Where does Islamophobia come from?
From Allah and Muhammad of course.
Quran 3:151, Quran 8:60
Allah cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=chT_SjY9zM8
This is copied directly from Moses in the desert and Joshua in Canaan. They are the same G-d, and Jews/Muslims are kindred. If you had a zillion mixed multitude Semites show up on your doorstep, you would be afraid ... oops, forget I said that ...
Quote from: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 10:54:41 AM
This is copied directly from Moses in the desert and Joshua in Canaan. They are the same G-d, and Jews/Muslims are kindred. If you had a zillion mixed multitude Semites show up on your doorstep, you would be afraid ... oops, forget I said that ...
The jews,christians, and mohammedens are all basically the same to me...
Quote from: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 10:56:25 AM
The jews,christians, and mohammedens are all basically the same to me...
Christians are more like 2nd cousins ... they got more Gentile in them.
Quote from: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 10:57:41 AM
Christians are more like 2nd cousins ... they got more Gentile in them.
2nd cousins to WHO? And can they intermarry without reinforcing some recessive genes? You know, like unleavened bread and BLTs?
Quote from: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 11:03:12 AM
2nd cousins to WHO? And can they intermarry without reinforcing some recessive genes? You know, like unleavened bread and BLTs?
Christianity is part pagan (though both Judaism and Islam arose from paganism). Specifically Buddhist and Hindu influenced from Babylon and places farther afield. And that was before Constantine got ahold of it. Also Islam and Judaism aren't races. They are cultural, ideological and for most, theological. In the case of latter Christianity, when the king decided he was Christian, all his subjects (as his property) became Christian also. So much for sincere conversion. The average European is a post-Roman pagan if you scratch below the surface.
Quote from: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 12:45:48 PM
Christianity is part pagan (though both Judaism and Islam arose from paganism). Specifically Buddhist and Hindu influenced from Babylon and places farther afield. And that was before Constantine got ahold of it. Also Islam and Judaism aren't races. They are cultural, ideological and for most, theological. In the case of latter Christianity, when the king decided he was Christian, all his subjects (as his property) became Christian also. So much for sincere conversion. The average European is a post-Roman pagan if you scratch below the surface.
You DO realize you are preaching to an educated atheist here, right? LOL!
Quote from: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 03:10:02 PM
You DO realize you are preaching to an educated atheist here, right? LOL!
If you are the Choir, then give us a Halleluyah!
Quote from: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 08:36:54 PM
If you are the Choir, then give us a Halleluyah!
Madelynmurry!!!
The translation of the word ''terror'' into Turkish is ''fear.''
Terror in its origin means ''intense fear.''
Shouln't be adressed the modern meaning of the word ''terror.''
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on September 04, 2017, 04:29:20 AM
The translation of the word ''terror'' into Turkish is ''fear.''
Terror in its origin means ''intense fear.''
Shouln't be adressed the modern meaning of the word ''terror.''
The words make sense even without translation. Intense fear=terrorism. So are you suggestion some action?
Quote from: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 05:13:22 AM
The words make sense even without translation. Intense fear=terrorism. So are you suggestion some action?
No, i don't...
Where does Islamic terrorism stem from?
It has some base in Quran... But Who does feed the terrorism?
Terrorists are all alone or they are backed...
Who is the financial source... etc?
I don't blame Quran merely... The CIA, Pentagon etc... whatever, are at work...
But terrorists themselves aren't aware of this... They think that they are fighting on behalf of Allah and Islam and that they will go to the heaven when they are martyr...
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on September 04, 2017, 05:35:48 AM
No, i don't...
Where does Islamic terrorism stem from?
It has some base in Quran... But Who does feed the terrorism?
Terrorists are all alone or they are backed...
Who is the financial source... etc?
I don't blame Quran merely... The CIA, Pentagon etc... whatever, are at work...
But terrorists themselves aren't aware of this... They think that they are fighting on behalf of Allah and Islam and that they will go to the heaven when they are martyr...
