http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/31/us/new-york-shots-fired/index.html
Classless, heartless cowards :/.
Guinevere the hoe
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on November 01, 2017, 02:32:09 AM
Guinevere the hoe
Send him to a convent for the rest of his life?
luckily everyone I know is safe. unfortunately, this doesn't speak for the people that were hurt in this... my heart goes out to their families
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxI7GOHz-9M
I think he is disappointed that he has to wait for his 72 virgins a ittle bit longer.
Controlled opposition means, you don't know who the players are, even with a program. It not only confuses the opposition, it confuses the public to the point that democracy becomes pointless. So who sent this guy? Or did he just send himself? We will never know. Facts only, exclude interpretation, and without interpretation, voting is pointless.
Who sent him?
There are clear instruction in the Quran. He just followed those.
Quran 8:60
Who sent you?
Quote from: pr126 on November 01, 2017, 07:05:27 AM
Who sent him?
There are clear instruction in the Quran. He just followed those.
Simplistic and ideological. Do you think that Mein Kampf wrote Hitler?
I am waiting for Obama to tell us on CNN that this had nothing to do with The Religion of Peace and the perp is no true Scotsman.
We didn’t beat ISIS, it’s here (https://sultanknish.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/we-didnt-beat-isis-its-here.html)
It’s the ideology.
Quote from: pr126 on November 01, 2017, 08:08:44 AM
We didn’t beat ISIS, it’s here (https://sultanknish.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/we-didnt-beat-isis-its-here.html)
It’s the ideology.
And your ideology is transparent.
Quote from: pr126 on November 01, 2017, 07:56:36 AM
I am waiting for Obama to tell us on CNN that this had nothing to do with The Religion of Peace and the perp is no true Scotsman.
The latest hit ... in London ... terror or not?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/black-cab-ploughs-people-mounts-11449487
No true taxi cab?
Just read a FOX News article where even they say Islam can be used to justify the terrorism and just as easily it can be used to condemn it, and that it has more to do with interpretations rather than the text itself.
Pr, when even FOX News is more progressive thinking than you, you know you are swimming way out in the deep end.
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"I think tragedies like what happened in Vegas and New York City should be politicized... yeah, I said it... because politics is how society works to solve problems."
Quote from: Shiranu on November 01, 2017, 10:35:50 PM
Just read a FOX News article where even they say Islam can be used to justify the terrorism and just as easily it can be used to condemn it, and that it has more to do with interpretations rather than the text itself.
Pr, when even FOX News is more progressive thinking than you, you know you are swimming way out in the deep end.
When the Quranic text says
"kill them wherever you find them" it means just that.
I cannot interpret this as "hug them wherever you find them"
Maybe Fox News can do it in the name of political correctness.
But Fox news is no Islamic scholars.
As an exercise, would you care to "interpret" these verses?
BTW, there are the tafsirs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tafsir) which meant to explain precisely the meaning of each verse.
So there cannot be any ambiguity. Then there is the Sharia Laws to support it.
“We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.†(Qur’an 3:151)
“When your Lord inspired to the angels, ‘I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.'†(Qur’an 8:12)
“And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know, whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged.†(Qur’an 8:60)
And there is this: Quran 33:36
It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error.
FOX News... politically correct.
Lol. Okay. Next you're going to tell me Breitbart is liberal.
The problem isn't a scripture, or an interpretation of a scripture. It that people are violent predators. There needs to be more predation, more violence, not less ;-)
I will never be PC ... I will push the button and exterminate humanity, before I am PC. Good thing I like humanity.
“I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah’s Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah. (Bukhari 1.2.24)
#NOTHINGTODOWITHISLAM
So if they remove themselves from you and do not fight you and offer you peace, then Allah has not made for you a cause [for fighting] against them." (4:90)
"Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors" (2:190)
#GROWUPANDACTYOURAGE
Baruch wrote:QuoteThe problem isn't a scripture, or an interpretation of a scripture.
Are you saying that without this scripture (the Quran, hadiths) the carnage would be the same?
This question for the general audience:
If all religions are the same then why no other religions engage in global terrorism with the same intensity?
(https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/TROP.jpg)
Quote from: Shiranu on November 03, 2017, 02:05:40 AM
So if they remove themselves from you and do not fight you and offer you peace, then Allah has not made for you a cause [for fighting] against them." (4:90)
"Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors" (2:190)
#GROWUPANDACTYOURAGE
Islam claims that it is consistent, that no Hadith supersedes any Surah ... that is bullshit. Umar the Caliph, created Islam as we know it. He is coming for you too. Allah Akbar!
Constantine created Christianity as we know it. They also claim to be consistent ... that is bullshit. Constantine is coming for you too. Ave Caesar!
Quote from: pr126 on November 03, 2017, 02:37:13 AM
Baruch wrote:Are you saying that without this scripture (the Quran, hadiths) the carnage would be the same?
