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Title: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: SGOS on August 08, 2017, 07:44:08 AM
I started bowling when I was about 10 or 11 in a Saturday morning kid's bowling league in Chicago.  A friend got me to go, because his Dad was a bowler and decided to put Jimmy in a children's bowling league, and Jimmy said he wanted a friend to go with him.  I was happy to go.  It was fun hoisting that heavy ball off the rack and the walking and sliding up to the foul line while gracefully swinging that huge ball, sending it rumbling down the alley, occasionally making a resonant <Ka-thump, Ka-thump, Ka-thump> when the ball rolled over its finger holes on the wooden floor.  Sometimes it would go straight in the gutter, and the rumble would change to a steady drone as the gutter guided the ball pass the pins.  A gutter ball reminded me of a train going down the tracks, and I always wished I could make the ball go as straight as it did in the gutter.

A barrier (called the gate) would then come down, pick up all 10 pins, and put them down again.  I always wondered why they reset the pins after a gutter ball because the pins were always left standing in the right place when the ball went down the gutter. 

Jimmy used to race up and grab his ball when it was his turn, because he liked to get his ball rolling while the gate was still down as it reset the pins after the previous bowler.  It was his "Jimmy thing."  He would time it so his ball was 3/4 of the way down the alley before the gate lifted up just in the nick of time to have his ball fly through the middle of the pins scattering them in all directions with a breath taking clatter, and everyone would remark, "Wow, Jimmy, that one was really close!" 

Once, the gate didn't lift up in time, and Jimmy's ball crashed into it.  It wasn't as spectacular as I thought it would be.  The gate just stopped the ball dead in it's tracks.  When it lifted up, I think the ball just sat there and a guy (called the pin spotter) swung down from above and reached around to pull the ball into the pin bin.  He reminded me of Santa Clause coming down into the fireplace, and when he was done, he just disappeared back up from where he came, and was again hidden from view.

I always wanted to know what was going on out of sight back there behind that fireplace looking area.  I never got a tour, but I think that guy was busy.  I always wondered if that guy had a name.  Was it always the same guy every Saturday, or did someone else do it once in a while?  I thought it would be fun to be the guy that was back there, a nameless man of mystery, out of sight, controlling everything with levers and buttons.  I thought I might like to do that when I grew up.

Jimmy was a better bowler than me, even though he was a year younger.  In fact, Jimmy was better than me at everything, baseball, basketball, football, running, jumping, and other games we just made up.  But I was smarter than Jimmy, because I was older, and when he was in 7th grade, I was in 8th grade, but I think most of the kids in Jimmy's class were smarter than Jimmy too, so being smarter than Jimmy wasn't all that big of a deal.

One of the kids on our team was a girl named Gloria.  She had curly blond hair, and chewed gum all the time.  She would chew gum with her mouth open, and she could talk really fast and chew at the same time, which was interesting to watch.  She was like a gum junkie.  Her words would mix with this smacking sound from the gum, and the words would just pour out of her.  One time, she started a conversation with Jimmy and I, and she wanted to know if we ever watched bowling on TV.  Of course we had, but we were mesmerized by the fact that she was talking to us, and we just stood there.  So she explained professional bowling to us in great detail.  She said some of "those guys" were bowling games and getting scores upwards of 270, which we already knew, but it was still impressive, because few of us in the Saturday morning league ever got scores above 90.  Occasionally, one of us would break 100. 

"Yeah," Gloria finished, "Bowling on TV is really high class stuff.  All of those guys are really high class." Bowling is high class?  I decided Gloria must be a floosy, although kind of a hot floosy, and I was happy she was on our team.  At least we had one of the hot girls on our team.  She may have been the first girl I was ever attracted to, but I don't think she talked to us much after that.  I always wished she would start another conversation, but I don't think she did.
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Mike Cl on August 08, 2017, 09:15:00 AM
Bowling.  I earned some money in high school by setting pins.  I went to HS in a small community next to an 'ammo dump', which was 7 miles from the main road in the high dessert.  Anyway, the entertainment facilities we had access to were from WWII when there were several hundred GI's billeted there.  So, we had a 6 lane bowling alley and the pins had to be manually set .  I did that for about a year on Wed. evenings.  I covered 2 lanes for a men's league.  Nothing like being on the pin end of the lane and watching a bowling ball coming at you at 100 mph (or it seemed like it)!  Dodging flying pins was a bunch of fun too!  Good times!
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: aitm on August 08, 2017, 03:59:34 PM
Yes...yes I did.
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on August 08, 2017, 04:11:40 PM
My mother joined a league as an absolute rookie when she was in her 30s. That year she got "Most Improved Bowler" and "High Game" for her league and her team won their tournament. She was hooked from then on.
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Draconic Aiur on August 08, 2017, 06:25:58 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on August 08, 2017, 04:11:40 PM
My mother joined a league as an absolute rookie when she was in her 30s. That year she got "Most Improved Bowler" and "High Game" for her league and her team won their tournament. She was hooked from then on.

