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Title: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Drew_2017 on August 26, 2017, 07:46:22 PM
Sign of the times I guess...

QuoteA first grader at a California charter school was sent to the principal’s office this week after she accidentally “misgendered” a classmate in what’s being called a “pronoun mishap.”

We're developing a new vocabulary to accommodate gender confusion.

QuoteThe incident occurred at Rocklin Academy, a school roiled by controversy after a kindergarten teacher led an in-class discussion on transgenderism that included a “gender reveal” for a little boy who was transitioning to a little girl. Parents were furious because they were not informed in advance and were not given the chance to opt their five-year-olds from the classroom transgender activity. However, school leaders informed moms and dads â€" they were not allowed to opt-out â€" and the state did not require them to notify parents.

Hmmm how fascist of them to tell parents to butt out.

QuoteThe latest incident occurred during the first week of school when a first grader came across a classmate on the playground. She called the student by his given name â€" apparently unaware that the boy now identified as a girl.

An act that should call for waterboarding.

Quote“This innocent little first grader sees a classmate, calls him by the name she knew him last year and the boy reports it to a teacher,” Capitol Resource Institute’s Karen England told me. “The little girl gets in trouble on the playground and then gets called out of class to the principal’s office.”

I think this problem requires a government solution. Lets ear mark $500 million to 'study' the problem.


http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/25/first-grader-sent-to-office-for-misgendering-fellow-student.html
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Sorginak on August 26, 2017, 07:52:03 PM
QuoteEngland said the first grader was investigated by the principal to determine whether or not she had bullied the transgender child by calling him by his original name. After about an hour it was determined the little girl made an honest mistake and she was not punished or reprimanded.

Oh, look at that.

As usual, the right making a big deal about nothing. 
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 07:54:15 PM
Proposed law in California, to jail nurses who misgender patients.

PC over-reaction is so ... past its sell date.  Arrest all the so-called adults and lock them in the loony bin.  Like the cop that arrested the little boy at school, who tore his PG&J sandwich into the shape of a gun.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Shiranu on August 26, 2017, 07:59:34 PM
I would like to see a legitimate news site report this first before coming to a conclusion. From what it sounds like it is yet another mountain of yet another mole hill that signifies the end times of society as we know it. Boring.

I remember the incident of the reading though, and I do agree that is too young to be discussing sexuality with children. I don't think it's going to cause some catastrophic failure and turn them all into sexually identifying as apache attack helicopters, but sexuality isn't something that needs to be addressed in first grade outside of teaching that it doesn't matter a flying shit what gender you are, everyone should be treated with respect.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Drew_2017 on August 26, 2017, 10:02:09 PM
England said the first grader was investigated by the principal to determine whether or not she had bullied the transgender child by calling him by his original name. After about an hour it was determined the little girl made an honest mistake and she was not punished or reprimanded.

Quote from: Sorginak on August 26, 2017, 07:52:03 PM
Oh, look at that.

As usual, the right making a big deal about nothing.

You don't think its traumatic for a 1st grader to go to the principals office? Why would it take an hour? In my opinion its irresponsible for parents to allow a first grader to determine what gender they are. It must be the child's decision because they wouldn't do it if only the parents wanted a different gender.

Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Shiranu on August 26, 2017, 10:11:39 PM
QuoteWhy would it take an hour?

I spent over half of my school career at the principals' office, and I can assure you something as small as giving the middle finger to another student can take well over an hour. I wouldn't read into that any more than it is.

QuoteIn my opinion its irresponsible for parents to allow a first grader to determine what gender they are.

In my opinion it's irresponsible for parents to not allow a first grader to express themselves as whatever gender they are.
In my opinion it's irresponsible for parents to allow a first grader to determine what type of food they want to eat.
In my opinion it's irresponsible for parents to allow a first grade to eat what ever type of food they want to eat.
In my opinion it's irresponsible for parents to allow a first grader to play sports where they could get seriously injured.
In my opinion it's irresponsible for parents to allow a first grader to not be involved in sports where they learn team work and have physical exercise.

See, opinions on someone else's first grader mean very little, because all of those sound like absolutely valid arguments. Certainly we can all agree that we shouldn't let first graders do heroine, or murder their siblings, but besides that what is or isn't right to teach a kid is completely subjective to the society you live in.

