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Title: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Coveny on September 07, 2017, 06:34:32 PM
So here recently I've had a string of debates on Facebook with trump supporters and flat earthers and I decided to take a break from the theist insanity and have some intelligent conversations. I'm new so the thing to do is introduce myself. Jobs done. :)

I watch a fair amount TV, but don't read like I use to. I work in IT as a consulting doing Exchange/O365 and Networking. I enjoy science and some of my favorite topics are batteries and alternate energy sources, but I find stuff like wasp venom and nano delivery systems that curing cancer fascinating as well. This include hydro and geothermal which don't seem to get the love they deserves IMO. I also enjoy gaming but I'm holding off on that right now. Still playing a card game called War of Omens, but work on my retirement plan of an 8 unit apartment complex took up all my free time for the last month or so and I stopped playing Black Desert Online. (that game is a huge time sink..) I've played World of Tanks/Warships. Love the Total War series. Played some league of legends but quit when I started playing BDO. (might be going back ARAM and no ranked in the near future) On a humorous note I named my two havanese Teemo and Galio. Was going to debate.org but it's just so buggy now, so I started going to debate island but they've set flat earthers as moderators for the earth science and they just delete my posts when I disagree with them. As I've finally recovered from the housing bubble bursting in 2006 I decided to hire some developers to create ForDebating for me, but the delays are worse than the contractor problems I'm having with my apartment complex. I've almost come to the conclusion no one does what they say they are going to do/their job anymore. It's frustrating, so I figured I'd try some atheist forums and see if that leads to a better quality of discussion.

So hit me up if any of that sounds interesting, and I look forward to getting to know ya.  :azn:
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Baruch on September 07, 2017, 06:41:26 PM
General contractor?  Not too admiral ;-)

IT support here, but soon to retire.  Nobody here is a Trump supporter.  Quite a few were Hillary or Bernie supporters.  I hate both R/D fakes ... Gary Johnson voter last time.  There is a lot of intelligence here, but also deep sarcasm and cynicism.

Welcome.
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 08:08:07 PM
General contractor?  Not too admiral ;-)

IT support here, but soon to retire.  Nobody here is a Trump supporter.  Quite a few were Hillary or Bernie supporters.  I hate both R/D fakes ... Gary Johnson voter last time.  There is a lot of intelligence here, but also deep sarcasm and cynicism.

Welcome.

Mostly on your part...
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Coveny on September 07, 2017, 08:16:18 PM
The first general contractor started then wouldn't return phone calls. The second one said he really wanted the job then three weeks later admitted he took another job, and didn't feel like I was paying him enough for the work he hadn't done. The third one had recommendations hasn't even been hired yet, but hasn't returned my phone call in almost a week now. So I may be looking for number four in the near future...
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Hydra009 on September 07, 2017, 08:36:30 PM
I've played World of Tanks/Warships.
I loved those games!  Loved me some tier 2 light tanks and USA cruisers.  Cleveland with full AA = aerial annihilation.

Unfortunately, a lot of real life stuff has kept me from indulging in long gaming binges as much as I used to.

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It's frustrating, so I figured I'd try some atheist forums and see if that leads to a better quality of discussion.
Eh, I dunno if we can help you there.  I think we have a couple people whose political opinions are *cough* unique, but I dunno if you're going to get a decent debate out of them.  You might want to keep a couple Tylenol on hand, regardless.
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 08:56:21 PM
I loved those games!  Loved me some tier 2 light tanks and USA cruisers.  Cleveland with full AA = aerial annihilation.

Unfortunately, a lot of real life stuff has kept me from indulging in long gaming binges as much as I used to.
Eh, I dunno if we can help you there.  I think we have a couple people whose political opinions are *cough* unique, but I dunno if you're going to get a decent debate out of them.  You might want to keep a couple Tylenol on hand, regardless.

I am more into Civilization 2.  But the idea is the same.  Play well but not frantically.
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 08:57:59 PM
The first general contractor started then wouldn't return phone calls. The second one said he really wanted the job then three weeks later admitted he took another job, and didn't feel like I was paying him enough for the work he hadn't done. The third one had recommendations hasn't even been hired yet, but hasn't returned my phone call in almost a week now. So I may be looking for number four in the near future...

I understand.  I arranged for a brush-cutting guy and he decided not to bother at the last minute.
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Mike Cl on September 07, 2017, 09:12:08 PM
Welcome, Coveny.  Don't listen to those other yahoos--they are all a little 'off'.  Well, Hydra is off, but in a sane sort of way--Baruch is just 'off' in just about any way one can be.  And me--I'm not off, because I was never on.  I do like games, but of the RP type--Skyrim, Fallout 4 (3 and NV) and Oblivion--that sort.  Or board games of all types--so if you find you are in my neighborhood, drop in for a game or two. 
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 09:15:43 PM
Welcome, Coveny.  Don't listen to those other yahoos--they are all a little 'off'.  Well, Hydra is off, but in a sane sort of way--Baruch is just 'off' in just about any way one can be.  And me--I'm not off, because I was never on.  I do like games, but of the RP type--Skyrim, Fallout 4 (3 and NV) and Oblivion--that sort.  Or board games of all types--so if you find you are in my neighborhood, drop in for a game or two.