Ah, so you think the CIA etc is the cause of the Islamist terrorists? Well then, surely we should shut down the CIA.
Quote from: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 06:33:37 AM
Ah, so you think the CIA etc is the cause of the Islamist terrorists? Well then, surely we should shut down the CIA.
yeah.
Whether you should shut down the CIA or not is not my problem or business...
Are you speaking on behalf of the CIA when saying ''we''...
I think you mean the ''Americans'' when saying we...
Whereas, the CIA is global...
How do you know i am not working for the CIA...
Whatever but i would like to :D
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on September 04, 2017, 06:50:36 AM
yeah.
As impossible as answering the original question "who will guard the guards?". Nobody is minding the store at the top, except the wolves. The government works for the CIA, not the other way around.
Quote from: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 06:54:31 AM
As impossible as answering the original question "who will guard the guards?". Nobody is minding the store at the top, except the wolves. The government works for the CIA, not the other way around.
What is the ultimate goal of the CIA?
It ıs clıche to say their goal is to establish ''one world government'' but...
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on September 04, 2017, 07:04:31 AM
What is the ultimate goal of the CIA?
It ıs clıche to say their goal is to establish ''one world government'' but...
Order. Like a giant setup of dominoes ... so they can then kick it over and start all over again. It started as ... "for our own good" but turned into "for their own good".
The CIA takes orders from others ... but that is the conspiracy. The CIA is real, one can't tell, by definition, if the conspiracy is real. It is clear to any skeptical student of history as to what the CIA has been doing and continues to do. Un-skeptical people should just keep on voting for the same bad choices ... that are pre-chosen for us.
Allah wasn't always a terrorist. Learned it from Muhammad.
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on September 04, 2017, 06:52:48 AM
Whether you should shut down the CIA or not is not my problem or business...
Are you speaking on behalf of the CIA when saying ''we''...
I think you mean the ''Americans'' when saying we...
Whereas, the CIA is global...
How do you know i am not working for the CIA...
Whatever but i would like to :D
And I'm sure they have you on their short list of people too crazy for them.
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on September 04, 2017, 06:52:48 AM
Whether you should shut down the CIA or not is not my problem or business...
Are you speaking on behalf of the CIA when saying ''we''...
I think you mean the ''Americans'' when saying we...
Whereas, the CIA is global...
How do you know i am not working for the CIA...
Whatever but i would like to :D
By "we" I mean fellow Americans primarily. But security services rule every country. Why is the former head of the KGB, the head of Russia now? Why was the former head of the CIA, the head of the US in 1989-1993. The MI6 and MI5 are real. Why has Trump mutated from an anti-Establishment figure into the new right-half LBJ?
Yes, the CIA is global, all major security services are of course. One global village ... of spies. Not everyone here is from the US. Most people know from my posts that I presently work for the US government ... for awhile longer. I have worked directly or indirectly for the US government, for half of my physical life. If I have had any prior or present relationship with security agencies, I can't say, for obvious reasons. But the fact that I do know much of what they have done in the past, and understand why they do it ... is a clue to the clueless. I am sympathetic ... to them, and to everyone else too. I never see black vs white.
And no, I don't want to shut them down. Facts on the ground supersede Constitutional fictions. I take my cue from facts, not from ideologies or childish propaganda.
And no, I don't think it would be nice to work directly for them. I have peeked thru the curtain, and it is a rather ugly scene in the abattoir. I will take my hamburger, but without the blood dripping from it.
Did you know, the first James Bond televised, before Sean Connery ... had the lead as an American CIA agent? The first Casino Royale ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_(Climax!) with Peter Lorre as LeCheffe. Way back in 1954 ;-)
Quote from: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 09:30:00 AM
And I'm sure they have you on their short list of people too crazy for them.
Actually some of here would be candidates to be inducted into MK Ultra. It worked for the primary character in the novel/movie Kim (the British Raj and the great game with Russia).
