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Title: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Hydra009 on September 11, 2017, 09:46:00 PM
I freaking love this show.  Hands down my favorite animated show of all time.  Yes, even better than the one you're thinking of.

For those who don't know, here's Rick and Morty in a nutshell:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2pAYKJcG4g

The premise is simple:  a sociopathic, alcoholic genius scientist takes his naive, impressionable grandson on adventures across the universe (and multiverse).

The universe/multiverse is a deeply chaotic, horrible place where human values are meaningless and life has no inherent value.  These adventures inevitably damage your moral compass and place your life in serious jeopardy.  But you go anyway because there are mega fruit with mega seeds morty, AND I NEED THOSE MEGA SEEDS MORTY!

This show is a perfect mix of wacky hijinks, fart jokes, deep philosophical topics, and morality play (don't EVER be like Jerry, but also don't be too much like Rick)

Its serialized format makes for some very interesting worldbuilding and character development.  I bet 25 schmeckles that in the series finale
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Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Baruch on September 12, 2017, 01:28:16 AM
You got me hooked ... but isn't this Drew's theory?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQyvm6DSU28
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Mr.Obvious on September 12, 2017, 06:05:34 AM
Aw jeez Hydra... I-I think that it's... like it. Yeah, Hydra, oh my, I like it. I do. It's great, and stuff, it's, it's great. Yeah.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Sal1981 on September 12, 2017, 06:21:39 AM
I've watched all the episodes so far. Season 3 has really outdone themselves.

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Post by: Baruch on September 12, 2017, 07:20:32 AM
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I've watched all the episodes so far. Season 3 has really outdone themselves.

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I really didn't know much about it until last night, when the OP suggested it.  Now I have insomnia ... damn you!
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Hydra009 on September 12, 2017, 06:44:10 PM
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I've watched all the episodes so far. Season 3 has really outdone themselves.
The Rickshank Rickdemption really wowed me.  Then Vindicators 3: The Return of Worldender became my new favorite.  Now, it's The Ricklantis Mixup.  They just keep on putting out amazing episode after amazing episode.

And it wasn't always that way.  Season 1 was kinda hit and miss.  Season 2 was a noticeable improvement, but it had some issues.  Season 3 has been amazing so far.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Mr.Obvious on September 13, 2017, 04:07:41 AM
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The Rickshank Rickdemption really wowed me.  Then Vindicators 3: The Return of Worldender became my new favorite.  Now, it's The Ricklantis Mixup.  They just keep on putting out amazing episode after amazing episode.

And it wasn't always that way.  Season 1 was kinda hit and miss.  Season 2 was a noticeable improvement, but it had some issues.  Season 3 has been amazing so far.

Yeah, and what I find weird is that some people seem to think season 3 is the worst one so far.
Reasoning I've heard for it is that people feel let down that Rick isn't showing the heart he seemed to show at the end of season 2. And that Vindicators 3 is one of the worst episodes because they liked the idea of these characters and to see them thrown away, rather than becoming an actual Avenger's style team that comes in time and again in the show as regular characters is somehow a dissapointment.
But I think that's the entire point of the show. It's not about satisfying character-archs and building towards what we expect. I'd classify this show as an anti-show because it goes exactly against that and it works hard to make us trust it, to tug at our heartstrings, and then punch us hard in the stomach when we least expect it. Rick and Morty is hilarious, but it's not out there to work to give us what we think we want. It's out there to do it's own thing. And that's what I like about it. (Amongst a million other reasons.)
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Baruch on September 13, 2017, 06:57:42 AM
I watch it for pointers.  To be more like Rick and less like Morty ;-)
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Shiranu on September 13, 2017, 07:30:31 AM
The Ricklantis is not just one of the best, if not the best, R&M episode but also one of the best animated episodes of any series ever.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Mr.Obvious on September 13, 2017, 05:09:02 PM
https://youtu.be/LXsj_7n4aWY
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Unbeliever on September 13, 2017, 05:12:17 PM
I like Rick and Morty, but they'll have to wait until I finish binging on Soap.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Baruch on September 13, 2017, 06:25:13 PM
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I like Rick and Morty, but they'll have to wait until I finish binging on Soap.

You made Camus sad.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Hydra009 on September 13, 2017, 07:49:25 PM
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Yeah, and what I find weird is that some people seem to think season 3 is the worst one so far.
They must be from the Doofus Rick dimension.  :P

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Reasoning I've heard for it is that people feel let down that Rick isn't showing the heart he seemed to show at the end of season 2.
Hmm.  Possibly.  He's not a emotional wreck like he was in season 2, but I guarantee you some sort of emotional breakdown is definitely going to happen to Rick this season.

