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Title: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: SGOS on January 19, 2018, 10:53:59 AM
We don't often get weather reports from Europe over here.  How unusual this is I can't say, but it looks quite nasty.

https://news.google.com/news/video/2cAfWTWbH8Y/dvzgk5N5dlITRBM84gt-biETk8ouM?hl=en&gl=US&ned=us
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on January 19, 2018, 11:22:10 AM
God's punishment for Kenneth Copeland only being able to buy a $3,000,000 personal jet.
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Unbeliever on January 19, 2018, 02:05:12 PM
Well, so much for "global warming" huh?

;)
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: SGOS on January 19, 2018, 02:21:18 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 19, 2018, 02:05:12 PM
Well, so much for "global warming" huh?

;)
Yeah, but a thumbs up for global meteorological chaos.
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Mr.Obvious on January 19, 2018, 02:54:31 PM
One person died in belgium due to The storm last night.
My boss' garden shed got wrecked also.
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Shiranu on January 19, 2018, 02:58:55 PM
Texan here... that's cute.

(Joking, stay strong Europe)
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: SGOS on January 19, 2018, 03:06:11 PM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on January 19, 2018, 02:54:31 PM
One person died in belgium due to The storm last night.
My boss' garden shed got wrecked also.
It doesn't surprise me.  It looked like there was a lot of flying debris.
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Munch on January 19, 2018, 03:17:49 PM
Glad my boyfriend isn't there, though did ask if his mom was okay, who lives in the more rural central area of Germany. She's fine.
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: SGOS on January 19, 2018, 04:06:15 PM
Quote from: Munch on January 19, 2018, 03:17:49 PM
Glad my boyfriend isn't there, though did ask if his mom was okay, who lives in the more rural central area of Germany. She's fine.
Good.
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on January 19, 2018, 05:12:47 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 19, 2018, 02:05:12 PM
Well, so much for "global warming" huh?

;)
Weather is not climate.

Long-term warming trend continued in 2017: NASA, NOAA (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/01/180118173711.htm)
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Unbeliever on January 19, 2018, 05:17:39 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 19, 2018, 05:12:47 PM
Weather is not climate.

Long-term warming trend continued in 2017: NASA, NOAA (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/01/180118173711.htm)
Yeah, I know, I was being facetious, channeling the deniers. :)
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Jason78 on January 20, 2018, 01:45:29 PM
It's raining sideways.
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Cavebear on January 24, 2018, 01:53:05 PM
The worldwide weather is bad and it is going to continue (generally) to get worse in the future.. 
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Unbeliever on January 24, 2018, 02:06:05 PM
I've heard that as the climate changes, the Gulf Stream could be decreased, which might well mean much colder weather for Europe. Let's hope that's not beginning already.


How Climate Change Could Jam The World’s Ocean Circulation (https://e360.yale.edu/features/will_climate_change_jam_the_global_ocean_conveyor_belt)
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Cavebear on January 24, 2018, 02:14:41 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 24, 2018, 02:06:05 PM
I've heard that as the climate changes, the Gulf Stream could be decreased, which might well mean much colder weather for Europe. Let's hope that's not beginning already.


How Climate Change Could Jam The World’s Ocean Circulation (https://e360.yale.edu/features/will_climate_change_jam_the_global_ocean_conveyor_belt)

I know about the Gulf stream and worldwide flow.  Looking forward to seeing a concise explanation.    ;)
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Baruch on January 24, 2018, 08:12:59 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on January 24, 2018, 02:14:41 PM
I know about the Gulf stream and worldwide flow.  Looking forward to seeing a concise explanation.    ;)

Took me 15 seconds on Google to find this ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuGrBhK2c7U

Not to worry, Europeans are part Neanderthal.
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Cavebear on January 27, 2018, 02:07:15 AM
Quote from: Baruch on January 24, 2018, 08:12:59 PM
Took me 15 seconds on Google to find this ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuGrBhK2c7U

Not to worry, Europeans are part Neanderthal.

Yes, I know about that, of course.  I know how desalination of the arctic waters are going to affect the stream, and I know it could end in the relatively near future to serious cooling in Europe.  Did you think I would not?  Evolution and human migration is an interest of mine.

And yes, Europeans are about 5% Neanderthal.  Are you familiar with the Denisovians? 
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Baruch on January 27, 2018, 10:13:09 AM
The Denisovans are Menacans.
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Cavebear on January 27, 2018, 10:49:24 AM
Quote from: Baruch on January 27, 2018, 10:13:09 AM
The Denisovans are Menacans.

The only reference I find to Menacans is French, and I'm pretty sure they weren't in Eastern Central Asia.  Enlighten me...
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: SGOS on January 27, 2018, 01:40:44 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 24, 2018, 02:06:05 PM
I've heard that as the climate changes, the Gulf Stream could be decreased, which might well mean much colder weather for Europe. Let's hope that's not beginning already.


How Climate Change Could Jam The World’s Ocean Circulation (https://e360.yale.edu/features/will_climate_change_jam_the_global_ocean_conveyor_belt)

I talked with oceanographer one time, and he pointed out how warming changes the current patterns and how this is no small event.  Someplace I read that the last ice age followed a reversal of the Gulf Stream, which brought colder water and air to Europe.
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Unbeliever on January 27, 2018, 02:06:59 PM
Quote from: SGOS on January 27, 2018, 01:40:44 PM
I talked with oceanographer one time, and he pointed out how warming changes the current patterns and how this is no small event.  Someplace I read that the last ice age followed a reversal of the Gulf Stream, which brought colder water and air to Europe.
There's this, among other similar articles:

Ocean Circulation Implicated in Past Abrupt Climate Changes (http://www.earth.columbia.edu/articles/view/3335)


And there was at least one instance of a "snowball Earth (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_Earth)" way back when. Our climate is a very fragile thing.
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Cavebear on January 27, 2018, 02:09:00 PM
Quote from: SGOS on January 27, 2018, 01:40:44 PM
I talked with oceanographer one time, and he pointed out how warming changes the current patterns and how this is no small event.  Someplace I read that the last ice age followed a reversal of the Gulf Stream, which brought colder water and air to Europe.

The ocean stream goes all around the continents.  As ice melts, fresh water flows onto it which changes the flow of the saltiest water.  Complicated, but if the ocean stream stops (as it has before a few times in the past), it ruins the heat exchange between the equator and polar areas.
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Baruch on January 27, 2018, 04:37:22 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on January 27, 2018, 10:49:24 AM
The only reference I find to Menacans is French, and I'm pretty sure they weren't in Eastern Central Asia.  Enlighten me...

Denis the Menace.  The Menicans live across the street from the Denisovans and George, the old guy.
Title: Re: Rotten Weather in Europe
Post by: Cavebear on February 02, 2018, 02:59:01 AM
Quote from: Baruch on January 27, 2018, 04:37:22 PM
Denis the Menace.  The Menicans live across the street from the Denisovans and George, they old guy.

Try harder.  A few facts please.  As annoying as they are, Dennis, Margarete, and George are not EXACTLY what I was asking about.