Was this in the 50"s? Because I know you are old as the red wood forest.
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: SGOS on August 08, 2017, 07:10:26 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on August 08, 2017, 04:11:40 PM
My mother joined a league as an absolute rookie when she was in her 30s. That year she got "Most Improved Bowler" and "High Game" for her league and her team won their tournament. She was hooked from then on.
I think bowling tournaments are won and lost on handicaps.  I asked why they do it that way, and was told that it helps level the playing field and gives everyone a fair chance.  I was never satisfied with that answer.  It seems to me that in any competition, the best team is supposed to win.  On the other hand, when I'm playing poker, I don't care if I win or lose.  OK, I'd rather win, but the reason I'm there is to smoke cigars and talk trash with a bunch of guys.  And when I think about it, bowling was like that too.  I don't care what the team six lanes down is doing.  I just liked knocking down pins and hanging out. 

The one year I was in a grown up league, we won, probably because of my handicap.  We had a banquet and each of us got a trophy.  I had no idea that was coming, and really never grasped why we deserved it.  I put it on the mantel for awhile, but I did it more as a joke.  Finally, I took it down.

Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on August 08, 2017, 07:22:13 PM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on August 08, 2017, 06:25:58 PM
Was this in the 50"s? Because I know you are old as the red wood forest.
She was born in '29.
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Cavebear on August 09, 2017, 03:05:18 AM
Quote from: SGOS on August 08, 2017, 07:44:08 AM
I started bowling when I was about 10 or 11 in a Saturday morning kid's bowling league in Chicago.  A friend got me to go, because his Dad was a bowler and decided to put Jimmy in a children's bowling league, and Jimmy said he wanted a friend to go with him.  I was happy to go.

...   

"Yeah," Gloria finished, "Bowling on TV is really high class stuff.  All of those guys are really high class." Bowling is high class?  I decided Gloria must be a floosy, although kind of a hot floosy, and I was happy she was on our team.  At least we had one of the hot girls on our team.  She may have been the first girl I was ever attracted to, but I don't think she talked to us much after that.  I always wished she would start another conversation, but I don't think she did.

Sgos, that was a great tale of your younger life.  I have great bowling memories too.
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Cavebear on August 09, 2017, 03:06:45 AM
Quote from: Mike Cl on August 08, 2017, 09:15:00 AM
Bowling.  I earned some money in high school by setting pins.  I went to HS in a small community next to an 'ammo dump', which was 7 miles from the main road in the high dessert.  Anyway, the entertainment facilities we had access to were from WWII when there were several hundred GI's billeted there.  So, we had a 6 lane bowling alley and the pins had to be manually set .  I did that for about a year on Wed. evenings.  I covered 2 lanes for a men's league.  Nothing like being on the pin end of the lane and watching a bowling ball coming at you at 100 mph (or it seemed like it)!  Dodging flying pins was a bunch of fun too!  Good times!

I love hearing about "first jobs"!  I mowed lawns and pumped gas.  SO boring.
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Cavebear on August 09, 2017, 03:18:22 AM
I've bowled a few times in my life.  I was in an apartment near a bowling alley and joined a nen;s league,  I was never great, but a clutch bowler at the end.  Moved.  Then a carpool member wanted a mixed league member and those were good times.  I love bowling.  I was the last on the team and if we needed a 3 strike, I got it.

And as a straight thrower...  I never got an average above 180, but when it counted...  Yeah!

I would bowl now but my knee is messed up.  I am thinking of trying out the local lanes on special nights where they offer 3 games for some cheap price. To see if my knee works. 

So yes, I have a trophy.  One.  One is better than none,  ;)
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Baruch on August 09, 2017, 08:36:21 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on August 09, 2017, 03:18:22 AM
I've bowled a few times in my life.  I was in an apartment near a bowling alley and joined a nen;s league,  I was never great, but a clutch bowler at the end.  Moved.  Then a carpool member wanted a mixed league member and those were good times.  I love bowling.  I was the last on the team and if we needed a 3 strike, I got it.

