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Title: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: trdsf on October 30, 2017, 12:11:35 PM
A Pennsylvania mom is going to jail for nowhere near enough time for beating the hell out of her daughter for getting bible verses wrong (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/mom-who-beat-girl-for-incorrect-bible-verses-gets-prison/ar-AAu89xr?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout).

Steven Weinberg is right: "With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil â€" that takes religion."
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Unbeliever on October 30, 2017, 01:10:56 PM
Damn, that's one scary looking woman! At least the kid won't have to put up with that shit any more - assuming her other relatives don't do the same king of bullshit.
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Blackleaf on October 30, 2017, 02:48:42 PM
Two and a half years for beating and threatening the life of a child. FML.
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: fencerider on October 31, 2017, 01:09:57 AM
Quote from: Blackleaf on October 30, 2017, 02:48:42 PM
Two and a half years for beating and threatening the life of a child. FML.

probably would have been longer if it was a Quran
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: fencerider on October 31, 2017, 01:12:39 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on October 30, 2017, 01:10:56 PM
Damn, that's one scary looking woman!

Shoulda sent that one to Iraq to fight ISIS
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Cavebear on October 31, 2017, 01:19:26 AM
Some people were just never suited to be parents.  They should have left some "parts" at the door when they got out of high school.  If the did get out of high school.
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Baruch on October 31, 2017, 06:40:33 AM
Humans need a bit of ego and arrogance to get thru the day.  Chutzpah.  But it is easy to misuse.  Hence inappropriate relationships, marriages and bad parenting.  Humans don't come with an instruction book (or does it) and it shows.  Not that men in particular would bother with an instruction book, or asking for directions ;-)
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Cavebear on October 31, 2017, 08:10:57 AM
Quote from: Baruch on October 31, 2017, 06:40:33 AM
Humans need a bit of ego and arrogance to get thru the day.  Chutzpah.  But it is easy to misuse.  Hence inappropriate relationships, marriages and bad parenting.  Humans don't come with an instruction book (or does it) and it shows.  Not that men in particular would bother with an instruction book, or asking for directions ;-)

I've never quite understood unjustified chutspah.  I come by mine honestly and with background.
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Baruch on October 31, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on October 31, 2017, 08:10:57 AM
I've never quite understood unjustified chutspah.  I come by mine honestly and with background.

Gentile terms are "brass" and "arrogance".  With "brass" at least you are dealing with real metal, but "arrogance" is just wooden nickels.  Very flammable.
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Cavebear on November 04, 2017, 12:15:18 AM
Quote from: Baruch on October 31, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
Gentile terms are "brass" and "arrogance".  With "brass" at least you are dealing with real metal, but "arrogance" is just wooden nickels.  Very flammable.

Consider a small wooden box designed to look as though it has a top that opens.  Even hinges on the back.  Now consider that it is not openable.  That is religion.
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Baruch on November 04, 2017, 09:57:37 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on November 04, 2017, 12:15:18 AM
Consider a small wooden box designed to look as though it has a top that opens.  Even hinges on the back.  Now consider that it is not openable.  That is religion.

That was creative ;-)  Inside that box are the lost souls of the clergy ;-(
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Cavebear on November 07, 2017, 03:02:40 AM
Quote from: Baruch on November 04, 2017, 09:57:37 AM
That was creative ;-)  Inside that box are the lost souls of the clergy ;-(

Thank you.  But you are arguing about the content of a solid box with no space inside it?  LOL!
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Baruch on November 07, 2017, 06:28:47 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on November 07, 2017, 03:02:40 AM
Thank you.  But you are arguing about the content of a solid box with no space inside it?  LOL!

Souls don't take up space, silly bear.
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Cavebear on November 07, 2017, 06:33:47 AM
Quote from: Baruch on November 07, 2017, 06:28:47 AM
Souls don't take up space, silly bear.

Souls being non-existent, I am not surprised they take up no space.  Hmmm, I wonder if I could market cheap blocks of wood calling them "Ancestor Soul Holders"?
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Baruch on November 07, 2017, 06:54:23 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on November 07, 2017, 06:33:47 AM
Souls being non-existent, I am not surprised they take up no space.  Hmmm, I wonder if I could market cheap blocks of wood calling them "Ancestor Soul Holders"?

Probably marked "made in China" because such things would be of Chinese origin.  Got ancestors?  Read Confucius.
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Cavebear on November 07, 2017, 08:39:52 AM
Quote from: Baruch on November 07, 2017, 06:54:23 AM
Probably marked "made in China" because such things would be of Chinese origin.  Got ancestors?  Read Confucius.

I'm proposing selling a block of US wood and you think it comes from China?
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Baruch on November 07, 2017, 01:15:07 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on November 07, 2017, 08:39:52 AM
I'm proposing selling a block of US wood and you think it comes from China?

