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Humanities Section => Political/Government General Discussion => Topic started by: Shiranu on January 08, 2018, 08:27:50 AM

Title: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Shiranu on January 08, 2018, 08:27:50 AM

https://www.theroot.com/aclu-blasts-new-jersey-prisons-for-banning-award-winnin-1821868965


QuoteA lot of things look funny in the light and when prisons ban a critically-acclaimed book about the discrimination black people face in the criminal justice system...well, that’s more than a little funny.

Nonetheless, according to the Guardian, that’s exactly what is happening in some prisons in New Jersey, who have reportedly banned Michelle Alexander’s The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness .

Records obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) through a public records request show that the book, which was published in 2010 is on lists of publications that inmates in state facilities may not possess. The organization is now calling for the ban to be lifted, saying that the ban violates the First Amendment rights of inmates.

“For the state burdened with this systemic injustice to prohibit prisoners from reading a book about race and mass incarceration is grossly ironic, misguided, and harmful,” ACLU staff attorney Tess Borden wrote in a letter to be sent on MOnday to New Jersey Corrections Commissioner Gary Lanigan.

The Guardian notes that, under regulations in the state, inmates are prohibited from getting publications that threaten prison safety, incite violence, or show how to do certain activities such as make bombs or pick locks. Magazines appealing to a “prurient interest in sex,” , as well as magazines about hip-hop and black culture are also banned.

The records, according to the report, do not make it clear why Alexander’s book was put on the no-go list at New Jersey State Prison in Trenton and Southern State Correctional Facility in Delmont.
But, I’m sure we can hazard a few guesses.


Also banned... magazines that discuss hip hop and African American culture.


Step one of not looking like you are racist... don't silence accusations that you are racist, and don't keep African Americans from being allowed to keep up with their culture. Not rocket science.
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Baruch on January 08, 2018, 12:42:34 PM
Prison populations are mothers of racism.  Skinheads and neo-Nazis for Whites, Islamism for Blacks.
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Jason78 on January 08, 2018, 01:26:02 PM
Prisons are just medieval in america.
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Baruch on January 08, 2018, 06:48:57 PM
Quote from: Jason78 on January 08, 2018, 01:26:02 PM
Prisons are just medieval in america.

Yes, America is medieval, and getting more so.  Please study up on how best to be an ignorant and illiterate peasant.
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Jason78 on January 10, 2018, 01:22:00 AM
Quote from: Baruch on January 08, 2018, 06:48:57 PM
Yes, America is medieval, and getting more so.  Please study up on how best to be an ignorant and illiterate peasant.

I don't live in america, therefore not my problem.
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Luther Martini on January 10, 2018, 03:31:03 AM
Quote from: Baruch on January 08, 2018, 06:48:57 PM
... Please study up on how best to be an ignorant and illiterate peasant.

That's easy.

--  don't believe anything from the scientific community or "liberal media"

--  keep the TV tuned to Fox News, unless watching NASCAR or an appropriately sponsored sporting event.

--  don't listen to any music except country and "christian rock".

--  stay fucked up on beer, pain killers, meth, or some combination thereof until your life spins out of control, then join a mega-church for guidance in how to best fit into society.

Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Baruch on January 10, 2018, 03:33:01 AM
Quote from: Jason78 on January 10, 2018, 01:22:00 AM
I don't live in america, therefore not my problem.

So a place less advanced?  Too bad for you ;-))  Remember, actual advance is due to entropy, and entropy means food turns into shit.
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Baruch on January 10, 2018, 03:34:32 AM
Quote from: Luther Martini on January 10, 2018, 03:31:03 AM
That's easy.

--  don't believe anything from the scientific community or "liberal media"

--  keep the TV tuned to Fox News, unless watching NASCAR or an appropriately sponsored sporting event.

--  don't listen to any music except country and "christian rock".

--  stay fucked up on beer, pain killers, meth, or some combination thereof until your life spins out of control, then join a mega-church for guidance in how to best fit into society.

No ... be Labor or Democrat ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2c-X8HiBng

SJWs in 1200 CE.
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Luther Martini on January 10, 2018, 03:45:27 AM
Quote from: Baruch on January 10, 2018, 03:34:32 AM


SJWs in 1200 CE.

"Must be a king" .. "He hasn't got shit all over him."
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Cavebear on January 10, 2018, 11:13:18 AM
The best description I've seen recently was an analogy to 'Animal Farm'...
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Baruch on January 10, 2018, 02:28:02 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on January 10, 2018, 11:13:18 AM
The best description I've seen recently was an analogy to 'Animal Farm'...

