I knew this was coming, but I haven't been following the news for a couple of days. Now there is this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV5eF88p5rE
Quote from: SGOS on August 28, 2017, 09:10:22 AM
I knew this was coming, but I haven't been following the news for a couple of days. Now there is this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV5eF88p5rE
RT! They must be loving this!
Apparently the rain has only just started! Just think how bad this would be if global warming were real!!
Yeah, it's a good thing global warming is just a Chinese hoax!
Those Texans clearly didn't pray to god hard enough.
National Duck Duck Goose Championships, held at Houston every year, have been canceled.
/fakenews
Quote from: Sorginak on August 28, 2017, 10:45:00 AM
Those Texans clearly didn't pray to god hard enough.
If I remember correctly, Texas (gov perry) did not want to help send any money to NJ for it's last hurricane. Do you suppose TX wants some monetary help now?
Quote from: Mike Cl on August 28, 2017, 11:42:39 AM
If I remember correctly, Texas (gov perry) did not want to help send any money to NJ for it's last hurricane. Do you suppose TX wants some monetary help now?
Well, Duh?! Everyone in NJ deserved what they got, but to Texas, this was an act of God for gay marriages in New Jersey.
In Texas they call it "Jew Nersey."
This is so shocking, I never take weather broadcasts all that seriously, but maybe I will now. :(
2 more feet of rain is on the way.
Is it bad I laugh at my brother for living there?
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on August 29, 2017, 02:47:59 AM
Is it bad I laugh at my brother for living there?
Laughter is an interrupted defense mechanism, so it's just being human.
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on August 29, 2017, 02:47:59 AM
Is it bad I laugh at my brother for living there?
I have a bunch of cousins living there as well. Don't know why. I mean, a nice day in Houston, weather wise, is like living in a hot-house. Humidity is too high to measure.
Thanks, Obama!
... ... Somehow...
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on August 29, 2017, 11:37:32 AM
Thanks, Obama!
... ... Somehow...
He wanted it to be like when he was a kid in school, in Indonesia ;-) Now all Texas needs is great big volcanoes.
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on August 29, 2017, 11:37:32 AM
Thanks, Obama!
... ... Somehow...
While Trump ignores Harvey to tweet about the wall
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on August 29, 2017, 04:14:51 PM
While Trump ignores Harvey to tweet about the wall
Well, it's not like we're expecting him to do anything.
Probably the less he does the better - another case of "less is more."
Quote from: Unbeliever on August 29, 2017, 06:48:09 PM
Probably the less he does the better - another case of "less is more."
Dao, not Zen.
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on August 29, 2017, 04:14:51 PM
While Trump ignores Harvey to tweet about the wall
I wouldn't say Trump ignored Harvey...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/28/us/politics/trump-finland-harvey-arpaio-russia.html?mcubz=0 (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/28/us/politics/trump-finland-harvey-arpaio-russia.html?mcubz=0)
QuoteWASHINGTON â€" President Trump offered a fiery defense on Monday of his decision to pardon Joe Arpaio, the former Arizona sheriff, as Hurricane Harvey made landfall in Texas last week â€" and claimed he timed it to attract maximum attention as television viewers were glued to storm coverage.
In local news, he has been spending most of his time here in Texas talking about how great the crowds are and treating the whole Harvey disaster as a sideshow to boost his own coverage. And look, that's one thing for a celebrity do... shit, it's even one thing for a president to do it... but it is not presidential in the least to boast about it. If you don't feel bad for the victims, at least spend 5 minutes looking like you do and keep you fucking mouth shut.
What he is literally say is that Hurricane Harvey victims, the worst natural disaster to hit the most powerful state in the union, are all just tools to feed his ego and to bring more attention to the fact that he has yet again defended and pardoned extreme racism, this time not from third-party groups but from a government official. The worst part is this almost feels normal now, when this is absolutely not in the fucking least normal.
Thank God Joel Osteen and his mega church in Houston. I'm sure his mega church is opening it's arms to the needy--and I'm sure he is opening all the rooms in his 10 million dollar home, as well. There really is nothing quite as effective as christian giving!
Trump's on the scene now. Haven't these poor people suffered enough?
Quote from: Hydra009 on August 29, 2017, 09:34:14 PM
Trump's on the scene now. Haven't these poor people suffered enough?
Just another politician kissing water logged babies. And stealing their candy while they do. A D party person would never do that (cough).
Quote from: Hydra009 on August 29, 2017, 09:34:14 PM
Trump's on the scene now. Haven't these poor people suffered enough?
