off as 100% pure h2O with the nice pretty pictures of snow covered mountains much like the shit sold in Texas, but is really not much more than local bottled tap water run through a tiny bit of filtration..
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on February 09, 2018, 04:04:08 PM
I'm not necessarily convinced that those who might want to be bottled water barons really care if it's potable or not. They're the type who would sell polluted water in bottles and pawn it off as 100% pure h2O with the nice pretty pictures of snow covered mountains much like the shit sold in Texas, but is really not much more than local bottled tap water run through a tiny bit of filtration..
Sh! You will scare off the rubes.
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on February 09, 2018, 04:04:08 PM
I'm not necessarily convinced that those who might want to be bottled water barons really care if it's potable or not. They're the type who would sell polluted water in bottles and pawn it off as 100% pure h2O with the nice pretty pictures of snow covered mountains much like the shit sold in Texas, but is really not much more than local bottled tap water run through a tiny bit of filtration..
Never trust marketers. Even when they say things that seem undoubtable, they lie.
I read a consumer article in the Washington Post that showed that. Apparently, a chair manufacturer can say the chair is covered with "100% split cowhide leather" and it can legally still be an artificial material.
No joke!
Quote from: Cavebear on February 15, 2018, 02:54:41 AM
Never trust marketers. Even when they say things that seem undoubtable, they lie.
I read a consumer article in the Washington Post that showed that. Apparently, a chair manufacturer can say the chair is covered with "100% split cowhide leather" and it can legally still be an artificial material.
No joke!
"Made in America" no joke ;-(
Quote from: Baruch on February 18, 2018, 08:55:36 PM
"Made in America" no joke ;-(
So what do you think about the lies about products?
Quote from: Cavebear on February 19, 2018, 02:14:08 AM
So what do you think about the lies about products?
Caveat Emptor. Nothing that a bloodthirsty Roman Emperor couldn't deal with, before the afternoon orgy.
BTW -- President Zuma stepping down, maybe will help S Africa. He was getting rather .. Mugabe .. in his old age.
Quote from: Baruch on February 19, 2018, 07:28:20 AM
Caveat Emptor. Nothing that a bloodthirsty Roman Emperor couldn't deal with, before the afternoon orgy.
BTW -- President Zuma stepping down, maybe will help S Africa. He was getting rather .. Mugabe .. in his old age.
So why should it be that way? Just to allow snake oil salesmen to get rich? Couldn't they have more productive jobs?
Quote from: Cavebear on February 19, 2018, 08:00:45 AM
So why should it be that way? Just to allow snake oil salesmen to get rich? Couldn't they have more productive jobs?
An informed consumer is a succesful consumer ... which is why public and private sector purveyors of services and products, work very hard to keep them uninformed, or at least misinformed. Otherwise 1792 happens all over again.
Quote from: Baruch on February 19, 2018, 08:22:16 PM
An informed consumer is a succesful consumer ... which is why public and private sector purveyors of services and products, work very hard to keep them uninformed, or at least misinformed. Otherwise 1792 happens all over again.
1792 was a very good and interesting year (https://www.onthisday.com/events/date/1792). But what did you have in mind specifically?
Quote from: Cavebear on February 25, 2018, 03:38:25 AM
1792 was a very good and interesting year (https://www.onthisday.com/events/date/1792). But what did you have in mind specifically?
The malefactors of wealth didn't enjoy Paris that year.
Quote from: Baruch on February 25, 2018, 08:27:40 AM
The malefactors of wealth didn't enjoy Paris that year.
Ah let them eat cake then. Or Bread. Or whatever. Why do they care which? Won't make any difference to ME!
MA
"Poor old Marat, they hunt you down.
The soldiers are searching all over the town..."
Quote from: Cavebear on February 25, 2018, 02:28:56 PM
Ah let them eat cake then. Or Bread. Or whatever. Why do they care which? Won't make any difference to ME!
MA
"Poor old Marat, they hunt you down.
The soldiers are searching all over the town..."
Brioche ... something like a pastry.
“Qu'ils mangent de la brioche†- but Rousseau wrote that, and Marie didn't say it. It was a meme. And wasn't noted at the time, but in later pro-revolution French historians. Most of the things people think happened, didn't, at least not the way they thought it did. People don't have memory, they have free confabulation.
