even though I am not a Muslim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1d5qcVP7ig
1 of 3 episodes. I can relate well to someone from the 14th century, someone (Ibn Battuta) who understands the mystery of human life.
Turkeys voting for Thanksgiving?
Quote from: pr126 on September 04, 2017, 08:38:30 AM
Turkeys voting for Thanksgiving?
I hope to be both tasty and nutritious ;-) Like the advanced bovine at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe.
BBC is promoting Islamophilia.
Quote from: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 08:41:43 AM
I hope to be both tasty and nutritious ;-) Like the advanced bovine at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe.
42.
Quote from: pr126 on September 04, 2017, 09:01:32 AM
BBC is promoting Islamophilia.
All that British Empire, before you were born, before you became English ... is what brung that on. I am sure the BBC is pro Hindu and pro Chinese as well. There were a lot of colonies, not just the Thirteen.
(watching with mild interest)
Quote from: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 10:25:14 AM
(watching with mild interest)
As a fellow American, what do you think of that old British Empire? Empires are always multicultural ... and they let their colonial quislings move to England.
Quote from: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 10:26:20 AM
As a fellow American, what do you think of that old British Empire? Empires are always multicultural ... and they let their colonial quislings move to England.
"Multicultural" and "cosmopolitan" are very different things. The 1st is a forced mix of different cultures, the 2nd a blending.
The BBC is hard left. Supposedly unbiased. Not at all.
I stopped watching the TV years ago.
Still paying though £145.50 per year for the privilege.
(Is that what they mean by White Privilege?)
Quote from: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 10:30:05 AM
"Multicultural" and "cosmopolitan" are very different things. The 1st is a forced mix of different cultures, the 2nd a blending.
Empires aren't voluntary, ask the current victims ;-(
Quote from: pr126 on September 04, 2017, 10:48:16 AM
The BBC is hard left. Supposedly unbiased. Not at all.
I stopped watching the TV years ago.
Still paying though £145.50 per year for the privilege.
(Is that what they mean by White Privilege?)
Yes, Britain is different that way. You actually have actual Leftists. We mostly lost ours in the 1980s. Don't know why. But wait ... forced subscription to false media is very much a thing ... but not yet in the US. The Internet has messed up their plans for world stupefaction. The BBC has wondeful documentaries. And it is wonderful I can watch them on Youtube (even if that is a CIA tool).
Lawrence of Arabia. Our foreign office are Arabist from way back.
Quote from: pr126 on September 04, 2017, 11:01:15 AM
Lawrence of Arabia. Our foreign office are Arabist from way back.
More than one office. Foreign Office and India Office. They were independent and jealous. The Foreign Office backed Lawrence, the India Office backed Ibn Saud. Who won?
Quote from: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 10:26:20 AM
As a fellow American, what do you think of that old British Empire? Empires are always multicultural ... and they let their colonial quislings move to England.
"Useful idiots". They sent Benedict Arnold to India because they couldn't trust him. Once a traitor, always a traitor,
Quote from: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 11:11:13 AM
"Useful idiots". They sent Benedict Arnold to India because they couldn't trust him. Once a traitor, always a traitor,
Yes, they can't be trusted. But that was after they lost the war. Arnold simply had a realization that he was on the wrong side (his Loyalist wife convinced him).
Quote from: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 11:17:21 AM
Yes, they can't be trusted. But that was after they lost the war. Arnold simply had a realization that he was on the wrong side (his Loyalist wife convinced him).
Oh you...
Arnold was pissed because he didn't get the Continental Army promotion he wanted.
You know that.
Don't you?
Quote from: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 11:20:12 AM
Oh you...
Arnold was pissed because he didn't get the Continental Army promotion he wanted.
You know that.
Don't you?
That is what Washington said .. and he did chop down that cherry tree ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 11:21:32 AM
That is what Washington said .. and he did chop down that cherry tree ;-)
Yeah and he slept in every bed in NE. Chopped down the Sahara cherry forest. C'mon Don't be insultingly stupid. Show you are smarter than the average theist...
Quote from: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 11:24:41 AM
Yeah and he slept in every bed in NE. Chopped down the Sahara cherry forest. C'mon Don't be insultingly stupid. Show you are smarter than the average theist...
There are two sides to every story, and you are still a Mobius Strip.
