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Title: Lillia Tarawa - "I Grew Up In A Cult", Gloriavale NZ Tedx Talk
Post by: Shiranu on December 24, 2017, 11:08:42 PM


A woman's experience growing up in a Christian cult town of about 600 people... a cult town that still exists to this day. It's not a happy story, but at least it has a happy ending.
Title: Re: Lillia Tarawa - "I Grew Up In A Cult", Gloriavale NZ Tedx Talk
Post by: Baruch on December 25, 2017, 08:15:57 AM
It is good to have a particular culture (as opposed to generic) and to have closeness with relatives and neighbors.  But too much of a good thing.  I think this comes from parents being paranoid, and wanting to protect their children.  Perhaps that drives much of home-schooling.  Don't deal with symptoms, deal with causes.  Lack of free psychiatric care is even more of an issue that lack of free medical care.

My growing up experience in major metro areas was the opposite .. distance with relatives and neighbors.  Culture based on the TV.  This created a need in me for something more specific, more exclusive.  Religion and ethnicity fulfilled this.  But I control how much, and in what manner I do it.
Title: Re: Lillia Tarawa - "I Grew Up In A Cult", Gloriavale NZ Tedx Talk
Post by: Cavebear on December 26, 2017, 12:07:48 PM
Quote from: Baruch on December 25, 2017, 08:15:57 AM
It is good to have a particular culture (as opposed to generic) and to have closeness with relatives and neighbors.  But too much of a good thing.  I think this comes from parents being paranoid, and wanting to protect their children.  Perhaps that drives much of home-schooling.  Don't deal with symptoms, deal with causes.  Lack of free psychiatric care is even more of an issue that lack of free medical care.

My growing up experience in major metro areas was the opposite .. distance with relatives and neighbors.  Culture based on the TV.  This created a need in me for something more specific, more exclusive.  Religion and ethnicity fulfilled this.  But I control how much, and in what manner I do it.

I wish I could justify forced "de-culting".  But I can't.  And would fight to prevent it.  The best I can support is neutral territory and freedom to decide with whatever help someone wants.
Title: Re: Lillia Tarawa - "I Grew Up In A Cult", Gloriavale NZ Tedx Talk
Post by: Baruch on December 26, 2017, 01:20:10 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on December 26, 2017, 12:07:48 PM
I wish I could justify forced "de-culting".  But I can't.  And would fight to prevent it.  The best I can support is neutral territory and freedom to decide with whatever help someone wants.

De-programming was itself a cult of hysteria in the 1980s.  Too bad nobody ever thought to deprogram Democrats?  or Republicans?  I see ideology even more dangerous than theology.
Title: Re: Lillia Tarawa - "I Grew Up In A Cult", Gloriavale NZ Tedx Talk
Post by: Unbeliever on December 26, 2017, 05:50:59 PM
They should've put more powder on those beautiful - shiny - cheeks.
Title: Re: Lillia Tarawa - "I Grew Up In A Cult", Gloriavale NZ Tedx Talk
Post by: Sal1981 on December 26, 2017, 06:17:36 PM
Gloriavale sounds like a shit-show of a cult.
Title: Re: Lillia Tarawa - "I Grew Up In A Cult", Gloriavale NZ Tedx Talk
Post by: fencerider on December 31, 2017, 10:53:11 PM
I am going to guess that there are some communities in the south that are just as screwed up as her town
Title: Re: Lillia Tarawa - "I Grew Up In A Cult", Gloriavale NZ Tedx Talk
Post by: Baruch on December 31, 2017, 11:11:16 PM
Quote from: fencerider on December 31, 2017, 10:53:11 PM
I am going to guess that there are some communities in the south that are just as screwed up as her town

All human culture, on the small scale, is tribal.  Do you think you are the exception?  On the mass scale, is it better?  Maybe.

I have lived in giant metro areas (LA area) and villages of 200 people.  What I find is that, unless you are born in the village, you are always a foreigner.  Of course in the example of this girl, she has the view of an insider.  In a giant metro, nobody notices you coming or going.  Except in country club circles nobody cares either.  The country club is like a village, a very wealthy village.  They follow the cult of money.