I've already expressed I don't think teaching them about gender issues like that at first grade outside of, "Treat every gender with kindness and fairness" is the best idea, but I also don't think that acting like it's the end of the world to do so is appropriate either. The only difference is I'm not going to pretend that opinion should therefor be the rule for everyone else. If a parent treats their kid with kindness and respect, the school does so as well, then I have no business butting into their affairs because it's frankly none of my damn business.

Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Hydra009 on August 26, 2017, 10:28:51 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on August 26, 2017, 07:59:34 PMI would like to see a legitimate news site report this first before coming to a conclusion.
What, you don't use Fox News as your primary source?  But it says a lot of stuff that conservatives want to believe is true.  It can't be wrong if it's right all the time!
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Munch on August 27, 2017, 05:00:01 AM
Quote from: Sorginak on August 26, 2017, 07:52:03 PM
Oh, look at that.

As usual, the right making a big deal about nothing.

The fact she was sent to the principles office in the first place IS the big deal. Its forced gender politics on a child, a simple correction by the teacher should have been enough.

Or maybe its the oversensitive nature of parents and teachers who can't figure a better way to raise kids. When my nephews remark on my weight, I don't get butthurt over it and make them sit on a step for fifteen minutes, I laugh it off.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Baruch on August 27, 2017, 07:19:15 AM
Quote from: Munch on August 27, 2017, 05:00:01 AM
The fact she was sent to the principles office in the first place IS the big deal. Its forced gender politics on a child, a simple correction by the teacher should have been enough.

Or maybe its the oversensitive nature of parents and teachers who can't figure a better way to raise kids. When my nephews remark on my weight, I don't get butthurt over it and make them sit on a step for fifteen minutes, I laugh it off.

In US schools, parents are frequently the problem, more than teachers or administrators.  Their little monster can do no wrong.  I have seen teachers fired over this.

Adding ... so Shiranu .. one can see now why you are something of a French revolutionary ;-)
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: SGOS on August 27, 2017, 08:58:05 AM
Quote from: Baruch on August 27, 2017, 07:19:15 AM
In US schools, parents are frequently the problem, more than teachers or administrators.  Their little monster can do no wrong.  I have seen teachers fired over this.
It's not just in school, and certainly not all parents will defend their child's monstrous behavior, but parenting is like any other skill, some are good at it, some aren't, and some never will be.  Some parents are the very reason their child is a monster. 

I don't want to suggest bad parenting is the cause of this particular incident.  I wasn't there, and the only account is from the media, which loves to embellish precisely this kind of event into a major miscarriage of justice.  It's impossible for me to judge the participants, because I don't know what happened, and I can't trust the media to provide all the facts relevant to the situation.  This thing could be a misunderstanding where all parties intended to be respectful, but something happened to escalate a minor misunderstanding into a major misunderstanding, and then the media steps in and things get even more exciting.

Some people build their personal schedule around waiting for a chance to take offense at something, and the media is always there to help.  This gendering thing is pretty new, and most people are unfamiliar with the pronouns and the rules about engaging in a new environment.  There are bound to be some mishaps along the path to social justice.  And there will always be those who refuse to abide by the new protocols.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Drew_2017 on August 29, 2017, 08:11:43 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on August 26, 2017, 10:11:39 PM
I spent over half of my school career at the principals' office, and I can assure you something as small as giving the middle finger to another student can take well over an hour. I wouldn't read into that any more than it is.



In my opinion it's irresponsible for parents to not allow a first grader to express themselves as whatever gender they are.
In my opinion it's irresponsible for parents to allow a first grader to determine what type of food they want to eat.
In my opinion it's irresponsible for parents to allow a first grade to eat what ever type of food they want to eat.
In my opinion it's irresponsible for parents to allow a first grader to play sports where they could get seriously injured.
In my opinion it's irresponsible for parents to allow a first grader to not be involved in sports where they learn team work and have physical exercise.

See, opinions on someone else's first grader mean very little, because all of those sound like absolutely valid arguments. Certainly we can all agree that we shouldn't let first graders do heroine, or murder their siblings, but besides that what is or isn't right to teach a kid is completely subjective to the society you live in.


