Had a strange nightmare last night.
I was running late for an important event at the university, the kind of important which is crucial for graduation, and I needed to grab something from my room. I return to my dorm and enter my room and immediately notice noises coming from my restroom. I call out and a voice answers that the individual is an RA/residence maintenance. I need to grab a few things from my room and only have a few minutes so I move quickly as the individual walks out of the restroom and I freeze.
The man is wearing glasses and casual clothing. He also is wearing a KKK hood on his head. To be fair the hood appears to be made of some burlap material but this makes the situation worse. Also, it may be pertinent to mention I'm black.
I'm stunned with so many questions flying through my head and scanning the room and his person for other people and weapons. He's unarmed and we're alone. I'm not sure what to do as I'm still in shock. I move to grab my belongings and keep up small talk as I try to leave as soon as possible. I remember he was watching a movie which oddly enough was the sequel to Warrior starring Tom Hardy, except this time there were people outside the MMA cage also wearing KKK hoods like it was nothing. We exchange some dumb comments but one exchange stood out in particular.
Him: "Yeah, my friends and I are going to a fight later on."
Me: "Yeah who are you fighting."
Him: "Snails."
Me: "Oh, haha that's weird."
Him: "Yeah, I'm pretty cynical. Hey if you and your friends would like to schedule a fight, we'd be happy to oblige."
Me: "No thanks!"
I leave finally shaken by the experience, and not even bothering to check if he has left or all my belongings remain in the room. For some reason, I went to my best friend on campus (instead of the important event) and told him and broke into tears, which is saying something as I'm almost always the badass hero in my dreams and would never be caught dead crying in front of anyone except my mother.
I guess I realized I should've left immediately and used the event as an excuse but I was in shock. I didn't know what to do honestly, as I only have his word that he's an RA and don't know his real name or identity. The scariest part is how casual he was about the encounter as if he wasn't wearing a hate symbol and the fact that he had unfettered access to my room. If I report the incident might his friends show up on my doorstep? In my bedroom? When he says "your friends" is he inviting black folk to fight with KKK members? No Thanks!!
I woke up and I swear this is the first time in my life I've been well and truly terrified by a dream, like fear pounding in my heart. I also rarely ever interpret dreams but I took this one to symbolize the invisibility of racism and how it could be anyone in any position of authority and how bold and unapologetic white nationalism has become. I've heard of racism affecting physical, emotional and mental health but never dreams. This dream also made me think of the future of racism in this country and apologetics allowing blatant hate symbols in our streets. In 10 years or so will we see masses of people walking around wearing hate symbols under free speech? What does this mean for the evolution of white violence?
Thoughts?
Dreams are random thoughts from the subconscious that the conscious tries to arrange in a logical order. They don't MEAN anything.
Quote from: Absurd Atheist on November 17, 2017, 08:55:01 PM
Had a strange nightmare last night.
I was running late for an important event at the university, the kind of important which is crucial for graduation, and I needed to grab something from my room. I return to my dorm and enter my room and immediately notice noises coming from my restroom. I call out and a voice answers that the individual is an RA/residence maintenance. I need to grab a few things from my room and only have a few minutes so I move quickly as the individual walks out of the restroom and I freeze.
The man is wearing glasses and casual clothing. He also is wearing a KKK hood on his head. To be fair the hood appears to be made of some burlap material but this makes the situation worse. Also, it may be pertinent to mention I'm black.
I'm stunned with so many questions flying through my head and scanning the room and his person for other people and weapons. He's unarmed and we're alone. I'm not sure what to do as I'm still in shock. I move to grab my belongings and keep up small talk as I try to leave as soon as possible. I remember he was watching a movie which oddly enough was the sequel to Warrior starring Tom Hardy, except this time there were people outside the MMA cage also wearing KKK hoods like it was nothing. We exchange some dumb comments but one exchange stood out in particular.
Him: "Yeah, my friends and I are going to a fight later on."
Me: "Yeah who are you fighting."
Him: "Snails."
Me: "Oh, haha that's weird."
Him: "Yeah, I'm pretty cynical. Hey if you and your friends would like to schedule a fight, we'd be happy to oblige."
Me: "No thanks!"