Well, we know what part of which animal's anatomy you are analogous to ... ;-)
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 02:36:40 PM
Quote from: Baruch on January 10, 2018, 03:33:01 AM
So a place less advanced?  Too bad for you ;-))  Remember, actual advance is due to entropy, and entropy means food turns into shit.
Quote from: Baruch on January 10, 2018, 02:28:02 PM
Well, we know what part of which animal's anatomy you are analogous to ... ;-)
Ad hominem much?
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Baruch on January 10, 2018, 02:39:42 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 02:36:40 PM
Ad hominem much?

See smilies ... or admit you really are a 19 year old in diapers, living in your parent's basement ;-)  After I have called everyone here a dirty ape (see Planet of the Apes) there isn't much Left to say.
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 02:41:09 PM
Yeah, but I bet you'll say it anyway...
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Baruch on January 10, 2018, 02:55:07 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 02:41:09 PM
Yeah, but I bet you'll say it anyway...

I am what I am ... (sounds like a demigod, doesn't it?).  It isn't my responsibility how you choose to take it.
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Cavebear on January 10, 2018, 02:57:20 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 02:36:40 PM
Ad hominem much?

Yeah, his favorite tactic...  "Say nothing and do it profoundly". 
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Baruch on January 10, 2018, 02:59:50 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on January 10, 2018, 02:57:20 PM
Yeah, his favorite tactic...  "Say nothing and do it profoundly".

Jealous much?  That used to be called the "Evil Eye".  But Bear with me ...
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 03:00:12 PM
Quote from: Baruch on January 10, 2018, 02:55:07 PM
I am what I am ... (sounds like a demigod, doesn't it?).
Sounds like an ancient Egyptian god called Nuk Pu Nuk.
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Baruch on January 10, 2018, 03:02:09 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 03:00:12 PM
Sounds like an ancient Egyptian god called Nuk Pu Nuk.

You are what you are.  But I am mature enough to not be triggered by it.
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Cavebear on January 10, 2018, 03:40:41 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 03:00:12 PM
Sounds like an ancient Egyptian god called Nuk Pu Nuk.

Not to get off the subect entirely, but have you ever wondered if human advancement can be measured by complex syllables naming their deities?  Surely not someting I've studied, but I wonder sometimes.  Although I would specify Aryan names.
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Baruch on January 10, 2018, 04:02:23 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on January 10, 2018, 03:40:41 PM
Not to get off the subect entirely, but have you ever wondered if human advancement can be measured by complex syllables naming their deities?  Surely not someting I've studied, but I wonder sometimes.  Although I would specify Aryan names.

That works in ancient Semitic languages, Sumerian, and Chinese.  They are agglutinative (words built by linear addition to front or end).  So it isn't just for deity names.

Consider An (Sumerian) who gets replaced by Marduk (Semitic).  Once we get to the NT, it is very advanced, Beelzebub. Four syllables.  In Chinese, they started with one syllable nouns, that quickly evolve into two syllable nouns.  Aka two characters (each character is one syllable).  Today, a great many Chinese words are four characters long.  On that basis, the Welsh are the most advanced society ...

https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyll
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 04:05:28 PM
Llanfairpwllgwyngyll

That's easy for you to say!
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Baruch on January 10, 2018, 04:06:17 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 04:05:28 PM
Llanfairpwllgwyngyll

That's easy for you to say!

That is the abbreviation!
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Cavebear on January 10, 2018, 04:18:44 PM
And happy fishing on Lake Chaubunagungamaug to both of you...
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 04:20:49 PM
Quote from: Baruch on January 10, 2018, 04:06:17 PM
That is the abbreviation!
Oh, I thought maybe it was an acronym!
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Baruch on January 10, 2018, 04:22:38 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 04:20:49 PM
Oh, I thought maybe it was an acronym!

Full name ...
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Cavebear on January 10, 2018, 04:24:25 PM
Quote from: Baruch on January 10, 2018, 04:22:38 PM
Full name ...
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

Yeah, "you fish on your side, yadda yadda yadda"...
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 04:26:35 PM
Quote from: Baruch on January 10, 2018, 04:22:38 PM
Full name ...
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
Wow, that word's only slightly smaller than the population of the town!
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Cavebear on January 10, 2018, 04:28:39 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 04:26:35 PM
Wow, that word's only slightly smaller than the population of the town!

Wouldn't you love to see THAT one on Wheel Of Fortune?  LOL!
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 04:29:37 PM
 :rrotflmao:
Title: Re: New Jersey Prisons Ban Book... about Discrimination in the Justice System
Post by: Cavebear on January 10, 2018, 04:31:15 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 10, 2018, 04:29:37 PM
:rrotflmao:

Vanna, give me 10 "Y"s please...