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Title: Chess Thread II
Post by: Unbeliever on August 25, 2017, 04:37:27 PM
There was a chess thread a few years ago that didn't go anywhere of interest, so I thought maybe we could try again.

I know some of you play chess. Do any of you players record your games? If so, I'm hoping you'll post some of your better ones here so that we can enjoy them.

I'll start by posting one of the games I played this past summer with a fellow named Dave, who can usually give me a bit of a challenge. Not in this game, though - I managed to trap his Queen after only 14 moves!

I was playing the white pieces:

1. d4........d5
2. c4........e6
3. Nc3......Nf6
4. Nf3......c5
5. Bf4......Be7
6. e3.......0-0
7. cd5......ed5
8. dc5......Bc5
9. Rc1......Bb4
10. a3......Ba5
11. b4......Bb6
12. Na4....Be6
13. Nb6....Qb6
14. Bc7.....resigns

I guess on move 13 he didn't want to double his pawns on the b file, as I thought he'd have to do. I was planning to move my Rook to the 7th rank afterwards, but when he recaptured with the Queen I saw that I could trap it. It's usually not easy to trap a Queen on such an open board, so I felt pretty good about it.

I wish I still had all the other games I've recorded over the years, but didn't manage to keep up with them. I have a few of the ones I played recently, though, so I'll see if any more of them are worth posting.

I hope some of you will post some of your's, as well.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Sorginak on August 25, 2017, 04:47:59 PM
Lol, I thought this said "Cheese Thread".  xD
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Unbeliever on August 25, 2017, 04:53:19 PM
I wish I had time to play some games here, but right now I don't. Hopefully I will eventually manage that, I'd like to see if I can find a good challenging game here. I know there are some players that I'd enjoy having a go at.

I don't focus much on losing and winning at chess - I look at it as two people cooperating to create something beautiful. Although winning is fun...
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Mr.Obvious on August 25, 2017, 06:07:10 PM
You'll probably kick my ass, but if you ever want to play a game and see me online, let me know.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on August 25, 2017, 07:33:59 PM
I've tried learning Chess a few times, but I keep losing interest after about a week. By "learn" I mean memorizing the best opening moves, thinking a few moves ahead, etc.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Unbeliever on August 25, 2017, 08:15:18 PM
You'll probably kick my ass, but if you ever want to play a game and see me online, let me know.
It's not always easy for me to predict exactly when I'll be on-line, but if we could set up a specific time, we could give it a try. I have very few people to play with, that are any good, so I'd love to have a go with you if it can be worked out. I probably won't be back at the library until monday. I can post here, where i'm at now, but I can only be on-line for a few minutes at a time. At the library I can be on for about 4 hours, which would be more than enough time for a good game.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Unbeliever on August 25, 2017, 08:24:40 PM
I've tried learning Chess a few times, but I keep losing interest after about a week. By "learn" I mean memorizing the best opening moves, thinking a few moves ahead, etc.
Learning chess isn't easy - I've bene at it for about 40 years or so, and I still haven't learned nearly as much as I'd like.

Try to find a good book on the game, if you can. The only way I was ever able to really start learning the game (I lost the first couple of hundred games I played) was to study the masters from the past.

A very good book on openings is "The Ideas Behind the Chess Openings"  ( I think by Ruben Fine) if you can find a copy of it. But the openings are only a very small part of the game - once you've learned the general principles, you can proceed without memorizing all those variations. I have a really lousy memory, so I realized early on that I wouldn't improve by rote memorization.

There are a lot of really good chess books these days, so if you want you can browse your local used book store and find many. Also, there are good videos on-line that may help.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 12:06:07 AM
I've tried learning Chess a few times, but I keep losing interest after about a week. By "learn" I mean memorizing the best opening moves, thinking a few moves ahead, etc.

Memorizing a few dozen famous openings ... not worth it.  Learning to see 2 or 3 moves ahead ... priceless.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 03:39:43 AM
There was a chess thread a few years ago that didn't go anywhere of interest, so I thought maybe we could try again.

