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Title: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: pr126 on September 08, 2017, 02:21:53 AM

ISIS tells its fanatics to poison food in Western supermarkets after testing the method on its prisoners in Iraq (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4858242/ISIS-tells-fanatics-poison-food-Western-supermarkets.html)
QuoteIslamic State leaders are reportedly asking its followers to carry out terror attacks by poisoning food in Western supermarkets.

ISIS fanatics could be targeting British and U.S. shops after the terror group perfected their methods using Iraqi prisoners as 'human guinea pigs'.

The details of the 'food poison tests' were uncovered in Mosul, Iraq, after the city was liberated from ISIS earlier this year.

t is now feared that the ways of contaminating food could be used on a larger scale in attacks on the West, according to the Italian news agency ANSA.

It would not be the first time ISIS followers have sought to spread terror and death by using everyday objects as weapons.

Fanatics? No! True believers, following the commands of Muhammad and Allah .

It doesn't matter.
We still love you and we want more of you to come and live with us. Please?

Inshallah.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2291601-exclusive-isis-plans-poisoning-open-markets-in-europe/

http://www.newsweek.com/isis-chemical-weapons-experiment-prisoners-613339

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1660902/isis-jihadist-has-published-a-guide-on-how-to-poison-westerners-on-encrypted-mobile-app/

Europe - assisted suicide. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydPZRoLzu-E)



Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Munch on September 08, 2017, 02:50:27 AM
Scary prospects, it's easily doable, someone injecting poison into everyday products in the blink of an eye, most stores don't have security these days other then security cameras, and by then it be to late to stop someone buying a tainted product
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Sal1981 on September 08, 2017, 05:29:30 AM
Where in the Qur'an does it say to poison your enemies food?
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: pr126 on September 08, 2017, 08:20:22 AM
Quote from: Sal1981 on September 08, 2017, 05:29:30 AM
Where in the Qur'an does it say to poison your enemies food?
Same place where it says "run them down with trucks or cars".

Yusuf Ali: But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. Quran 9:5

“Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.”  Quran 8,60

There are a few more.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Baruch on September 08, 2017, 01:04:28 PM
Happened with Tylenol in Chicago ... decades ago.  Serial killer or murderer plus copycats.  So were those Muslims too?

Yeah, just have them eat at Cow Palace .. that was a hamburger joint in my town back in HS.  They didn't let anything go to waste ... if the patty fell on the floor, they had a one-minute rule to cover it.  Too bad the health department closed them down.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Unbeliever on September 08, 2017, 02:01:23 PM
Wow, ISIS poisoning food, Al Qaeda starting wildfires - what'll they think of next? If I were them I'd try to cause the eruption of the Yellowstone caldera. That'd really do it for the U.S.!
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Baruch on September 08, 2017, 07:17:41 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 08, 2017, 02:01:23 PM
Wow, ISIS poisoning food, Al Qaeda starting wildfires - what'll they think of next? If I were them I'd try to cause the eruption of the Yellowstone caldera. That'd really do it for the U.S.!

Don't give them ideas!  Oops, Kim Jong Un and the CIA already know that.  They just don't have their NorK/CIA bunkers ready yet.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on September 09, 2017, 04:01:44 AM
Still up to your usual 'try to scare the shit out of everyone via MOOZLIMS! I see..
You really need to move to an uninhabited island where there are no MOOZLIMS!
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Shiranu on September 09, 2017, 04:06:55 AM
Quote from: pr126 on September 08, 2017, 02:21:53 AM
ISIS tells its fanatics to poison food in Western supermarkets after testing the method on its prisoners in Iraq (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4858242/ISIS-tells-fanatics-poison-food-Western-supermarkets.html)
Fanatics? No! True believers, following the commands of Muhammad and Allah .

It doesn't matter.
We still love you and we want more of you to come and live with us. Please?

Inshallah.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2291601-exclusive-isis-plans-poisoning-open-markets-in-europe/

http://www.newsweek.com/isis-chemical-weapons-experiment-prisoners-613339

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1660902/isis-jihadist-has-published-a-guide-on-how-to-poison-westerners-on-encrypted-mobile-app/

Europe - assisted suicide. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydPZRoLzu-E)





Cool. Let's give ideas and fears about something that's not even happening to people who wish us harm, be they foreign or domestic. Brilliant.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: pr126 on September 09, 2017, 05:08:58 AM

Shiranu wrote:
QuoteCool. Let's give ideas and fears about something that's not even happening to people who wish us harm, be they foreign or domestic. Brilliant.
I know that you are trying to defend the indefensible.