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And that Vindicators 3 is one of the worst episodes because they liked the idea of these characters and to see them thrown away, rather than becoming an actual Avenger's style team that comes in time and again in the show as regular characters is somehow a dissapointment.
Yeah, I would've liked them to stick around, too.  In fact, that's what I was expecting.  What I didn't expect was
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But I think that's the entire point of the show. It's not about satisfying character-archs and building towards what we expect. I'd classify this show as an anti-show because it goes exactly against that and it works hard to make us trust it, to tug at our heartstrings, and then punch us hard in the stomach when we least expect it.
It does zig-zag expectations and punches us in the gut when we expected a hug.  And while we don't get satisfying character-archs
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Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Hydra009 on September 13, 2017, 07:56:25 PM
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https://youtu.be/LXsj_7n4aWY
Wisecrack is always great at spotting the deeper meanings of the episodes.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Cavebear on September 14, 2017, 04:09:26 AM
I think the whole point may be that Rick is slowly wearing out.  None of his family is following in his footprints, he has destroyed all his similars in the other universes and Morty is slowly coming to realize Rick is too sick to be a role model.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Mr.Obvious on September 14, 2017, 04:12:15 AM
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They must be from the Doofus Rick dimension.  :P
Hmm.  Possibly.  He's not a emotional wreck like he was in season 2, but I guarantee you some sort of emotional breakdown is definitely going to happen to Rick this season.
Yeah, I would've liked them to stick around, too.  In fact, that's what I was expecting.  What I didn't expect was
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Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Cavebear on September 14, 2017, 04:18:44 AM
A Rick breakdown?  What a shock.  He does that every few episodes.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Hydra009 on September 14, 2017, 10:56:58 AM
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A Rick breakdown?  What a shock.  He does that every few episodes.
We've only really had two so far: when he tries to commit suicide and when he goes to jail.

He's been close to a breakdown a couple more times (alien parasites, the extremely stressful adventure that prompted a break from adventures) but he didn't completely blue-screen in those situations.

Rick has shown remarkable mental resilience considering all he's been through.  He's been through a lot of extremely difficult situations and not a whole lot phases him.  Usually, other characters have a breakdown before he does.

So while I'm not exactly going out on a limb, it's still a fairly infrequent thing.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Hydra009 on September 14, 2017, 11:06:48 AM
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Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Cavebear on September 14, 2017, 11:11:38 AM
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We've only really had two so far: when he tries to commit suicide and when he goes to jail.

He's been close to a breakdown a couple more times (alien parasites, the extremely stressful adventure that prompted a break from adventures) but he didn't completely blue-screen in those situations.

Rick has shown remarkable mental resilience, considering all he's been through.  He's been in a lot of extremely difficult situations and not a whole lot phases him.  Usually, other characters breakdown before he does.

So while I'm not exactly going out on a limb, it's still a fairly infrequent thing.

I am AMAZED!  I didn't actually think that Rick was psychoanayzable until now.  Just sort of a cross between an Angry Beaver and The Robot Chicken...

But you have me hooked...

Rick is the evil stepfather to Morty's Alice.  Rick drags Morty down the Rabbit hole every episode.  Rick is the insane Freddy Kruger of Morty's dreams.  He is the, well, you get it.

Rick is completely nuts, omnipotent, crazy as a loon, utterly rational in an idiotic universe, and as self-centered as only a deity could be.  He is both every fear and hope the child Morty could ever have (though pubescence does peek through at times.

Rick is the Id, Ego, and Superego minus the coordition of the brain hemispheres.

All at the same time...

Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Hydra009 on September 14, 2017, 11:20:36 AM
 :confused:  Did I really say anything all amazing?
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Cavebear on September 14, 2017, 11:23:54 AM
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:confused:  Did I really say anything all amazing?

One never knows what one starts, do one?

I love Rick and Morty (could do without the drool though)...

But you got me thinking, and isn't that what threads and comments are for? 
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Hydra009 on September 14, 2017, 11:43:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjDnuc0y1Gc

The part about this video that really cooked my noodle was this idea that these escapes from our soul-crushing corporate world (hiking, camping, going to the beach, etc) actually reinforce the system.

If modern life was brutal all the time, I'd hate it and do everything I could to try to find a way out.
But if I were allowed an occasional respite, I'd be more likely to grin and bear it.

In another thread, I talked before how I love nearby parks - being able to get away and temporarily immerse myself in the nature world.  But one side of the park was clear-cut to make room for new apartments.  This really bothered me because it utterly destroyed the illusion.  Instead of showcasing natural beauty, it showcased trash and industry.  I was forced to find another natural space to maintain my illusion of being in nature.

Now, is all this some nefarious ploy to ensure docile citizens?  Doubtful.  More likely, governments quickly discovered that preserving some natural spaces makes people happier and brings in a trickle of tourist dollars.  It's a win-win.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Hydra009 on September 14, 2017, 11:45:56 AM
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One never knows what one starts, do one?

I love Rick and Morty (could do without the drool though)...

But you got me thinking, and isn't that what threads and comments are for?
I thought you were sarcastically praising my insight and intentionally taking my attempts at analysis too far in order to mock me.  *sad Jerry face*
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Cavebear on September 14, 2017, 11:56:03 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjDnuc0y1Gc

The part about this video that really cooked my noodle was this idea that these escapes from our soul-crushing corporate world (hiking, camping, going to the beach, etc) actually reinforce the system.

If modern life was brutal all the time, I'd hate it and do everything I could to try to find a way out.
But if I were allowed an occasional respite, I'd be more likely to grin and bear it.

In another thread, I talked before how I love nearby parks - being able to get away and temporarily immerse myself in the nature world.  But one side of the park was clear-cut to make room for new apartments.  This really bothered me because it utterly destroyed the illusion.  Instead of showcasing natural beauty, it showcased trash and industry.  I was forced to find another natural space to maintain my illusion of being in nature.

Now, is all this some nefarious ploy to ensure docile citizens?  Doubtful.  More likely, governments quickly discovered that preserving some natural spaces makes people happier and brings in a trickle of tourist dollars.  It's a win-win.