I know some of you play chess. Do any of you players record your games? If so, I'm hoping you'll post some of your better ones here so that we can enjoy them.

I'll start by posting one of the games I played this past summer with a fellow named Dave, who can usually give me a bit of a challenge. Not in this game, though - I managed to trap his Queen after only 14 moves!

I was playing the white pieces:

1. d4........d5
2. c4........e6
3. Nc3......Nf6
4. Nf3......c5
5. Bf4......Be7
6. e3.......0-0
7. cd5......ed5
8. dc5......Bc5
9. Rc1......Bb4
10. a3......Ba5
11. b4......Bb6
12. Na4....Be6
13. Bb6....Qb6
14. Bc7.....resigns

I guess on move 13 he didn't want to double his pawns on the b file, as I thought he'd have to do. I was planning to move my Rook to the 7th rank afterwards, but when he recaptured with the Queen I saw that I could trap it. It's usually not easy to trap a Queen on such an open board, so I felt pretty good about it.

I wish I still had all the other games I've recorded over the years, but didn't manage to keep up with them. I have a few of the ones I played recently, though, so I'll see if any more of them are worth posting.

I hope some of you will post some of your's, as well.
  I can't make your game work.  There is no 7...  ed5.  Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 04:16:59 AM
But here is one of mine from last year...

1.  h2-h3      e7e5
2.  Nb1-c3    d7-d5
3.  Ng1-f3     Nb8-c6
4.  g2-g4      e5-e4
5.  Nf3-h4     d5-d4
6.  Nc3xd4    Qd8xh4
7.  d2-d3       Bc8xg4
8.  Bc1-f4      Bg4xh3
9.  Bf4xc7      Bf8 - b4+
10. c2-c3       Bb4xc3+
11. b2xb3      Ra8-c8
12. Ne4-d6+  Ke8-f8
13. Qd1-b3    Rc8xc7
14. Rh1xh3    Qh4-e7
15. Nd6-f5     Qe7-c5
16. Bf1-g2      Qc5xf5
17. Bg3xc6     Rc7xc6
18. Rh3-f3      Qf5-a5
19. Qb3Xf7 Mate
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Unbeliever on August 26, 2017, 01:53:27 PM
  I can't make your game work.  There is no 7...  ed5.  Am I missing something?
There's a pawn on d6 capturing a pawn on d5.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Unbeliever on August 26, 2017, 02:24:52 PM
But here is one of mine from last year...

1.  h2-h3      e7e5
2.  Nb1-c3    d7-d5
3.  Ng1-f3     Nb8-c6
4.  g2-g4      e5-e4
5.  Nf3-h4     d5-d4
6.  Nc3xd4    Qd8xh4
7.  d2-d3       Bc8xg4
8.  Bc1-f4      Bg4xh3
9.  Bf4xc7      Bf8 - b4+
10. c2-c3       Bb4xc3+
11. b2xb3      Ra8-c8
12. Ne4-d6+  Ke8-f8
13. Qd1-b3    Rc8xc7
14. Rh1xh3    Qh4-e7
15. Nd6-f5     Qe7-c5
16. Bf1-g2      Qc5xf5
17. Bg3xc6     Rc7xc6
18. Rh3-f3      Qf5-a5
19. Qb3Xf7 Mate


I think you intended the 6th move by white to be Nxe4, didn't you, since the knight can't get from c3 to d4., and given that the knight later moves to d6.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 02:33:13 PM
There's a pawn on d6 capturing a pawn on d5.

Oh, you meant 13. Nb6 not B

I'm of the old positional notation.  The newer algebraic notation gives me fits.  I had to write the letters and numbers on a board to play postal and online.  But you got it wrong on 13.  And I see how the Q is trapped.  Nice game, bad notation.