I leave finally shaken by the experience, and not even bothering to check if he has left or all my belongings remain in the room. For some reason, I went to my best friend on campus (instead of the important event) and told him and broke into tears, which is saying something as I'm almost always the badass hero in my dreams and would never be caught dead crying in front of anyone except my mother.
I guess I realized I should've left immediately and used the event as an excuse but I was in shock. I didn't know what to do honestly, as I only have his word that he's an RA and don't know his real name or identity. The scariest part is how casual he was about the encounter as if he wasn't wearing a hate symbol and the fact that he had unfettered access to my room. If I report the incident might his friends show up on my doorstep? In my bedroom? When he says "your friends" is he inviting black folk to fight with KKK members? No Thanks!!
I woke up and I swear this is the first time in my life I've been well and truly terrified by a dream, like fear pounding in my heart. I also rarely ever interpret dreams but I took this one to symbolize the invisibility of racism and how it could be anyone in any position of authority and how bold and unapologetic white nationalism has become. I've heard of racism affecting physical, emotional and mental health but never dreams. This dream also made me think of the future of racism in this country and apologetics allowing blatant hate symbols in our streets. In 10 years or so will we see masses of people walking around wearing hate symbols under free speech? What does this mean for the evolution of white violence?
Thoughts?
First, they reflect fears.. And you have vivid dreams like I do. I should write short stories about them. Last night, I drove a cr a I never owned along my pre-retirement commute. Then I was walking the commute. Then I was in the weird car and driving into a dead end street, marked do not enter, but I did. There was a mansion at the end of the street. But also a car repair shop and I was in it. I had a flat tire. The garage was unbelievebly crowded with junk car parts.
As I tried to lift the car with a jack, the car started to fall apart. The jack handle became flimsy, the tires got worn, and horror moviesh children started stealing things from the garage. Everytime I tried to fix the car, there was less of it left.
By morning, all that was left was the flat tire of my car and the garage was completely empty. I* went around demanding to know where my car was and the children were laughing at me. Ther the place was completely empty inside and I was locked in.
Fortunately, there was a row of various shapes of glass bottles still inside and I threw them through the door windows and climbed out. Some friend I couldn't recognize was there too. I know it was a person from real life, but he was always behind me so I never saw his face.
I woke up.
I never have monster dreams. Most involve my office career. I am unretired and confused and planning to announce my 2nd retirement. Sometimes the bathrooms at the office don't work, have glass walls, or are the toilets are weird shapes.
No monsters though.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on November 17, 2017, 10:02:53 PM
Dreams are random thoughts from the subconscious that the conscious tries to arrange in a logical order. They don't MEAN anything.
Normally, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but this was odd and an abnormal type of dream for me. I suppose I'm just asking what you think of my interpretation of the dream, not necessarily that it holds an inherent meaning.
Quote from: Cavebear on November 17, 2017, 11:01:54 PM
First, they reflect fears...No monsters though.
Interesting, I typically have two types of dreams. One revolves around people and places I know in real life and random bizarre scenarios such as the classic naked at school which I had in high school mostly.
The other type as I mentioned before revolves around me fleeing armies of impossible odds and fighting viciously monsters or horrifying creatures while kicking everyone's ass. I've fled through a haunted house hiding from a Gatling-gun wielding Frankenstein and his cruel bride, and multi-tiered dimensions where each level has a different type of invincible demon(s). Or just an overwhelming number of people trying to kill me and my familiars, and I have to fight to protect them. I'm usually a capable hero in the dream world, but the odds are always insurmountable.
However, these types of dreams don't really scare me like last nights did, and have become something almost formulaic for me. I've thought greatly about short stories as well and try to record my most vivid dreams in a dream journal in the seconds after I wake up.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on November 17, 2017, 10:02:53 PM
Dreams are random thoughts from the subconscious that the conscious tries to arrange in a logical order. They don't MEAN anything.