But shit happens. Literally.

Shop-owners sold chocolate cake sprinkled with human faeces  (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-513621/Shop-owners-sold-chocolate-cake-sprinkled-human-faeces.html)

Algerian who was jailed for spraying food with faeces and urine still can't be deported despite £250,000 legal battle to kick him out (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4658478/Algerian-sprayed-food-faeces-not-deported.html)

Go on, tell me that the news source has made it all up, this never happened.


Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Shiranu on September 09, 2017, 05:20:20 AM
Cool, you found the two people with scary names who did it, therefor there is a concentrated attack coming any day now from the big scary that they are clearly affiliated with because, well... their brown and have brown names, so therefor they must be in cahoots!...

https://www.fda.gov/ICECI/CriminalInvestigations/ucm209740.htm

http://www.capecodtimes.com/news/20170623/sheriffs-office-investigates-report-of-tainted-jail-food

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fast-food-burger-menstrual-blood_us_588656eae4b0e3a7356aed62

http://www.freep.com/story/news/2016/05/03/fbi-grocery-bandit-caught-sprayed-mice-poison-food/83894146/

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/09/21/442335132/peanut-exec-gets-28-years-in-prison-for-deadly-salmonella-outbreak

Scary stuff. I bet you the KKK is planning all of this, or the Neo-Nazis, because that picture of the guy was white and his name was like... Christsen or something... and that is a logical conclusion!!!

Give me a break.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: pr126 on September 09, 2017, 05:35:01 AM
LOL. OK, where would you like the break administered?

Trigger warning! Beware of microaggression. Is there a safe space near you?


Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 09, 2017, 07:49:40 AM
Quote from: pr126 on September 08, 2017, 02:21:53 AM
ISIS tells its fanatics to poison food in Western supermarkets after testing the method on its prisoners in Iraq (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4858242/ISIS-tells-fanatics-poison-food-Western-supermarkets.html)
Fanatics? No! True believers, following the commands of Muhammad and Allah .

It doesn't matter.
We still love you and we want more of you to come and live with us. Please?

Inshallah.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2291601-exclusive-isis-plans-poisoning-open-markets-in-europe/

http://www.newsweek.com/isis-chemical-weapons-experiment-prisoners-613339

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1660902/isis-jihadist-has-published-a-guide-on-how-to-poison-westerners-on-encrypted-mobile-app/

Europe - assisted suicide. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydPZRoLzu-E)




Ah, today's FUD. Thanks.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Unbeliever on September 09, 2017, 09:43:29 AM
Actually, corporations already poison our food just fine - we don't need terrorists to do it.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 09, 2017, 09:48:47 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 09, 2017, 09:43:29 AM
Actually, corporations already poison our food just fine - we don't need terrorists to do it.
I used to poison our food regularly.

Now my wife doesn't ask me to cook. Win.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Baruch on September 09, 2017, 10:42:33 AM
Quote from: pr126 on September 09, 2017, 05:08:58 AM
Shiranu wrote:I know that you are trying to defend the indefensible.

But shit happens. Literally.

Shop-owners sold chocolate cake sprinkled with human faeces  (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-513621/Shop-owners-sold-chocolate-cake-sprinkled-human-faeces.html)

Algerian who was jailed for spraying food with faeces and urine still can't be deported despite £250,000 legal battle to kick him out (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4658478/Algerian-sprayed-food-faeces-not-deported.html)

Go on, tell me that the news source has made it all up, this never happened.

1. Not all Muslims do that

2. Some Brits like a little shit on their cakes
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Baruch on September 09, 2017, 10:43:39 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 08, 2017, 02:01:23 PM
Wow, ISIS poisoning food, Al Qaeda starting wildfires - what'll they think of next? If I were them I'd try to cause the eruption of the Yellowstone caldera. That'd really do it for the U.S.!

Put each American in an isolation tank, and regress them ... but only back to 1960 ... please!
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: pr126 on September 09, 2017, 11:02:01 AM
Baruch wrote
Quote1. Not all Muslims do that
Yes, that is correct. No one has claimed so.

Should there be a mandatory disclaimer for all postings for this type?