And as a straight thrower...  I never got an average above 180, but when it counted...  Yeah!

I would bowl now but my knee is messed up.  I am thinking of trying out the local lanes on special nights where they offer 3 games for some cheap price. To see if my knee works. 

So yes, I have a trophy.  One.  One is better than none,  ;)

Bad knee?  Time for shuffleboard.
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 03:11:27 AM
Quote from: Baruch on August 09, 2017, 08:36:21 PM
Bad knee?  Time for shuffleboard.

Played shuffleboard.  Did well on a table and on the floor.  The trick is to defeat the opponent, not do a score until the last turn.

Actually, there isn't much like that I'm not "competent" at.  I've tried almost everything.  Rugby scrum baffled me though...
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 07:21:21 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 03:11:27 AM
Played shuffleboard.  Did well on a table and on the floor.  The trick is to defeat the opponent, not do a score until the last turn.

Actually, there isn't much like that I'm not "competent" at.  I've tried almost everything.  Rugby scrum baffled me though...

Tic Tac Toe is like that.  Who moves first ... then tactical play to simply prevent the other person scoring.  Then the worst case is a tie.  If you go first, you have an advantage.  If the other person is stupid, you can win either way.  So the goal is to go first if possible, and be less stupid than the other guy.
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: aitm on August 31, 2017, 08:39:37 AM
I enjoy bowling. Don't do it much at all. Both the wife and I were on a league years ago and it was fun, but 32 weeks was too long. I tried to get  them to do 16 weeks and they said no, so it was just too much. But all this talk about it made me tell the wife we are going bowling this weekend. She is excited. Imagine...getting excited about bowling? Life much? meh.
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 08:56:02 AM
Quote from: aitm on August 31, 2017, 08:39:37 AM
I enjoy bowling. Don't do it much at all. Both the wife and I were on a league years ago and it was fun, but 32 weeks was too long. I tried to get  them to do 16 weeks and they said no, so it was just too much. But all this talk about it made me tell the wife we are going bowling this weekend. She is excited. Imagine...getting excited about bowling? Life much? meh.

If bowling excites her, be ready dog guy. BOL!...
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: SGOS on August 31, 2017, 09:14:19 AM
Quote from: aitm on August 31, 2017, 08:39:37 AM
I enjoy bowling. Don't do it much at all. Both the wife and I were on a league years ago and it was fun, but 32 weeks was too long. I tried to get  them to do 16 weeks and they said no, so it was just too much. But all this talk about it made me tell the wife we are going bowling this weekend. She is excited. Imagine...getting excited about bowling? Life much? meh.
For all the jokes made about bowling, and I make them too, it is fun to go bowling, just as it's fun to make jokes about it.  I haven't bowled for years, but I have been thinking about it.  There's a new Cineplex I frequent that also features a restaurant, arcade, and bowling lanes, which are mostly empty in the afternoons.  I even asked the attendant what it costs.  It's affordable, as long as you don't get carried away.  I can't remember what she told me it cost, but it's no longer 35 cents a line.

The one thing about the new lanes is that there are huge TV screens that cover maybe three lanes each playing ads and that sports bar shit that's just a mishmash of something that looks like live TV at first.  The screens are huge and right above the pins at the end of the lane, and when they flip to something during the break in the action, to some guys on a panel talking about Jake Parnell's pitching problems of late, there are  graphics like exploding stars, and panels that zoom to take over the screen and have to flip and twist and reverse themselves to be readable.  I don't know if I could concentrate on sending the ball down the lane.  People don't seem to be bothered by it, but they have to shave 30 points off of every line you bowl.

It's like the new society's obsession to be continually distracted by extraneous irrelevance:  "Excuse me, I have to get this call on my cell phone.  There!  Now what were you saying about your mother dying this morning?  Oh wait just a minute, I have another call."
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 09:18:43 AM
Quote from: SGOS on August 31, 2017, 09:14:19 AM
For all the jokes made about bowling, and I make them too, it is fun to go bowling, just as it's fun to make jokes about it.  I haven't bowled for years, but I have been thinking about it.  There's a new Cineplex I frequent that also features a restaurant, arcade, and bowling lanes, which are mostly empty in the afternoons.  I even asked the attendant what it costs.  It's affordable, as long as you don't get carried away.  I can't remember what she told me it cost, but it's no longer 35 cents a line.