OH CRAP!  I had to stop watching the video (since it showed no signs of ending).  But congrats, they have finally actually weirded ME out and my specialty reading is off-the-wall sci fi.  And I thought Nathan Brazil in Well World was far enough with all the different cultures...

I can't wait to watch more Rick and Morty...

Thank you!
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Baruch on September 14, 2017, 08:41:40 PM
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I am AMAZED!  I didn't actually think that Rick was psychoanayzable until now.  Just sort of a cross between an Angry Beaver and The Robot Chicken...

But you have me hooked...

Rick is the evil stepfather to Morty's Alice.  Rick drags Morty down the Rabbit hole every episode.  Rick is the insane Freddy Kruger of Morty's dreams.  He is the, well, you get it.

Rick is completely nuts, omnipotent, crazy as a loon, utterly rational in an idiotic universe, and as self-centered as only a deity could be.  He is both every fear and hope the child Morty could ever have (though pubescence does peek through at times.

Rick is the Id, Ego, and Superego minus the coordition of the brain hemispheres.

All at the same time...

Rick is my hero ... my new love.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Cavebear on September 19, 2017, 03:53:03 AM
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Rick is my hero ... my new love.

If Rick is your "new" love, than you don't actually know anything about him, do you?
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Baruch on September 19, 2017, 10:39:37 PM
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If Rick is your "new" love, than you don't actually know anything about him, do you?

I was implying that he is more attractive as an idol ... than you are (my prior love per Diedre).
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Hydra009 on September 19, 2017, 11:10:41 PM
The latest episode, Morty's Mind-Blowers, was a pretty average episode.  More of a mixed bag of clips than an actual show.

But after analyzing it a bit, it really kinda rubs me the wrong way.  This whole idea of memory-tampering seems like an especially horrible thing for Rick to be doing to Morty, plus Rick hasn't previously seemed to mind subjecting Morty to a bunch of extremely bad memories (that was even a plot point in Total Rickall), and if Rick is trying to groom Morty as his successor, then memory-tampering just damages his ability to learn from his adventures.

But man, this episode must be a delight for fanfic writers.  You can come up with any story - no matter how outlandish - and it works because the characters had their memories erased afterwards.

This was my favorite part:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1zBtJhgwBI

I once poured a perfectly level glass of milk, exactly to the rim with not a single drop going over the side.  It felt like heaven.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Cavebear on September 23, 2017, 04:12:30 AM
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I was implying that he is more attractive as an idol ... than you are (my prior love per Diedre).

Rick is an idol the way Freddy Krueger is a good dream.  Morty lives in a world of completely insane people.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Blackleaf on September 24, 2017, 09:58:55 PM
I just finished watching the first two seasons on Hulu, which I originally got for the purpose of watching Game of Thrones before realizing that it required an additional charge for HBO shows. Yeah, I'm definitely going to cancel before my one month free trial is over, but at least I got to watch this before discovering I could watch most of it for free at the Adult Swim website. Anyway, enough about how Hulu sucks balls, because Rick and Morty definitely doesn't suck balls. I absolutely love the show's blend of comedy, weirdness, and drama. I like how even though most episodes are self-contained, they continue to build the world around them and make subtle references to previous episodes. Every episode does something different, even spending virtually an entire episode watching the characters watch interdimensional TV, which sounds stupid on paper yet works somehow. Absolutely brilliant.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Shiranu on September 24, 2017, 10:33:17 PM
I wonder how many R&M fans realise that Saint Harmon & even Roilland are "Raging SJW Cucks", and have been for several projects now...

https://www.inverse.com/article/36696-rick-and-morty-season-3-female-writers-harassment-dan-harmon
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Post by: Blackleaf on September 24, 2017, 10:36:13 PM
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I wonder how many R&M fans realise that Saint Harmon & even Roilland are "Raging SJW Cucks", and have been for several projects now...

https://www.inverse.com/article/36696-rick-and-morty-season-3-female-writers-harassment-dan-harmon

I am aware. My sister also informed me that one of the important creative minds of the show was a devout Christian. Both facts seem a bit contradictory to the material they're responsible for creating...
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Hydra009 on September 24, 2017, 10:45:04 PM
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Rick and Morty definitely doesn't suck balls
You keep me peeling scrap squamps and slipping nib-nibs, and I'll suck whatever aint nailed down.  :P

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I like how even though most episodes are self-contained, they continue to build the world around them and make subtle references to previous episodes.
Almost every episode has little details that are homages to classic scifi movies, Gravity Falls references, or fan theory goodness (like the helmet Rick occasionally fiddles with in the garage)

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Every episode does something different, even spending virtually an entire episode watching the characters watch interdimensional TV, which sounds stupid on paper yet works somehow. Absolutely brilliant.
I could watch interdimensional TV all day long and never tire of it.

My personal favorite is Fake Doors.  It would be great if the exterior of the store was a bunch of doors and only one actually works.  You walk in and do a little browsing...and suddenly, there's a fire.  Which door was the entrance?  Do you even remember?
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Shiranu on September 24, 2017, 10:58:12 PM
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I am aware. My sister also informed me that one of the important creative minds of the show was a devout Christian. Both facts seem a bit contradictory to the material they're responsible for creating...