What am I , chopped liver.  LOL!
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Coveny on September 07, 2017, 10:40:03 PM
I understand.  I arranged for a brush-cutting guy and he decided not to bother at the last minute.

SO annoying. If you don't want to work then don't waste me time...
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Mike Cl on September 07, 2017, 11:05:20 PM
What am I , chopped liver.  LOL!
If you were, I'd not like you.  Even the dogs leave that alone! 
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Unbeliever on September 07, 2017, 11:38:38 PM
What am I , chopped liver.  LOL!
Nah, you're chopped onions.
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Blackleaf on September 08, 2017, 12:02:52 AM
Greetings, newcomer. I too am tired of idiot Trump supporters. But it seems we'll just have to tolerate them for the next eight years or so. Then they can flip their script like the total hypocrites that they are, and complain about the kind of mustard the next Democrat President likes.
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Hydra009 on September 08, 2017, 12:05:31 AM
Greetings, newcomer. I too am tired of idiot Trump supporters. But it seems we'll just have to tolerate them for the next eight years or so. Then they can flip their script like the total hypocrites that they are, and complain about the kind of mustard the next Democrat President likes.
I'm just waiting for the day they say they never liked The Donald in the first place, like they did with Iraq.  If they had principles worth anything, they'd probably end up pawning them.
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Sal1981 on September 08, 2017, 05:33:27 AM
Hi. I play an MMO called RuneScape. I've never played any of those games you mentioned in OP.
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Baruch on September 08, 2017, 07:03:08 AM
The first general contractor started then wouldn't return phone calls. The second one said he really wanted the job then three weeks later admitted he took another job, and didn't feel like I was paying him enough for the work he hadn't done. The third one had recommendations hasn't even been hired yet, but hasn't returned my phone call in almost a week now. So I may be looking for number four in the near future...

Sounds like general contractors are in charge of the planet.  Do you ever consider checking Better Business Bureau or on-line sources for customer complaints against contractors?  A friend of mine didn't look, but should have.
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Baruch on September 08, 2017, 07:04:44 AM
What am I , chopped liver.  LOL!

Bear steak.  But they prefer bear paws in China.  If we see you someday, without hands and feet, we know you have visited China ;-)
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Coveny on September 08, 2017, 07:32:31 AM
Sounds like general contractors are in charge of the planet.  Do you ever consider checking Better Business Bureau or on-line sources for customer complaints against contractors?  A friend of mine didn't look, but should have.

My options were limited. The first contractor was just a guy off craigslist that didn't have a business. The second contractor had a business, but the reviews were mixed. I assume at this point I think it was because he would take jobs that paid better/liked better and ignore the projects he didn't so different people had different experiences with him. The third contractor was a referral who when I contacted him didn't seem that interested. With Irma coming up the coast it's going to make it even more difficult to get a contractor to come out and do the work I fear.
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Baruch on September 08, 2017, 12:43:57 PM
My options were limited. The first contractor was just a guy off craigslist that didn't have a business. The second contractor had a business, but the reviews were mixed. I assume at this point I think it was because he would take jobs that paid better/liked better and ignore the projects he didn't so different people had different experiences with him. The third contractor was a referral who when I contacted him didn't seem that interested. With Irma coming up the coast it's going to make it even more difficult to get a contractor to come out and do the work I fear.

Check the legal docket too ... my friend's general contractor had a long list of unresolved complaints against him, including not paying off the sub-contractors.  Warning, warning ... Will Robinson!
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Cavebear on September 11, 2017, 05:54:27 AM
My options were limited. The first contractor was just a guy off craigslist that didn't have a business. The second contractor had a business, but the reviews were mixed. I assume at this point I think it was because he would take jobs that paid better/liked better and ignore the projects he didn't so different people had different experiences with him. The third contractor was a referral who when I contacted him didn't seem that interested. With Irma coming up the coast it's going to make it even more difficult to get a contractor to come out and do the work I fear.

I am sorry to say that with Irma, bidding for contractors is probably going to be damn near impossible for a couple years...
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Coveny on September 11, 2017, 10:47:03 PM
Yes Irma is going to make this whole situation that much worse for me. :(
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Cavebear on September 14, 2017, 01:20:50 AM
Yes Irma is going to make this whole situation that much worse for me. :(

May be a DIY time for a while...
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Coveny on September 14, 2017, 07:46:51 AM
May be a DIY time for a while...

I'm to old for that s***. My mother found a guy in AR who's interested in moving into one of the units and reno'ing while he lives in Starke FL. He says he needs two weeks, but they've been open for four months at this point so what's a couple more weeks. He'll be contractor #4. :(
Title: Re: Getting tired of Trumpets and Flat Earthers
Post by: Cavebear on September 14, 2017, 07:51:22 AM
I'm to old for that s***. My mother found a guy in AR who's interested in moving into one of the units and reno'ing while he lives in Starke FL. He says he needs two weeks, but they've been open for four months at this point so what's a couple more weeks. He'll be contractor #4. :(

You can always hope.  And advertise a "fixer-upper"  There are fools everywhere..