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Title: Meet the Most Armed Man in America
Post by: Hydra009 on November 15, 2017, 12:28:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWP7oXkDaDk

First off, this guy is really blase about guns.  I guess when you surround yourself with them constantly, you get pretty used to them.  But I got a real guns=toys vibe from him almost immediately which really didn't sit well with me.

And then there's talking about mass shootings with what almost seemed like admiration.

And then his wife's death and the manikins... :sad2:

Is this really what our Founders intended?
Title: Re: Meet the Most Armed Man in America
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on November 15, 2017, 12:30:29 PM
If you want to know what the founders thought a militia was, just watch or read "Drums Along the Mohawk." It wasn't about Joe Bearsneighbor having tanks.
Title: Re: Meet the Most Armed Man in America
Post by: Cavebear on November 15, 2017, 12:37:29 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on November 15, 2017, 12:30:29 PM
If you want to know what the founders thought a militia was, just watch or read "Drums Along the Mohawk." It wasn't about Joe Bearsneighbor having tanks.

Maybe we need a militia with arms (the 2nd amendment supports it), but this guy would have been kicked out as a crazy and therefore not allowed his guns...
Title: Re: Meet the Most Armed Man in America
Post by: Baruch on November 15, 2017, 06:57:00 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on November 15, 2017, 12:28:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWP7oXkDaDk

First off, this guy is really blase about guns.  I guess when you surround yourself with them constantly, you get pretty used to them.  But I got a real guns=toys vibe from him almost immediately which really didn't sit well with me.

And then there's talking about mass shootings with what almost seemed like admiration.

And then his wife's death and the manikins... :sad2:

Is this really what our Founders intended?

The Founders were English psychos from the English Civil Wars, who then got really feral in N America.
Title: Re: Meet the Most Armed Man in America
Post by: Baruch on November 15, 2017, 06:57:41 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on November 15, 2017, 12:30:29 PM
If you want to know what the founders thought a militia was, just watch or read "Drums Along the Mohawk." It wasn't about Joe Bearsneighbor having tanks.

Yep, kill more Natives.  And French.
Title: Re: Meet the Most Armed Man in America
Post by: Cavebear on November 18, 2017, 12:46:52 AM
Quote from: Baruch on November 15, 2017, 06:57:00 PM
The Founders were English psychos from the English Civil Wars, who then got really feral in N America.

The US Founders were English (as subject by definition), but they weren't psychos or from the English Civil Wars.  Most were landlords in the English model and had debts similar to the ones back in Jolly Olde England.  Land-rich but money-poor up to their eyebrows. 

When I attended University in the late 60s/early70s, The US Revolution was considered somewhat as a fight of the landlords to escape debt.  Since then, it has generally changed to general populace anger over middle-class taxation burdens.  Having studied both, I tend to think a bit of both but mostly taxation. 

You don't get an angry army of rich landlords...

Some were

Title: Re: Meet the Most Armed Man in America
Post by: Baruch on November 18, 2017, 02:25:26 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on November 18, 2017, 12:46:52 AM
The US Founders were English (as subject by definition), but they weren't psychos or from the English Civil Wars.  Most were landlords in the English model and had debts similar to the ones back in Jolly Olde England.  Land-rich but money-poor up to their eyebrows. 

When I attended University in the late 60s/early70s, The US Revolution was considered somewhat as a fight of the landlords to escape debt.  Since then, it has generally changed to general populace anger over middle-class taxation burdens.  Having studied both, I tend to think a bit of both but mostly taxation. 

You don't get an angry army of rich landlords...

Some were

You are clearly an apologist for King Charles I ... and King George III.  In the 1640s ... exiles from the English Civil War didn't get sent to Australia.
Title: Re: Meet the Most Armed Man in America
Post by: Cavebear on November 18, 2017, 03:02:14 AM
Quote from: Baruch on November 18, 2017, 02:25:26 AM
You are clearly an apologist for King Charles I ... and King George III.  In the 1640s ... exiles from the English Civil War didn't get sent to Australia.

No.  EOL
Title: Re: Meet the Most Armed Man in America
Post by: Baruch on November 18, 2017, 03:14:06 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on November 18, 2017, 03:02:14 AM
No.  EOL

OK, I accept your response.  So which historical faction are you working for?  Isn't this a Civ V game?