How so? Christians are allowed to have a sense of humour, and people who think women deserve to be treated like humans can poke fun of themselves as well.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Hydra009 on September 24, 2017, 11:02:33 PM
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Rick is an idol the way Freddy Krueger is a good dream.  Morty lives in a world of completely insane people.
Arguably, Jerry is now the only one in the family who doesn't have psychotic urges or some other severe mental dysfunction.  He's a bit sad and pathetic and mistake-prone, but his idea of a good time is ovenless brownies, which is nothing compared to what Rick, Morty, and Summer are into.  And despite being normally calm and rational, Beth's shown some troubling behavior from time to time, too.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Blackleaf on September 24, 2017, 11:34:01 PM
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How so? Christians are allowed to have a sense of humour, and people who think women deserve to be treated like humans can poke fun of themselves as well.

The show has dark and nihilistic undertones, bringing into question the value of life itself. And then there's also this:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPc_Jai2-ww[/youtube]
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Post by: Shiranu on September 25, 2017, 12:08:52 AM
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The show has dark and nihilistic undertones, bringing into question the value of life itself. And then there's also this:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPc_Jai2-ww[/youtube]

Again, nothing in the Bible says Christians cant have a sense of humour. I joke about some fucked up shit, doesn't mean I support that fucked up shit.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Baruch on September 25, 2017, 12:29:11 AM
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I wonder how many R&M fans realise that Saint Harmon & even Roilland are "Raging SJW Cucks", and have been for several projects now...

https://www.inverse.com/article/36696-rick-and-morty-season-3-female-writers-harassment-dan-harmon

Everything is politics with you?
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Jason78 on September 26, 2017, 01:58:50 AM
I'll just leave this here...
[youtube]https://youtu.be/4Js-XbNj6Tk?t=37[/youtube]
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Blackleaf on September 26, 2017, 11:03:20 AM
One thing I like about Rick and Morty is that it addresses one of the questions I've had about string theory for years. If there's a universe for every universe, no matter how improbable, what are the limits of that improbability? Is there a universe where every time someone walks outside, they get struck by lightning, and so humanity was forced to build underground roads and cities to avoid the wrath of the sky? Is there a universe where people compete to see how many bowling balls they could fit in one plastic bag before it rips, where the world record is 237? Is anything really impossible, or does each bowling ball in the bag just reduce the chances of the bag remaining in one piece to a smaller and smaller number, approaching but never touching zero? In Rick and Morty, you have a world where people evolved from corn, a universe where telepathic spiders are one of the dominant species on earth, and all kinds of crazy weird stuff. It appears in the show that when there are an infinite number of universes, nothing is impossible.
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Post by: Baruch on September 26, 2017, 01:07:16 PM
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One thing I like about Rick and Morty is that it addresses one of the questions I've had about string theory for years. If there's a universe for every universe, no matter how improbable, what are the limits of that improbability? Is there a universe where every time someone walks outside, they get struck by lightning, and so humanity was forced to build underground roads and cities to avoid the wrath of the sky? Is there a universe where people compete to see how many bowling balls they could fit in one plastic bag before it rips, where the world record is 237? Is anything really impossible, or does each bowling ball in the bag just reduce the chances of the bag remaining in one piece to a smaller and smaller number, approaching but never touching zero? In Rick and Morty, you have a world where people evolved from corn, a universe where telepathic spiders are one of the dominant species on earth, and all kinds of crazy weird stuff. It appears in the show that when there are an infinite number of universes, nothing is impossible.

This is why string theory hasn't developed more.  The telepathic spiders don't want it to, and the conspiracy squirrels kill anyone who fails to get the message.
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Post by: Unbeliever on September 26, 2017, 01:35:42 PM
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One thing I like about Rick and Morty is that it addresses one of the questions I've had about string theory for years. If there's a universe for every universe, no matter how improbable, what are the limits of that improbability? Is there a universe where every time someone walks outside, they get struck by lightning, and so humanity was forced to build underground roads and cities to avoid the wrath of the sky? Is there a universe where people compete to see how many bowling balls they could fit in one plastic bag before it rips, where the world record is 237? Is anything really impossible, or does each bowling ball in the bag just reduce the chances of the bag remaining in one piece to a smaller and smaller number, approaching but never touching zero? In Rick and Morty, you have a world where people evolved from corn, a universe where telepathic spiders are one of the dominant species on earth, and all kinds of crazy weird stuff. It appears in the show that when there are an infinite number of universes, nothing is impossible.
I've wondered the same thing. It seems to me that in an infinite multiverse even the laws of logic may be different in some universes. If that's the case then Katie bar the door! But just how robust are the laws of logic? Can there really be a universe where, for example, the law of non-contradiction doesn't hold? Is there really a universe where supernatural magic is the normal state of affairs?

It may be that the multiverse is able to generate, somewhere within itself, literally everything that can be conceived, and maybe things that can't even be conceived. What a cluster-fuck of an existence that would be! All those fictional characters we've read about in books might not really be fiction after all, but real people - out there somewhere.
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Post by: Baruch on September 26, 2017, 06:48:24 PM
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I've wondered the same thing. It seems to me that in an infinite multiverse even the laws of logic may be different in some universes. If that's the case then Katie bar the door! But just how robust are the laws of logic? Can there really be a universe where, for example, the law of non-contradiction doesn't hold? Is there really a universe where supernatural magic is the normal state of affairs?