I remember Bobby Fisher's P-K4 "Best By Test", LOL.  But get the moves right.  You drove me crazy for an hour til I figured out what the right move HAD to be.

And yeah I messed on 7.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Unbeliever on August 26, 2017, 03:20:18 PM
Oh, you meant 13. Nb6 not B

I'm of the old positional notation.  The newer algebraic notation gives me fits.  I had to write the letters and numbers on a board to play postal and online.  But you got it wrong on 13.  And I see how the Q is trapped.  Nice game, bad notation.

I remember Bobby Fisher's P-K4 "Best By Test", LOL.  But get the moves right.  You drove me crazy for an hour til I figured out what the right move HAD to be.

And yeah I messed on 7.
Ach, you're right laddie! I fixed it. I'll be sure to be more careful next time.

I used the descriptive notation for a long time, but the algebraic is a bit easier for me to use now that I've gotten used to it.

Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 05:28:58 PM
Ach, you're right laddie! I fixed it. I'll be sure to be more careful next time.

I used the descriptive notation for a long time, but the algebraic is a bit easier for me to use now that I've gotten used to it.

Glad I solved it and you fixed it.  It was a pleasure to replay your game afterwards.  That Q trap was beautiful!

I even looked at it as black (nothing better than seeing both sides) and I didn't see it coming.

I'm mostly English as White and Sicilian as Black.  I'm not a positional player, LOL!
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Unbeliever on August 27, 2017, 05:32:13 PM
I didn't see it coming either, since I thought he'd recapture with the a pawn, doubling pawns on the b file and giving me a strategic target with the weakened pawns. Then I was going to put my rook on the 7th rank, which is where rooks like to be - then they're called "pigs" because they can eat up a lot of the unmoved pawns or get behind any that have moved and gobble them up. Two rooks on the 7th are called a "hog", for similar reasons.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Unbeliever on August 29, 2017, 05:48:24 PM
Here's another game, in which I'm playing the white side, again against Dave. It had an interesting finish where I sacrificed two minor pieces and managed to get a forced mate.



1. c4......e6
2. Nc3....Nf6
3. d4......d5
4. Nf3.....c6
5. Bf4.....dc4
6. e4......Bb4
7. a3......Bc3
8. bc3.....Ne4
9. Qc2.....Nd6
10. Bd6...Qd6
11. Bc4....0-0
12. 0-0....Nd7
13. Rfe1....Nf6
14. Ne5....Nd7
15. Rab1...b5
16. Bd3.....g6
17. Ng6.....fg6
18. Bg6.....hg6
19. Qg6+...Kh8
20. Re3......Rf6
21. Rh3 mate
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 02:39:03 AM
Here's another game, in which I'm playing the white side, again against Dave. It had an interesting finish where I sacrificed two minor pieces and managed to get a forced mate.



1. c4......e6
2. Nc3....Nf6
3. d4......d5
4. Nf3.....c6
5. Bf4.....dc4
6. e4......Bb4
7. a3......Bc3
8. bc3.....Ne4
9. Qc2.....Nd6
10. Bd6...Qd6
11. Bc4....0-0
12. 0-0....Nd7
13. Re1....Nf6
14. Ne5....Nd7
15. Rab1...b5
16. Bd3.....g6
17. Ng6.....fg6
18. Bg6.....hg6
19. Qg6+...Kh8
20. Re3......Rf6
21. Rh3 mate

13.  Re1 is uncertain.  Both W rooks can move there.  This is a typical problem in algebraic notation.  Positional notation cannot make this error.  Please correct the notation so that I can follow your game (and I want to).
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 02:41:44 AM
You have gotten the 2 games you posted wrong.  If you get one right, I may play you.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: trdsf on August 31, 2017, 11:32:47 AM
Chess is a game which I have always wanted to play well, but I just don't have the ability to see more than half a move ahead.  I find it fascinating, but I can't wedge it into my head what makes one move brilliant and another move merely a move.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 11:41:51 AM
Chess is a game which I have always wanted to play well, but I just don't have the ability to see more than half a move ahead.  I find it fascinating, but I can't wedge it into my head what makes one move brilliant and another move merely a move.