Fortunately what you say isn't true at least in the USA, children don't have a right to determine for themselves what rules they wish to live by. In fact a parent or school do and should govern child behavior because most of us are going to have to learn how to live in a community with other people. You might want to read 'The Lord of the Flies' to see what happens when authority disappears.   
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Baruch on August 30, 2017, 12:39:56 AM
Quote from: Drew_2017 on August 29, 2017, 08:11:43 PM
Fortunately what you say isn't true at least in the USA, children don't have a right to determine for themselves what rules they wish to live by. In fact a parent or school do and should govern child behavior because most of us are going to have to learn how to live in a community with other people. You might want to read 'The Lord of the Flies' to see what happens when authority disappears.

For the Left, children are yet another oppressed minority, that needs liberation by Castroites.  I will be glad when all civil rights are removed from everyone.  You are not entitled to shit, you aren't the Queen of England.  Then nobody, majority included, can struggle for their imagined rights, and the political vermin can't use that to exploit for votes and paid demonstrators.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Shiranu on August 30, 2017, 07:22:57 AM
Quote from: Drew_2017 on August 29, 2017, 08:11:43 PM
Fortunately what you say isn't true at least in the USA, children don't have a right to determine for themselves what rules they wish to live by. In fact a parent or school do and should govern child behavior because most of us are going to have to learn how to live in a community with other people. You might want to read 'The Lord of the Flies' to see what happens when authority disappears.   


Nothing you said contradicts what I said.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Munch on August 30, 2017, 07:34:10 AM
Yeah its all subjective, except, oh I dunno, giving kids structure through rules so they grow up into stable adults like my mother did for me and my brother, like he does now with his kids
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Baruch on August 30, 2017, 12:35:56 PM
Quote from: Munch on August 30, 2017, 07:34:10 AM
Yeah its all subjective, except, oh I dunno, giving kids structure through rules so they grow up into stable adults like my mother did for me and my brother, like he does now with his kids

That doesn't serve Left Anarchism.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Draconic Aiur on August 30, 2017, 12:54:22 PM
It is stupid for a 1st grader to go to the principals office for misuse of a pronoun, and it stupid for use of a pronoun to get any big reaction. I'm a liberal and I find this shit totally garbage.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Drew_2017 on August 30, 2017, 09:23:01 PM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on August 30, 2017, 12:54:22 PM
It is stupid for a 1st grader to go to the principals office for misuse of a pronoun, and it stupid for use of a pronoun to get any big reaction. I'm a liberal and I find this shit totally garbage.

My oldest brother is a far left leaning guy but he thinks some elements of the left have gone overboard such as banning free speech, extreme PC, identity politics and those who resort to violence or destruction of property. 
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Baruch on August 30, 2017, 11:07:15 PM
Quote from: Drew_2017 on August 30, 2017, 09:23:01 PM
My oldest brother is a far left leaning guy but he thinks some elements of the left have gone overboard such as banning free speech, extreme PC, identity politics and those who resort to violence or destruction of property.

Like the domestic terrorists earlier ... these are cointelpro by the Right ... to justify dictatorship ... to protect us from the Commies.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 01:53:42 AM
Quote from: Baruch on August 30, 2017, 12:35:56 PM
That doesn't serve Left Anarchism.

The "Left Anarchism" is vanishingly pathetic as far as I can tell.  I'm not sure it even exists outside a few clowns.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 07:09:15 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 01:53:42 AM
The "Left Anarchism" is vanishingly pathetic as far as I can tell.  I'm not sure it even exists outside a few clowns.

Armed clowns, serving as rallying points for other alienated people.  Cointelpro bro.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 09:25:45 AM
Quote from: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 07:09:15 AM
Armed clowns, serving as rallying points for other alienated people.  Cointelpro bro.

Well, clowns never scared me.  I never had monsters under the bed or in the closet.  I never even paid attention to the Tooth Fairy (told Mom to stop it at 8).  I just saved my teeth in a cup for my own pleasure.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 01:08:45 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 09:25:45 AM
Well, clowns never scared me.  I never had monsters under the bed or in the closet.  I never even paid attention to the Tooth Fairy (told Mom to stop it at 8).  I just saved my teeth in a cup for my own pleasure.

I can dig that .. I am a clown, and I don't scare myself ;-)  And advertising has never worked on me, particularly on the Internet.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 02:48:47 PM
Quote from: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 01:08:45 PM
I can dig that .. I am a clown, and I don't scare myself ;-)  And advertising has never worked on me, particularly on the Internet.

