https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/13/hawaii-ballistic-missile-threat-alert-false-alarm
You have 15 minutes to kiss your ass goodbye ;-( Then you get The Day After/Threads.
North Korea is led by a crazy person. So is the US, and this worrisome. North Korea might even attack us, kill a lot of people, and cause a lot of property damage. This may not be a concern of to Kim Jong-un if he feels his own life is unimportant, but I'm pretty sure that with Trump as president or any other president of another party, a nuclear attack by North Korea would render the entire country a lifeless quarantine zone. It would cease to exist as a nation. The land would be given to South Korea in the hopes that someday it might even be habitable. This of course does not assure that such a thing could never happen. We are talking about crazy people running countries. Anything can happen.
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It's a shame we have reached a point where this wasn't assumed to be a malfunction but instead a serious threat.
I'm sure the uninformed and hysterical assumed it was a real threat.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 14, 2018, 12:07:15 PM
I'm sure the uninformed and hysterical assumed it was a real threat.
Really? What about that makes one misinformed?
The story breaks my heart.
Quote from: Shiranu on January 14, 2018, 11:51:49 AM
It's a shame we have reached a point where this wasn't assumed to be a malfunction but instead a serious threat.
If you grew up in the Cold War, you would never assume it is a malfunction. An exercise is preceded with "Exercise, Exercise, Exercise". This wasn't. I see it as a human interest story, about what human beings do when confronted with the unexpected.
Quote from: Baruch on January 14, 2018, 02:12:04 PM
If you grew up in the Cold War, you would never assume it is a malfunction. An exercise is preceded with "Exercise, Exercise, Exercise". This wasn't. I see it as a human interest story, about what human beings do when confronted with the unexpected.
That's true. For me, the thought of nuclear annihilation has always been pretty low on things I feared... much more concerned about being shot at school or jumped by a bunch of racist idiots. I guess I just always kinda naively hoped that living in fear of the bomb was for the older generations and would stay that way.
Jamie Lee Curtis on Facebook.
"This Hawaii missle scare is on YOU Mr. Trump. The real FEAR that mothers & fathers & children felt is on YOU. It is on YOUR ARROGANCE. HUBRIS. NARCISSISM. RAGE. EGO. IMMATURITY and your UNSTABLE IDIOCY. Shame on your hate filled self. YOU DID THIS!"
8:24 PM - Jan 13, 2018
There you go. We have the culprit.
Thank you Jamie.
Quote from: pr126 on January 15, 2018, 12:30:02 AM
Jamie Lee Curtis on Facebook.
"This Hawaii missle scare is on YOU Mr. Trump. The real FEAR that mothers & fathers & children felt is on YOU. It is on YOUR ARROGANCE. HUBRIS. NARCISSISM. RAGE. EGO. IMMATURITY and your UNSTABLE IDIOCY. Shame on your hate filled self. YOU DID THIS!"
8:24 PM - Jan 13, 2018
There you go. We have the culprit.
Thank you Jamie.
Whoever JLC is, Trump didn't invent human conflict or military confrontation. And it would appear that it was a Hawaii state employee who erred. Even Rep Tulsi Gabbard jumped on the band wagon, and I though she was smarter than that.
Baruch wrote:QuoteTrump didn't invent human conflict or military confrontation.
No excuse! It is his fault, and that's that.
Quote from: pr126 on January 15, 2018, 03:01:52 AM
Baruch wrote:No excuse! It is his fault, and that's that.
Yes, Obama, Hillary and even Bill are such well known pacifists ;-(
Quote from: Baruch on January 15, 2018, 03:05:35 AM
Yes, Obama, Hillary and even Bill are such well known pacifists ;-(
They are the salt of the earth.
(You know what too much salt does to you?) ;-)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/01/14/hawaii-missile-alert-how-one-employee-pushed-the-wrong-button-and-caused-a-wave-of-panic/?utm_term=.e9d867f96dcc
Not far into the article, it describes the exact moment of human error. But there was another error before that ... crappy software design. You don't put "test missile alert" right next to "missile alert". I accidentally shut down the company server (at a previous job) because a typo happened to correspond to a legitimate command I didn't want to execute.
oil guillotine stop guillotine start guillotine execute guillotine test guillotine reset guillotine
Darby O'Guillotine and the Expendable People.
The thing that concerns me is if Hawaii were to have a real crisis and ignore it because of this false alarm. That would really suck.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 16, 2018, 02:23:22 PM
The thing that concerns me is if Hawaii were to have a real crisis and ignore it because of this false alarm. That would really suck.
A paradox. What is the sound of one island vaporizing?
