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Title: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: SoldierofFortune on August 19, 2017, 10:51:28 PM
So, is thirties the new twenties?

It is about age.
It may be about career-focused idea i dont know surely.

Thoughts?

edit: it is valid for men, not women ehehehehe
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Shiranu on August 19, 2017, 11:10:07 PM
What?

Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Sorginak on August 19, 2017, 11:17:33 PM
It might be.  Women are aging more gracefully than they used to.  They might be able to pull it off without botox.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: SoldierofFortune on August 19, 2017, 11:18:05 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on August 19, 2017, 11:10:07 PM
What?

I mean if the age of 40 is the new the age of 30 when we adress the time we are living in...
It is from the lyrics of the song rain over me from pitbull.

A billion is the new million.
Forty is the new thirty etc...

I wish it is clear now.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: SoldierofFortune on August 19, 2017, 11:19:32 PM
Quote from: Sorginak on August 19, 2017, 11:17:33 PM
It might be.  Women are aging more gracefully than they used to.  They might be able to pull it off without botox.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Baruch on August 20, 2017, 12:43:51 AM
People are less mature at any given age, and are living longer.  So yes.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Cavebear on August 20, 2017, 02:50:57 AM
60 is the new 40.  We baby boomers aren't giving up without a fight, LOL!
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Atheon on August 20, 2017, 09:06:56 AM
50 is the new 30; 40 is the new 20.

People are realizing that when you turn 50, you don't have to wear silly-looking polyester golf pants and grandpa caps. You can still rock jeans and a T-shirt.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Baruch on August 20, 2017, 12:15:21 PM
Quote from: Atheon on August 20, 2017, 09:06:56 AM
50 is the new 30; 40 is the new 20.

People are realizing that when you turn 50, you don't have to wear silly-looking polyester golf pants and grandpa caps. You can still rock jeans and a T-shirt.

Only if you work out.  Otherwise you are ridiculous, like an old biker trying to look cool.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: SGOS on August 20, 2017, 12:53:16 PM
30 is 30, and 40 is still 40.  Sorry, that's the math.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Cavebear on August 20, 2017, 01:15:17 PM
Quote from: SGOS on August 20, 2017, 12:53:16 PM
30 is 30, and 40 is still 40.  Sorry, that's the math.

No. I saw my grandparents at my age and they were OLD.  I mean wrinkled, worn out and dying of old age.  I'm not there yet and won't be til 90 if a truck doesn't hit me.  There IS a difference.  It matters.  It is a softer life and better medical treatment.  I spent my years in a nice comfortable office, not a farm.  It shows.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Mike Cl on August 20, 2017, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: Atheon on August 20, 2017, 09:06:56 AM
50 is the new 30; 40 is the new 20.

People are realizing that when you turn 50, you don't have to wear silly-looking polyester golf pants and grandpa caps. You can still rock jeans and a T-shirt.
Oh, what??????? You mean I have to take off my polyester golf pants and grandpa hat????  Shit.............!!  I have a dresser full of those!  Damn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: SGOS on August 20, 2017, 02:14:33 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on August 20, 2017, 01:32:00 PM
Oh, what??????? You mean I have to take off my polyester golf pants and grandpa hat????  Shit.............!!  I have a dresser full of those!  Damn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's a disguise.  Dirty old men trying to appear harmless.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Cavebear on August 20, 2017, 04:22:37 PM
Quote from: SGOS on August 20, 2017, 02:14:33 PM
It's a disguise.  Dirty old men trying to appear harmless.

Wear a raincoat on a dry day.  NOBODY will bother you...
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Baruch on August 20, 2017, 04:28:07 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on August 20, 2017, 04:22:37 PM
Wear a raincoat on a dry day.  NOBODY will bother you...

Get one of the semi-transparent ones, so nothing is left to the imagination ...
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Mike Cl on August 20, 2017, 06:20:34 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on August 20, 2017, 04:22:37 PM
Wear a raincoat on a dry day.  NOBODY will bother you...
Strange but true in my neighborhood.  What abut the person who wears a hoodie in 100 degree heat--or is riding a bicycle?
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Sorginak on August 20, 2017, 06:22:31 PM
I find that wearing headphones in public is the best way to make certain no one bothers me. 
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 06:11:54 AM
Quote from: Baruch on August 20, 2017, 04:28:07 PM
Get one of the semi-transparent ones, so nothing is left to the imagination ...