Quote from: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 11:26:31 AM
There are two sides to every story, and you are still a Mobius Strip.
Traffic is seldom blocked on the Mobius Highway. But the ants crawl on it nicely. too.
Highlighting this string for Ibn Khaldun.
What I love about Islam:
1. Muslims are good with clockwork and demolition work. (http://nootropicdesign.com/projectlab/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/dynamite1-large.jpg)
2. Are willing to sacrifice everything for what they believe in. (http://www.idiotfreezone.com/images/stories/publisher/authors/tHedges/Suicide-bombers.jpg)
3. And save all the delicious bacon for the rest of us. (http://www.thepubliceditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Bacon_Islam_Husband_Home_Early.jpg)
((Hey. I'm joking. Don't crucify me.))
Quote from: Blackleaf on September 09, 2017, 11:37:15 AM
What I love about Islam:
1. Muslims are good with clockwork and demolition work. (http://nootropicdesign.com/projectlab/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/dynamite1-large.jpg)
2. Are willing to sacrifice everything for what they believe in. (http://www.idiotfreezone.com/images/stories/publisher/authors/tHedges/Suicide-bombers.jpg)
3. And save all the delicious bacon for the rest of us. (http://www.thepubliceditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Bacon_Islam_Husband_Home_Early.jpg)
((Hey. I'm joking. Don't crucify me.))
Human motivation vs success ...
#2 is why int he future there will be no Infidels left or Left either. Lack of sufficient motivation is a death wish. See Europe today. N America tomorrow.
Quote from: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 11:26:31 AM
There are two sides to every story, and you are still a Mobius Strip.
Thank you, I like that. And I know the joke you are trying...
Finished the travelogue on Ibn Batutta a few days ago. Wonderful adventure modern and medieval.
Glad to see that people aren't really Islamophilic here. I'm glad people have stopped calling Islam the 'religion of peace'. It's so stupid to do that. I was recently in Jakarta with my dad and I almost ran for cover when I heard someone shouting 'Allah u akhbar' through a hailer. A religion of peace should not send people scrambling for cover when its cleric says a prayer.
Quote from: St Truth on September 25, 2017, 12:37:17 PM
Glad to see that people aren't really Islamophilic here. I'm glad people have stopped calling Islam the 'religion of peace'. It's so stupid to do that. I was recently in Jakarta with my dad and I almost ran for cover when I heard someone shouting 'Allah u akhbar' through a hailer. A religion of peace should not send people scrambling for cover when its cleric says a prayer.
Well at least one person here is Islamaphobic ... but he has his reasons. Religion of Peace is a double entendre. You can't have peace without justice, and in the Muslim POV, you can't have justice unless all people volunteer or are forced to become Muslim. And I hope you learn to appreciate the wonderful variety of people in the world.
Religion of peace is a double entendre ? More like an oxymoron.
Quote from: pr126 on September 25, 2017, 01:49:12 PM
Religion of peace is a double entendre ? More like an oxymoron.
You need some more oxycontin ... to cure your oxymoron.
Quote from: Baruch on September 25, 2017, 01:29:39 PM
Well at least one person here is Islamaphobic ... but he has his reasons. Religion of Peace is a double entendre. You can't have peace without justice, and in the Muslim POV, you can't have justice unless all people volunteer or are forced to become Muslim. And I hope you learn to appreciate the wonderful variety of people in the world.
I am all for multi -culturalism but only an idiot would embrace suicide bombers and an ideology that makes it possible for them to thrive. But then Merkel got in a 4th time, didn't she? Oh those Germans!!!
Quote from: St Truth on September 25, 2017, 10:21:55 PM
I am all for multi -culturalism but only an idiot would embrace suicide bombers and an ideology that makes it possible for them to thrive. But then Merkel got in a 4th time, didn't she? Oh those Germans!!!
Unfortunately diplomacy is only one of several human behavior patterns ;-(
Quote from: Baruch on September 25, 2017, 11:00:33 PM
Unfortunately diplomacy is only one of several human behavior patterns ;-(
Diplomacy is not a hallmark of religion. Oh sure, religious leaders will talk to governments, but when push comes to shove, it is always "Our Way Or Suffer Eternal Damnation".
And I crack up when they say "we all worship the same God". But if you don't do it their precise and unique way, HELLFIRE to you. LOL!