It may be that the multiverse is able to generate, somewhere within itself, literally everything that can be conceived, and maybe things that can't even be conceived. What a cluster-fuck of an existence that would be! All those fictional characters we've read about in books might not really be fiction after all, but real people - out there somewhere.

There are posters here who deny the present reality of para-consistent logic.  You don't have to go to another universe.  BTW - reality in general, and consciousness in particular ... can't be conceived, at least by ape men.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Unbeliever on September 26, 2017, 07:27:36 PM
Well, none of us perceives reality in its fullness. We see what our evolution has prepared us to see, and nothing more. Science allows us to see a bit more, but we probably won't ever see reality the way it really  is.
Title: Re: Any Rick and Morty fans around here?
Post by: Hydra009 on September 26, 2017, 10:17:02 PM
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One thing I like about Rick and Morty is that it addresses one of the questions I've had about string theory for years. If there's a universe for every universe, no matter how improbable, what are the limits of that improbability? Is there a universe where every time someone walks outside, they get struck by lightning, and so humanity was forced to build underground roads and cities to avoid the wrath of the sky?
I got the impression that the universes in the central finite curve (whatever that is) have Earths that are very similar to our own with very similar Ricks and Mortys, but the further away from that you get, the more alien our Earth and its denizens become.

But alien worlds are almost always more different from our Earth than most alternate Earths.  So my headcanon is that the planets that are most different from Earth (strange plants/animals like megafruit, bizarre physical properties like a screaming sun) are almost always non-Earth planets.

And yes, theoretically there could be an alternate Earth with extreme lightning activity.  Or telepathic spiders.  But those are outliers - most Earths are more like our Earth than not like our Earth.  At least on a physical/biological level.  Culturally, there's more variation.
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Post by: Baruch on September 27, 2017, 12:09:09 AM
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Well, none of us perceives reality in its fullness. We see what our evolution has prepared us to see, and nothing more. Science allows us to see a bit more, but we probably won't ever see reality the way it really  is.

Reality as conceived by ape men?  Don't over think it.
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Post by: Cavebear on September 28, 2017, 02:24:19 AM
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Reality as conceived by ape men?  Don't over think it.

Technically speaking, there were never "ape men" but there were "manlike apes".  There is a difference.

But that has nothing to with R&M.  That show is wonderfully insane.  Though I do personally wish Rick would drool less.

None of the characters are the slightest bit sane.  Not even Morty.  If anything, his crazy family has driven HIM totally nuts. 

I remember when the standard character arrangement of any show, (animated or sitcom) was that one character was always the "sensible one".  I think that ended with "Married With Children.  They were ALL nuts.  And that was SO freeing... 
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Post by: Sal1981 on September 28, 2017, 06:10:05 AM
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Technically speaking, there were never "ape men" but there were "manlike apes".  There is a difference.

But that has nothing to with R&M.  That show is wonderfully insane.  Though I do personally wish Rick would drool less.

None of the characters are the slightest bit sane.  Not even Morty.  If anything, his crazy family has driven HIM totally nuts. 

I remember when the standard character arrangement of any show, (animated or sitcom) was that one character was always the "sensible one".  I think that ended with "Married With Children.  They were ALL nuts.  And that was SO freeing... 
Al Bundy often had little tid-bits of philosophical truths scattered about in the show, I watched it a lot, back in the day.
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Post by: Cavebear on September 28, 2017, 06:27:46 AM
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Al Bundy often had little tid-bits of philosophical truths scattered about in the show, I watched it a lot, back in the day.
Each of the M-W-C characters were occasionally allowed some words of wisdom.  But none were exactly role models. 

I remember my favorite scene there.  Kelly was famed for her basic stupidity.  But once when she had some friends over and a problem arose, they all said "Let's ask Kelly, she's the smart one"! 

I laughed so hard I almost gagged.  But it was a good reminder that almost anyone can have dumber friends...

I love you all, my friends...
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Post by: Blackleaf on September 28, 2017, 09:53:44 PM
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But it was a good reminder that almost anyone can have dumber friends...

I love you all, my friends...

(https://i.giphy.com/media/cFgb5p5e1My3K/giphy.webp)
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Post by: Hydra009 on September 28, 2017, 09:58:00 PM
ABCs of Beth

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Post by: Blackleaf on September 29, 2017, 04:05:31 PM
Co-creator of Rick and Morty, Dan Harmon, guest starred on a Film Theory episode today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY8-TUD3_Zo
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Post by: Cavebear on October 01, 2017, 07:08:12 AM
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Co-creator of Rick and Morty, Dan Harmon, guest starred on a Film Theory episode today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY8-TUD3_Zo

I saw the episode where Rick explains Beth's life to her.  Apparently she was a crazy version of Morty.  But they really did a number on us.

Rick explains that he could send Beth to the world she really wants and create a perfect clone of her to stay behind, all memories, etc...  Totally up to her.  And at the end, there is "a" Beth and we don't know which decision she made, do we?
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Post by: Baruch on October 01, 2017, 03:37:22 PM
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I saw the episode where Rick explains Beth's life to her.  Apparently she was a crazy version of Morty.  But they really did a number on us.

Rick explains that he could send Beth to the world she really wants and create a perfect clone of her to stay behind, all memories, etc...  Totally up to her.  And at the end, there is "a" Beth and we don't know which decision she made, do we?

