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Title: Take-Off: The Most Beautiful melody, That I Have Ever Heard...
Post by: Solomon Zorn on July 11, 2017, 01:05:21 AM
James Horner died in 2015. I don't really know much about him, but he left behind, what in my opinion, is the most beautiful melody of all time, which in my opinion, even rivals Strauss' "The Blue Danube."

The fact that it is a Disney movie soundtrack, is irrelevant. From about the 3 minute 20 second point(give or take), the music DESCRIBES an airplane, building up speed, on the runway, and taking flight. It is so well constructed, that I suspect, even if the title didn't include the word, "takeoff," you might still understand the imagery.

5 minutes, that you won't regret:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXbL0iukdCo
Title: Re: Take-Off: The Most Beautiful melody, That I Have Ever Heard...
Post by: Solomon Zorn on July 11, 2017, 01:14:46 AM
If you know of a more beautiful piece of music, please post it. And I mean that sincerely. I don't have much of a library, when it comes to symphony, and actually very little "classical music"(mostly movie soundtracks, from the 1970's). But I love a great melody.
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Post by: Cavebear on July 11, 2017, 08:16:29 AM
Quote from: Solomon Zorn on July 11, 2017, 01:14:46 AM
If you know of a more beautiful piece of music, please post it. And I mean that sincerely. I don't have much of a library, when it comes to symphony, and actually very little "classical music"(mostly movie soundtracks, from the 1970's). But I love a great melody.

Proper music says what words cannot...  A great theme song means a lot.
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Post by: Baruch on July 11, 2017, 01:28:39 PM
Traditional Music Channel has some good pre-modern music ... Classical music isn't even old ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p5T156l4tg
Title: Re: Take-Off: The Most Beautiful melody, That I Have Ever Heard...
Post by: Baruch on July 11, 2017, 01:56:21 PM
Move theme music from my favorite movies ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1YuKBp11sU

Trial by combat is a real thing, that pacifists cannot know ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiDsaxVZmdw

Another ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ije9lDHXWpw

I have to admit, movie sound tracks seem to borrow a lot from each other ;-)

Title: Re: Take-Off: The Most Beautiful melody, That I Have Ever Heard...
Post by: Atheon on July 11, 2017, 02:23:32 PM
One of the most beautiful pieces ever written:

Clair de Lune, by Claude Debussy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvFH_6DNRCY
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Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on July 11, 2017, 03:10:00 PM
Much better and even the lyrics are pretty good..
https://youtu.be/TK3wuvQeE8I
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Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on July 11, 2017, 03:16:35 PM
Actually one of my all time favorite melodies..Stormy Weather.
https://youtu.be/TPgnj5upihQ
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Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on July 11, 2017, 03:24:05 PM
Another of my favorites,  El Choclo more populary known as The Kiss of Fire.
  https://youtu.be/XCXxJFmfGVc
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Post by: aitm on July 11, 2017, 07:58:24 PM
That is a very nice piece you have. Very nice. I like a little classical from time to time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdRNTXaweoo

one of my favorite...

or perhaps this that was part of a pretty good film as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdIpoE2LEps

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Post by: trdsf on July 12, 2017, 12:39:43 PM
This is a piece that reliably chokes me up (as it's doing right now and I have to hold it back because I'm at my desk at work), partly for the simple brilliance of it, partly for decades of fond memories of this being the opening theme for the much-missed Karl Haas (https://duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FKarl_Haas)' equally much-missed radio program, Adventures in Good Music (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventures_in_Good_Music).  It almost sounds wrong to not hear it fade out and into Karl's warm, show-opening "Hullo everyone."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6krawiJAC0
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Post by: Unbeliever on July 12, 2017, 04:02:22 PM
I really like 4'33", by John Cage. It's so simple and so relaxing.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTEFKFiXSx4
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Post by: Solomon Zorn on July 12, 2017, 06:51:16 PM
Thanks for the interest, guys I'll reply by naming the ones, that I found appealing enough to warrant a second listen, some time in the future. I headed over to mp3.linew.com(the safest, and easiest-to-use site, that I know of, for acquiring music, illegally).

For “Battle of Little Roundup,” I found several files available, but each produced a “404 error”(file not found), when I tried to download it.

With “Clair de Lune,” I had better luck.

I actually already have, “Pachebel Canon” (in fact for a long time, it was first on my playlist, every day).

Lastly, Beethoven took several tries, but I did manage to get that one.