Somewhat on the scene, anyways; he wasn't allowed to go to Houston, because everyone thought he would cause more harm than good.
Let that sink in that a president of the United States isn't allowed into a major city after a national tragedy because it's feared he will just make things worse rather than pulling things together. Not even Bush or Nixon was that despised.
Quote from: Shiranu on August 30, 2017, 07:21:41 AM
Somewhat on the scene, anyways; he wasn't allowed to go to Houston, because everyone thought he would cause more harm than good.
Let that sink in that a president of the United States isn't allowed into a major city after a national tragedy because it's feared he will just make things worse rather than pulling things together. Not even Bush or Nixon was that despised.
It's not a new thing. Bush Senior wanted to come to San Diego when we were having flooding there, back in the '80s. The Governor told him to FOAD.
At least The Donald is selling a neat white hat!
Interesting that a Houston businessman who owns a few furniture stores in the city has opened his showrooms up as a place of refuge for the flood victims. This was done while Joel Osteen was whining that his mega church could not open because it was flooded. I live within radio distance of Fresno, and they have a very conservative station (KMJ)--was running some errands and listened to it for a few minutes. Two of their most conservative dj's were talking about Osteen and his mega church. They were questioning why this perfect refuge was not open, why Osteen was lying about it and then talking about how some people were on the grounds of the mega church and were filming (with their phones) the dryness of the place. They wanted to know why this tax free church was not open, since this church was able to handle over 16000 people, with shelter, water, sewer facilities, etc. They really raked him over the coals, which surprised me a bit--in a good way.
Later, Osteen did open his mega church--the wonder of internet shame. Doubt he will open any of his 10 million dollar mansion, tho. Surely Jesus would not do that!
Quote from: Shiranu on August 30, 2017, 07:21:41 AM
Somewhat on the scene, anyways; he wasn't allowed to go to Houston, because everyone thought he would cause more harm than good.
Let that sink in that a president of the United States isn't allowed into a major city after a national tragedy because it's feared he will just make things worse rather than pulling things together. Not even Bush or Nixon was that despised.
Bush Jr did so well, with Katrina. If he had a brain cell, he would have stayed away too. And Nixon was liberal compared to R leaders today ... not unlike Hillary actually ;-)
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on August 30, 2017, 08:39:01 AM
It's not a new thing. Bush Senior wanted to come to San Diego when we were having flooding there, back in the '80s. The Governor told him to FOAD.
Interesting. Never liked Bush Sr. , but I never thought of him as being that shitty. You have to be really unpopular to be told as the president by one of your governors to stay away.
Quote from: Shiranu on August 30, 2017, 02:31:39 PM
Interesting. Never liked Bush Sr. , but I never thought of him as being that shitty. You have to be really unpopular to be told as the president by one of your governors to stay away.
I don't know The context and all, but could also have been an Asshole of a senator.
Quote from: Mike Cl on August 30, 2017, 09:40:05 AM
At least The Donald is selling a neat white hat!
Yeah, and Melania wore a very appropriate hat to the flood:
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/xu_zVqHVhA2Up4EZxv9DiQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/news.mashable/3bb2f49f342b1eca595220336e8c4279)
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on August 30, 2017, 02:39:29 PM
I don't know The context and all, but could also have been an Asshole of a senator.
G H W Bush wasn't ever representative for California, let alone San Diego ... he represented Houston Texas in the US House, not the US Senate. He was defeated twice in runs for the US Senate from Texas. He was an early New England migrant to Texas after WW II. His father served in the US Senate for Connecticut. G H W Bush began his real rise in cabinet positions under Nixon and Ford, eventually being the running mate of Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984.
Quote from: Shiranu on August 30, 2017, 02:31:39 PM
Interesting. Never liked Bush Sr. , but I never thought of him as being that shitty. You have to be really unpopular to be told as the president by one of your governors to stay away.
It was probably the security flail that killed the visit. Reagan was coming through San Diego airport once and my friends at airport security told us to leave our guns at home that day. We didn't have anybody of interest at that time so it was no sweat, but telling the Navy they're not trusted by the Secret Service was entertaining.
Quote from: Shiranu on August 30, 2017, 02:31:39 PM
Interesting. Never liked Bush Sr. , but I never thought of him as being that shitty. You have to be really unpopular to be told as the president by one of your governors to stay away.
Didn't like him either ... he was CIA from the 1950s, eventually CIA Director.