Sexist?  As if men aren't crazy ...
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Post by: Blackleaf on October 01, 2017, 08:59:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBhhlE92mIQ

EDIT: Pretty much as soon as I posted that, I found the video where he revisited the elusive szechuan sauce, this time with an actual sample and original McDonald's ingredients list.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhc_bXGvmp0
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Post by: Hydra009 on October 01, 2017, 09:14:20 PM
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Rick explains that he could send Beth to the world she really wants and create a perfect clone of her to stay behind, all memories, etc...  Totally up to her.  And at the end, there is "a" Beth and we don't know which decision she made, do we?
It's left ambiguous, so we have no idea.  It could be her, it could not be her.  Hell, she could've taken off with Rick and Rick made a double of himself for all we know.

The last thing she did before making the decision was look at family photos on the fridge while sappy music played.  It's possible she prioritized family and stayed.  But that sappy music could've just been misdirection.

Given Beth's abandonment issues, it'd be hypocritical for her to bail.  But she idolizes Rick and came to the realization that she's a lot like him.  But maybe she realized that she differs from him in one important way - she squanches her family and sticks by them through and through.  She doesn't leave when it's convenient, like he did.
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Post by: Hydra009 on October 02, 2017, 11:48:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK7lICvUhCI

Turns out that Beth is (probably) the real deal.  Looking back, that episode had more of a preoccupation with time than the Doctor Strange movie.  It's almost like they were hints.

TL;DW: there wasn't enough time to clone Beth, so Beth is real.  Well, as real as one of infinite daughters can be.
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Post by: Cavebear on October 04, 2017, 03:39:42 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK7lICvUhCI

Turns out that Beth is (probably) the real deal.  Looking back, that episode had more of a preoccupation with time than the Doctor Strange movie.  It's almost like they were hints.

TL;DW: there wasn't enough time to clone Beth, so Beth is real.  Well, as real as one of infinite daughters can be.

Rick plays with time.  He could have come back at any time and cloned her.  Or not.  And repeatedly does and doesn't.  We can't know.
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Post by: Blackleaf on October 04, 2017, 03:55:00 PM
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Rick plays with time.  He could have come back at any time and cloned her.  Or not.  And repeatedly does and doesn't.  We can't know.

I don't think Rick has ever messed with time travel. When you have infinite universes, there isn't much point to time travel. You can just travel to a dimension that's exactly the same except in the ways that matter to you. You could even find an alternate timeline where your other self is already dead and you can take their place without anyone noticing. When it comes to Beth, I agree with the video. I don't think Beth is a clone. Then again, the writers have been known to fuck with their audience, like that time when...

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Post by: Blackleaf on October 04, 2017, 04:13:51 PM
Apparently, Mr. Poopybutthole's name is a reference to a proto-Rick from an earlier cartoon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcMFHRXp8xM
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Post by: Cavebear on October 04, 2017, 04:20:15 PM
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I don't think Rick has ever messed with time travel. When you have infinite universes, there isn't much point to time travel. You can just travel to a dimension that's exactly the same except in the ways that matter to you. You could even find an alternate timeline where your other self is already dead and you can take their place without anyone noticing. When it comes to Beth, I agree with the video. I don't think Beth is a clone. Then again, the writers have been known to fuck with their audience, like that time when...

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I think Rick does have a basic prime universe with Morty Prime.  And possibly Beth Prime.  Or Beth clone.  Summer might be able to know.  Summer might be the only real surviving character of Prime. 
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Post by: Sal1981 on October 07, 2017, 02:41:47 PM
Rick and Morty S03E10 - The Rickchurian Mortydate
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Post by: Hydra009 on October 07, 2017, 03:09:31 PM
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I don't think Rick has ever messed with time travel. When you have infinite universes, there isn't much point to time travel. You can just travel to a dimension that's exactly the same except in the ways that matter to you.
Yep.  Plus, time is policed by those weird meatball-shaped time cops.  And there are potential paradoxes and unintended outcomes.

Imo, it's not that Rick isn't able to time travel, it's that he chooses not to because it's more trouble than it's worth and more dangerous than dimensional travel.
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Post by: Baruch on October 07, 2017, 03:30:23 PM
Rick Morty S03E10 - awesome!  Obama finally is shown as he really is.  Only sci-fi sarcasm animation can tell it like it really is!
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Post by: Cavebear on October 08, 2017, 03:38:03 AM
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Rick Morty S03E10 - awesome!  Obama finally is shown as he really is.  Only sci-fi sarcasm animation can tell it like it really is!

You are one of a kind.  Thankfully.
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Post by: Baruch on October 08, 2017, 02:16:47 PM
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You are one of a kind.  Thankfully.

I am copywrited and trademarked ... so don't copy me ;-)
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Post by: Hydra009 on October 08, 2017, 03:42:18 PM
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Rick Morty S03E10 - awesome!  Obama finally is shown as he really is.  Only sci-fi sarcasm animation can tell it like it really is!
His appearance is modeled after Obama, but his personality is very different.  Hell, his personality is pretty different from his earlier appearance in Get Schwifty.

My theory is that this dimension, the USA is a much stronger superpower whose military adventurism has a much better track record.  There might never have been a Vietnam war or it ended very differently.  Hence the ability to run roughshod over Brazil's sovereign territory.  (Come to think of it, there isn't any character in R&M who's a hippy, is there?  There's Scary Mr Johnson, but he exists only in a dream)  Adapted Ricktech or alien tech from when the Federation left Earth might explain their advanced technology.
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Post by: Hydra009 on October 08, 2017, 04:30:48 PM
And before I forget, McDonald's did a szechuan sauce promotion yesterday.  But only some locations had the sauce, and they typically didn't get much (mine only got 18 sauce packets, which is typical).  I didn't get any.  Few people did.

