I just learned about this man. I've never heard of him before. For those who don't know who I'm talking about I've linked a video as well as his wikipedia page. Sounds like a load of nonsense to me, but who am I? What do you make of him, his claims, and his ideas?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=--Nbz6flw5A
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Langan
Interesting guy. That's pretty much it.
Austistic men have high IQ. Crazy women has high EQ. Balance the force, Luke!
If anyone of you can understand this, you're better than I am:
Explaining the CTMU (Cognitive Theoretic Model Of The Universe). (https://medium.com/@variantofone/explaining-the-ctmu-cognitive-theoretic-model-of-the-universe-163a89fc5841)
This is a good response:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PX3CPHiL2A
Apparently he took an IQ test from a magazine (OMNI), and found himself to have a super-high IQ. Any such test, unsupervised, is worthless as an indicator of intelligence, so pardon me if I'm a bit skeptical.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 09, 2018, 02:00:50 PM
If anyone of you can understand this, you're better than I am:
Explaining the CTMU (Cognitive Theoretic Model Of The Universe). (https://medium.com/@variantofone/explaining-the-ctmu-cognitive-theoretic-model-of-the-universe-163a89fc5841)
This is a good response:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PX3CPHiL2A
Apparently he took an IQ test from a magazine (OMNI), and found himself to have a super-high IQ. Any such test, unsupervised, is worthless as an indicator of intelligence, so pardon me if I'm a bit skeptical.
He looks like a big fat dummy to me.
Maybe, but looks can be deceiving.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 09, 2018, 03:57:42 PM
Maybe, but looks can be deceiving.
Not lookies, wookies, just ask Darth Vader ;-)
I participated in a forum years ago with someone who behaved like a disciple of Chris Langan. When questioned about these theories the disciple would respond with increasingly complicated, grandiloquent responses. He sometimes tried to use mathematics to make his case but according to a mathematician who participated in the discussion, he didn't know what he was talking about. His ultimate argument was that anyone who questioned the concepts was simply too stupid to understand them. I confess I never completely understood the "Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe" so if anyone has a "For Dummies" explanation please let me know.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on January 09, 2018, 07:13:29 PM
I participated in a forum years ago with someone who behaved like a disciple of Chris Langan. When questioned about these theories the disciple would respond with increasingly complicated, grandiloquent responses. He sometimes tried to use mathematics to make his case but according to a mathematician who participated in the discussion, he didn't know what he was talking about. His ultimate argument was that anyone who questioned the concepts was simply too stupid to understand them. I confess I never completely understood the "Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe" so if anyone has a "For Dummies" explanation please let me know.
I would give you a "For Dummies" book, but since you aren't a dummy, you won't understand it ;-)
Quote from: JCM800 on January 09, 2018, 01:52:42 AM
I just learned about this man. I've never heard of him before. For those who don't know who I'm talking about I've linked a video as well as his wikipedia page. Sounds like a load of nonsense to me, but who am I? What do you make of him, his claims, and his ideas?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=--Nbz6flw5A
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Langan
An IQ of 200? He was smarter than the professors in college? Give me a break. According to who? Himself?
"It's a theory--"
No. No it isn't. Is there a large body of peer-reviewed research to support this "theory?" I doubt it. This guy is just another nutjob. He even uses the classic argument of the conservation of matter to support his position. Smartest man in the world? I seriously doubt it.
IQ is overrated ... and usually biased.
Here is the Cornell Entrance Exam for 1891 ... almost no modern people could pass it ...
http://cornellalumnimagazine.com/could-you-have-passed/
For all his supposed intelligence, Chris Langan has fallen into the same cognitive trap that plagues the Kalam cosmological argument, or indeed any argument of the form "not-universe becomes universe" â€" the background assumption of a kind of time. Modern cosmology postulates that time, space and matter started existing together, so there was no point in time without a universe existing â€" time as we know it (the only time we can prove exists) is part and parcel with the universe and does not exist independent of it. Without time, causation doesn't make sense, and the entire question of "what caused the universe?" collapses into meaninglessness.
Whoppee, he's smart. 200? Doubtful, it means little after adulthood.
Quote from: Blackleaf on January 10, 2018, 12:17:25 AM
"It's a theory--"
No. No it isn't. Is there a large body of peer-reviewed research to support this "theory?" I doubt it. This guy is just another nutjob. He even uses the classic argument of the conservation of matter to support his position. Smartest man in the world? I seriously doubt it.
I don't think it even qualifies as a hypothesis, much less a theory. Without any testable predictions, or even a mathematical framework, it's at best a speculation or a conjecture.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 02:02:30 PM
I don't think it even qualifies as a hypothesis, much less a theory. Without any testable predictions, or even a mathematical framework, it's at best a speculation or a conjecture.