Quote from: Baruch on February 25, 2018, 09:00:08 PM
Brioche ... something like a pastry.
“Qu'ils mangent de la brioche†- but Rousseau wrote that, and Marie didn't say it. It was a meme. And wasn't noted at the time, but in later pro-revolution French historians. Most of the things people think happened, didn't, at least not the way they thought it did. People don't have memory, they have free confabulation.
Few famous sayings are actually accurate. Several people at Lincoln's death said Seward claimed "Now Lincoln belongs to the Angels" but he improved that to "Now he belongs to the Ages". As Ceasar probably didn't say "et tu, Brute?", but rather "Et peperit filium fornicationum, insidiatoris".
Quote from: Cavebear on February 28, 2018, 04:59:29 AM
Few famous sayings are actually accurate. Several people at Lincoln's death said Seward claimed "Now Lincoln belongs to the Angels" but he improved that to "Now he belongs to the Ages". As Ceasar probably didn't say "et tu, Brute?", but rather "Et peperit filium fornicationum, insidiatoris".
That produces a typical Google Translate fail ... "She Harlots bandit". "insidiatoris" by itself translates in Google to "bandit".
So what part of your own memory is confabulation? (rhetorical).
Quote from: Baruch on February 28, 2018, 06:23:54 AM
That produces a typical Google Translate fail ... "She Harlots bandit". "insidiatoris" by itself translates in Google to "bandit".
So what part of your own memory is confabulation? (rhetorical).
Well, you are disputing GOOGLE! Remember the coke machine scene in Dr Strangelove?
Quote from: Cavebear on February 28, 2018, 02:30:11 PM
Well, you are disputing GOOGLE! Remember the coke machine scene in Dr Strangelove?
My loving is strictly vanilla. Nothing strange about it.
Another Zimbabwe in the making.
National Assembly adopts motion on land expropriation without compensation (https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/breaking-national-assembly-adopts-motion-on-land-expropriation-without-compensation-20180227)
The Cape Town Water Crisis and Hating Israel (http://www.aish.com/jw/me/The-Cape-Town-Water-Crisis-and-Hating-Israel.html)
QuoteAs soon as Israel became aware of Cape Town’s water problem, without any hesitancy it volunteered assistance, making clear their ability and willingness to help.
Former Israeli Ambassador to South Africa Arthur Lenk, current Ambassador Lior Keinan, and Israel’s economic attaches to South Africa all made repeated overtures to the relevant bodies to assist with the Cape Town water crisis. Scientists were prepared to share their knowledge. Volunteers were ready to come to implement them. Organizations were ready to help in the planning and even in the financing for what was required to prevent Day Zero from becoming a reality.
But the governing body of Cape Town sides with the Palestinians. That makes Israelis the enemy. And that allowed hatred to trump sanity and enmity to prefer calamity over offered salvation.
In the early part of 2016, when it already became clear that parts of South Africa would be facing one of the most severe droughts in its history, an important conference was called to make plans for the initiation and implementation of specific programs to prevent catastrophe. Listed on the program as one of the delegates was Israel’s ambassador to South Africa, Arthur Lenk, who had already spent considerable effort in educating and assisting the region wherever possible. No sooner did this become public than Prof Lorenzo Fioramonti of the University of Pretoria, withdrew his participation. That was immediately followed by the BDS movement successfully lobbying the South African government to entirely cancel the water conference due to Israel’s participation.
Thanks to the growing influence of the increasing Muslim population and the leadership of the pro-jihad President Jacob Zuma aligned with the BDS, South Africans rejoiced at their ability to “tell off the Israelis†and to deny Israel the ability to claim credit for any humanitarian aid.
'We are not calling for the slaughter of white people - at least for now': South African parliament votes to SEIZE white-owned land as experts warn of violent repercussions (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5443599/White-South-African-farmers-removed-land.html)
This is the problem with democracy ... majoritarianism. That is why I would suspend all elections, everywhere. Cattle pens for all the ape people, especially Blonde/Blue eyed ones from Germany.
Quote from: pr126 on March 01, 2018, 10:25:38 AM
Another Zimbabwe in the making.