It's hard and burns my brain to play sometimes.  When I was 20, I earned a trophy in an open tourney beating better players.  The next week in another tourney, I fell for a fool's mate.  I was all worn out.  But then there are sometimes the great moments when you sometimes see a series of moves the opponent can't parry and you feel like you actually understand the game.

And then the next game you are as dumb as a brick.

Chess is a humbling experience.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Unbeliever on August 31, 2017, 12:05:34 PM
13.  Re1 is uncertain.  Both W rooks can move there.  This is a typical problem in algebraic notation.  Positional notation cannot make this error.  Please correct the notation so that I can follow your game (and I want to).
You're right again! Sorry about that. That's what I get for posting the moves without having a board in front of me and checking them as I go. I will from now on.

The 13th move is Rfe1.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 01:35:14 PM
You're right again! Sorry about that. That's what I get for posting the moves without having a board in front of me and checking them as I go. I will from now on.

The 13th move is Rfe1.
Whew!  I was sure I was doing the moves wrong this time.  It is easy to get algebraic wrong and I have done that often.  To this day, I have to record my moves positionally.  I admit algebraic is more logically efficient, but I can't read it and picture the board.  With positional notation, I can.

I got it right on the 4th try, forcing myself to count the board on every move....  LOL!  Had to print out your moves and putting the paper right at the board!  Finally got it right that way. 

Saw the mate then coming at 16...  Nice game.

I have neat chess set - Medieval White and Brown pieces.  I have the chess set in the middle of the room so I can walk around it at look at the positions from all directions.  I used to have a larger weighted set on a homemade board but it "mysteriously disappeared" as some apartment roommates left.   I should build another board.

I haven't played a real person slow game in years and suck at computer chess (too fast).  I miss psyching my opponent.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Unbeliever on August 31, 2017, 01:39:20 PM
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Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 01:53:07 PM
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Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Unbeliever on August 31, 2017, 02:04:50 PM
I have one of those vinyl boards with the letters across the top/bottom and the numbers along the sides. I can use descriptive notation too, so next time I'll post both notations, if it's easier for you.

Mine looks like this:


(http://www.taichungchess.com/uploads/5/5/4/4/5544311/361041_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 02:16:15 PM
I have one of those vinyl boards with the letters across the top/bottom and the numbers along the sides. I can use descriptive notation too, so next time I'll post both notations, if it's easier for you.

Mine looks like this:


(http://www.taichungchess.com/uploads/5/5/4/4/5544311/361041_orig.jpg)

That settles it.  New board, notations on the frame!
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 09:52:30 PM
Will never have the time.  But I still have my miniature board made of semiprecious stone, with similar pieces, from India.  Home of the game.  The rooks should be elephants.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 01:20:07 AM
Will never have the time.  But I still have my miniature board made of semiprecious stone, with similar pieces, from India.  Home of the game.  The rooks should be elephants.

Yeah, yeah, and the board was half the pieces, there were 4 players, the K was more powerful etc.  Do you think I don't know that stuff? 

And I wasn't offerring to play you.  Someone who knows the game.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Baruch on September 04, 2017, 11:24:49 AM
Yeah, yeah, and the board was half the pieces, there were 4 players, the K was more powerful etc.  Do you think I don't know that stuff? 

And I wasn't offerring to play you.  Someone who knows the game.

That's OK, I was just wanting to learn the notation and follow other people's games.  But I keep having to spend all my time posting here ;-)

So if you will put one grain of rice on the first square, two on the next square and double each time until we get to the 64th square ...

Oh I know, you are European, so you will get mad, overturn King Offa's chess board, and lose your head
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 11:39:19 AM
That's OK, I was just wanting to learn the notation and follow other people's games.  But I keep having to spend all my time posting here ;-)

So if you will put one grain of rice on the first square, two on the next square and double each time until we get to the 64th square ...