Americans make nothing now, except bullshit.
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Cavebear on November 07, 2017, 02:17:28 PM
Quote from: Baruch on November 07, 2017, 01:15:07 PM
Americans make nothing now, except bullshit.

Actually, we are becoming a manufacturing country again.  We were post WW!!, it evened out in the 80/90s, and now wages have stabilized globally (with shipping costs factored in) so things are more balanced.  I saw that coming a decade ago and shifted part of my stock portfolio back to US manufacturers. 

Ya gotta keep on top of that kind of stuff.  My clue was when Toyota built a car factory here.
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: fencerider on November 11, 2017, 12:01:17 AM
Cavebear you would probably be a good hedgefund advisor, if I had any money to invest; which I don’t. Baruch is our historian specializing in Chutzpah and ancient religious practices. If I wanna know the price of google next year I’ll listen to Cavebear. If I wanna know who invented Moses and why I’ll listen to BaruchðŸ¤"
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Cavebear on November 11, 2017, 12:23:54 AM
Quote from: fencerider on November 11, 2017, 12:01:17 AM
Cavebear you would probably be a good hedgefund advisor, if I had any money to invest; which I don’t. Baruch is our historian specializing in Chutzpah and ancient religious practices. If I wanna know the price of google next year I’ll listen to Cavebear. If I wanna know who invented Moses and why I’ll listen to BaruchðŸ¤"

I use a 9 square investment.  Large Cap, Mid Cap, and Small Cap across the top of the grid.  Growth, Blend, and Value along the sides.  Buy equal amounts of index funds in each of the 9 squares, and balance them once every couple years, 

When the market falls, buy more.  When the market seems oddly high, sell some of everything and put it in 6 month CDs staggered by months .  Have that available for more index stock purchases when the market drops suddenly.  Cash in the CDs and invest in the index funds more again.  Very simple.

I hit millionaire status in liquid assets this year.
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Baruch on November 11, 2017, 02:06:09 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on November 11, 2017, 12:23:54 AM
I use a 9 square investment.  Large Cap, Mid Cap, and Small Cap across the top of the grid.  Growth, Blend, and Value along the sides.  Buy equal amounts of index funds in each of the 9 squares, and balance them once every couple years, 

When the market falls, buy more.  When the market seems oddly high, sell some of everything and put it in 6 month CDs staggered by months .  Have that available for more index stock purchases when the market drops suddenly.  Cash in the CDs and invest in the index funds more again.  Very simple.

I hit millionaire status in liquid assets this year.

A balanced portfolio works, if managed actively ... provided there are no black swans.  But you can't protect against those anyway.  Diversify, diversity.  And don't keep all your eggs in the same basket ;-)
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Cavebear on November 11, 2017, 05:54:24 AM
Quote from: Baruch on November 11, 2017, 02:06:09 AM
A balanced portfolio works, if managed actively ... provided there are no black swans.  But you can't protect against those anyway.  Diversify, diversity.  And don't keep all your eggs in the same basket ;-)

The 9 grid is the very definition of diversification.  You have growth, value, and a blend, in large, medium, and small capitalization indexes.  Plus I have one for the total S&P and one for non-us markets.

If any part goes up or down, there are the others.  And I have US Savings Bonds and Credit UNion CDs.  And bank savings accounts.  And a Federal inflation-adjusted annuity.  Unless WWIII happens, you couldn't kill me financially with an ax.
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Baruch on November 11, 2017, 10:25:40 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on November 11, 2017, 05:54:24 AM
The 9 grid is the very definition of diversification.  You have growth, value, and a blend, in large, medium, and small capitalization indexes.  Plus I have one for the total S&P and one for non-us markets.

If any part goes up or down, there are the others.  And I have US Savings Bonds and Credit UNion CDs.  And bank savings accounts.  And a Federal inflation-adjusted annuity.  Unless WWIII happens, you couldn't kill me financially with an ax.

I am sure Goldman Sachs will try.  Capital controls.  It will be deemed terrorist to be able to move or withdraw money from your investments.  A banking panic would only benefit "he who must not be named".
Title: Re: Yet another demonstration of 'christian love'.
Post by: Cavebear on November 11, 2017, 10:31:50 AM
Quote from: Baruch on November 07, 2017, 06:54:23 AM
Probably marked "made in China" because such things would be of Chinese origin.  Got ancestors?  Read Confucius.

Nah, they would be Made in USA.  I'm pretty sure even we could make blocks of wood.  The hinges might come from China, but they would be "assembled in the USA" meaning the label)  But they would probably be self-storing "smart blocks" and need an app to do nothing (as intended and designed) .