Oh I LOVE advertising.  It is SO funny.  What worries me is that it must work on most people or they wouldn't waster their money.

Moo!  LOL...
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Jason78 on September 01, 2017, 02:53:01 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on August 26, 2017, 07:59:34 PM
I remember the incident of the reading though, and I do agree that is too young to be discussing sexuality with children.

Do you think that if we keep it quiet the kids will never find out?  It turns out that kids are actually pretty smart and can figure out for themselves that gender is a thing pretty early on. 
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Shiranu on September 01, 2017, 03:09:11 AM
Quote from: Jason78 on September 01, 2017, 02:53:01 AM
Do you think that if we keep it quiet the kids will never find out?  It turns out that kids are actually pretty smart and can figure out for themselves that gender is a thing pretty early on. 

Guess they are smarter than some adults then...

But on a serious note; again, that's not imo a teachers' place to be discussing with a child. Sure, this teacher was teaching them something open-minded and correct... but the majority of teachers in the United States do not share that view point. If we let them start teaching about gender, the majority of teachers are going to either not address it or insist that there are only two with very strict rules governing them.

Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Mike Cl on September 02, 2017, 06:58:00 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 02:48:47 PM
Oh I LOVE advertising.  It is SO funny.  What worries me is that it must work on most people or they wouldn't waster their money.

Moo!  LOL...
Could be Moo..........I tend to think baaa.....................
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Cavebear on September 03, 2017, 11:13:07 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on September 01, 2017, 03:09:11 AM
Guess they are smarter than some adults then...

But on a serious note; again, that's not imo a teachers' place to be discussing with a child. Sure, this teacher was teaching them something open-minded and correct... but the majority of teachers in the United States do not share that view point. If we let them start teaching about gender, the majority of teachers are going to either not address it or insist that there are only two with very strict rules governing them.

I agree.  Gender, sexuality, should start being taught at home.  And rationally.  By Middle School, children ought to have some basic (if unspecific) understanding.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Baruch on September 03, 2017, 11:19:17 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 03, 2017, 11:13:07 PM
I agree.  Gender, sexuality, should start being taught at home.  And rationally.  By Middle School, children ought to have some basic (if unspecific) understanding.

We used to do that, but the parents wouldn't do their damn job!
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Cavebear on September 03, 2017, 11:47:43 PM
Quote from: Baruch on September 03, 2017, 11:19:17 PM
We used to do that, but the parents wouldn't do their damn job!

The failure of parents does mean that someone else must.  So why are the theists so against schools doing it.  They won't do it themselves and won't let anyone else do it.  Who do you suggest?
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 12:23:15 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 03, 2017, 11:47:43 PM
The failure of parents does mean that someone else must.  So why are the theists so against schools doing it.  They won't do it themselves and won't let anyone else do it.  Who do you suggest?

"So why are the theists so against schools doing it." ... never a parent were you, never a theist either.  But I digress ... my kid went to public school, we kept her almost entirely out of parochial school (except for 3 months).  This is because the public schools, as per the Communist Manifesto ... are there to create society killing revolutionaries ... is what religious parents think.  And for Muslim parents in the West, it is to get their Muslim girls pregnant by infidel boys.  But why do you care what religious parents do?  Just kill them, like a good Stalinist, right?

In my case, I never bought into ridiculous conspiracy theories ... except the ones that are actually true.  The worst thing about public school was the poor performance of the school system.  I managed to handle that as a child, my handicapped child could not.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 12:26:10 AM
Quote from: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 12:23:15 AM
In my case, I never bought into ridiculous conspiracy theories ... except the ones that are actually true.  The worst thing about public school was the poor performance of the school system.  I managed to handle that as a child, my handicapped child could not.
Well, who would buy into a conspiracy theory they thought WASN'T true?
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 12:28:27 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 12:26:10 AM
Well, who would buy into a conspiracy theory they thought WASN'T true?

Most.  Conspiracy theory isn't about cognitive validity, it is about emotional validation.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 12:50:03 AM
Quote from: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 12:28:27 AM
Most.  Conspiracy theory isn't about cognitive validity, it is about emotional validation.

You elided the point.  If people KNEW the conspiracy theory was invalid, they wouldn't believe it.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 12:52:13 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 12:50:03 AM
You elided the point.  If people KNEW the conspiracy theory was invalid, they wouldn't believe it.

