Absolutely slayed the whole thing, but his ending statement was just beautiful.QuoteBut I was asked to not roast the president and the administration in their absentia. And I completely understand that. We are in a very strange situation where there’s a very combative relationship between the press and the president. But now that you guys are minorities, just for this moment, you might understand the position I was in. And it’s the same position a lot of minority kids feel in this country. You know â€" do I come up here and just try to fit in, and not ruffle any feathers? Or do I say how I really feel? Because this event is about celebrating the First Amendment and free speech. Free speech is the foundation of an open and liberal democracy. From college campuses to the White House, only in America can a first-generation, Indian-American Muslim kid get on this stage and make fun of the president. The orange man behind the Muslim ban.
And it’s a sign to the rest of the world. It’s this amazing tradition that shows the entire world that even the president is not beyond the reach of the First Amendment. But the president didn’t show up. Because Donald Trump doesn’t care about free speech. The man who tweets everything that enters his head refuses to acknowledge the amendment that allows him to do it. Think about it, it’s almost â€" what is it, 11? It’s 11 p.m. right now. In four hours, Donald Trump will be tweeting about how bad Nicki Minaj bombed at this dinner, and he’ll be doing it completely sober. And that’s his right. And I’m proud that all of us are here tonight to defend that right, even if the man in the White House never would.
Our posting here is free press and First Amendment. We don't need a press pass. We don't need to have what we write vetted by the CIA/FBI/DNC/RNC. And yes, the Elite don't like us. They tolerate the MSM ... the same way management tolerates its employees.
Trump was right to not show up to this cringe fest to celebrate a free press, something that does not exist. Actual liberals agreed that Obama should never have attended this farce either. With Obama and the media having their heads up eachothers asses, partying together, it made the relationship between the media and the government look like even more of a joke.
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on May 02, 2017, 12:17:48 PM
Trump was right to not show up to this cringe fest to celebrate a free press, something that does not exist. Actual liberals agreed that Obama should never have attended this farce either. With Obama and the media having their heads up eachothers asses, partying together, it made the relationship between the media and the government look like even more of a joke.
I like a good sense of humor anytime ... but it doesn't befit the dignity of the Commander In Chief to do cringe worthy things himself, or to associate with others who are cringe worthy. So I would have to censure the "ankle biting" press and Trump. But then any dignity of office went out the window with St Ronnie or St Billy.
I thought Obama was pretty funny at previous dinners and Trump would have been funny too, but without him there it's just a bunch of unfunny propaganda by shill celebrities. I like Trump jokes when they're being told by someone who's not controlled, like Jimmy Dore calling him Donny Tinyhands. That cracks me up, but when it's some controlled shill celebrity, that's not comedy. It's propaganda disguised as comedy meant to prop up the deplorable Dem establishment.
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on May 02, 2017, 05:45:09 PM
I thought Obama was pretty funny at previous dinners and Trump would have been funny too, but without him there it's just a bunch of unfunny propaganda by shill celebrities. I like Trump jokes when they're being told by someone who's not controlled, like Jimmy Dore calling him Donny Tinyhands. That cracks me up, but when it's some controlled shill celebrity, that's not comedy. It's propaganda disguised as comedy meant to prop up the deplorable Dem establishment.
A. Hollywood wasn't there either.
B. Hassan Minhaj and his boss have called out democrats just as much as republicans, as well as called out the media for being shit at their job. I would hardly call that a shill.
If you're going to talk shit about someone, at least put a little effort into knowing anything about them...
Quote from: Shiranu on May 02, 2017, 08:27:55 PM
A. Hollywood wasn't there either.
B. Hassan Minhaj and his boss have called out democrats just as much as republicans, as well as called out the media for being shit at their job. I would hardly call that a shill.
If you're going to talk shit about someone, at least put a little effort into knowing anything about them...
TV comedians are all corporatists, otherwise they wouldn't be on tv. Making fun of Hillary or the media a bit means nothing. Shills do that sometimes to try and make themselves look less one sided. Like Ben Stein said, we have fake news and we also have fake comedy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxI0G4l3ltA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS0YjUF8v7k
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on May 03, 2017, 11:41:51 AM
TV comedians are all corporatists, otherwise they wouldn't be on tv. Making fun of Hillary or the media a bit means nothing. Shills do that sometimes to try and make themselves look less one sided. Like Ben Stein said, we have fake news and we also have fake comedy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxI0G4l3ltA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS0YjUF8v7k
I see, now Bill Stein is a guru for good comedy? I don't see all comedians as being on the teat of a corporation--yes, some are, but not all by any means. If you want to use that broad of a brush, then I dare say you are a corporation shill as well. With almost every dollar you spend, you are supporting one corporation or another. Sad fact of life in Merika today.
I don't care for Ben Stein but thought that line was funny, as well as true. Fake comedy.