The other symphony pieces, were mostly to...”masculine”...for my taste, except for Baruch's very first post, which just seemed to long(just over an hour) to listen to, at the moment(although I did listen to the first few seconds, and it might be worth hearing the rest, some time in the future).

The non-symphony posts, I mostly skipped over, not because they aren't great music, they're just not what I'm looking for, right now.

Thanks to all.
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Post by: Solomon Zorn on July 12, 2017, 07:06:17 PM
Here are a two of my other favorites.

The first one, you've probably heard before. It's my favorite track, from the soundtrack that started my interest in symphonic music: "Princess Leia's Theme," from John Williams' Oscar-winning "Star Wars" soundtrack.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtkuZbcZORE


The second one is a soft, beautiful melody, called, "Ilia's Theme," from Jerry Goldsmith's soundtrack, for the 1979 movie, "Star Trek: the Motion Picture," and has an unusual story: before the movie started, they dimmed the theater lights, and played this theme, to a black screen.

I think you'll like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj4z2Y1y2Ak
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Post by: Baruch on July 12, 2017, 07:13:18 PM
Quote from: Solomon Zorn on July 12, 2017, 06:51:16 PM
Thanks for the interest, guys I'll reply by naming the ones, that I found appealing enough to warrant a second listen, some time in the future. I headed over to mp3.linew.com(the safest, and easiest-to-use site, that I know of, for acquiring music, illegally).

For “Battle of Little Roundup,” I found several files available, but each produced a “404 error”(file not found), when I tried to download it.

With “Clair de Lune,” I had better luck.

I actually already have, “Pachebel Canon” (in fact for a long time, it was first on my playlist, every day).

Lastly, Beethoven took several tries, but I did manage to get that one.

The other symphony pieces, were mostly to...”masculine”...for my taste, except for Baruch's very first post, which just seemed to long(just over an hour) to listen to, at the moment(although I did listen to the first few seconds, and it might be worth hearing the rest, some time in the future).

The non-symphony posts, I mostly skipped over, not because they aren't great music, they're just not what I'm looking for, right now.

Thanks to all.

Medieval music are variants on simple themes.  They had to memorize the tune, they couldn't do sheet music.  Classical music came from the Medieval, and is much more complicated version of interlacing variants, until the early 19th century (with Romanticism aka Beethoven).  Then in the early 20th century, classical music crashed and burned with Right of Spring ... people in fancy dress in the audience, created a riot and walked out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOTjyCM3Ou4

Stravinsky's neo-paganism was 40 years ahead of its time.  The audience we expecting something more like Debussy.  Music like this would have been familiar to the ancient Greeks, only without an orchestra.  Greek music was chromatic with achromatic accents.

Here is another version ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF1OQkHybEQ

The notes below the video are informative!

Theater starts in Greece, with the crazy Maenads of Dionysus!  The costumes are closer to the ancient Greek, only more N and E from Greece ;-)
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Post by: Baruch on July 12, 2017, 07:53:45 PM
Right of Spring is clearly based on The Bacchai by Euripides ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlXi8LfKv-0

Here is more context to where our movie music came from ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSRLK7SogvE

Here is an actual ancient Greek musical lament for a dead wife commissioned by her grieving husband ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RjBePQV4xE

In 1983, I got to visit Greece, visit the first theater on Earth, the Theater of Dionysus in Athens, under the Acropolis.  And the most perfect theater for the last 2000+ years, the theater at Epidauros.  Which was used by the cult of Asclepius to encourage people to sign up for Obamacare ;-)
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Post by: Baruch on July 12, 2017, 08:16:42 PM
The peak of the Romantic period is Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries ... also recently seen as drama, not music, in Greek version, in Wonder Woman ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeRwBiu4wfQ

The Valkyries are gathering up the valiant dead.

But earlier in Romantic Germany ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SVaUbbXifI

This popular innovation not repeated (chorus and symphony combined) is sung every new year in Japan.  This is what convinced me as a youth, that Classical music could be wonderful.  As per the movie, Beethoven composed and directed this while deaf!  This first performance didn't create a riot, it created tears.

Truly, truly I say unto you ... if you have ears to hear ... music is the voice of G-d.
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Post by: Baruch on July 12, 2017, 08:37:23 PM
Going backward in time, the Italians taught the Germans about music ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFHPRi0ZeXE

Before the Italian classical, there was Italian Renaissance ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5GF6ok4QiY

Galileo's father was a professor of music.