Eeeeeeh... Dreams can tell us some things about our fears. The purpose of nightmares, after all, is to prepare us for conflicts we may encounter in real life, even if they are fantastical in nature. When those fears are reoccurring themes in your nightmares, they probably reflect on issues that preoccupy you when you're awake. For me, a common theme in my dreams to this day is the way all of the other characters in my dreams basically ignore me. They will not help when I ask for help. They will barely acknowledge me most of the time. There can be a monster chasing me around, and they will not respond to my cries for help at all. Of course, this reflects a perception of mine that others do not value my input, and that I'm virtually invisible to others. I mean seriously, I'm about six feet tall, but I was sitting right next to this guy once when he asked where I was.
Quote from: Absurd Atheist on November 17, 2017, 11:19:54 PM
Normally, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but this was odd and an abnormal type of dream for me. I suppose I'm just asking what you think of my interpretation of the dream, not necessarily that it holds an inherent meaning.
OK...
You are running late. That is a general fear. There is something wrong about your room (familiar territory). Do you actually have a restroom in your room? I sure didn't.
A stranger is in your room. Dislike your roommate? I did. Crazy dude senior who could sleep through a buzzing alarm clock that drove me crazy from the loudness.
So you have or had roommate issues.
"The man is wearing glasses and casual clothing. He also is wearing a KKK hood on his head. To be fair the hood appears to be made of some burlap material but this makes the situation worse. Also, it may be pertinent to mention I'm black."
Sounds like the nut psychologist from Batman and minority non-acceptance fears.
"I move to grab my belongings and keep up small talk as I try to leave as soon as possible. "
You are uncomfortable in college among strangers.
"Me: "Yeah who are you fighting. Him: "Snails."
The absurdity of the situation...
"Him: "Yeah, I'm pretty cynical. Hey if you and your friends would like to schedule a fight, we'd be happy to oblige.""
A fear that fighting is routine. An actually friendly enemy. Politely offers a fight you don't want. Might be political...
"For some reason, I went to my best friend on campus (instead of the important event) and told him and broke into tears"
A release of fear in the presence of a friend. And did you actually have that friend? Or are you still holding in some tears?
"would never be caught dead crying in front of anyone except my mother"
Why just your Mother. What about that friend you mentioned?
"as I only have his word that he's an RA and don't know his real name or identity. The scariest part is how casual he was about the encounter as if he wasn't wearing a hate symbol and the fact that he had unfettered access to my room. "
Oh shit, Why would the RA have access to your room? Something happened and you don't want to remember him.
Racist, sexist, abusive?
Wow.
Well, you asked for thoughts...
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on November 17, 2017, 10:02:53 PM
Dreams are random thoughts from the subconscious that the conscious tries to arrange in a logical order. They don't MEAN anything.
You wish. Nihilists (not you?) would say that waking thoughts don't mean anything either.
Quote from: Absurd Atheist on November 17, 2017, 11:19:54 PM
Normally, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but this was odd and an abnormal type of dream for me. I suppose I'm just asking what you think of my interpretation of the dream, not necessarily that it holds an inherent meaning.
i think it is in the interpretation part, often while it is happening, is the dodgy part. Freud wrote a book on dream interpretation. You aren't really functional at that point, assuming you even are when awake (been drinking?). I have some vivid dreams too, some quite detailed, but short. Sometimes I wake up during them, and start applying a more elaborate interpretation that I would had I stayed asleep. My advice ... if you have a nightmare, train yourself to wake up.
Quote from: Baruch on November 18, 2017, 02:48:13 AM
i think it is in the interpretation part, often while it is happening, is the dodgy part. Freud wrote a book on dream interpretation. You aren't really functional at that point, assuming you even are when awake (been drinking?). I have some vivid dreams too, some quite detailed, but short. Sometimes I wake up during them, and start applying a more elaborate interpretation that I would had I stayed asleep. My advice ... if you have a nightmare, train yourself to wake up.
Even as a lucid dreamer, I've never been able to will myself awake during nightmares. I can feel the muscles in my eyes moving as I try to open them, but it doesn't work. Actually, that's probably a good thing, because the one time my eyes did open in the middle of a dream, I had sleep paralysis and started hallucinating. There have been a few times when my dreams convinced me I've woken up, though. Things getting confusing then, as I wake up in my bed and can't really tell if it's for real this time, or just another dream. The one thing I've found that actually works in waking me up consistently is when my brain gets enough excitement or arousal (as in mental arousal) to jolt me awake. I've noticed that whether my dream excites me in a good way or a bad way, my dream typically ends pretty quick. So rather than running from the monster in your nightmares, the better solution may be to run straight to it. Either you'll wake up when the monster "kills you," or you'll stop being afraid of it and you'll transition from nightmare to normal dream.