Oh I know, you are European, so you will get mad, overturn King Offa's chess board, and lose your head

That is SUCH an old trick.  You don't even have to really know maths to catch that one.

But I'll talk about notation and games if you want.  Always a friend to chess players...
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Unbeliever on September 05, 2017, 01:57:00 PM
When I write my games down I always use a check mark

(https://d30y9cdsu7xlg0.cloudfront.net/png/32500-200.png)

to indicate when a player is in check. I don't know why it isn't used by everyone, but I seem to be the only one who's ever thought of it.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: trdsf on September 05, 2017, 03:48:30 PM
When I write my games down I always use a check mark

(https://d30y9cdsu7xlg0.cloudfront.net/png/32500-200.png)

to indicate when a player is in check. I don't know why it isn't used by everyone, but I seem to be the only one who's ever thought of it.
If I had to make a guess, I'd think the + was chosen definitively over the ✓ probably after the advent of the typewriter because the + is (or at least became) standard on the keyboard and the ✓ wasn't and isn't.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Unbeliever on September 05, 2017, 03:52:13 PM
That sounds reasonable. Why no check mark on the keyboard, though? I guess they had to pick and choose, since there was only so much room.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Baruch on September 05, 2017, 07:40:21 PM
That sounds reasonable. Why no check mark on the keyboard, though? I guess they had to pick and choose, since there was only so much room.

No problem in recent times.  Unlimited typefaces, a large number of possible characters, but only on compatible computers.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Unbeliever on September 06, 2017, 10:23:08 AM
I found a local coffee shop to play chess in. I played a couple yesterday - won one, lost one. The one I lost was more interesting than the one I won, so I'll post it later today, when I get to the library.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: trdsf on September 06, 2017, 11:49:44 AM
That sounds reasonable. Why no check mark on the keyboard, though? I guess they had to pick and choose, since there was only so much room.
And the plus sign has many more uses than the check mark.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Unbeliever on September 06, 2017, 02:20:48 PM
OK, I checked all the moves (thrice!), and I'm pretty sure they're all correct. I played the white pieces against a fellow named Rick. I lost an exchange about halfway through, but was holding my own for a while, until I missed his 39th move with his Bishop to b6, which forced resignation, since I'd have lost at least a piece. Even though I lost this game it was still a pretty interesting game, especially the final position. This time I posted some comments, too. I hope y'all don't mind.


1. d4......Nf6
2. c4......g6
3. Nc3....Bg7
4. e4......d6

Rick has allowed me to build a strong center, which he intends to undermine if he can. This style of play is called hypermodern.

5. Nf3.....0-0
6. Bd3.....Bg4
7. h3.......Bf3
8. Qf3

I was a bit surprised that he was willing to exchange his good Bishop, since his bad Bishop is likely to be locked in for a while, but which turned out to be the piece he won with.

8.............Nbd7
9. Be3......e5

He's beginning to try to attack my center.

10. d5

In order to keep the long diagonal closed to his Bishop.

10...........c6
11. b4

To keep his d7 Knight from c5.

11............cd
12. cd.......Rc8

Posting his Rook on the open file, as he should.

13. Rc1

Can't let him control the file.

13............Nb6
14. 0-0

In order to connect the Rooks.

14............Nc4
15. Bc4.....Rc4
16. Ba7.....Rb4

I'd thought he might try moving his b-pawn to b6, to try to trap my Bishop, then move his Queen to a8 to win it. But I would've stymied that by Qe3 after the pawn move, so if he played Qa8 I could just take the pawn with my Bishop.

17. Rc2

To control b2, where I definitely don't want his Rook to move.

17............Nd7
18. Be3

Now trapping my Bishop was a real threat, so I just brought it back out of danger.