The one thing about the new lanes is that there are huge TV screens that cover maybe three lanes each playing ads and that sports bar shit that's just a mishmash of something that looks like live TV at first.  The screens are huge and right above the pins at the end of the lane, and when they flip to something during the break in the action, to some guys on a panel talking about Jake Parnell's pitching problems of late, there are  graphics like exploding stars, and panels that zoom to take over the screen and have to flip and twist and reverse themselves to be readable.  I don't know if I could concentrate on sending the ball down the lane.  People don't seem to be bothered by it, but they have to shave 30 points off of every line you bowl.

It's like the new society's obsession to be continually distracted by extraneous irrelevance:  "Excuse me, I have to get this call on my cell phone.  There!  Now what were you saying about your mother dying this morning?  Oh wait just a minute, I have another call."

You stand, toss the ball. and ignore the distractions.  And you know what, I just checked the local lanes.  They offer cheap bowling Sundays, and my knee feels about normal.  I have shoes and a 15 pound ball fitted to me and I want to bowl again!
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Mr.Obvious on August 31, 2017, 10:05:44 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on August 09, 2017, 03:06:45 AM
I love hearing about "first jobs"!  I mowed lawns and pumped gas.  SO boring.

It was either making candy in a factory... (Willy Wonka fucking lied.)
Or clearing out frozen food from trucks and placing them on pallets.
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 10:18:00 AM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on August 31, 2017, 10:05:44 AM
It was either making candy in a factory... (Willy Wonka fucking lied.)
Or clearing out frozen food from trucks and placing them on pallets.

Somehow, shoveling dead things from a truck weren't in the classifieds.  I did however spend a Summer throwing tires off trucks (rolling them overhand to move across the warehouse) and I didn't know THAT from the classifieds either.  I got fired released because the unemployed high school varsity football players were WAY better at it.
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: trdsf on August 31, 2017, 12:54:37 PM
Wow, I think it's been nearly 20 years since I last bowled.  I was never much good at it.  130 was a good game for me, and as I recall, my best ever was a 194.  Now, on Wii Bowling, I think my record is 279.  But that's not the same.

I recall my mom, dad, my uncle (dad's younger brother) and a friend of his joining a mixed league.  They called their team "Three Balls and a Bag"...
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 02:35:15 PM
Quote from: trdsf on August 31, 2017, 12:54:37 PM
Wow, I think it's been nearly 20 years since I last bowled.  I was never much good at it.  130 was a good game for me, and as I recall, my best ever was a 194.  Now, on Wii Bowling, I think my record is 279.  But that's not the same.

I recall my mom, dad, my uncle (dad's younger brother) and a friend of his joining a mixed league.  They called their team "Three Balls and a Bag"...

I had two 200+ games but was a steady 170 straight bowler good as the anchor to get the spare. 
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: SGOS on August 31, 2017, 04:45:39 PM
Quote from: trdsf on August 31, 2017, 12:54:37 PM
I recall my mom, dad, my uncle (dad's younger brother) and a friend of his joining a mixed league.  They called their team "Three Balls and a Bag"...
I played intramural basketball in college.  Some of the teams had clever names.  One team was Athletes Anonymous, but my favorite team name was The Bay of Pigs, which required that you weigh at least 200 lbs just to make the team, and boasted that it always had over a half ton on the floor at any given moment.  Not as clever was the Fresh Five, but it was the team that ended the season with by far the most wins.  They were a well balanced team, winning games with no individual that ever had his name posted on the next day's high scorer list.
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Cavebear on August 31, 2017, 05:10:27 PM
Quote from: SGOS on August 31, 2017, 04:45:39 PM
I played intramural basketball in college.  Some of the teams had clever names.  One team was Athletes Anonymous, but my favorite team name was The Bay of Pigs, which required that you weigh at least 200 lbs just to make the team, and boasted that it always had over a half ton on the floor at any given moment.  Not as clever was the Fresh Five, but it was the team that ended the season with by far the most wins.  They were a well balanced team, winning games with no individual that ever had his name posted on the next day's high scorer list.

I love The Fresh Five name.  Sounds like young superheroes...  LOL!
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Unbeliever on August 31, 2017, 05:43:27 PM
I haven't bowled in decades - but when I did, I had a mean hook!
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 09:29:57 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on August 31, 2017, 05:43:27 PM
I haven't bowled in decades - but when I did, I had a mean hook!