Knew ... that is the key word, and you even bolded it.  It isn't about knowing, it is about feeling.  There isn't much evidence that NASA faked the Moon landings, but the people who buy into the theory that it was fake, have emotional reasons for feeling that it is true.  One of them is paranoia about your former, and my current employer.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 12:54:37 AM
Quote from: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 12:52:13 AM
Knew ... that is the key word, and you even bolded it.  It isn't about knowing, it is about feeling.  There isn't much evidence that NASA faked the Moon landings, but the people who buy into the theory that it was fake, have emotional reasons for feeling that it is true.  One of them is paranoia about your former, and my current employer.

You are still trying to evade.  They don't believe what they don't believe but do believe what they are told might have happened.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 12:58:06 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 12:54:37 AM
You are still trying to evade.  They don't believe what they don't believe but do believe what they are told might have happened.

And you are engaged in fruitless casuistry ... like any other theologian.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 01:03:37 AM
Quote from: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 12:58:06 AM
And you are engaged in fruitless casuistry ... like any other theologian.

How dare you insult me by calling me  a "theologian"!  I demand a duel of thesausuri at the next eclipse directly over Washington DC!
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Munch on September 04, 2017, 03:25:02 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 01:03:37 AM
How dare you insult me by calling me  a "theologian"!  I demand a duel of thesausuri at the next eclipse directly over Washington DC!

What about I fencing match on top of mount Rushmore
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 04:24:38 AM
Quote from: Munch on September 04, 2017, 03:25:02 AM
What about I fencing match on top of mount Rushmore
A fencing match at Rushmore.  A la Family Guy?  Been done.  Besides, who wants to fall out a nostril?
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 07:13:35 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 04:24:38 AM
A fencing match at Rushmore.  A la Family Guy?  Been done.  Besides, who wants to fall out a nostril?

More like North by Northwest ... Cave bear's philosophy test proves I am a Marxist ;-)
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 09:52:35 AM
Quote from: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 07:13:35 AM
More like North by Northwest ... Cave bear's philosophy test proves I am a Marxist ;-)

A theistic marxist, anyway.  Do you think not?  (and you will)
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 11:09:23 AM
I prefer the third alternative ...

National Treasure 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xETUj1j8TmQ

American history as conspiracy ;-))

Gold in them thar hills ... Aztec gold behind Mt Rushmore.

I liked National Treasure 1 ... because I am connected to a very old secret society ... Freemasonry.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 11:46:07 AM
Quote from: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 11:09:23 AM
I prefer the third alternative ...

National Treasure 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xETUj1j8TmQ

American history as conspiracy ;-))

Gold in them thar hills ... Aztec gold behind Mt Rushmore.

I liked National Treasure 1 ... because I am connected to a very old secret society ... Freemasonry.

See?  I said you would think not.  And you didn't...  LOL!
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 01:20:36 PM
Like Obama the Magnificent ... you can't follow my 11-dimensional chess ;-)
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 02:36:06 AM
Quote from: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 01:20:36 PM
Like Obama the Magnificent ... you can't follow my 11-dimensional chess ;-)

You want to try even 3 dimensional chess with me?
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Baruch on September 07, 2017, 07:09:00 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 02:36:06 AM
You want to try even 3 dimensional chess with me?

I am smart enough to not need to - Spock
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 07:55:45 AM
Quote from: Baruch on September 07, 2017, 07:09:00 AM
I am smart enough to not need to - Spock

IIRC, Spock's move in that episode made little sense.  Just saying I think I might have possibly read that somewhere.  And what better evidence is there than THAT?  D Trump.
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Baruch on September 07, 2017, 12:46:52 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 07:55:45 AM
IIRC, Spock's move in that episode made little sense.  Just saying I think I might have possibly read that somewhere.  And what better evidence is there than THAT?  D Trump.

Double entendre ... two Spocks implied ;-)
Title: Re: First grader sent to office for 'misgendering' fellow student
Post by: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 03:14:19 PM
Quote from: Baruch on September 07, 2017, 12:46:52 PM
Double entendre ... two Spocks implied ;-)

There have been 2 Spocks in several situations.  In fact nearly every Trekker has been doubled at some point.  However, please not let there be 2 Trumps.