18............f5
19. Rfc1....f4
20. Bd2.....Nb6
21. Qd3.....Rd4
22. Qb5.....Nc4!

Here I should've played my Knight to b1 to protect the Bishop and the square a3, and would also have threatened his Knight (with my Rooks), but I wasn't looking closely enough, so I lost the coming exchange.

23. Be1.....Na3!
24. Qb7

Might as well get what I can.

24.............Nc2
25. Rc2......Rf7
26. Qb3.....Rc7
27. Ne2.....Rd1
28. Kf1......f3
29. gf........Qh4
30. Ng1.....Rc2
31. Qc2.....Rd4
32. Qc8+...Bf8
33. Qe6+...Kg7
34. Ke2.....Qe7
35. Qe7.....Be7
36. a3

So I could protect my Bishop which I wanted to put on b4.

36............Bd8
37. Bb4.....Bc7
38. Ke3??

This was a terrible move. I should have kept my King off the dark squares that his Bishop travels on. But I needed a square for my Knight, so I should've played Ke1. I also wanted to move my f-pawn to f4 to try to trade one of my doubled pawns. Plus, I wanted to get my King in the center, which is normally a good place for it in the endgame...but not this time.

38............Rd1
39. Ne2.....Bb6+
40. Resigns

I can only interpose the Knight (or Bishop) and must lose at least a piece, so resignation was clearly justified.


All in all I thought I played fairly well, but I have done better. I like playing against strong opponents, since it's more challenging. I often move too fast, before I've really seen as deeply into the position as I should.

I could post the game I won yesterday, but my opponent was not as strong as Rick, and the game was too easy, not all that interesting.

Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 02:56:33 AM
OK, I checked all the moves (thrice!), and I'm pretty sure they're all correct. I played the white pieces against a fellow named Rick. I lost an exchange about halfway through, but was holding my own for a while, until I missed his 39th move with his Bishop to b6, which forced resignation, since I'd have lost at least a piece. Even though I lost this game it was still a pretty interesting game, especially the final position. This time I posted some comments, too. I hope y'all don't mind.


1. d4......Nf6
2. c4......g6
3. Nc3....Bg7
4. e4......d6

Rick has allowed me to build a strong center, which he intends to undermine if he can. This style of play is called hypermodern.

5. Nf3.....0-0
6. Bd3.....Bg4
7. h3.......Bf3
8. Qf3

I was a bit surprised that he was willing to exchange his good Bishop, since his bad Bishop is likely to be locked in for a while, but which turned out to be the piece he won with.

8.............Nbd7
9. Be3......e5

He's beginning to try to attack my center.

10. d5

In order to keep the long diagonal closed to his Bishop.

10...........c6
11. b4

To keep his d7 Knight from c5.

11............cd
12. cd.......Rc8

Posting his Rook on the open file, as he should.

13. Rc1

Can't let him control the file.

13............Nb6
14. 0-0

In order to connect the Rooks.

14............Nc4
15. Bc4.....Rc4
16. Ba7.....Rb4

I'd thought he might try moving his b-pawn to b6, to try to trap my Bishop, then move his Queen to a8 to win it. But I would've stymied that by Qe3 after the pawn move, so if he played Qa8 I could just take the pawn with my Bishop.

17. Rc2

To control b2, where I definitely don't want his Rook to move.

17............Nd7
18. Be3

Now trapping my Bishop was a real threat, so I just brought it back out of danger.

18............f5
19. Rfc1....f4
20. Bd2.....Nb6
21. Qd3.....Rd4
22. Qb5.....Nc4!

Here I should've played my Knight to b1 to protect the Bishop and the square a3, and would also have threatened his Knight (with my Rooks), but I wasn't looking closely enough, so I lost the coming exchange.

23. Be1.....Na3!
24. Qb7

Might as well get what I can.