Quote from: Unbeliever on August 30, 2017, 03:02:13 PM
Yeah, and Melania wore a very appropriate hat to the flood:
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/xu_zVqHVhA2Up4EZxv9DiQ--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/news.mashable/3bb2f49f342b1eca595220336e8c4279)
Jetsam and flotsam are nautical terms appropriate for most of Houston these days.
Quote from: Mike Cl on August 30, 2017, 09:51:48 AM
Interesting that a Houston businessman who owns a few furniture stores in the city has opened his showrooms up as a place of refuge for the flood victims. This was done while Joel Osteen was whining that his mega church could not open because it was flooded. I live within radio distance of Fresno, and they have a very conservative station (KMJ)--was running some errands and listened to it for a few minutes. Two of their most conservative dj's were talking about Osteen and his mega church. They were questioning why this perfect refuge was not open, why Osteen was lying about it and then talking about how some people were on the grounds of the mega church and were filming (with their phones) the dryness of the place. They wanted to know why this tax free church was not open, since this church was able to handle over 16000 people, with shelter, water, sewer facilities, etc. They really raked him over the coals, which surprised me a bit--in a good way.
Later, Osteen did open his mega church--the wonder of internet shame. Doubt he will open any of his 10 million dollar mansion, tho. Surely Jesus would not do that!
The sad part is for every asshole like him there are sincere ministers and pastors who will do their utmost in this tragedy and be there to help people put their lives together in the aftermath.
Quote from: Drew_2017 on August 30, 2017, 09:31:13 PM
The sad part is for every asshole like him there are sincere ministers and pastors who will do their utmost in this tragedy and be there to help people put their lives together in the aftermath.
One does not need to be a minister or christian, or any thing other than human. Clearly Osteen is not really human. He is way to wealthy to feel the humanity of the humans he frauds money out of. Humans are helping other humans in Houston now. Theology is not needed.
The Texans once said about Hurricane Sandy that it was a local issue and the Federal Government shouldn't be involved.
I'm waiting to see them stay consistent now...
I expect the aftermath will be worse than the storm and flooding. Because Republicans are in charge there - though I'm not sure that Democrats would do much better. I do hope they can at least avoid a cholera outbreak, but all that water has to be about as filthy as water can get, and now there's all those toxic chemicals to worry about.
Hopefully the toxins will kill the cholera ;-(
I just heard that Chump's declared Sunday to be a "national day of prayer" for the victims of the storm. Yeah, that's the way to deal with the tragedy - ask God for help. As if God didn't allow the damn storm in the first place.
We know he didn't, since he doesn't exist, but millions of people believe he does exist, and if he did exist it was him that brought the storm - that's why they call them "acts of God." So pray to him for relief - sure, that'll work...
you forgot that Trump is god's chosen leader. Only the leader chosen by god ever wins the election.
Damm!!! god's chosen leader is a dumb playboy. And now Houston had a big hurricane. god must be punishing Houston for their sins... maybe there are more gay people in Houston than San Fransisco.
Quote from: fencerider on September 02, 2017, 12:41:09 AM
you forgot that Trump is god's chosen leader. Only the leader chosen by god ever wins the election.
Damm!!! god's chosen leader is a dumb playboy. And now Houston had a big hurricane. god must be punishing Houston for their sins... maybe there are more gay people in Houston than San Fransisco.
Maybe god doesn't hate gays, just people in The closet.
(https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/YOwALbR5pFS71YFE7gb9eA--/YXBwaWQ9eW15O3E9NzU7dz02NDA7c209MQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/the_huffington_post_584/f661df29cf5591667ef6332c08f15b69)
Quote from: fencerider on September 02, 2017, 12:41:09 AM
Trump is god's chosen leader.
That right there shows how fucked up God is...
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 02, 2017, 10:10:49 AM
That right there shows how fucked up God is...
I dunno, if shows if there is a god he's got a fucked up sense of humor and why he's good for a laugh, but not someone you want to bow to.
Yeah, just like Chump.
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 02, 2017, 11:54:41 AM
Yeah, just like Chump.
As an American, I have never bowed to a President. They aren't monarchy, they are my employee.
Yeah, I know that, and you know that, but I bet Chump doesn't know that. He thinks he's the emperor of all the Americas in this hemisphere.
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 02, 2017, 07:09:31 PM
Yeah, I know that, and you know that, but I bet Chump doesn't know that. He thinks he's the emperor of all the Americas in this hemisphere.
God-Emperor of Dune .. to eventually evolve into a giant sand worm.
As a result of Harvey hitting Texas, NC has declared a state of emergency (http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article170667557.html).