(https://overpassesforamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/muslim-bacon.jpg)
Quote from: Munch on September 28, 2017, 06:01:16 AM
(https://overpassesforamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/muslim-bacon.jpg)
SO great! Please walk around the Kaaba in a counterclockwise direction; touching the black stone at the site and insert a strip of that bacon! LOL! I will honor your death.
I'd sooner pass out the bacon to all the people. and when one of them yells out INFIDEL I'll shove bacon in his gob and convert him.
Quote from: Munch on September 28, 2017, 06:57:24 AM
I'd sooner pass out the bacon to all the people. and when one of them yells out INFIDEL I'll shove bacon in his gob and convert him.
I don't think I want to know what YOU think a "gob" is. Let's just say I like bacon and I like women...
Quote from: Cavebear on September 28, 2017, 03:21:27 AM
Diplomacy is not a hallmark of religion. Oh sure, religious leaders will talk to governments, but when push comes to shove, it is always "Our Way Or Suffer Eternal Damnation".
And I crack up when they say "we all worship the same God". But if you don't do it their precise and unique way, HELLFIRE to you. LOL!
When it is Catholic, talking to Catholic ... then it is diplomacy ;-) Otherwise, no. See "The Mission".
Quote from: Baruch on September 28, 2017, 07:24:34 AM
When it is Catholic, talking to Catholic ... then it is diplomacy ;-) Otherwise, no. See "The Mission".
I don't need to see "The Mission". We have all sufferred from it for centuries.
Quote from: Cavebear on September 28, 2017, 07:25:47 AM
I don't need to see "The Mission". We have all sufferred from it for centuries.
Your choice. Keep head in hole in ground. It is a most realistic story of late-Spanish colonization in Paraguay.
Quote from: Baruch on September 28, 2017, 07:29:20 AM
Your choice. Keep head in hole in ground. It is a most realistic story of late-Spanish colonization in Paraguay.
I took my anti-ostrich pill this morning, sorry.
You won't get me supporting those Spanish thugs in SA...
Quote from: Cavebear on September 28, 2017, 07:31:40 AM
I took my anti-ostrich pill this morning, sorry.
You won't get me supporting those Spanish thugs in SA...
You do support English thugs then? Prepared to go back to Jolly Olde England?
Quote from: Baruch on September 28, 2017, 07:32:54 AM
You do support English thugs then? Prepared to go back to Jolly Olde England?
I'll have to ask 'My Ancestory' about that. Some people think I am an alien life form.
Quote from: Cavebear on September 28, 2017, 07:07:57 AM
I don't think I want to know what YOU think a "gob" is. Let's just say I like bacon and I like women...
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gob
Gob
Mouth
of Irish origin.
Word in the Irish language.
In Irish (Gaeilge)gob, meaning beak
transfered as slang in English as mouth
"shut your gob!" ("shut your mouth!")
Quote from: Munch on September 28, 2017, 07:37:07 AM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gob
Gob
Mouth
of Irish origin.
Word in the Irish language.
In Irish (Gaeilge)gob, meaning beak
transfered as slang in English as mouth
"shut your gob!" ("shut your mouth!")
Is THAT where the Aussie "gob-smacked" comes from? I've always wondered.
Quote from: Cavebear on September 28, 2017, 07:38:22 AM
Is THAT where the Aussie "gob-smacked" comes from? I've always wondered.
Sounds abusive of birds or bird lovers ;-(
Quote from: Baruch on September 28, 2017, 12:53:10 PM
Sounds abusive of birds or bird lovers ;-(
No, really, I was involved in a site with a lot of Aussies and they used the term often. I got the meaning, but never knew the origin... Learning are a Good Thing. ;)
Quote from: Cavebear on September 28, 2017, 01:46:33 PM
No, really, I was involved in a site with a lot of Aussies and they used the term often. I got the meaning, but never knew the origin... Learning are a Good Thing. ;)
As I understand the usage ... gobsmacked means ... hitting your own mouth, to cover it, as if in surprise at something embarrassing. So not an actual X on Y assault.
Quote from: Baruch on September 28, 2017, 07:01:35 PM
As I understand the usage ... gobsmacked means ... hitting your own mouth, to cover it, as if in surprise at something embarrassing. So not an actual X on Y assault.
I think the American equivalent is "Slap The Forehead". The point being something you do to yourself to show great surprise but not aggression.