24.............Nc2
25. Rc2......Rf7
26. Qb3.....Rc7
27. Ne2.....Rd1
28. Kf1......f3
29. gf........Qh4
30. Ng1.....Rc2
31. Qc2.....Rd4
32. Qc8+...Bf8
33. Qe6+...Kg7
34. Ke2.....Qe7
35. Qe7.....Be7
36. a3

So I could protect my Bishop which I wanted to put on b4.

36............Bd8
37. Bb4.....Bc7
38. Ke3??

This was a terrible move. I should have kept my King off the dark squares that his Bishop travels on. But I needed a square for my Knight, so I should've played Ke1. I also wanted to move my f-pawn to f4 to try to trade one of my doubled pawns. Plus, I wanted to get my King in the center, which is normally a good place for it in the endgame...but not this time.

38............Rd1
39. Ne2.....Bb6+
40. Resigns

I can only interpose the Knight (or Bishop) and must lose at least a piece, so resignation was clearly justified.


All in all I thought I played fairly well, but I have done better. I like playing against strong opponents, since it's more challenging. I often move too fast, before I've really seen as deeply into the position as I should.

I could post the game I won yesterday, but my opponent was not as strong as Rick, and the game was too easy, not all that interesting.

OK, playing the game, noting you comments.  Be back soon.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 03:41:18 AM
29. gf... doesn't make sense.  Sorry. 

Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 04:52:08 AM
When I write my games down I always use a check mark

(https://d30y9cdsu7xlg0.cloudfront.net/png/32500-200.png)

to indicate when a player is in check. I don't know why it isn't used by everyone, but I seem to be the only one who's ever thought of it.

+ sign is standard, but I would sure know a check symbol...
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Unbeliever on September 07, 2017, 10:47:23 AM
29. gf... doesn't make sense.  Sorry. 


That's the g-pawn capturing on the f-file.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 03:25:27 PM
That's the g-pawn capturing on the f-file.

Damn, I'm going to have to replay the game again.  I don't have that move possible.  Are you SURE?  Your 0-2 on moves... 
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Unbeliever on September 07, 2017, 03:32:44 PM
Black's 28th move was to move his f-pawn to f3, threatening my Knight, and I captured it (the f-pawn) with my g2 pawn.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 03:35:14 PM
Black's 28th move was to move his f-pawn to f3, threatening my Knight, and I captured it (the f-pawn) with my g2 pawn.

Ok. let me replay it.  I must have messed up a move.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 04:01:40 PM
Ok. let me replay it.  I must have messed up a move.

OK, got it.  I messed up move 19.   Tough game.  And I was assuming you would win, so I erred the move in that direction. 
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on September 11, 2017, 04:23:44 AM
Algebraic notation still drives me nuts.  Positional is almost never wrong.  Can you notate positionally?

Want to play a game?


Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Sal1981 on September 11, 2017, 04:29:00 AM
I recommend https://lichess.org/

Easy to set up a new game and requires no registration. You can make an account, but that's only for keeping a score and saved games.

EDIT: btw, just click the "Play with a friend" link on the right panel, and click which side you want to play, you will be given a link you can share with your friend so they can jump right into play.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on September 11, 2017, 04:43:39 AM
I recommend https://lichess.org/

Easy to set up a new game and requires no registration. You can make an account, but that's only for keeping a score and saved games.

EDIT: btw, just click the "Play with a friend" link on the right panel, and click which side you want to play, you will be given a link you can share with your friend so they can jump right into play.

I've done that at sites.  The only way to enjoy the game is with someone you know and personal.  Onsite games don't have the "game" about them face to face. 
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Sal1981 on September 11, 2017, 06:10:18 AM
http://www.chess.com is more popular, but lichess is much better, IMO.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Cavebear on September 11, 2017, 06:21:35 AM
http://www.chess.com is more popular, but lichess is much better, IMO.

I meant here.
Title: Re: Chess Thread II
Post by: Sal1981 on September 11, 2017, 06:27:38 AM
Well, since being physically present is an unlikely option, gaming sites like lichess is an alternative.