I think the dream probably means something, even though it's just random bits of subconscious thoughts. But your interpretation, correct of not, absolutely does mean something. It doesn't predict the future or anything like that, but it gives you some insight about things that are meaningful to you. Fears are meaningful things. The fear might be irrational, but the fact that you have fears, or at a minimum, just thoughts about your life IS important.
This whole reawakening of racism in the US is meaningful. It may or may not be a fear you are suppressing, but for me this current resurgence of racism is a fear of my own that I'm fully aware of. I'm fearful, because I have no idea if it's the last dying attempt of bigots to assert themselves, or an actual reawakening of something that is nothing short of horrid in the American psyche. I've seen too much shit in my life to make those kinds of assumptions about where we are heading. I want America to succeed, to be something noble and worth having, but I'm not taking any bets on that.
There are just too many negative forces at play. Democracy might just turn out to be an experiment that fails. I don't take anything for granted. We can fuck this all up without even trying very hard.
Quote from: SGOS on November 18, 2017, 02:41:55 PM
I think the dream probably means something, even though it's just random bits of subconscious thoughts. But your interpretation, correct of not, absolutely does mean something. It doesn't predict the future or anything like that, but it gives you some insight about things that are meaningful to you. Fears are meaningful things. The fear might be irrational, but the fact that you have fears, or at a minimum, just thoughts about your life IS important.
This whole reawakening of racism in the US is meaningful. It may or may not be a fear you are suppressing, but for me this current resurgence of racism is a fear of my own that I'm fully aware of. I'm fearful, because I have no idea if it's the last dying attempt of bigots to assert themselves, or an actual reawakening of something that is nothing short of horrid in the American psyche. I've seen too much shit in my life to make those kinds of assumptions about where we are heading. I want America to succeed, to be something noble and worth having, but I'm not taking any bets on that.
There are just too many negative forces at play. Democracy might just turn out to be an experiment that fails. I don't take anything for granted. We can fuck this all up without even trying very hard.
I've been thinking a lot about the future as well as we certainly live in absurd times. The absurdity of the dream lies in the casual manner the stranger was speaking as though he wasn't wearing a KKK hood on his head or invading my personal space. I wonder if we could see the manifestation of this type of boldness in the future where bigotry becomes a lifestyle and hate symbols are just another article of clothing.
Quote from: Blackleaf on November 18, 2017, 11:56:17 AM
Even as a lucid dreamer, I've never been able to will myself awake during nightmares. I can feel the muscles in my eyes moving as I try to open them, but it doesn't work. Actually, that's probably a good thing, because the one time my eyes did open in the middle of a dream, I had sleep paralysis and started hallucinating. There have been a few times when my dreams convinced me I've woken up, though. Things getting confusing then, as I wake up in my bed and can't really tell if it's for real this time, or just another dream. The one thing I've found that actually works in waking me up consistently is when my brain gets enough excitement or arousal (as in mental arousal) to jolt me awake. I've noticed that whether my dream excites me in a good way or a bad way, my dream typically ends pretty quick. So rather than running from the monster in your nightmares, the better solution may be to run straight to it. Either you'll wake up when the monster "kills you," or you'll stop being afraid of it and you'll transition from nightmare to normal dream.
Yes, waking up into another dream is weird. Did it at least once. Realized ... this isn't my bedroom.
Arousal often will wake me up, but arousal doesn't happen as much as it used to. My cat gets me awake frequently ... she helps me avoid night-cats instead of night-mares ;-)
Quote from: Absurd Atheist on November 18, 2017, 03:17:32 PM
I've been thinking a lot about the future as well as we certainly live in absurd times. The absurdity of the dream lies in the casual manner the stranger was speaking as though he wasn't wearing a KKK hood on his head or invading my personal space. I wonder if we could see the manifestation of this type of boldness in the future where bigotry becomes a lifestyle and hate symbols are just another article of clothing.