What did you do to Tinkerbell this time?!
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 12:18:46 AM
Quote from: Baruch on August 31, 2017, 09:29:57 PM
What did you to to Tinkerbell this time?!

Sprinkled her dust over my draft beer.  Do you do anything other than make bad jokes?
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Mr.Obvious on September 04, 2017, 06:57:16 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on September 04, 2017, 12:18:46 AM
Sprinkled her dust over my draft beer.  Do you do anything other than make bad jokes?

Come now, Cavebear.
Bad jokes is 85% of the fun on a forum.
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: trdsf on September 04, 2017, 07:02:27 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on August 31, 2017, 05:43:27 PM
I haven't bowled in decades - but when I did, I had a mean hook!
I threw a hard rocket ball -- never had the time to curve.  Exactly the same as my dad.  It was the bowling equivalent of watching the Stadlers pere and fils on a golf course -- except they're much better golfers than Dad and I were bowlers, of course.
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Mike Cl on September 04, 2017, 07:14:24 PM
Quote from: trdsf on September 04, 2017, 07:02:27 PM
I threw a hard rocket ball -- never had the time to curve.  Exactly the same as my dad.  It was the bowling equivalent of watching the Stadlers pere and fils on a golf course -- except they're much better golfers than Dad and I were bowlers, of course.
I hated guys like you and your dad!  Why??  Because you were a danger to my life and limb!!!  At least in HS--set pins at a bowling alley before the time of automatic pin setters.  Some of the guys like you would send those damned pins flying 3--4 lanes away.  One could never allow themselves to become comfortable back there. 
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: aitm on September 04, 2017, 09:31:41 PM
Went bowling last night. Had fun.
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: trdsf on September 05, 2017, 09:21:15 AM
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 04, 2017, 07:14:24 PM
I hated guys like you and your dad!  Why??  Because you were a danger to my life and limb!!!  At least in HS--set pins at a bowling alley before the time of automatic pin setters.  Some of the guys like you would send those damned pins flying 3--4 lanes away.  One could never allow themselves to become comfortable back there.
In my defense, I never caused a pin to exit its lane.  I have knocked them out past where the automatic sweeper could reach, though.

I remember one guy in my college who threw even harder.  It always looked like an explosion when the ball hit the pins; I once saw him make a strike from the 3-6 pocket, he got that much mixmaster action.
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Mike Cl on September 05, 2017, 10:18:14 AM
Quote from: trdsf on September 05, 2017, 09:21:15 AM
In my defense, I never caused a pin to exit its lane.  I have knocked them out past where the automatic sweeper could reach, though.

I remember one guy in my college who threw even harder.  It always looked like an explosion when the ball hit the pins; I once saw him make a strike from the 3-6 pocket, he got that much mixmaster action.
In the alley I worked--only 6 lanes--there was about 10ft. between the place on the lane where the pins sat and the back wall of the alley.  there was a little ledge that the setters sat on when not picking up pins.  Each guy handled 2 lanes.  There was a divider that extended to the back wall from the end of the lane to the back wall, with a door-like opening in each one so the sitters could get to each lane quickly.  When the ball was delivered we sat on that ledge with our feet up on the end of the machine that put the pins down where they belonged.  We hoped that the pins would stay on the floor--not fly all around.  But every night a pin from lane one would end up in lane 3 or 4.  Not unusual to have leg bruises--shins hurt a bunch when the pin found them.
Title: Re: Did You Ever Win a Bowling Trophy?
Post by: Cavebear on September 07, 2017, 03:59:07 AM
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 05, 2017, 10:18:14 AM
In the alley I worked--only 6 lanes--there was about 10ft. between the place on the lane where the pins sat and the back wall of the alley.  there was a little ledge that the setters sat on when not picking up pins.  Each guy handled 2 lanes.  There was a divider that extended to the back wall from the end of the lane to the back wall, with a door-like opening in each one so the sitters could get to each lane quickly.  When the ball was delivered we sat on that ledge with our feet up on the end of the machine that put the pins down where they belonged.  We hoped that the pins would stay on the floor--not fly all around.  But every night a pin from lane one would end up in lane 3 or 4.  Not unusual to have leg bruises--shins hurt a bunch when the pin found them.

I used to bowl often.  But never where the pins wern't set automatically.  And I am a straight bowler.  Fr om far right side into the 1-3 pins...  I couldn't hold a ball for a curve if it weighed only 5 pounds...