I hate it when people misuse the word "theory," especially when people are trying to act smart.
Quote from: Blackleaf on January 10, 2018, 02:13:47 PM
I hate it when people misuse the word "theory," especially when people are trying to act smart.
Everyone here is "Wile E Coyote" but nobody is "Roadrunner"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZZDqwKASbI
Yeah, Mr. Coyote was a very stable genius.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 02:24:19 PM
Yeah, Mr. Coyote was a very stable genius.
We can hope that like the Coyote never caught the Roadrunner, nor the dog catch the car, that Trump won't catch Kim.
Quote from: Baruch on January 10, 2018, 02:25:47 PM
We can hope that like the Coyote never caught the Roadrunner, nor the dog catch the car, that Trump won't catch Kim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kP2piN-03k
Quote from: Blackleaf on January 10, 2018, 02:13:47 PM
I hate it when people misuse the word "theory," especially when people are trying to act smart.
Yeah, a supposition is sure not a theory. I find that annoying myself.
Quote from: Blackleaf on January 10, 2018, 02:13:47 PM
I hate it when people misuse the word "theory," especially when people are trying to act smart.
Just goes to show that smarts is no substitute for an education. I don't care how well you test on an objective test of intelligence, if you grew up in a prescientific, stone-age Amazon nomadic tribe, your knowledge will reflect that fact, and will not be superior to the hardworking, diligent, and curious student of any modern society.
Quote from: Blackleaf on January 10, 2018, 02:31:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kP2piN-03k
There's also this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahrm_kD6scU
Quote from: Hakurei Reimu on January 10, 2018, 06:11:14 PM
Just goes to show that smarts is no substitute for an education. I don't care how well you test on an objective test of intelligence, if you grew up in a prescientific, stone-age Amazon nomadic tribe, your knowledge will reflect that fact, and will not be superior to the hardworking, diligent, and curious student of any modern society.
Sorry, Diana would still kick your soft over-educated ass ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeZ8X5FKl78
Y'all aren't smart, your Seri is ;-)
I beg to differ, sir. The classic iterations of WW had the Amazons as an advanced scientific culture with Greek motifs, and even when they aren't magic is real workable technique and as such there is something to know about it.
Besides, my statement stands even then. Diana would have a knowledge reflecting her society, and she is, in fact, a diligent, hardworking and curious student of her particular learning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kP2piN-03k
Ahh, I remember the days when every movie included a cartoon, and a news reel. On rare occasion, they would also show a Three Stooges short. And it was almost always a double feature. Admission for under twelve was 25 cents; Adults were charged 75 cents. At one time, admission was 5 cents, but that was before my time.
There were some shitty theaters that only showed a single feature, and I thought it was a rip-off. I avoided the gyp joints, however. Why would I spend my allowance money on a single feature when nearer to my house there was a double feature? People would rush to the restrooms between features to pee, and sometimes the restrooms reeked so bad of urine I wouldn't even buy popcorn after going to pee. I couldn't really afford popcorn anyway. It was 10 cents, and the boxes weren't all that big.
Quote from: Hakurei Reimu on January 11, 2018, 11:04:20 AM
I beg to differ, sir. The classic iterations of WW had the Amazons as an advanced scientific culture with Greek motifs, and even when they aren't magic is real workable technique and as such there is something to know about it.
Besides, my statement stands even then. Diana would have a knowledge reflecting her society, and she is, in fact, a diligent, hardworking and curious student of her particular learning.
Well parried ;-0
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 06:23:54 PM
There's also this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahrm_kD6scU
This one is my favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avau9OFPFJ0
Yeah, I've seen that one too, and it's pretty funny! Did the Coyote eat his friend?
Quote from: pato15 on January 18, 2018, 04:57:03 PM
This one is my favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avau9OFPFJ0
The part from 0:44 to about 0:54 reminds me of Inigo Montoya's last line in The Princess Bride:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6-Dt1g2E18
When I was young, I was always on Wiley's side. I could watch all day, cringing at what I knew would be another hopeless effort. I even saw the episode where his Dad told him he could never speak again until he caught the Roadrunner.
Thank you...
The big problem in this world is that there are so many bad theories.
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Quote from: Unbeliever on January 18, 2018, 06:23:04 PM
The part from 0:44 to about 0:54 reminds me of Inigo Montoya's last line in The Princess Bride:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6-Dt1g2E18
AMAZING! And I liked hearing Brian voicing it. ;)