No, the point is the uncertainty.  I wasn't in any way suggesting flashing, just the way one would be avoided by all by wearing the raincoat on a dry day.

In chess, the threat is more important than the execution.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 08:38:30 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 06:11:54 AM
No, the point is the uncertainty.  I wasn't in any way suggesting flashing, just the way one would be avoided by all by wearing the raincoat on a dry day.

In chess, the threat is more important than the execution.

Only if you are Bobby Fischer, not if you are Boris Spassky.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 05:58:29 PM
Quote from: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 08:38:30 AM
Only if you are Bobby Fischer, not if you are Boris Spassky.

Ah but you are quite wrong there.  It was Spassky who made threats that Fischer brilliantly ignored.  Though only Fischer could ignore them.  I recall reading of one Russian Grandmaster (Tal?) who said after losing a match "Sometimes I forget that my opponent has good ideas too".

So in general, yes.  But not against Fischer.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 07:35:48 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on August 26, 2017, 05:58:29 PM
Ah but you are quite wrong there.  It was Spassky who made threats that Fischer brilliantly ignored.  Though only Fischer could ignore them.  I recall reading of one Russian Grandmaster (Tal?) who said after losing a match "Sometimes I forget that my opponent has good ideas too".

So in general, yes.  But not against Fischer.

Spassky was always complaining in Iceland that Fischer did lots of annoying things that were distracting him.  So I guess I didn't use "threat" the right way.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: trdsf on August 27, 2017, 12:10:45 PM
I started seeing '40 is the new 30' when I turned 40.  I didn't see '50 is the new 30' until I turned 50 -- and for the record, I got carded for beer two days after my 50th birthday.  Legit carded, not 'we have to card everyone even if they look old enough to have voted against dirt' carded.  I told the clerk, "Don't you DARE apologize!"  :D

So, in about six, seven years, I will look forward to '60 is the new 30'.  If I get to reset every ten years, I'll take it.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Mr.Obvious on August 29, 2017, 11:40:57 AM
Quote from: Atheon on August 20, 2017, 09:06:56 AM
50 is the new 30; 40 is the new 20.

People are realizing that when you turn 50, you don't have to wear silly-looking polyester golf pants and grandpa caps. You can still rock jeans and a T-shirt.

And hipsters have realized the exact opposite.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 03:00:08 AM
Quote from: Baruch on August 26, 2017, 07:35:48 PM
Spassky was always complaining in Iceland that Fischer did lots of annoying things that were distracting him.  So I guess I didn't use "threat" the right way.

Yeah. Fischer complained about nearly everything.  I agree he was a complete nudge to an nth degree.  But when it came to the chessboard Fischer was the all-time best.  Crazy lunatic.  But that's kind of what it takes...

When I was President of the University Of Maryland chess club. we had 3 players who were great.  One was college age and knew every opening.  One was a teen who had inventive moves.  And one was a crazed stoner who could focus on a 1/4 of the board fanatically.  If you were playing in that 1/4, you were doomed.  But you never knew which 1/4 he was focussing on.  If you got it right, he could be beaten.  If not, no hope...
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 07:17:27 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 03:00:08 AM
Yeah. Fischer complained about nearly everything.  I agree he was a complete nudge to an nth degree.  But when it came to the chessboard Fischer was the all-time best.  Crazy lunatic.  But that's kind of what it takes...

When I was President of the University Of Maryland chess club. we had 3 players who were great.  One was college age and knew every opening.  One was a teen who had inventive moves.  And one was a crazed stoner who could focus on a 1/4 of the board fanatically.  If you were playing in that 1/4, you were doomed.  But you never knew which 1/4 he was focussing on.  If you got it right, he could be beaten.  If not, no hope...