Here it is:
#NOTALLMUSLIMS

Just like in the 1940s, #NOTALLGERMANS, AND #NOTALLJAPANESE

Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 09, 2017, 11:36:53 AM
Making fewer sweeping generalizations would be the starting point.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Munch on September 09, 2017, 12:38:36 PM
As I understand it, this is something Isis members planned on doing. To say this is a generalization of all Muslims is dodging the issue, since isis is an islamic oriented group, the same as other extremist groups are based on religious practices.

Calling out the evils of a group like Isis isn't making a generalization to an entire race, its making a clear matter of fact there is nothing good coming from that terror group.   
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: pr126 on September 09, 2017, 01:58:46 PM
 'THEY'RE BARBARIANS' Edinburgh student who mocked Isis on social media investigated by uni bosses for putting ‘minority students at risk’ (https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/1517273/edinburgh-student-mocked-isis-investigated-by-university/)

QuoteThe 21-year-old law student wrote a Facebook post after the US Air Force bombed an ISIS stronghold in Afghanistan in April.

He said: “I’m glad we could bring these barbarians a step closer to collecting their 72 virgins.”

But his comments sparked a complaint by fellow student Esme Allman, who accused him of “blatant Islamophobia”.

The history student also said he “put minority students at risk and in a state of panic”.

Robbie dismissed the claims to The Times and said the complaint was retaliation for him highlighting her calling black men “trash” while she was the leader of an ethnic minority student group.

He wrote on Facebook last night: “Afraid I’ve been a little more quiet as I have been accused of Islamophobia because I mocked Isis, and I’m being investigated on such a ground by my University.
Which is odd, because the politicians say that ISIS is not Islamic, they have nothing to do with Islam, yada yada.
Also those "ethnic minority students" - (are they even Muslims?) do they sympathize with ISIS?  Why are they in a state of panic?

I am confused.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwp8qKvE-0g

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-london-attack-islamic-terrorism-wrong-westminster-bridge-prime-minister-commons-a7645626.html

Theresa May, PM:
Quote“I absolutely agree, and it is wrong to describe this as ‘Islamic terrorism’,” she said.

“It is ‘Islamist terrorism’, it is a perversion of a great faith.”

There you are. Nothing to do with Islam. Glad this is cleared up.
 







Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Baruch on September 09, 2017, 03:33:48 PM
Quote from: Munch on September 09, 2017, 12:38:36 PM
As I understand it, this is something Isis members planned on doing. To say this is a generalization of all Muslims is dodging the issue, since isis is an islamic oriented group, the same as other extremist groups are based on religious practices.

Calling out the evils of a group like Isis isn't making a generalization to an entire race, its making a clear matter of fact there is nothing good coming from that terror group.

Does anything good come from terrorism?  Yes - according to CIA

ISIS isn't Islamic?  Not when it is CIA sponsored, just like others like it, and its major predecessor that we can all remember on Monday.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Munch on September 09, 2017, 06:44:42 PM
Saying Isis isn't islamic is like saying water isn't wet. It's very foundation comes from religious dogma
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Shiranu on September 09, 2017, 08:44:31 PM
Quote from: Munch on September 09, 2017, 06:44:42 PM
Saying Isis isn't islamic is like saying water isn't wet. It's very foundation comes from religious dogma

And I agree with that, so long as you are also willing to concede that the vast majority of Muslims who are peaceful are also Islamic since their very foundation of the peaceful beliefs come from Islam by their own admission.

The problem is we want to say the violent and bigoted side we have a (rightful) agenda against is Islamic, but then when it comes to the peaceful, the charity heavy, the side that is frankly better than the average Christian or atheist we refuse to acknowledge that this goodness is also influenced by Islamic text, or even worse claim that Islam had nothing to do with it, therefor telling people that they don't actually know what they think and that we have a better understanding of their life, culture, and brain than they do.

The other problem is that we will only focus on the terrible few, while ignoring the average to wunderful many. I suppose my problem with pr actually does have far less to do with Islam, and more just his fascination with the hateful and the fearful. As I have said before, he is a coward who wants everyone to be cowardly like him, and it's a shame to see that mindset spread across the forum and across society as a whole because nothing good has ever come from it.

Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: pr126 on September 09, 2017, 11:20:17 PM
@ Shiranu
May I remind you that the charity (zakat) in Islam is only for Muslims. Kuffar cannot benefit from it.
Christian charity is for anyone needy, irrespective of their religion, not just for Christians.