I don't think we ever left that era. The dominance of hippies in the Boomer generation was fleeting at best.
Quote from: Absurd Atheist on November 18, 2017, 03:17:32 PM
The absurdity of the dream lies in the casual manner the stranger was speaking as though he wasn't wearing a KKK hood on his head or invading my personal space.
I experience that quite often in dreams. Something that in real life that would carry huge emotional affect is dealt with in the dream as casual or even normal. I don't know why that happens. Maybe because the dream is just spewing out random scenarios. Sometimes, but not often, my dreams are terrifying. Usually though, the emotional components are diminished.
Quote from: Absurd Atheist on November 18, 2017, 03:17:32 PM
I wonder if we could see the manifestation of this type of boldness in the future where bigotry becomes a lifestyle and hate symbols are just another article of clothing.
That might be pointing out your interpretation of how an oppressor might feel about his oppression as in "it's just the way things should be and not a negative." A lot of oppression is done out of sheer ignorance, which might not carry with it an emotional component. Although, it's hard to imagine the KKK not being truly mean spirited at its core. I would guess that much oppression is more thoughtless in nature. That in itself should be serious cause for alarm, because it would mean that a lot of people would gravitate toward just ignoring a bad situation without much compassion, while giving the bigots more freedom to do harm. A lot of bad things happen from people simply not caring or thinking about what is happening.
My black friend was telling me one time about when he was a kid. Some Grand Poobah of the KKK lived in his neighborhood, and my friend said that one on one, he was a real nice guy. I still can't wrap my head around that. I keep thinking, "Rodger, you had to have been misreading that one." But I wasn't there, either, so I can't explain why he would think that.
Quote from: Cavebear on November 17, 2017, 11:01:54 PMI never have monster dreams.
I almost always have monster dreams.
My personal favorite nightmare was one where I "wake up" deep in the woods next to a stream. Sometimes, I see a fox. Other than that, there's nothing but trees and bushes as far as the eye can see. Then, I see a vaguely humanoid giant (roughly 10 feet tall). Except I don't really see it - it's completely black, the sort of blackness that sucks in light (https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/oLzK64UC0N6UlPc8yWdBmIjIvuI=/1072x720/filters:no_upscale()/https://public-media.smithsonianmag.com/filer/5d/df/5ddf10bd-391e-46ce-8133-856193dcc80c/vanta.jpg) - I can only see its shape and the shimmering light around its edges. It charges me. I die. I wake up. The cycle repeats. I run, it chases me down. I fight, it overpowers me. I try to reason with it, it attacks. Over and over again. Nothing works. I've even tried to follow the fox, but it scurries away and I eventually lose track of it. Then, bam, monster. I've gotten this nightmare several times. I have never succeeded.
My best non-nightmare dream is a place I call The Nexus (Star Trek reference). This place is entirely fluid, like an endless sea. It's not harmful, it's actually sort of relaxing (just don't think about drowning) You can fly/swim with your thoughts. It took me forever to pick that up. You don't move through three dimensions exactly, you move between thoughts - moving from one association to the next. If you think about water, you might wind up at a beach or waterfall or lake, from the beach you can go to a desert, from the desert you can go to a pyramid, etc. You navigate a stream of consciousness and it can take you to nice places or bad places depending on your state of mind at the time (so please, don't think about drowning). It's possible to go anywhere there. Real, imagined, past, future, here, far away - anywhere. There's a lot of interesting stuff in there. And there's also drowned people. Lots of them. But don't think about that.
Quote from: SGOS on November 18, 2017, 04:26:45 PM
My black friend was telling me one time about when he was a kid. Some Grand Poobah of the KKK lived in his neighborhood, and my friend said that one on one, he was a real nice guy. I still can't wrap my head around that. I keep thinking, "Rodger, you had to have been misreading that one." But I wasn't there, either, so I can't explain why he would think that.
Even members of the KKK don't believe that they are racist. They think they simply see the world for what it is. They may even treat black individuals with respect while harboring hate for the group as a whole. Their cognitive dissonance leads the to consider good black people as exceptions to the norm.
Dreams of course seldom represent reality, but they do seem to incorporate elements of reality mixed up.