We're not flooded or burning or anything. We just have much higher gas prices, since damage to refineries in Texas and Louisiana reduced our gas supply. Good ol' supply and demand working its magic. The state of emergency is just to temporarily waive some restrictions for trucks carrying gasoline so we can get more faster.
We also have our buttcheeks puckered for Hurricane Irma, which may or may not slam right into us.
(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/153/590x/Hurricane-Irma-848456.jpg)
I always hate it when gas prices go up, but I also remember when it was over $4.00 a gallon, and no one declared a state of emergency. Anything under $3.00 doesn't alarm me to a great extent. However, watching prices go up is always scary to me, be it gas or a bottle of ketchup. We have had a wonderful respite in gas prices for the last several years, and I am not looking forward to returning to $80 a tank. That hurts. State of emergency, seems like an odd response right now. It's all relative, I suppose. Poor people live in a personal state of emergency all the time.
I puzzled over that map this morning. Someone went through a lot of work to show that we don't know where Irma is going to go yet.
Quote from: SGOS on September 03, 2017, 11:30:43 AMState of emergency, seems like an odd response right now.
It's not an emergency emergency. It's just that's what you have to do as Governor to speed up gas shipments when there's a supply shortfall.
Quote from: SGOS on September 03, 2017, 11:35:09 AM
I puzzled over that map this morning. Someone went through a lot of work to show that we don't know where Irma is going to go yet.
Not really, they have programs that can predict paths depending on things like water temperature.
Quote from: SGOS on September 03, 2017, 11:35:09 AM
I puzzled over that map this morning. Someone went through a lot of work to show that we don't know where Irma is going to go yet.
The article (https://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/848456/Hurricane-Irma-path-map-storm-hit-New-York-USA) that image is from ran with this headline: "Hurricane Irma path: Foreboding 15-day weather map shows terrifying storm may hit NEW YORK"
New York in ALL CAPS FOR EMPHASIS.
Meanwhile, the first two sentences of the body: "A new ensemble map reveals the highest pressure will hit North and South Carolina, and Virgina, half way down the coast to Florida.
An area of very high pressure will also hit Maine, New Hampshire ad Massachusetts before going inland to New York, the map currently shows."
So, it might hit pretty much the whole Eastern Seaboard but NEW YORK gets top billing? Sure, it's a british audience who may or may not be familiar with the less popular US states, but jeez guys at least mention Florida first.
On the map there are so many hurricane paths over florida you can't even see Florida.
And of course, there is no America W of NJ ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on September 01, 2017, 03:06:05 PM
Hopefully the toxins will kill the cholera ;-(
Do you actually think that will happen? Is there a vector you have in mind?
Quote from: Cavebear on September 03, 2017, 11:09:53 PM
Do you actually think that will happen? Is there a vector you have in mind?
There are nasty chemicals coming out of the burning refinery ... certainly some of them will even kill Democrats ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on September 03, 2017, 11:20:06 PM
There are nasty chemicals coming out of the burning refinery ... certainly some of them will even kill Democrats ;-)
There you go again. Snark that means nothing... I meant that you should explain your claim that the toxic chemicals would kill the disease vectors. But you don't actually know anything about that, do you?
Quote from: Cavebear on September 03, 2017, 11:45:44 PM
There you go again. Snark that means nothing... I meant that you should explain your claim that the toxic chemicals would kill the disease vectors. But you don't actually know anything about that, do you?
You do the chemistry, Dr Mengele. I simply inverted the original snark idea "might even kill Republicans" because people here would take that literally.
Quote from: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 12:24:34 AM
You do the chemistry, Dr Mengele. I simply inverted the original snark idea "might even kill Republicans" because people here would take that literally.
Mebbe. But *I* wasn't snarking Republicans OR even Nazis there. Appropriate comments matter.
I have very little Texas pride, but H.E.B. is something all Texans (and frankly all Americans, even if they don't have one outside of Texas) should be proud of. One of the few corporations with morals and integrity.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/inside-story-what-took-keep-texas-grocery-chain-running-chip-cutter (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/inside-story-what-took-keep-texas-grocery-chain-running-chip-cutter)
Quote from: Shiranu on September 04, 2017, 12:48:24 AM
I have very little Texas pride, but H.E.B. is something all Texans (and frankly all Americans, even if they don't have one outside of Texas) should be proud of. One of the few corporations with morals and integrity.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/inside-story-what-took-keep-texas-grocery-chain-running-chip-cutter (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/inside-story-what-took-keep-texas-grocery-chain-running-chip-cutter)
Had to look that up, but OK.