Looking back on this bizarre want-it-need-it spell, I dunno if I'm super down with a commercial tie-in like this - I think it'd be better if they kept it generic than shilling individual brands.  But I'll overlook it because it was such a great punchline.  The idea that Rick went through hell and back all for that sauce is so damn absurd and funny that it's hard to be mad at it.
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Post by: Cavebear on October 08, 2017, 04:44:30 PM
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And before I forget, McDonald's did a szechuan sauce promotion yesterday.  But only some locations had the sauce, and they typically didn't get much (mine only got 18 sauce packets, which is typical).  I didn't get any.  Few people did.

Looking back on this bizarre want-it-need-it spell, I dunno if I'm super down with a commercial tie-in like this - I think it'd be better if they kept it generic than shilling individual brands.  But I'll overlook it because it was such a great punchline.  The idea that Rick went through hell and back all for that sauce is so damn absurd and funny that it's hard to be mad it at.

Well, McDonald's is more of a cultural icon than a shill.  There is air, water, and McDonald's, LOL!

And no, I haven't eaten there in years...
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Post by: Baruch on October 09, 2017, 05:53:11 PM
Sounds like you need some of that Szechuan Sauce!

Here is an explanation, that makes sense to me, as to why I like this show ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPJy0fGoaGc

I am definitely a Rick, maybe not the Rickest Rick however.
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Post by: Hydra009 on October 09, 2017, 07:37:51 PM
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I am definitely a Rick, maybe not the Rickest Rick however.
Good, because the Rickest Rick is pretty screwed up.  The Citadel-dwelling Ricks vary quite a bit: the Council and secret Council are pretty arrogant and sociopathic while Ricks low on the totem pole are a lot friendlier and trustworthy.  I'd have a drink or two with most of the guard Ricks, cop Ricks, and working stiff Ricks.

Everyone likes Rick and want to be like Rick, but imo what people really like about him are his devil-may-care attitude, near-omnipotence, and his freedom from responsibilities.  He can escape harsh realities in ways that most people can't.  But they don't really want to be like Rick - passed out on his workbench with a pile of ashes in front of him.

Plus, I dunno if many people could really handle the whole multiverse experience.

Just imagine landing on an Earth where slavery is still legal.  You'd want to do something about it, right?  Well, your well-intentioned actions will almost certainly have unintended negative consequences, like touching off WWIII.  As a nuke rockets to your city, you wisely flee to another dimension.  The next time you see something horrific, you look the other way and don't think about it.  You do a lot of not thinking about things.  It makes you callous and unempathetic.  Your values start to crumble over time and you eventually end up...well, a lot like Rick.
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Post by: Shiranu on October 09, 2017, 07:47:58 PM
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Everyone likes Rick and want to be like Rick...

I cant imagine anything worse than being like Rick.

Besides being like Jerry, because fuck Jerry.
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Post by: Hydra009 on October 09, 2017, 09:15:44 PM
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Besides being like Jerry, because fuck Jerry.
Jerry's pretty cowardly, lacks agency, imperceptive ("human music, I like it") and has poor judgement (R2D2 coins)

But he at least means well and genuinely cares for his family.  That's better than Rick most days.  So take your attitude to the men's section of Kmart and cut him some slack.......s. :P

I have a theory.  When Rick's out of the picture, Jerry flourishes.

Confirming evidence:
* He adjusted amazingly well during alien occupation and kept the family safe and sound while other people apparently lived in the sewers.
* He was a movie star in an alternate dimension.
* During the Rick potion apocalypse, he became an action hero.  Later, he became feral along with the rest of the family, but he was decisive and authoritative.  He did surprisingly well for himself considering the circumstances.

Disconfirming evidence:
* Jerry's depressing bachelor existence (Keevara was an impressive catch for him, but he poorly managed the relationship)
* Meeseeks fiasco
* Hungry For Apples (the best day of his life was when no one stomped on his dreams)
* Jerry Jamboree (though arguably, it's Rick's fault that place is so crappy)
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Post by: Baruch on October 10, 2017, 05:13:05 AM
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I cant imagine anything worse than being like Rick.

Besides being like Jerry, because fuck Jerry.

Somebody has to be a Morty.  You would be one of the tortured Morties on the Dome of Morties ;-(
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Post by: Hydra009 on October 10, 2017, 07:45:06 PM
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Somebody has to be a Morty.  You would be one of the tortured Morties on the Dome of Morties ;-(
Morty's great.  He's a very compassionate, conscientious kid.  And he shows signs of increasing intelligence and adaptability.  He's the Donna Noble to Rick's Doctor Who, even including the memory manipulation.

He's pretty easy-going and amiable, but he's also surprisingly vindictive.  "You like that?!  You want me to cut to three weeks earlier, when you were alive?"
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Post by: Shiranu on October 10, 2017, 08:09:53 PM
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Somebody has to be a Morty.  You would be one of the tortured Morties on the Dome of Morties ;-(

I would probably be a Morty, and I am okay with that. There are some pretty good Mortys out there.
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Post by: Hydra009 on October 10, 2017, 08:28:40 PM
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I would probably be a Morty, and I am okay with that. There are some pretty good Mortys out there.
Personally, I really liked Hammer Morty.
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Post by: Shiranu on October 10, 2017, 08:32:10 PM
This thread just made me discover this...