Quote from: pr126 on September 04, 2017, 09:10:50 AM
Allah wasn't always a terrorist. Learned it from Muhammad.
Proverbs 16:7 When the LORD takes pleasure in anyone’s way, he causes their enemies to make peace with them. Exactly Quran's theory of war.
Quote from: pr126 on September 04, 2017, 09:10:50 AM
Allah wasn't always a terrorist. Learned it from Muhammad.
You better run fast. I bet there is some Islamic rule about dissing Alllah, LOL!
Quote from: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 11:13:25 AM
You better run fast. I bet there is some Islamic rule about dissing Alllah, LOL!
Too old to care. Or to run.
Quote from: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 11:13:25 AM
You better run fast. I bet there is some Islamic rule about dissing Alllah, LOL!
That is the problem with idolatry of foundation figures. G-d is big enough to brush off criticism. People idolizing founders aren't that big.
Quote from: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 11:15:57 AM
That is the problem with idolatry of foundation figures. G-d is big enough to brush off criticism. People idolizing founders aren't that big.
Well, since the only representatives of any religion I see here are mortal. I agree they are the ones to fear.
Quote from: pr126 on August 31, 2017, 10:46:49 AM
Where does Islamophobia come from?
From Allah and Muhammad of course.
Or maybe it comes from people who want to incite Islamaphobia?
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/court-told-mock-beheading-was-not-to-stir-up-hate-just-inspire-robust-debate-20170905-gyb3df.html
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Three far-right activists charged under Victoria's racial vilification laws have told a court they didn't intend to insult Muslims in staging a mock beheading.
United Patriots Front members Blair Cottrell, 27, Christopher Shortis, 46, and Neil Erikson, 32, have pleaded not guilty to inciting contempt, revulsion or ridicule of Muslims in a video made in protest at plans to build a mosque in Bendigo.
The video, filmed outside the City of Bendigo offices on October 4, 2015, features Mr Cottrell speaking to camera about the mosque plans and directing Mr Shortis and Mr Erikson to decapitate a dummy with a toy plastic sword.
When the dummy is beheaded, red liquid spills onto the footpath.
Nothing to fear Comrade Unbeliever (your current avatar inspires that). A few proletarians will die for the greater good.
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on September 04, 2017, 05:35:48 AM
No, i don't...
Where does Islamic terrorism stem from?
It has some base in Quran... But Who does feed the terrorism?
Terrorists are all alone or they are backed...
Who is the financial source... etc?
I don't blame Quran merely... The CIA, Pentagon etc... whatever, are at work...
But terrorists themselves aren't aware of this... They think that they are fighting on behalf of Allah and Islam and that they will go to the heaven when they are martyr...
There was no CIA in the 7th century.
Quote from: Sylar on September 06, 2017, 01:18:23 PM
There was no CIA in the 7th century.
We aren't living in the 7th century either. The CIA had nothing to do with Al Qaida in Afghanistan (cough). The CIA goes around secretly kissing babies and handing out non-sugar candy. Though I do think that "sorbital" is a weapon of mass flatulence.
I'm proudly islamophobic.
I hate all religion, but most of them don't disgust me as much as islam does.
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 05, 2017, 04:45:31 PM
Or maybe it comes from people who want to incite Islamaphobia?
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/court-told-mock-beheading-was-not-to-stir-up-hate-just-inspire-robust-debate-20170905-gyb3df.html
And that is symbolic for actual actions they would like to do.
Quote from: pr126 on August 31, 2017, 10:46:49 AM
Where does Islamophobia come from?
From Allah and Muhammad of course.
Quran 3:151, Quran 8:60
Allah cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=chT_SjY9zM8
There is no such thing as Islamophobia. There is only Evilphobia.
Islam, christianity, judaism, hindu, all are nutso.
Captain Obvious?
Quote from: pr126 on October 08, 2017, 04:39:08 AM
Captain Obvious?
When I criticize one religion, sometimes it seems necessary to point out I am not in favor of the others lest fools misunderstand what atheism is.