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Title: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Baruch on August 22, 2017, 07:27:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8M2tg2RkIQ

So how do you like today's colleges?  Like the 60s, but with better technology.  And recreational or medical weed, legal in some areas.  Now on to group sex and new strains of STD!
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Gilgamesh on August 22, 2017, 07:56:15 AM
Colleges? You mean marxist indoctrination camp?
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Baruch on August 22, 2017, 01:04:39 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 22, 2017, 07:56:15 AM
Colleges? You mean marxist indoctrination camp?

Unchanged ... trapped in a time capsule, put into a new dorm cornerstone, back in 1965 at Berkeley, right?
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Shiranu on August 22, 2017, 07:11:07 PM
QuoteNow on to group sex...

Shit, I'de be happy with just sex sex...
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Sorginak on August 22, 2017, 07:39:56 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on August 22, 2017, 07:11:07 PM
Shit, I'de be happy with just sex sex...

I've always just been happy with my hand.
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Mike Cl on August 22, 2017, 07:53:23 PM
Quote from: Sorginak on August 22, 2017, 07:39:56 PM
I've always just been happy with my hand.
Yeah, five fingered Mary is hard to beat--so to speak.
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 02:40:16 AM
Quote from: Baruch on August 22, 2017, 01:04:39 PM
Unchanged ... trapped in a time capsule, put into a new dorm cornerstone, back in 1965 at Berkeley, right?

Is that like the singing frog from a stone time-capsule?
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 08:24:03 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 02:40:16 AM
Is that like the singing frog from a stone time-capsule?

You remember!  Yes, we have both seen it, and can't forget it.
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 08:24:03 AM
You remember!  Yes, we have both seen it, and can't forget it.

You know why I dislike you sometimes?  We are too similar.

It took me 67 years to realize that my worst nightmare would be to meet myself... 

So, tell us.  Who ARE you (as an individual, no names or such) actually anyway?  You go first, I'll follow...
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 11:23:59 AM
You know why I dislike you sometimes?  We are too similar.

It took me 67 years to realize that my worst nightmare would be to meet myself... 

So, tell us.  Who ARE you (as an individual, no names or such) actually anyway?  You go first, I'll follow...

Read all 15000 posts of mine, in context, starting with my intro post 2.5 years ago ;-))

The philosophy & rhetoric section is appropriate.  And yes, I agree we are similar, yet refreshingly tart (no, not that kind of tart).
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 03:17:30 PM
Personality Inventory:

1. Compulsive reader; mostly languages, history and religion presently.  Technology and science in the past.
2. Military medical IT contractor.  Previously private sector programmer and government aerospace contractor (electrical).
3. Just short of retirement, divided on when, because i love my work, but I am wearing out.
4. Why do I love my work?  I love the young people (Platonically) I work with.  Technology is ... meh.
5. I like dogs, but love cats ... other animals are cool, but not as pets.
6. Divorced parent with adult daughter (who I get to worry about and support for the rest of my life).
7. Hate politics and politicians ... but OK with government workers and military.  Politics is like sausage making or candy making.  I worked on cleanup crew a short while at Jolly Rancher.  You don't want to know ... at least they didn't make chocolates!  View real politics to be cross between abattoir and GoT.
8. Find human beings worrisome, but indispensable and will err on side of positive outlook.  Curmudgeon is part of my aging profile.
9. Anthropomorphic theist ... but not conventionally.  Heretic mystic who crosses all boundaries.  Leaning Jewish culturally, but Western essentially.
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 04:41:56 PM
Quote from: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 03:00:36 PM
Read all 15000 posts of mine, in context, starting with my intro post 2.5 years ago ;-))

The philosophy & rhetoric section is appropriate.  And yes, I agree we are similar, yet refreshingly tart (no, not that kind of tart).