This question for the general audience:
If all religions are the same then why no other religions engage in global terrorism with the same intensity?
(https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/TROP.jpg)
Yes, it doesn't matter which feral human kills you ... they are all feral, including you and me. Religion doesn't matter, biology does. Kill all the ape men, now!
I disagree. You for one, do not go on a killing rampage.
If what you say is true, humanity would have exterminated itself long ago.
Or is that just a matter of time?
Quote from: pr126 on November 03, 2017, 03:11:21 AM
I disagree. You for one, do not go on a killing rampage.
If what you say is true, humanity would have exterminated itself long ago.
Or is that just a matter of time?
Predict the future much? All species eventually terminate.
Yes, I am being rhetorical, I wouldn't kill a cockroach (sometimes). Most of us get food indirectly ... we aren't farmers/ranchers. Most of our killing is indirect too ... plausible deniability. The German people were guilty, not just the Nazis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhdNG4tjOUs
"Blue light special in isle 3!" ... consumer war cry ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on November 03, 2017, 03:16:26 AM
Predict the future much? All species eventually terminate.
Yes, I am being rhetorical, I wouldn't kill a cockroach (sometimes). Most of us get food indirectly ... we aren't farmers/ranchers. Most of our killing is indirect too ... plausible deniability. The German people were guilty, not just the Nazis.
I never met a cockroach I didn't try to kill. Fortunately, that was 40 years ago in cheap crowded apartments and I do not have that problem now.
Did you ever hear the song " I Was Not A Nazi" polka?
(http://gatesofvienna.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/bracken-allahuakbarriers.jpg)
Quote from: pr126 on November 04, 2017, 12:35:35 AM
(http://gatesofvienna.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/bracken-allahuakbarriers.jpg)
And I'm not sure they help a lot now. There are always ways around them. Or attacks where they aren't.
Bolted. Barn door. Horse.
But how do you move them in a hurry for an emergency? For ambulance or fire trucks?
Quote from: pr126 on November 04, 2017, 12:49:18 AM
Bolted. Barn door. Horse.
But how do you move them in a hurry for an emergency? For ambulance or fire trucks?
My point was that barriers cannot prevent all attacks. Where they aren't, they invite attacks. And most places that are attacked have none.
We can protect some important places with barriers. But there is always "someplace else".
And finally, a trigger warning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcUi5_eNoqk
Quote from: pr126 on November 04, 2017, 01:52:39 AM
And finally, a trigger warning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcUi5_eNoqk
I suggest you identify the cartoon characters. I don't recognize any of them.
It's like 9/11 humour... It's both pretty funny and in horrible taste. The little musical skit is great though.
Quote from: Shiranu on November 04, 2017, 02:02:16 AM
It's like 9/11 humour... It's both pretty funny and in horrible taste. The little musical skit is great though.
But, who ARE those people?
Here is one. A dedicated SJW. All the characters are drawn after real people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilCmywMin8I
Quote from: pr126 on November 04, 2017, 02:07:30 AM
Here is one. A dedicated SJW. All the characters are drawn after real people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilCmywMin8I
No, that can't be me. He has WAY too much hair on his head.
Quote from: Cavebear on November 04, 2017, 02:04:56 AM
But, who ARE those people?
Hopefully just caricatures of the animators imagination. I shudder to think anyone is stupid enough to think that actually represents people on the left anymore than the rambling homeless guy who was abducted by aliens represents all men.
Quote from: Shiranu on November 04, 2017, 02:14:22 AM
Hopefully just caricatures of the animators imagination. I shudder to think anyone is stupid enough to think that actually represents people on the left anymore than the rambling homeless guy who was abducted by aliens represents all men.
Caricatures usually represent real people.
Quote from: Cavebear on November 04, 2017, 02:41:15 AM
Caricatures usually represent real people.
They may exist, but again... It's like assuming the one crazy homeless guy who claims to have been abducted by aliens and wears tin foil to protect himself from the government mind rays is representative of men or conservatives.
He only looks for the most crazy examples he can find, gets confirmation bias because crazy is what people bother to record and write about (how many news stories are about a regular guy going to work, coming home, watching a movie and going to sleep?), and then acts like these extreme outliers are representative of everyone in whatever group he wants to put them in.
Consistently coincidently, those groups always are what ever the en vogue group to hate or fear is. He never seems to hold the same standard to anyone else.
I'm sure that's pure coincidence though...
Quote from: Shiranu on November 04, 2017, 02:56:00 AM
They may exist, but again... It's like assuming the one crazy homeless guy who claims to have been abducted by aliens and wears tin foil to protect himself from the government mind rays is representative of men or conservatives.
He only looks for the most crazy examples he can find, gets confirmation bias because crazy is what people bother to record and write about (how many news stories are about a regular guy going to work, coming home, watching a movie and going to sleep?), and then acts like these extreme outliers are representative of everyone in whatever group he wants to put them in.