Of your three examples, the first one is weakest.  Being a human chess computer is so ... limiting.  And Fischer admitted later what made him tick ... photographic memory and instant recall.  He claimed to remember every position of every board of every chess game he ever played.  Felt sorry for him, understand why he burned out.  Like running a laptop cpu at twice normal clock speed.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 09:13:38 AM
Quote from: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 07:17:27 AM
Of your three examples, the first one is weakest.  Being a human chess computer is so ... limiting.  And Fischer admitted later what made him tick ... photographic memory and instant recall.  He claimed to remember every position of every board of every chess game he ever played.  Felt sorry for him, understand why he burned out.  Like running a laptop cpu at twice normal clock speed.

Fanatically talented specialists are weird.  Some great baseball hitters remember every pitch thrown at them by pitcher and date.  Some chess players can instantly recall every position they ever played.  There is a reason some can play a dozen games blind (not watching each game or simultaneous).  Some people know every card played

They are not like you and me.  Probably some strange facilty of the brain focussed on nearly nothing else.  Functional autism, or something like it.  And quite frankly, that is about the only thing they can do.  There are more balanced exceptions of course.

I look at a chess board and can keep a 1/4 of it or some specific pieces in focus at one time, but never the whole thing.   On the other hand, I am decently competent at a lot of things and grateful for that.

Jack of many trades and master of none...
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 01:17:23 PM
"Jack of many trades and master of none..." ... similar here.  Mozart was a maniac like that.  And burned out early.  There was a scifi story about that, where they brought a classical musician from the 1700s forward.  He became a Rock star and still burned out before he was thirty.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 02:30:19 PM
Quote from: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 01:17:23 PM
"Jack of many trades and master of none..." ... similar here.  Mozart was a maniac like that.  And burned out early.  There was a scifi story about that, where they brought a classical musician from the 1700s forward.  He became a Rock star and still burned out before he was thirty.

Or like the Twilight Zone episode where a Shakespeare expert went back in time and discovered to his horror that HE had to write all the plays...?
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: trdsf on August 31, 2017, 02:47:41 PM
Quote from: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 01:17:23 PM
"Jack of many trades and master of none..." ... similar here.  Mozart was a maniac like that.  And burned out early.  There was a scifi story about that, where they brought a classical musician from the 1700s forward.  He became a Rock star and still burned out before he was thirty.
Ugh, I can't remember the name of the story, but it was in Omni.  I remember reading it.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 02:54:40 PM
Quote from: trdsf on August 31, 2017, 02:47:41 PM
Ugh, I can't remember the name of the story, but it was in Omni.  I remember reading it.

Probably doesn't matter.  Great Ones probably will be the same in all multiverses.  Burn out about the same sort of way. 
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 09:32:21 PM
Quote from: trdsf on August 31, 2017, 02:47:41 PM
Ugh, I can't remember the name of the story, but it was in Omni.  I remember reading it.

Oh no, not the Omni! (inside joke).

The composer was Pergolesi ... who died in real life when 26.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 12:15:49 AM
Quote from: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 09:32:21 PM
Oh no, not the Omni! (inside joke).

The composer was Pergolesi ... who died in real life when 26.

Sadly, that isn't getting to the piece I want to hear.  Anything more specific?
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Unbeliever on September 05, 2017, 05:01:57 PM
The super rich are injecting blood from teenagers to gain ‘immortality’ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/item/347828f8-6e7f-4a9b-92ab-95f637a9dc2e?ns_campaign=bbc-three&ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=immortal)



OK, who didn't see this coming?
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Mr.Obvious on September 06, 2017, 06:43:18 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 05, 2017, 05:01:57 PM
The super rich are injecting blood from teenagers to gain ‘immortality’ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/item/347828f8-6e7f-4a9b-92ab-95f637a9dc2e?ns_campaign=bbc-three&ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=immortal)



OK, who didn't see this coming?

I could try this for free, I think.
There's often a bunch of young people hanging out in a nearby, abandoned appartment building.
I think they even have the syringes at hand.
This will work out swell.
Title: Re: Is forty the new thirty?
Post by: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 03:55:10 AM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on September 06, 2017, 06:43:18 PM
I could try this for free, I think.
There's often a bunch of young people hanging out in a nearby, abandoned appartment building.
I think they even have the syringes at hand.
This will work out swell.

LOL!  Yeah, who doesn't want used needles from druggies...    Good One!  And not snarky, best humor all day.