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 16, 2018, 02:23:22 PM
The thing that concerns me is if Hawaii were to have a real crisis and ignore it because of this false alarm. That would really suck.
Cross-checking is needed. A single source is always to be suspected.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 16, 2018, 02:23:22 PM
The thing that concerns me is if Hawaii were to have a real crisis and ignore it because of this false alarm. That would really suck.
Tbf, I'm not sure what good the alarm even does against a nuclear warhead.
Yeah, good point. I bet there's very little in the way of civil defense, or bomb shelters, in Hawaii or anywhere else in the US.
Quote from: Baruch on January 15, 2018, 06:51:46 PM
Not far into the article, it describes the exact moment of human error. But there was another error before that ... crappy software design. You don't put "test missile alert" right next to "missile alert".
Well, if you make it too easy to issue a missile alert, you end up with false alarms. If you make it too hard to issue a missile alert, you end up issuing the alert too late to help anyone.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 16, 2018, 04:42:49 PM
Yeah, good point. I bet there's very little in the way of civil defense, or bomb shelters, in Hawaii or anywhere else in the US.
This is why I don't tell you where my bomb shelter is ;-)
Kim Jong must be having a boner over this.
That's an image I could've done without having in my head...
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 17, 2018, 01:36:52 PM
That's an image I could've done without having in my head...
It was just an expression. But now that the image is lodged in my head, I deeply regret the comment.
Quote from: SGOS on January 17, 2018, 09:31:24 AM
Kim Jong must be having a boner over this.
After killing his girl friend, how else?
There was a false alarm in Japan, too. Considering their history, this seems like a particularly upsetting event.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 17, 2018, 01:36:52 PM
That's an image I could've done without having in my head...
I don't think it was a big deal.
:-)
Quote from: GSOgymrat on January 17, 2018, 04:16:31 PM
I don't think it was a big deal.
:-)
Baruch sneaks up behind GSOgymrat, then blows up and smacks down a paper sack loudly!
Quote from: Baruch on January 17, 2018, 06:51:21 PM
Baruch sneaks up behind GSOgymrat, then blows up and smacks down a paper sack loudly!
I do hope you realize I was referencing the boner and not the alert. I would have been in total panic mode.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on January 17, 2018, 07:01:27 PM
I do hope you realize I was referencing the boner and not the alert. I would have been in total panic mode.
No I did not. My Oija board wasn't plugged in ;-)
A wrong button pressed by some poor sap, ruined career, and probably not deserved. I'd like to see the choices the poor sap had on screen!
Quote from: Cavebear on January 18, 2018, 06:18:59 AM
A wrong button pressed by some poor sap, ruined career, and probably not deserved. I'd like to see the choices the poor sap had on screen!
Websites and menus are often non-intuitive guessing games built on idiosyncratic notions of the designer. They are more like puzzles to be solved. Sometimes its fun to mess with them, but sometimes I just want to order a fucking pair of socks.
Quote from: SGOS on January 18, 2018, 08:45:04 AM
Websites and menus are often non-intuitive guessing games built on idiosyncratic notions of the designer. They are more like puzzles to be solved. Sometimes its fun to mess with them, but sometimes I just want to order a fucking pair of socks.
Socks are good. I very much miss Footjoy Cushion Sole Socks that came in many colors.
But when it comes to serious screens, "Blow Up The World" should probably not be on the same drop down menu as "Test The System".
Quote from: Cavebear on January 18, 2018, 06:18:59 AM
A wrong button pressed by some poor sap, ruined career, and probably not deserved. I'd like to see the choices the poor sap had on screen!
The article described it ... I/F design fail.
Quote from: Baruch on January 18, 2018, 02:32:14 PM
The article described it ... I/F design fail.
I know the feeling. I once had a process to send offices their telephone call data. So who did I send the wrong report to one time? The Head of my Agency of course. Arggghhhh...
Quote from: Cavebear on January 18, 2018, 02:55:10 PM
I know the feeling. I once had a process to send offices their telephone call data. So who did I send the wrong report to one time? The Head of my Agency of course. Arggghhhh...
Ah, you were in the government piracy department. Shiver my timbers!
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Too small to read.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on January 17, 2018, 07:01:27 PM
I do hope you realize I was referencing the boner and not the alert.
It must be something to see--Trump, after all, called him "Rocket Man" for some reason......................
Quote from: Baruch on January 18, 2018, 09:31:15 PM
Ah, you were in the government piracy department. Shiver my timbers!
Of course not, double a half-wit. I was in the business of assisting offices to manage their own costs. I got them to look at cell phone and smart phone costs to not let SOME IDIOTS stay on line 24/7.
PS - Do the math before getting annoyed... ;)