Consistently coincidently, those groups always are what ever the en vogue group to hate or fear is. He never seems to hold the same standard to anyone else.
I'm sure that's pure coincidence though...
So, the animated figures represented no one...
Quote from: Cavebear on November 04, 2017, 12:02:30 AM
I never met a cockroach I didn't try to kill. Fortunately, that was 40 years ago in cheap crowded apartments and I do not have that problem now.
Did you ever hear the song " I Was Not A Nazi" polka?
No ... but now I have. But I don't understand German too well. So you are also specie-ist? How un-liberal.
Quote from: Baruch on November 04, 2017, 10:53:32 AM
No ... but now I have. But I don't understand German too well. So you are also specie-ist? How un-liberal.
It wasn't in German.
Nothing I said involved "species".
I am not "Liberal"; I am "Progressive"; there is a difference. McGovern was a Liberal; Teddy Roosevelt was a Progressive.
Quote from: Cavebear on November 07, 2017, 04:52:25 AM
It wasn't in German.
Nothing I said involved "species".
I am not "Liberal"; I am "Progressive"; there is a difference. McGovern was a Liberal; Teddy Roosevelt was a Progressive.
The Youtube I caught, was in German, swinehundt! McGovern gave us 2nd term Nixon. Teddy gave us Taft.
Quote from: Baruch on November 07, 2017, 07:13:58 AM
The Youtube I caught, was in German, swinehundt! McGovern gave us 2nd term Nixon. Teddy gave us Taft.
No, the voters did. They prefferred Nixon over McGovern and Taft over T Roosevelt. I'm not saying that was right or not. Just that the voters chose.
Quote from: Cavebear on November 07, 2017, 08:16:05 AM
No, the voters did. They prefferred Nixon over McGovern and Taft over T Roosevelt. I'm not saying that was right or not. Just that the voters chose.
Teddy appointed Taft, thinking he was a Progressive. Taft betrayed Teddy. Teddy split the ticket in 1912 and that let Wilson win. So the voters participate, but they are just bit players.
As far as Nixon vs McGovern ... McGovern both self inflicted (Eagleton) and was inflicted (he was a war hero who was painted as a hippie). Nixon stole the 1972 election, had help from the usual suspects, but then got too cocky.
Quote from: Baruch on November 07, 2017, 08:03:39 PM
Teddy appointed Taft, thinking he was a Progressive. Taft betrayed Teddy. Teddy split the ticket in 1912 and that let Wilson win. So the voters participate, but they are just bit players.
As far as Nixon vs McGovern ... McGovern both self inflicted (Eagleton) and was inflicted (he was a war hero who was painted as a hippie). Nixon stole the 1972 election, had help from the usual suspects, but then got too cocky.
McGovern and Eagleton got a raw deal. Eagleton had a shock treatment recommended for war experiences (I think). Never affected him, but the stigma stayed. More proof the least little think can ruin a campaign but really bad things sometimes don't.
Flip a coin...
Quote from: Cavebear on November 11, 2017, 05:12:46 AM
McGovern and Eagleton got a raw deal. Eagleton had a shock treatment recommended for war experiences (I think). Never affected him, but the stigma stayed. More proof the least little think can ruin a campaign but really bad things sometimes don't.
Flip a coin...
The Howard Dean primal scream? And that Gary Hart .. what a maroon.
Quote from: Baruch on November 11, 2017, 02:22:22 PM
The Howard Dean primal scream? And that Gary Hart .. what a maroon.
Yee-HAH!
Quote from: Cavebear on November 11, 2017, 02:24:43 PM
Yee-HAH!
You didn't respond to the Gary Hart incident. Monkey Business much? D candidates just can't keep their pants zipped.
Quote from: Baruch on November 11, 2017, 02:28:58 PM
You didn't respond to the Gary Hart incident. Monkey Business much? D candidates just can't keep their pants zipped.
You know how in chess, you sometimes hope someone will make a particular move? I was waiting for "Hart". We Democrats dropped that asshole like a hot brick. And Republicans circle the wagons in the same situation.
You are never going to win in THAT ploy!
When it comes to sexual hypocrisy, Republicans go crazy defending their own twisting their heads up their asses but the Democrats say "we don't accept it when ours do it either". Bet you mention Bill next...
Quote from: Cavebear on November 15, 2017, 07:09:20 AM
You know how in chess, you sometimes hope someone will make a particular move? I was waiting for "Hart". We Democrats dropped that asshole like a hot brick. And Republicans circle the wagons in the same situation.
You are never going to win in THAT ploy!
When it comes to sexual hypocrisy, Republicans go crazy defending their own twisting their heads up their asses but the Democrats say "we don't accept it when ours do it either". Bet you mention Bill next...
Rs are uber-menschen, they can take what females they like. Ds are under-menschen, they get sand kicked in their faces by the uber-menschen. The problem with America isn't race, it is class. Race is the distraction.