One more thing, the peaceful (Medinan) verses have been abrogated, superseded by later (Mekkan) more violent verses as  Allah  Muhammad has changed his mind.

If Muslims are "peaceful" it is in spite of Islam, not because of it.

“Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of God with their goods and their persons. God hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath God promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward” â€" Quran 4:95   


Coward?
How about Islamophobe, bigoted, racist, fascist, literally Hitler? You are too kind.

How would bravery manifest itself then?
By lying how wonderful Islam is and how peaceful Muslims are?

Indeed, the cowards keep on about Hurricane Irma while never mentioning all the good weather at all.
Strange that.

Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Shiranu on September 10, 2017, 12:12:54 AM
QuoteMay I remind you that the charity (zakat) in Islam is only for Muslims. Kuffar cannot benefit from it.

That's nice. May I also remind you that out of all religious groups, Muslims donate the most money per capita by far to charity, and many of those charities are cancer/heart/etc. (stereotypical health research charity groups) that don't benefit or exclude any group, while atheists make up the dead last in contribution?

Even if they aren't suppose to, which isn't Qu'ran-ically true, Muslims STILL do more because of their faith in terms of charity than atheists do out of our supposed, "We care more about humans because we have no religion!" sthick.

May I remind you of the Mosques in Houston that have opened their doors to everyone while the city sits under water, while big name Christians had to be arm twisted into helping the needy?

Strange that.

QuoteIf Muslims are "peaceful" it is in spite of Islam, not because of it.

And here we go... you are saying that you know what millions upon millions of people are "really" thinking, and that they couldn't possibly have a grasp on their own mind's better than you, because their reasoning doesn't match up with your notions of how they think.

That's is what's so annoying about you. It would be one thing if you were at least right... assholes who are right at least have that "cool" factor going on... but assholes who are wrong are just obnoxious.

QuoteCoward?

Yes. Chicken. Craven. Yellow Bellied. Gutless. Fraidy Cat.

QuoteHow would bravery manifest itself then?

Not acting like the end of Western civilization as we know it is going to be brought on by 6% of the population would be a step in the right direction.

QuoteIndeed, the cowards keep on about Hurricane Irma while never mentioning all the good weather at all.

You might actually be fucking retarded.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: pr126 on September 10, 2017, 12:16:27 AM
Thank you for those kind words, Shiranu.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Shiranu on September 10, 2017, 12:42:11 AM
Quote from: pr126 on September 10, 2017, 12:16:27 AM
Thank you for those kind words, Shiranu.

No problem.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Baruch on September 10, 2017, 01:49:55 AM
Quote from: Munch on September 09, 2017, 06:44:42 PM
Saying Isis isn't islamic is like saying water isn't wet. It's very foundation comes from religious dogma

Which religion?  That Muslim nut cases should be America's bitch?  MK Ultra writ large?  We did that, with the help of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, to the USSR, in its ill fated adventure in Afghanistan.  Couldn't happen to better people (any of them, not just the Soviets).  But America isn't virtuous, just the home team I root for.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Baruch on September 10, 2017, 01:53:18 AM
"Christian charity is for anyone needy, irrespective of their religion, not just for Christians."

History says this is how pre-Constantine Christians beat out the pre-Constantine Rabbinic Jews.  Both were charitable, but Jews focussed on their own (efficiency you know).  But then the anti-Semitism of those times was horrendous too.  Christians learned charity from Jews ... but being Gentiles, they had a bigger audience to work with.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: pr126 on September 10, 2017, 02:21:24 AM
Quote from: Baruch on September 10, 2017, 01:53:18 AM
"Christian charity is for anyone needy, irrespective of their religion, not just for Christians."

History says this is how pre-Constantine Christians beat out the pre-Constantine Rabbinic Jews.  Both were charitable, but Jews focussed on their own (efficiency you know).  But then the anti-Semitism of those times was horrendous too.  Christians learned charity from Jews ... but being Gentiles, they had a bigger audience to work with.

That does not negate the fact that zakat is for Muslim recipients only.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Munch on September 10, 2017, 04:01:29 AM
Quote from: Baruch on September 10, 2017, 01:49:55 AM
Which religion?  That Muslim nut cases should be America's bitch?  MK Ultra writ large?  We did that, with the help of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, to the USSR, in its ill fated adventure in Afghanistan.  Couldn't happen to better people (any of them, not just the Soviets).  But America isn't virtuous, just the home team I root for.