Surely you don't think that ANY of your posts ever say anything about "Baruch" yourself!  That's like trying to see the far side of the moon with a ground-based telescope...
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 05:06:50 PM
Quote from: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 03:17:30 PM
Personality Inventory:

1. Compulsive reader; mostly languages, history and religion presently.  Technology and science in the past.
2. Military medical IT contractor.  Previously private sector programmer and government aerospace contractor (electrical).
3. Just short of retirement, divided on when, because i love my work, but I am wearing out.
4. Why do I love my work?  I love the young people (Platonically) I work with.  Technology is ... meh.
5. I like dogs, but love cats ... other animals are cool, but not as pets.
6. Divorced parent with adult daughter (who I get to worry about and support for the rest of my life).
7. Hate politics and politicians ... but OK with government workers and military.  Politics is like sausage making or candy making.  I worked on cleanup crew a short while at Jolly Rancher.  You don't want to know ... at least they didn't make chocolates!  View real politics to be cross between abattoir and GoT.
8. Find human beings worrisome, but indispensable and will err on side of positive outlook.  Curmudgeon is part of my aging profile.
9. Anthropomorphic theist ... but not conventionally.  Heretic mystic who crosses all boundaries.  Leaning Jewish culturally, but Western essentially.

That's more like it...

My turn.

1.  Compulsive reader, history, science, nature, evolution, archeology, some linguistics,  Have 120 shelf feet of sci fi  also.
2.  Voice Telecommunications manager for a Federal agency for 20 years, retired.   When I retired, they replaced me with 3 full time employees.
3.  I loved my work and busted some problems no one else could.  But I retired the day I was eligible.
4.  Love cats.  Blog about my cats.  Can't imagine not having cats (3 max) around.  Don't like dogs.
5.  Single all my life.  Learned I don't share space well.  And while I think my genenes are gret, there are enough other people in the world.
6.  Hate politicians but love politics in the sense of making things work regardless of idealogy.  My motto would be "If it works, it works".
7.  Utterly dedicated atheist from Boy scout years onward.  Life Member American Atheists since 1986.  It was cheaper that way.
8.  Organic and heirloom gardener.
9.  Rough woodworker. Fence, toolshed, deck...  If I can put a screw into it, that's my project.
10.  Stir fryer and breadmaker. 
11.  Physically a Loner, but driven to communicate.
12.  Short story writer when the mood hits.  It all comes out at once or nothing. 
13.  Real Boy Scout except for the religious part.  Helpful, kind, brave, clean, etc.  Spent 6 weeks in a sleeping bag once.
14.  Learn any skill to basic competence then get bored.  Shelf-full of weird trophies and not for "participation".
15.  Plan to die peacefully...

Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 06:50:28 PM
So I have gathered ...

"Spent 6 weeks in a sleeping bag once." ... took that long for the pissed off scouts to let you out of the bag? ;-))
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Mike Cl on August 26, 2017, 06:59:09 PM
I spent two weeks living out of a sleeping bag once, too.  It was during my National Guard two weeks training--close to Barstow, CA, which is close to Death Valley.  No, I did not re-up.
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 07:05:31 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on August 26, 2017, 06:59:09 PM
I spent two weeks living out of a sleeping bag once, too.  It was during my National Guard two weeks training--close to Barstow, CA, which is close to Death Valley.  No, I did not re-up.

Yes, I hear Fort Irwin is hot stuff.  That is where Patton trained his men in 1942, before going to N Africa.
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 07:12:35 PM
Quote from: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 06:50:28 PM
So I have gathered ...

"Spent 6 weeks in a sleeping bag once." ... took that long for the pissed off scouts to let you out of the bag? ;-))

I could joke that the girl scouts wouldn't let me out, but I won't.
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 07:22:49 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 07:12:35 PM
I could joke that the girl scouts wouldn't let me out, but I won't.

They couldn't ... she was in the bag with you, right?
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Mike Cl on August 26, 2017, 08:45:39 PM
Quote from: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 07:05:31 PM
Yes, I hear Fort Irwin is hot stuff.  That is where Patton trained his men in 1942, before going to N Africa.
It may be.  But we were NG and the Reg. Army commander would not allow us on post, except to go through if we must to get to a particular training ground.  No shower for two weeks and sleeping bags to sleep.  If that bag had been mine I'd have burned it after those two weeks.
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 03:33:49 AM
Quote from: Mike Cl on August 26, 2017, 08:45:39 PM
It may be.  But we were NG and the Reg. Army commander would not allow us on post, except to go through if we must to get to a particular training ground.  No shower for two weeks and sleeping bags to sleep.  If that bag had been mine I'd have burned it after those two weeks.

