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Title: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: Solomon Zorn on July 18, 2017, 06:44:38 AM
You guys know that I am schizophrenic.

But I have a feeling that Donald Trump, is monitoring, me. Is that possible?

Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: Baruch on July 18, 2017, 07:08:27 AM
Quote from: Solomon Zorn on July 18, 2017, 06:44:38 AM
You guys know that I am schizophrenic.

But I have a feeling that Donald Trump, is monitoring, me. Is that possible?

What is crazy about paranoia ... is that the authorities don't really care about you at all ... and that insults your overweening pride ;-)

Yes, the government monitors everyone, because they can.  Even what I am typing right now.  But it doesn't matter, they are all short-attention-span avengers!

And no, the President doesn't personally do anything, that is why there is a huge executive branch to do his bidding.
Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: Cavebear on July 18, 2017, 10:15:25 AM
Quote from: Solomon Zorn on July 18, 2017, 06:44:38 AM
You guys know that I am schizophrenic.

But I have a feeling that Donald Trump, is monitoring, me. Is that possible?

If it is any comfort, I seriously doubt he knows you exist.  Or me.  Really, he might be the most embarrassing atheist I know of in the US of A.  He might be the dumbest person with orange hair.  He could be the foolishest Trump in the Universe.  But he will never care about us.

You might be being followed by real enemies day and night, but Trump isn't one of them.
Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 18, 2017, 01:32:38 PM
Quote from: Solomon Zorn on July 18, 2017, 06:44:38 AM
You guys know that I am schizophrenic.

But I have a feeling that Donald Trump, is monitoring, me. Is that possible?


No, he's not watching you.

And stop doing that with your hands, please.
Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: SoldierofFortune on July 19, 2017, 06:41:04 AM
There is no doubt that all the internet data is scanning,
including what you or me writes on forums and all kind of social media, 
by the intelligence agencies, especially the agencies that are in the USA...
That's big bro...


Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: SGOS on July 19, 2017, 11:39:57 AM
I don't think Trump is monitoring you.  He can't even monitor himself, and what he thinks he sees doing that is make believe anyway.  He just twitters around in fog bumping into things, all the while thinking everything is hunky dory.  I even kind of envy him.
Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: Jason78 on July 19, 2017, 12:06:07 PM
Quote from: Solomon Zorn on July 18, 2017, 06:44:38 AM
Donald Trump, is monitoring, me. Is that possible?

No.   He spends too much time tweeting and googling himself to spend any time monitoring you.
Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 19, 2017, 02:18:52 PM
He is to Busy on twitter misspelling 'conference' to be looking into guys Like you and me.

For better or for worse, I fear your cause for anxiety lies closer to home. At the internal level.

Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: Baruch on July 19, 2017, 07:35:03 PM
Sleep deprivation, caused Lindberg to perceive a gremlin riding with him, behind his seat, all the way across the Atlantic, during the flight of the Spirit of St Louis.  Monks and prophets frequently employ limited sleep deprivation to experience visions.
Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: Munch on July 19, 2017, 08:21:21 PM
Quote from: Baruch on July 19, 2017, 07:35:03 PM
Sleep deprivation, caused Lindberg to perceive a gremlin riding with him, behind his seat, all the way across the Atlantic, during the flight of the Spirit of St Louis.  Monks and prophets frequently employ limited sleep deprivation to experience visions.

the human brain is a complex mess of neurons firing all over the place, and stress effecting those currents can have bizarre results.
Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: Baruch on July 19, 2017, 08:28:48 PM
Quote from: Munch on July 19, 2017, 08:21:21 PM
the human brain is a complex mess of neurons firing all over the place, and stress effecting those currents can have bizarre results.

Which is bizarre ... what seems normal to us, or what is abnormal?
Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: fencerider on July 21, 2017, 01:54:37 AM
your not imaginig things Zorn. They say that there are super computers maintaining a file on each of us. everything you buy with a card, every website you visit, every video of you from traffic cams...

I don't know what the guvmnt does with the info, but wall st companies sell the info about you to each other. ( where is my royalty contract? where are my royalty checks)
Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: Baruch on July 21, 2017, 06:30:21 AM
Quote from: fencerider on July 21, 2017, 01:54:37 AM
your not imaginig things Zorn. They say that there are super computers maintaining a file on each of us. everything you buy with a card, every website you visit, every video of you from traffic cams...

I don't know what the guvmnt does with the info, but wall st companies sell the info about you to each other. ( where is my royalty contract? where are my royalty checks)

We were told by the school principal, that any bad action we take, will "go into your permanent record".  And it did.  J Edgar was maintaining dossiers on everyone.  Do you think that has stopped?  You are a medieval peasant, with an iPhone.

Oh, old news but ... the Obama admin was efficiently searching that info, illegally, to get stuff on people associated with Trump.  Too bad Seth Rich wasn't part of the protected class.
Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: Cavebear on July 22, 2017, 03:39:08 AM
Quote from: fencerider on July 21, 2017, 01:54:37 AM
your not imaginig things Zorn. They say that there are super computers maintaining a file on each of us. everything you buy with a card, every website you visit, every video of you from traffic cams...

I don't know what the guvmnt does with the info, but wall st companies sell the info about you to each other. ( where is my royalty contract? where are my royalty checks)

I don't really care what the government or industry knows about me.  It doesn't do them any good.  I am immune to advertising.  Plus, they don't find out much about me.

And I expect some will contest that.  It will be an interesting discussion.
Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: Baruch on July 22, 2017, 07:28:43 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on July 22, 2017, 03:39:08 AM
I don't really care what the government or industry knows about me.  It doesn't do them any good.  I am immune to advertising.  Plus, they don't find out much about me.

And I expect some will contest that.  It will be an interesting discussion.

I am also immune to advertising.  Were you left on your parent's doorstep by gypsies, like I was?
Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on July 22, 2017, 04:35:08 PM
In days past people feared the government was spying on them.  In modern times they say "Hey Siri/Cortana/Alexa/NSA, can cats eat pancakes?"
Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: Cavebear on July 22, 2017, 04:44:05 PM
Funny you should mention that.  I was just researching whether cats eat fruit.  Apparently they do...
Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: Mike Cl on July 23, 2017, 11:26:26 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on July 22, 2017, 04:44:05 PM
Funny you should mention that.  I was just researching whether cats eat fruit.  Apparently they do...
Our cat (that has passed) ate a bit of banana every now and again, but turned his nose up to any other fruit. 
Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: Cavebear on July 28, 2017, 02:47:41 AM
You learn something new every day.  I saw on another site where a person's cats were eating melons.  I had a hard time accepting that cats would, but some research showed that some do.
Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: Baruch on July 28, 2017, 07:01:10 AM
My cats are smarter than any of you.  They choose to live with me ;-)
Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: SGOS on July 28, 2017, 07:38:45 AM
Quote from: Baruch on July 28, 2017, 07:01:10 AM
[My cats] choose to live with me ;-)
Well, that shoots the Hell out of the arguments against free will.
Title: Re: Just Because You Think Your being Watched, Doesn't Mean That You Aren't
Post by: Baruch on July 28, 2017, 10:16:34 PM
Quote from: SGOS on July 28, 2017, 07:38:45 AM
Well, that shoots the Hell out of the arguments against free will.

Some cats carry a parasite that allows them to control infected owners .... must open can of tuna, now!