It's a case that those terrorist groups like Isis form from the background of how people in the middle east are raised in a theocracy that teaches them to hate the outsider to their beliefs, but even if they are not part of a group like that, the kind of violence that people migrating to other countries bring with them has to come from something, culture, belief, upbringing, why we read daily reports from places like Sweden of migrant fighting age men attacking people there, forming small groups that walk the streets at night.

These people aren't integrating, their bringing an aggression with them, and looking at history of migration, there weren't daily reports of Chinese migrants in America attacking Americans, or Mexicans doing the same.

There is a lot to be said about a culture of people and how they behave when moving to a new environment
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: pr126 on September 10, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
@ Munch

According to the left, all cultures are equal, but western culture is the worst.
To the American atheist, all religions are equal but Christianity is the worst.

Don't argue, or you will be branded a racist and a bigot.



Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Munch on September 10, 2017, 06:46:29 AM
Quote from: pr126 on September 10, 2017, 05:34:27 AM
@ Munch

According to the left, all cultures are equal, but western culture is the worst.
To the American atheist, all religions are equal but Christianity is the worst.

Don't argue, or you will be branded a racist and a bigot.

oh yeah I forgot, but then I am white british, so I am the worst of them all.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: pr126 on September 10, 2017, 06:53:46 AM
Some more badthink from me:
What the hell, I don’t care. Watch.


https://youtu.be/CyuDRlbfVdU
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Munch on September 10, 2017, 07:14:55 AM
To be PC you need to give up your culture for someone elses, and admit your a filthy white person with to much privilege.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: pr126 on September 10, 2017, 08:21:30 AM
Would someone please explain what white privilege means?
Does privilege come with the amount of melanin content of ones skin?
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Munch on September 10, 2017, 08:45:39 AM
Quote from: pr126 on September 10, 2017, 08:21:30 AM
Would someone please explain what white privilege means?
Does privilege come with the amount of melanin content of ones skin?

Well see white people, especially the men, are the master race. All other races are minorities, even in other countries where their the majority, and because we're white, we're never poor, always have everything given to us, and for that reason we need to give all the privileges we're born with to other races, since we're all born with a silver spoon in our mouths.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Shiranu on September 10, 2017, 08:52:15 AM
(https://img.digitaldjpool.com/im/6/4/8/2/d/d/6482dd89-bd81-4893-b9c1-1c4232b76b81.jpg)

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/012/113/join_in_the_internet_circle_jerk_print-ra11ce31c7e7d40d78d37d8a5a1e777f5_zod_400.jpg)

In hindsight, the "pity party" reference might be too obscure and make that combination of pictures really awkward with out getting the reference... but that's okay.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Mike Cl on September 10, 2017, 08:54:29 AM
Quote from: Baruch on September 10, 2017, 01:53:18 AM
"Christian charity is for anyone needy, irrespective of their religion, not just for Christians."

History says this is how pre-Constantine Christians beat out the pre-Constantine Rabbinic Jews.  Both were charitable, but Jews focussed on their own (efficiency you know).  But then the anti-Semitism of those times was horrendous too.  Christians learned charity from Jews ... but being Gentiles, they had a bigger audience to work with.
Didn't christians learn everything from Jews?  If not, what did christians learn on their own?
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 10, 2017, 09:05:30 AM
Quote from: pr126 on September 10, 2017, 06:53:46 AM
Some more badthink from me:
What the hell, I don’t care. Watch.


https://youtu.be/CyuDRlbfVdU
Goebbels would be proud.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Baruch on September 10, 2017, 09:44:43 AM
Quote from: Munch on September 10, 2017, 04:01:29 AM
It's a case that those terrorist groups like Isis form from the background of how people in the middle east are raised in a theocracy that teaches them to hate the outsider to their beliefs, but even if they are not part of a group like that, the kind of violence that people migrating to other countries bring with them has to come from something, culture, belief, upbringing, why we read daily reports from places like Sweden of migrant fighting age men attacking people there, forming small groups that walk the streets at night.

These people aren't integrating, their bringing an aggression with them, and looking at history of migration, there weren't daily reports of Chinese migrants in America attacking Americans, or Mexicans doing the same.