No, you open the sleeping bag and expose it to the campfire.  That kills the lice and fleas.  Warms it up nicely in cold weather too.
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Mike Cl on August 31, 2017, 06:54:42 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 03:33:49 AM
No, you open the sleeping bag and expose it to the campfire.  That kills the lice and fleas.  Warms it up nicely in cold weather too.
What campfire???  This was NG training, not a camping trip. We lived mainly on MRE's (which aren't bad, really--much better than C rations)--only had 3/4 hots the entire 2-week stay.  Finally go a shower in the last 2 days.  Needless to say, this 2-week summer training did not help the re-enlistment rate for the unit--they lost me.
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 08:48:54 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on August 31, 2017, 06:54:42 PM
What campfire???  This was NG training, not a camping trip. We lived mainly on MRE's (which aren't bad, really--much better than C rations)--only had 3/4 hots the entire 2-week stay.  Finally go a shower in the last 2 days.  Needless to say, this 2-week summer training did not help the re-enlistment rate for the unit--they lost me.

If you had just joined the Marines, you would have eaten nails for breakfast, and liked it ;-)
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Mike Cl on September 01, 2017, 10:24:50 AM
Quote from: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 08:48:54 PM
If you had just joined the Marines, you would have eaten nails for breakfast, and liked it ;-)
Never had a single moment in my life when I wanted to be a Marine.  Saw a chilling sight when I was going thru the Oakland Induction Center; one has to go thru a bunch of crap and papers to be inducted into the Army, even if drafted.  As I had just finished and was waiting for the bus to take the group I was in to the airport to go to Ft. Lewis for basic, a group of about 40/50 guys were brought up short and told by a Marine DI to get into a long line.  He had them count off in 5's.  He then had all the 1's step forward.  He then said one of the most chilling statements I've ever heard--"Congratulations, you are now all Marines!  Follow me!"  Drafted into the Marines!  Sent shivers up my spine then--and now. 
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Cavebear on September 03, 2017, 09:20:58 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on August 31, 2017, 06:54:42 PM
What campfire???  This was NG training, not a camping trip. We lived mainly on MRE's (which aren't bad, really--much better than C rations)--only had 3/4 hots the entire 2-week stay.  Finally go a shower in the last 2 days.  Needless to say, this 2-week summer training did not help the re-enlistment rate for the unit--they lost me.

You can get almost anything organic to burn.  In Boy Scouts, I whittled dry twigs into "pinecones", medium stems into shaves and debarked them, and larger pits of wood into splits pounding them with large stones.

I set the fire with flint and steel.  But I have since started fires with drill bows.  I've never managed just spinning a stick in a hole in wood, but that really does require 2 people.
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Mike Cl on September 03, 2017, 10:11:07 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 03, 2017, 09:20:58 PM
You can get almost anything organic to burn.  In Boy Scouts, I whittled dry twigs into "pinecones", medium stems into shaves and debarked them, and larger pits of wood into splits pounding them with large stones.

I set the fire with flint and steel.  But I have since started fires with drill bows.  I've never managed just spinning a stick in a hole in wood, but that really does require 2 people.
It was not a matter of not having matches--I really do prefer matches--but orders to not start any fires.
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Cavebear on September 03, 2017, 10:27:23 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 03, 2017, 10:11:07 PM
It was not a matter of not having matches--I really do prefer matches--but orders to not start any fires.

Expose the sleeping bag to ants for a day then.  They will clear out the pests...  Kick the anthills and drop the bag on it...
Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Baruch on September 03, 2017, 10:31:17 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 03, 2017, 10:27:23 PM
Expose the sleeping bag to ants for a day then.  They will clear out the pests...  Kick the anthills and drop the bag on it...

Is the cure worse than the disease?  Sounds like you are an Apache to me.
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Title: Re: The Left are Coneheads, and they aren't even from France ...
Post by: Cavebear on September 03, 2017, 10:37:50 PM
Quote from: Baruch on September 03, 2017, 10:31:17 PM
Is the cure worse than the disease?  Sounds like you are an Apache to me.
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Ants are easier to brush out of a week-old sleeping bag than fleas and lice.  Practical experience...