My sister in Chicago is attending a workshop at the Humane Society for potential foster parents of rescued dogs from Hurricane Harvey. I just read the same thing is going on in San Francisco. She doesn't have a dog, but she and her husband babysit friend's dogs on occasion and love it when they get the chance. I hope this will be a pleasant experience for them. I told her to pick a nice one, because she will probably end up keeping it. But she said they have been warned that they may have to give them back if they find the owners. It sounds like there must be a lot of these dogs that have been separated from their owners.
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/8b/8b0a2715b7f482df5e9d2ba245437b73ea4f56c21101f90386c618cb7734ba38.jpg)
Joel Osteen Says He Didn't Open His Church for Shelter From Harvey Because Nobody Asked Him To (https://splinternews.com/joel-osteen-says-he-didnt-open-his-church-for-shelter-b-1798623154)
Apparently Rush Slime-ball thinks hurricanes are a liberal conspiracy:
Rush Limbaugh on Hurricane Irma: Powerful Storm or Liberal Conspiracy? (http://www.newsweek.com/irma-hurricane-limbaugh-climate-change-liberal-conspiracy-trump-deep-state-659890)
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 06, 2017, 05:05:59 PM
Apparently Rush Slime-ball thinks hurricanes are a liberal conspiracy:
Rush Limbaugh on Hurricane Irma: Powerful Storm or Liberal Conspiracy? (http://www.newsweek.com/irma-hurricane-limbaugh-climate-change-liberal-conspiracy-trump-deep-state-659890)
If he isn't acting like a douche-bag he'd loose his audience, what's left of them anyway.
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 06, 2017, 05:05:59 PM
Apparently Rush Slime-ball thinks hurricanes are a liberal conspiracy:
Rush Limbaugh on Hurricane Irma: Powerful Storm or Liberal Conspiracy? (http://www.newsweek.com/irma-hurricane-limbaugh-climate-change-liberal-conspiracy-trump-deep-state-659890)
aka Global Warming is a liberal conspiracy ... both because if is a fraud (Carbon Trading) and it is real (stronger storms).
Quote from: Baruch on September 06, 2017, 08:14:29 PM
aka Global Warming is a liberal conspiracy ... both because if is a fraud (Carbon Trading) and it is real (stronger storms).
It is a conservative denial. "What they don't want to be true can't be real".
(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21151448_10213054116921518_1564090879938234957_n.jpg?oh=dffc633f5783eec97cc121b986e17b9e&oe=5A22F3B0)
Quote from: Shiranu on September 07, 2017, 03:10:11 AM
(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21151448_10213054116921518_1564090879938234957_n.jpg?oh=dffc633f5783eec97cc121b986e17b9e&oe=5A22F3B0)
Having cash is good. I carry around a few 100 routinely. You never know when it is the only thing that work...
Quote from: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 03:52:10 AM
Having cash is good. I carry around a few 100 routinely. You never know when it is the only thing that work...
Ah, but the governments in 1st world want to outlaw that. They want you to line up for your "rectal exam" first.
Quote from: Baruch on September 07, 2017, 07:08:08 AM
Ah, but the governments in 1st world want to outlaw that. They want you to line up for your "rectal exam" first.
Yeah, last time I left the US was in 1980-something. And people think the US is mean...
Quote from: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 02:34:59 AM
It is a conservative denial. "What they don't want to be true can't be real".
They're against AGW because it would cost them money. Not any more complicated than that.
Quote from: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 07:57:44 AM
Yeah, last time I left the US was in 1980-something. And people think the US is mean...
Beta tested in the 3rd world first, then brought here ;-(
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 07, 2017, 10:54:38 AM
They're against AGW because it would cost them money. Not any more complicated than that.
Anthropogenic Global Warming? Yep, can't be happening. It would be bad for business and God would not allow THAT!
Quote from: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 03:18:37 PM
Anthropogenic Global Warming? Yep, can't be happening. It would be bad for business and God would not allow THAT!
That's pretty much the logic I get from my cousins. They also say that Harvey was fake news.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 07, 2017, 03:42:51 PM
That's pretty much the logic I get from my cousins. They also say that Harvey was fake news.
They remember that Harvey is a giant invisible rabbit.
Quote from: Baruch on September 07, 2017, 06:38:35 PM
They remember that Harvey is a giant invisible rabbit.
You too much an offensive idiot. I tried, I really did.
Quote from: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 07:48:35 PM
You too much an offensive idiot. I tried, I really did.
You got something against Jimmy Stewart .. punk? His pooka gonna come down on ya.