National Assembly adopts motion on land expropriation without compensation (https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/breaking-national-assembly-adopts-motion-on-land-expropriation-without-compensation-20180227)
The Cape Town Water Crisis and Hating Israel (http://www.aish.com/jw/me/The-Cape-Town-Water-Crisis-and-Hating-Israel.html)
'We are not calling for the slaughter of white people - at least for now': South African parliament votes to SEIZE white-owned land as experts warn of violent repercussions (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5443599/White-South-African-farmers-removed-land.html)
The Europeans created the situation, they will have to deal with it. The US used to fix everything, but can't be everywhere all the time.
Let us do it, or do it yourself. We stopped being the world's policemen a decade ago because everyone said we shouldn't. We still can, but make up your minds about it... You can't have it both ways.
Well, that happened 300 years ago.
Guilty as charged. We are in the process of atoning for the sins of our ancestors.
We are simply eliminating ourselves. We had enough. Getting out of the gene pool.
Who will be blamed then?
Quote from: pr126 on March 03, 2018, 07:10:13 AM
Well, that happened 300 years ago.
Guilty as charged. We are in the process of atoning for the sins of our ancestors.
We are simply eliminating ourselves. We had enough. Getting out of the gene pool.
Who will be blamed then?
Feel free to leave the gene pool. But ideas like yours are not genetic. They are cultural. Look at what Poland is doing to make their WWII genocide references illegal as if events then never happened.
Quote from: Cavebear on March 05, 2018, 04:32:41 AM
Feel free to leave the gene pool. But ideas like yours are not genetic. They are cultural. Look at what Poland is doing to make their WWII genocide references illegal as if events then never happened.
Why are you still reading my posts?
Quote from: pr126 on March 05, 2018, 04:35:49 AM
Why are you still reading my posts?
1. I'm online.
2. I'm bored.
3. You are an idiot.
4. You are easy to rely to.
5. Did I mention I personally think you are a pest and an idiot?
6. I try to never leave an idiotic post unanswered.
7. Replying to fools is vaguely amusing
Do you want me to continue?
Quote from: Cavebear on March 05, 2018, 04:41:51 AM
1. I'm online.
2. I'm bored.
3. You are an idiot.
4. You are easy to rely to.
5. Did I mention I personally think you are a pest and an idiot?
6. I try to never leave an idiotic post unanswered.
7. Replying to fools is vaguely amusing
Do you want me to continue?
I understand.
I do not subscribe to the accepted norm. Neo-Marxism, liberalism, I am a political enemy of the people.
Well, at 74 I have no intention to change.
A pest? By pointing out the insanity of the left? Guilty as charged.
An idiot? I don't think so. Different ideas, yes.
Watching the world descent into the abyss, engineered by Marxist, globalist, Islamist.
It will not end well.
Quote from: Cavebear on March 05, 2018, 04:32:41 AM
Feel free to leave the gene pool. But ideas like yours are not genetic. They are cultural. Look at what Poland is doing to make their WWII genocide references illegal as if events then never happened.
The Polish State, in 1939-1945 didn't collaborate with the Nazis ... or run Polish Government death camps. It is hate speech to say so, and they make that illegal in Europe. Individual Poles were anti-semitic, and engaged in violence against returning Jewish refugees ... but that wasn't State policy, that was individual criminality (possession of Jewish property by Gentiles is 9/10th of the law). Examine what Switzerland (Nazi collaborators) did with Jewish art and other valuables for comparison.
Quote from: Cavebear on March 05, 2018, 04:41:51 AM
1. I'm online.
2. I'm bored.
3. You are an idiot.
4. You are easy to rely to.
5. Did I mention I personally think you are a pest and an idiot?
6. I try to never leave an idiotic post unanswered.
7. Replying to fools is vaguely amusing
Do you want me to continue?
My feelings exactly ... I am a typo Nazi ... "easy to reply to" ... yeah, my fingers are dyslexic too. What you hate is that we are so similar.
Quote from: Baruch on March 05, 2018, 06:14:22 AM
The Polish State, in 1939-1945 didn't collaborate with the Nazis ... or run Polish Government death camps. It is hate speech to say so, and they make that illegal in Europe. Individual Poles were anti-semitic, and engaged in violence against returning Jewish refugees ... but that wasn't State policy, that was individual criminality (possession of Jewish property by Gentiles is 9/10th of the law). Examine what Switzerland (Nazi collaborators) did with Jewish art and other valuables for comparison.
I think this passes the point of rationality and acceptability. Good bye.