[youtube]ziTECs812Fc[/youtube]


Mushroom Pizza Morty...
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Post by: Baruch on October 10, 2017, 08:34:26 PM
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I would probably be a Morty, and I am okay with that. There are some pretty good Mortys out there.

Sorry, I don't see you as the Thunderdome Morty ...
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Post by: Hydra009 on October 10, 2017, 08:53:00 PM
Why Rick really wants the schezuan sauce:

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/41aecfe2cd04c4f7e10e86d156895fc5/tumblr_ox4nr241q61w2dsk7o1_500.png)
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Post by: Baruch on October 10, 2017, 09:36:46 PM
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Why Rick really wants the schezuan sauce:

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/41aecfe2cd04c4f7e10e86d156895fc5/tumblr_ox4nr241q61w2dsk7o1_500.png)

Yeah, wish I could have parts of my life back.
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Post by: Cavebear on October 11, 2017, 01:33:33 AM
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I have a theory.  When Rick's out of the picture, Jerry flourishes.

I think that is the best single sentence about Jerry I've ever read.  Rick basically ruins Jerry's life.
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Post by: Baruch on October 11, 2017, 07:36:04 AM
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I think that is the best single sentence about Jerry I've ever read.  Rick basically ruins Jerry's life.

Nobody has let me be a father-in-law yet ... but I keep hoping.  Usually the mother-in-law plays the villain ;-)
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Post by: Unbeliever on February 02, 2018, 08:18:14 PM

I just ran across this on youtube, thought y'all might enjoy it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsotfzGpby8
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Post by: Hydra009 on February 02, 2018, 10:23:59 PM
I just want to say that the R&M comics are glorious.  They're not always drawn super well, but they maintain enough of both the art style and writing of the TV show to be the next best thing to new episodes.

Here's a fairly representative sample:

(https://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/rm-625x244.png)
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Post by: Baruch on February 03, 2018, 12:21:03 AM
I am an existential nihilist ... like Kierkegaard.  So bite me.
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Post by: Blackleaf on February 03, 2018, 12:50:15 AM
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I am an existential nihilist ... like Kierkegaard.  So bite me.

I thought you considered nihilism to be "going full retard."
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Post by: Baruch on February 03, 2018, 01:01:23 AM
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I thought you considered nihilism to be "going full retard."

Which one?  I believe Unbeliever (snicker) claims to be of the Cosmic Type.  MikeCL is of the Existentialist Type (I think) ... that is why we get along.

The ultimate nihilism is that nihilism is meaningless ... but I don't know anyone willing to take that up ;-)
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Post by: Sal1981 on February 03, 2018, 10:11:50 AM
I think I identify best with cosmic nihilism.

I don't think there's anything inherently special about human brains, just that the configuration of human brains is such that we're able to have an (anthropic) Experience.
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Post by: Baruch on February 03, 2018, 05:46:50 PM
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I think I identify best with cosmic nihilism.

I don't think there's anything inherently special about human brains, just that the configuration of human brains is such that we're able to have an (anthropic) Experience.

But ... you would say that having a lobster experience is equally indifferent, to having a human experience?
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Post by: Sal1981 on February 06, 2018, 04:53:36 AM
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But ... you would say that having a lobster experience is equally indifferent, to having a human experience?
I'm not a lobster, so I wouldn't know.

(Nobody on the Internet knows you're a lobster)
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Post by: Baruch on February 06, 2018, 06:25:39 AM
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I'm not a lobster, so I wouldn't know.

(Nobody on the Internet knows you're a lobster)

Nobody can hear you scream, in outer space, or if you are lobster in boiling water.
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Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on February 06, 2018, 11:16:43 AM
I've watched a few episodes, but I'm not quite prepared to annoint it as the greatest animated series of all time. It's entertaining, but quite divorced from reality.
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Post by: Baruch on February 06, 2018, 12:35:10 PM
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I've watched a few episodes, but I'm not quite prepared to annoint it as the greatest animated series of all time. It's entertaining, but quite divorced from reality.

Rick Emperor - "Feel the cosmic nihilism!"
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Post by: Cavebear on February 06, 2018, 05:49:41 PM
Well, I wish Rick could drool a bit less...

Aside from that, I think Rick&Morty is one of the best morality plays around today and the complications are astounding.  I am thinking of the episode where Rick drags Morty through layers and layers of virtual reality escaping form captivity.

And I love it when they combine universes of Ricks and Mortys.  And don't forget that the current ones aren't the original ones.  They were killed...
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Post by: Hydra009 on February 06, 2018, 06:04:51 PM
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It's entertaining, but quite divorced from reality.
A dimension-hopping duo divorced from reality?  It'd be strange to expect otherwise.
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Post by: Baruch on February 06, 2018, 06:45:12 PM
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A dimension-hopping duo divorced from reality?  It'd be strange to expect otherwise.

Back in the 60s we had drugs, now we have animation and CGI video ;-)
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Post by: Cavebear on February 06, 2018, 10:42:38 PM
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A dimension-hopping duo divorced from reality?  It'd be strange to expect otherwise.

Yeah, not real.  Never suggested otherwise.  I don't have a problem compartmentalizing fiction from reality.  ;)