I frequently have dreams where I am not retired but planning to, am retired but back in the office hoping retire a 2nd time, or in previous offices all mixed together badly.
The worst dreams are when I THINK I wake up and am late for work thinking "Man I have GOT to retire". On at least one occasion, I actually got up at "the usual time" and showered and started to dress for work.
Fortunately, it was the closet that stopped me. My office clothes weren't there.
Quote from: Cavebear on November 26, 2017, 03:16:37 AM
Dreams of course seldom represent reality, but they do seem to incorporate elements of reality mixed up.
I frequently have dreams where I am not retired but planning to, am retired but back in the office hoping retire a 2nd time, or in previous offices all mixed together badly.
The worst dreams are when I THINK I wake up and am late for work thinking "Man I have GOT to retire". On at least one occasion, I actually got up at "the usual time" and showered and started to dress for work.
Fortunately, it was the closet that stopped me. My office clothes weren't there.
Pyjamas aren't the usual government work clothing? I have done the same on a weekend, I think it is Monday, but it is not. Long holidays are more disorienting.
Quote from: Hydra009 on November 18, 2017, 06:14:29 PM
I almost always have monster dreams.
My personal favorite nightmare was one where I "wake up" deep in the woods next to a stream. Sometimes, I see a fox. Other than that, there's nothing but trees and bushes as far as the eye can see. Then, I see a vaguely humanoid giant (roughly 10 feet tall). Except I don't really see it - it's completely black, the sort of blackness that sucks in light (https://thumbs-prod.si-cdn.com/oLzK64UC0N6UlPc8yWdBmIjIvuI=/1072x720/filters:no_upscale()/https://public-media.smithsonianmag.com/filer/5d/df/5ddf10bd-391e-46ce-8133-856193dcc80c/vanta.jpg) - I can only see its shape and the shimmering light around its edges. It charges me. I die. I wake up. The cycle repeats. I run, it chases me down. I fight, it overpowers me. I try to reason with it, it attacks. Over and over again. Nothing works. I've even tried to follow the fox, but it scurries away and I eventually lose track of it. Then, bam, monster. I've gotten this nightmare several times. I have never succeeded.
My best non-nightmare dream is a place I call The Nexus (Star Trek reference). This place is entirely fluid, like an endless sea. It's not harmful, it's actually sort of relaxing (just don't think about drowning) You can fly/swim with your thoughts. It took me forever to pick that up. You don't move through three dimensions exactly, you move between thoughts - moving from one association to the next. If you think about water, you might wind up at a beach or waterfall or lake, from the beach you can go to a desert, from the desert you can go to a pyramid, etc. You navigate a stream of consciousness and it can take you to nice places or bad places depending on your state of mind at the time (so please, don't think about drowning). It's possible to go anywhere there. Real, imagined, past, future, here, far away - anywhere. There's a lot of interesting stuff in there. And there's also drowned people. Lots of them. But don't think about that.
My nightmares either are rather realistic: running late, having my teeth fall out, failing an exam, ...
But I also sometimes have 'monster nightmares'. With me, its Always zombies, everywhere around me. There are usually other people too, not people I know but strangers. They fall left and right, consumed and eaten. I want to help them, I try, but I keep myself alive above all. I keep running and dodging and letting people die to escape untill at the end of the dream, I'm the only one left.
When they all come for me, that's most often when I wake up.
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on November 27, 2017, 07:11:49 AM
My nightmares either are rather realistic: running late, having my teeth fall out, failing an exam, ...
But I also sometimes have 'monster nightmares'. With me, its Always zombies, everywhere around me. There are usually other people too, not people I know but strangers. They fall left and right, consumed and eaten. I want to help them, I try, but I keep myself alive above all. I keep running and dodging and letting people die to escape untill at the end of the dream, I'm the only one left.
When they all come for me, that's most often when I wake up.
Those aren't zombies, those are EU commissioners ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on November 27, 2017, 01:44:49 PM
Those aren't zombies, those are EU commissioners ;-)
That would explain why they moan "Brrrrrexitttt" instead of "Brrrrraaaiiinssss"
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on November 27, 2017, 07:11:49 AM
My nightmares either are rather realistic: running late, having my teeth fall out, failing an exam, ...