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on May 03, 2017, 11:55:29 AM
I don't care for Ben Stein but thought that line was funny, as well as true. Fake comedy.
Sure.........and fake criticism.
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on May 03, 2017, 11:55:29 AM
I don't care for Ben Stein but thought that line was funny, as well as true. Fake comedy.
but he's a tv comedian, so...
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Quote from: FaithIsFilth on May 03, 2017, 11:55:29 AM
I don't care for Ben Stein but thought that line was funny, as well as true. Fake comedy.
Ferris Buller.....................................Ferris Buller.......................................
Stein needs to take his life off.
Quote from: Mike Cl on May 03, 2017, 12:44:44 PMStein needs to take his life off.
Seriously. Shilling for Nixon, shilling for W Bush ("I think Mr. Bush is going to go down in history as one of the great peacemakers and democracy-builders in the history of the world."), shilling for
creationism intelligent design (no idea who that designer could possibly be, so it's secular, right?)
What a guy to turn to for the great truths of the world. GIGO.
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on May 03, 2017, 11:41:51 AM
TV comedians are all corporatists, otherwise they wouldn't be on tv. Making fun of Hillary or the media a bit means nothing. Shills do that sometimes to try and make themselves look less one sided. Like Ben Stein said, we have fake news and we also have fake comedy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxI0G4l3ltA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS0YjUF8v7k
What a boring argument. Working within the framework of the system makes you a sell out and a corporatist? You probably shouldn't be making that argument while using overpriced internet from a corporation on a computer made by slaves by a corporation while sitting in a chair made by corporations as you get your dirty energy from corporations...
Tell me more about how using a corporation services make you a shill.
Quote from: Hydra009 on May 03, 2017, 12:16:35 PM
but he's a tv comedian, so...
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A tv comedian and a whiney baby at that. One of Stein's big objections to Minhaj was that Minhaj went too far and Minhaj was being hateful. That to me, is beyond ridiculous.
Just because a person is controlled, that doesn't mean it's impossible for them to make me laugh. Minhaj himself had a couple of funny jokes in his WHCD set. I even laughed once or twice during Amy Schumer's latest special and she's one of the most unfunny social justice clowns out there.
Quote from: Shiranu on May 03, 2017, 01:30:57 PM
Tell me more about how using a corporation services make you a shill.
Sure, I help corporations too, but some of these comedians are getting paid in one day, more than I make in a whole year, to prop up the establishment. That's quite a bit different from what I am doing.
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on May 03, 2017, 03:46:14 PM
Sure, I help corporations too, but some of these comedians are getting paid in one day, more than I make in a whole year, to prop up the establishment. That's quite a bit different from what I am doing.
So entertainment shouldn't exist, because it is used to prop up the system by working within it, even if it is one of the biggest voices against the system.
Alrighty then, have fun with that. Or don't, doesn't really matter.
Quote from: Shiranu on May 03, 2017, 05:28:23 PM
So entertainment shouldn't exist, because it is used to prop up the system by working within it, even if it is one of the biggest voices against the system.
Alrighty then, have fun with that. Or don't, doesn't really matter.
The only true voice against the system, is the voice for genocide against humanity. I will skip that.
Sure that type of entertainment should exist. It's very smart to put establishment people in there to in a way make it seem like they are holding the system to account, when in reality they are propping it up by refusing to cover so much that makes the establishment look bad, when there is so much comedic material there. If people enjoy that type of thing, I'm happy for them. There are some talented tv comedians. Colbert is quite talented. It's just not my thing because I see it as mainly propaganda, so it's hard to get into their "comedy".
I can forgive people for being puppets and still enjoy their work though, as long as they aren't pushing that propaganda out almost every day. I have a puppet celeb in my avatar. I don't really care. Some of the actors from Better Call Saul were pushing for the Trump vote to be overturned right before he was sworn in, refusing to accept the people's choice and basically calling for an end to legitimate presidential elections, and I forgave the actors for this and it's still my favourite show. When it's someone's job to do nothing but push out propaganda almost every single day though, no, I'm probably not going to be entertained by that. Obviously you thought Manhaj was funny and I think that's cool. Whether something is funny or not is in the eye of the beholder.
The thing about free speech is that you can use it to deny free speech itself.
Isn't there also a saying about taking up the weapons of your fallen enemies-kinda deal?
I've always enjoyed seeing clips from the correspondent's dinner. It used to have a friendly feel, a time where a sometimes adversarial relationship could take a break, and everyone could just enjoy themselves. But the adversarial relationship cannot ever be friendly in the current political climate that turns spewing hatred into a career. There is no room for laughter in the heart of America. And the correspondent's dinner may have outlived it's purpose.