There is a lot to be said about a culture of people and how they behave when moving to a new environment

Our Mexicans are too busy working their asses off.  Good people ... if they don't learn English because they are only guest workers ... fine.  If they are staying then expect that since America is more of an open society, their children (thanks to public school) will be bilingual or English only.  I doubt my own ancestors learned English good, in the immigrant generation.  I would encourage bilingual myself.  There are bad people from Mexico and Central America ... hopefully the police can keep up.  It is just crime, not invasion (until we get political).  Maybe we can give California back ... but we are keeping Texas ;-)
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Baruch on September 10, 2017, 09:50:11 AM
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 10, 2017, 08:54:29 AM
Didn't christians learn everything from Jews?  If not, what did christians learn on their own?

They learned much from Jews, because they were, early on, Jews.  But not rabbinic Jews (pro Persian party) but hellenistic Jews (pro Roman party).  And theology was much more diverse then than it became later (do what I say because I am a rabbi).  But it was free, and therefore a threat to the State.  Rabbinic Jews learned to not be a threat to the State by 200 BCE.  Christianity by then was Gentile, with Jewish roots.  Then along came Constantine, and Christianity was tamed by the State, no longer a threat to anyone (except enemies of the State).  Christianity didn't become free again until well into the Reformation (Independents, not Lutheran, not Anglican).  It is from the Independents, that you get separation of church and State ... not Lutheran, not Anglican.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Baruch on September 10, 2017, 09:52:22 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 10, 2017, 09:05:30 AM
Goebbels would be proud.

No, Goebbels would have already propagandized genocide of immigrants.  And you claim to be a WW II historian?  Please ... don't compare all White people to Hitler, except when you yourself are playing Nazi at Halloween (if then).  Colbert just got slammed for making the Nazi salute.  Stupid media .. that was Roman before it was Nazi.  Are you all ashamed of your Italian Mafia origins?
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Cavebear on September 11, 2017, 02:46:52 AM
Quote from: Baruch on September 10, 2017, 09:52:22 AM
No, Goebbels would have already propagandized genocide of immigrants.  And you claim to be a WW II historian?  Please ... don't compare all White people to Hitler, except when you yourself are playing Nazi at Halloween (if then).  Colbert just got slammed for making the Nazi salute.  Stupid media .. that was Roman before it was Nazi.  Are you all ashamed of your Italian Mafia origins?

Never ignore the intense irrational hatred of those closest to each other.

A comedian can make a hideous symbol for sarcasm.  That is pretty much what they do about everything.  I could discuss the basics of humor if you don't understand it.

I have a lot of Europe i me, but not anything Mafia.  Don't like pasta for a start...



Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Baruch on September 11, 2017, 12:54:14 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 11, 2017, 02:46:52 AM
Never ignore the intense irrational hatred of those closest to each other.

A comedian can make a hideous symbol for sarcasm.  That is pretty much what they do about everything.  I could discuss the basics of humor if you don't understand it.

I have a lot of Europe i me, but not anything Mafia.  Don't like pasta for a start...

Pasta came from China (so they say).  Tomatoes came from America.  Original Roman food was wheat or barley gruel ... with spicy sausages ... for the common folk.  Greens in season.  Seafood if near the coast.  And bread (foccacia) and vinegar wine.

So no Irish mafia, English mafia etc?  Really?
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Cavebear on September 11, 2017, 01:04:28 PM
Quote from: Baruch on September 11, 2017, 12:54:14 PM
Pasta came from China (so they say).  Tomatoes came from America.  Original Roman food was wheat or barley gruel ... with spicy sausages ... for the common folk.  Greens in season.  Seafood if near the coast.  And bread (foccacia) and vinegar wine.

So no Irish mafia, English mafia etc?  Really?

Pasta in southern Italy (independent discovery it seems); wheat in the north.  Tomatoes. bell peppers, corn, squash, beans, from the Americas.  Melons and fruits and counting arabic Indian style from the Mid-East.  1500 was a great year for Europe!
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 11, 2017, 02:12:01 PM
There's always a good reason to have Baruch on ignore.
Title: Re: Beware of food poisoning
Post by: Cavebear on September 11, 2017, 02:15:14 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 11, 2017, 02:12:01 PM
There's always a good reason to have Baruch on ignore.

And I want to SO MUCH.  But then he goes and says a few intelligent things...