But I also sometimes have 'monster nightmares'. With me, its Always zombies, everywhere around me. There are usually other people too, not people I know but strangers. They fall left and right, consumed and eaten. I want to help them, I try, but I keep myself alive above all. I keep running and dodging and letting people die to escape untill at the end of the dream, I'm the only one left.
When they all come for me, that's most often when I wake up.
I am always amazed at monster dreams described by others. I never have those. Or maybe my "monsters" are twisted versions of real past events. Always real people, but not acting normally. Acting stupidly, Acting crazily. Those are the people *I* fear.
Quote from: Cavebear on December 02, 2017, 04:26:45 AM
I am always amazed at monster dreams described by others. I never have those. Or maybe my "monsters" are twisted versions of real past events. Always real people, but not acting normally. Acting stupidly, Acting crazily. Those are the people *I* fear.
No need to fear people, the worst they can do is torture and kill you. Don't think I have many monster dreams, had one as a kid, like Jurassic Park, but it was stupid. I climbed up a tree to escape a dinosaur, and he bit my leg (not high enough) and it didn't hurt. Still like dinosaurs though.
Quote from: Baruch on December 02, 2017, 12:33:41 PM
No need to fear people, the worst they can do is torture and kill you. Don't think I have many monster dreams, had one as a kid, like Jurassic Park, but it was stupid. I climbed up a tree to escape a dinosaur, and he bit my leg (not high enough) and it didn't hurt. Still like dinosaurs though.
The t-rex was a reoccurring monster in my nightmares. One time I had I dream I was in this giant bunker-like room, and a dark-violet t-rex that was several stories tall was on the other side of the room. The rest of the room was virtually empty, so I had nowhere to hide. I can't remember what happened after that. In another dream, I was up in trees, and the t-rex from Jurassic Park kept poking its head out above the top of the tree line like it was looking for me. Eventually it did find me and the shock woke me up.
I've also had nightmares of a monster that can also see you if you see it, or if you swallow a pill that turned you into a lure (which my little sister swallowed without knowing what it was). There's an inescapable monster that always appears if I look outside a certain glass door when it's dark outside, and this one had super speed. There was a black cat with a long tail that always managed to be just out of view (the tail being the only thing I could catch a glimpse of) until it jumps me from behind. There's a mirror version of me, which I can sense nearby, and which follows my exact movements until it catches sight of me. This one is the one I've seen most recently, staring at me from the other side of my bedroom window.
You're lucky to even remember your dreams. I just lay down, and after I've woken up again, it's like I never went to bed apart from sorta rested.
Last really bad nightmare I had was about two weeks after watching a movie called Bone Tomahawk. A fairly good movie, but horridly grotesque and violent. The images in my dream were taken from that movie. It was a max gross out, and I remained in a disturbed state for an hour after I woke up.
Quote from: SGOS on December 04, 2017, 04:37:57 PM
Last really bad nightmare I had was about two weeks after watching a movie called Bone Tomahawk. A fairly good movie, but horridly grotesque and violent. The images in my dream were taken from that movie. It was a max gross out, and I remained in a disturbed state for an hour after I woke up.
I've never had a nightmare based off a movie before, but had several ones almost like it was a movie. One involved being trapped in a suburban house with a serial killer and unable to escape.
as for bone tomahawk, part of me wants to watch that, I often work to find good horror movies that will genuinely scare me, but I am still to this day squeamish to blood and guts horror, its why i've never watched any of the saw movies, why it took me a while to watch all through texas chainsaw, and why I can't even watch operations on screen on people or animals.
I love psychological horror, haunting horror, even monster themed horror, but excessive blood and violence just turns me off it (unless its so over the top its just funny)
Quote from: Munch on December 04, 2017, 08:01:52 PM
as for bone tomahawk, part of me wants to watch that, I often work to find good horror movies that will genuinely scare me, but I am still to this day squeamish to blood and guts horror,
You might want to pass on Bone Tomahawk.
Quote from: Sal1981 on December 04, 2017, 03:17:56 PM
You're lucky to even remember your dreams. I just lay down, and after I've woken up again, it's like I never went to bed apart from sorta rested.
That could happen if you're are dangerously exhausted. I have cat napped like that before.