Quote from: SGOS on May 08, 2017, 07:43:50 AM
I've always enjoyed seeing clips from the correspondent's dinner. It used to have a friendly feel, a time where a sometimes adversarial relationship could take a break, and everyone could just enjoy themselves. But the adversarial relationship cannot ever be friendly in the current political climate that turns spewing hatred into a career. There is no room for laughter in the heart of America. And the correspondent's dinner may have outlived it's purpose.
It is hard to keep a sense of humor, when one side is pushing Neo-lib revolution ... and the other side is pushing Revanchism. Is hanging funny?
Quote from: Baruch on May 08, 2017, 01:06:38 PM
Is hanging funny?
hmmm...could be...
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You got my goat! And that is one of the funnier child restraints. Bet getting the goat down is tricky, and so is changing that baby's diaper.
Quote from: Baruch on May 08, 2017, 10:20:05 PM
You got my goat! And that is one of the funnier child restraints. Bet getting the goat down is tricky, and so is changing that baby's diaper.
Actually, it's a sheep, but either way, you've got to wonder how he got up there.
Just watched the Ben Stein/Fox News reaction... fucking cringe.
Quote from: Shiranu on May 13, 2017, 06:31:29 AM
Just watched the Ben Stein/Fox News reaction... fucking cringe.
Yes indeed. Stein is a right wing social justice warrior. You get nothing but crying and shitty identity politics from these mainstream comedians. Stein crying about hateful speech. Trevor Noah calling people racist for having a problem with a black man taking $400,000 for a Wallstreet speech. Pathetic all around.
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on May 13, 2017, 11:05:15 AM
Yes indeed. Stein is a right wing social justice warrior. You get nothing but crying and shitty identity politics from these mainstream comedians. Stein crying about hateful speech. Trevor Noah calling people racist for having a problem with a black man taking $400,000 for a Wallstreet speech. Pathetic all around.
Anyone taking $400,000 or $3,200,000 for a speech ... is pornographic. Money porn. Nothing immoral about post-facto bribes? Sure it is legal, so is genocide, if you genocide the right people. Hillary got pre-facto bribes ... and was expecting post-facto bribes after the Clinton tribe raped the world some more.
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on May 13, 2017, 11:05:15 AM
Yes indeed. Stein is a right wing social justice warrior. You get nothing but crying and shitty identity politics from these mainstream comedians. Stein crying about hateful speech. Trevor Noah calling people racist for having a problem with a black man taking $400,000 for a Wallstreet speech. Pathetic all around.
This is whiskey red 5, I'm going to need a source for these statements about Noah, over.
Looking at all the quotes from the show, where he made 4 or so jokes about the obama wall street speech, I don't see one place where he is calling anyone racist. The closest is asking why the first black president has to be the first to make the change, or that it"feels" a bit racist for a black guy to have to clean up a white man's mess for free (which is, shockingly coming from a comedian, a joke.).
Quote from: Shiranu on May 13, 2017, 02:12:20 PM
This is whiskey red 5, I'm going to need a source for these statements about Noah, over.
Looking at all the quotes from the show, where he made 4 or so jokes about the obama wall street speech, I don't see one place where he is calling anyone racist. The closest is asking why the first black president has to be the first to make the change, or that it"feels" a bit racist for a black guy to have to clean up a white man's mess for free (which is, shockingly coming from a comedian, a joke.).
Leftists would say ... everyone has to work for free, including Obama. Otherwise you are just a plutocrat in disguise.
Quote from: Shiranu on May 13, 2017, 02:12:20 PM
This is whiskey red 5, I'm going to need a source for these statements about Noah, over.
Looking at all the quotes from the show, where he made 4 or so jokes about the obama wall street speech, I don't see one place where he is calling anyone racist. The closest is asking why the first black president has to be the first to make the change, or that it"feels" a bit racist for a black guy to have to clean up a white man's mess for free (which is, shockingly coming from a comedian, a joke.).
Basically he says that Bill Clinton took the money, so "fuck you" to those of us who don't want the black man taking the money. We're not holding a black man to a different standard though. Obama is not the first politician people have asked to not be a Wall Street sellout. Yeah, Obama's getting more shit than other former Presidents who took the money, but that's because the "get money out of politics" movement is a lot stronger than it has been in the past. This is just coincidence. It's not because we want the black man to be held to a different standard. Using the colour of a man's skin to deflect criticism away from him being a Wall Street sellout is the absolute worst of identity politics. You told me Noah was not a shill, so maybe instead of defending the rich and powerful by saying "he's black, shut up", Obama should be the target of the joke. Maybe, "you thought the black guy would be the first one to agree to not take the money?" That would have been a funny little shot he could have taken at Obama. Or maybe a joke about hope and change being a sham. But no, instead he attacks the little man for taking issue with rich, corrupt sellouts.
Okay, so if a comedian doesn't appeal to your sense of humour then he is a fake comedian and a shill.
Have fun with that then.