My favorite brass piece by the same composer ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLl-wEnXEgY

Makes me want to cheer ... Viva Il Duce, Viva Lorenzo Magnifico! (Medici).
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Post by: Baruch on July 12, 2017, 10:14:04 PM
Classical genius of first order demonstrated ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMwaiA581AQ

Supposedly Mozart could compose an entire symphony or opera in his head, doing his revisions in his photographic memory ... and then write the entire score for orchestra etc in one go.

Beethoven on the other hand, made countless revisions on the same sheet music ... tink tinking out melody on his pianoforte, while straining with his ear horn to overcome his deafness.
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Post by: Solomon Zorn on July 12, 2017, 10:19:25 PM
At the risk of sounding like my critics, on the John Oliver thread...slow down, Man...I won't be able to listen to all of that, this evening, but I promise to, at least, sample each one, eventually.

And, at the risk of, also, derailing this thread, with an unrelated tangent...

QuoteRight of Spring is clearly based on The Bacchai by Euripides ...

Euripides...the only thing, that I recall about him, is his contrast with Sophocles, over the proper use of, literature/plays...with one being an idealist, and the other a realist...I don't even remember, which was which...
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Post by: Baruch on July 13, 2017, 03:27:24 AM
You wanted Classical music over movie music, though I gave you some of the latter.  I am the guy, who if you ask what time is it ... gives you the history of timepieces back to the sun dial ;-)  I don't know what you like, so I hit all music in the last 2000+ years.  I skipped the Bronze Age (yes we have music from the Bronze Age).  I put my piece on Biblical musical archeology in the Judaism section.  Look at it a piece at a time.  In a parallel universe, I am a digital bloodhound ... howl!

The last one, with scrolling sheet music, was a find.  There is lots more of that, but this particular one (I have a magic touch) parallels the scene in Amadeus where Salieri and Mozart are working together on the Requiem.  That is super special, since it shows the process of creation (the others only show the results of classical music genius).  I am big on JS Bach.  Classical horn ... gives me blue balls though.

JS Bach had to compose a new cantata for Sunday mass, every week.  And manage the boy's choir.  And he still had time to write his own music.  Neither WA Mozart nor JS Bach were human, they are proof that aliens have visited us.

Yes, Euripides invented the anti-hero (realism vs idealism).  He was the least popular, and last in time, of the big three.  Aeschylus, Sophocles and Euripides.  Aeschylus brought in the second actor (antagonist vs protagonist).  Sophocles was the most popular ... his plays are perfection.  All three are still performed, in Greece, in the original language, 2500 years later.  Take that George Lucas!  Theater was religious pageant, political propaganda and entertainment rolled into one.  The Holy Trinity of drama.  Three tragedies, a comedy and a satyr play.  The tragedy comes from the bucolic goatherd song.  The comedy comes from "comos" or revel of the party animals.  The satyr play was ... pornography.  In Rome the equivalent of the satyr plays were ... mimes (also pornography).  The organ was originally powered by water pressure, invented in Greek times, to accompany religious drama.  But used by the Romans at the games (ludi) including gladiator shows and public executions, as we have used the organ at baseball games "Take me out to the execution ..." are the original lyrics ;-)
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Post by: Baruch on July 13, 2017, 06:59:18 PM
To round out musical theater ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyUGtydsCIM
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Post by: Draconic Aiur on July 14, 2017, 01:06:53 AM
Better and a much better masterpiece:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWjzIyDkEIM
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Post by: simplyalex on July 14, 2017, 01:56:33 AM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on July 14, 2017, 01:06:53 AM
Better and a much better masterpiece:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWjzIyDkEIM

I have played the replay button over and over again, I am in love with the lyrics of the song.
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Post by: Cavebear on July 14, 2017, 02:55:32 AM
Claire De Lune and Canon in D Major are 2 of the most beautiful pieces of music I have ever heard.  I want to hear them at the end of my life. 
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Post by: trdsf on July 14, 2017, 12:44:01 PM
If I get to pick music to exit to, I want it to be a selection of preludes, toccatas, passacaglias and fugues by Bach, ending with either the Great Fugue in G minor...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVKsTQpjKEM

or the Passacaglia and Fugue in C Minor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UxIcKJyZZE

And for the record, organist Cameron Carpenter is an unmitigated genius.
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Post by: Cavebear on July 14, 2017, 02:20:16 PM
Is that all related the the 2001 music?