I saw two actual operations, B&W medical films, in the late 1970s. One was open heart surgery, they worked on a woman, and got to her heart by cutting thru her back, temporarily removing a section of her rear ribs, so there weren't any scars on her front. I had no desire to be a surgeon after seeing that. Takes a special person to help in such a gross way. I don't think I could even stand being a dental hygienist. It is enough to help medical people help patients, I don't want to get any closer!
Quote from: Blackleaf on December 04, 2017, 01:06:19 PM
The t-rex was a reoccurring monster in my nightmares. One time I had I dream I was in this giant bunker-like room, and a dark-violent t-rex that was several stories tall was on the other side of the room. The rest of the room was virtually empty, so I had nowhere to hide. I can't remember what happened after that. In another dream, I was up in trees, and the t-rex from Jurassic Park kept poking its head out above the top of the tree line like it was looking for me. Eventually it did find me and the shock woke me up.
I've also had nightmares of a monster that can also see you if you see it, or if you swallow a pill that turned you into a lure (which my little sister swallowed without knowing what it was). There's an inescapable monster that always appears if I look outside a certain glass door when it's dark outside, and this one had super speed. There was a black cat with a long tail that always managed to be just out of view (the tail being the only thing I could catch a glimpse of) until it jumps me from behind. There's a mirror version of me, which I can sense nearby, and which follows my exact movements until it catches sight of me. This one is the one I've seen most recently, staring at me from the other side of my bedroom window.
Impressive dreams. Most people aren't good at remembering them. I wake up often at night and I remember too. For then. In the morning, they are mostly gone but for the last one, and the last ones are usually the most disorganized.
Quote from: Sal1981 on December 04, 2017, 03:17:56 PM
You're lucky to even remember your dreams. I just lay down, and after I've woken up again, it's like I never went to bed apart from sorta rested.
I toss and turn all night. I fall asleep after an hour (maybe). I wake up often. I had a friend who could deliberately fall asleep in almost any setting. In a chair, in front of an "on" TV, in the passenger seat of a car on a bum by road.
I hate people like you and him. Nothing personal, ;)
But the sleepless resent the sleepies...
I ONCE went to bed at 10pm and woke up at dawn and it was an AMAZING experience. I was actually confused and had to check the time and day on the news radio station!
Quote from: Cavebear on December 09, 2017, 05:05:11 AM
I toss and turn all night. I fall asleep after an hour (maybe). I wake up often. I had a friend who could deliberately fall asleep in almost any setting. In a chair, in front of an "on" TV, in the passenger seat of a car on a bum by road.
I hate people like you and him. Nothing personal, ;)
But the sleepless resent the sleepies...
I ONCE went to bed at 10pm and woke up at dawn and it was an AMAZING experience. I was actually confused and had to check the time and day on the news radio station!
I mostly sleep well, but when I don't ... similar things happen to me that happen to you. Just last night, I fell asleep taking a quick cat nap before posting more here, and woke up hours later. If it happens during an extended holiday, I don't know what day it is, have to check the computer.
Quote from: Baruch on December 09, 2017, 05:08:57 AM
I mostly sleep well, but when I don't ... similar things happen to me that happen to you. Just last night, I fell asleep taking a quick cat nap before posting more here, and woke up hours later. If it happens during an extended holiday, I don't know what day it is, have to check the computer.
I love the computer time clock and date. It adjusts for Daylight Saving Time and is never wrong.
Vas is los "cat nap"? We demand to know of it!
Quote from: Cavebear on December 09, 2017, 05:15:57 AM
I love the computer time clock and date. It adjusts for Daylight Saving Time and is never wrong.
Vas is los "cat nap"? We demand to know of it!
Ask your cats. Sometimes I just lay back from the computer, in my bed (computer in bedroom) just to recover some stamina ... and find that I am running on empty!
Quote from: Baruch on December 09, 2017, 05:33:41 AM
Ask your cats. Sometimes I just lay back from the computer, in my bed (computer in bedroom) just to recover some stamina ... and find that I am running on empty!
Mine tend to sleep all night long and stay up when I am up. OK, they're odd. Or even, not sure which. Let's see, 3 cats+me. Depends on whether I count.
That's your cue...