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Title: Are you ready for the SHTF?
Post by: fencerider on April 06, 2017, 01:16:59 AM
North Korea is only a few months away from having a nuclear missile capable of hitting the western half of the U.S. with a crazy person holding the button. Yesterday Assad made another poison gas attack in Syria.... and D.Trump is in the White house.
Title: Re: Are you ready for the STHF?
Post by: Baruch on April 06, 2017, 07:35:21 AM
Quote from: fencerider on April 06, 2017, 01:16:59 AM
North Korea is only a few months away from having a nuclear missile capable of hitting the western half of the U.S. with a crazy person holding the button. Yesterday Assad made another poison gas attack in Syria.... and D.Trump is in the White house.

Too bad Dr Bloefeld Hillary isn't in her underground complex.  Damn that 007!

What you said ... may be true.  It isn't clear who or why the gas tragedy happened in Syria ... just as it was several years ago, when Obama nearly got us in nuclear war with Russia (go Peace Prize).  NorK missiles can reach Japan now, isn't that serious enough?  Given Fukushima, maybe the Japanese aren't worth nuking again.  More seriously, if the Chinese fail to prevent the NorK insanity (if they are really insane, and not just playing at one) ... then there are going to be one billion less Chinese ... and a lot of other folks.  Also directly attacking Russia in Syria ... is the same deal.  We are already 1000% too aggressive in E Europe.  Where I live and work in the US, given what I do, will be one of 1000 places in the US that can cease to exist ... any day now.  I have lived with this for over 6 decades.  Did you really think peace had broken out?
Title: Re: Are you ready for the STHF?
Post by: PopeyesPappy on April 06, 2017, 09:53:11 AM
We're probably more prepared for your general SHTF scenario than most. We've got plans, bug out bags with enough stuff to last for a week or so if we have to get out in a hurry. 3 months worth of food. Enough guns and ammo to arm the neighbors against anything short of a large scale organized assault. Karen is a little paranoid of storms so we'll probably be putting a 4x8 above ground steel storm shelter in the garage latter this year.

Nukes pose a problem though as we're just a couple of miles from what's probably a primary target for the Russians.

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f158/popeyespappy/Distance_zpsgdm0prvu.jpg)

I've read that the Russian's like 400 kt yield weapons. If we were home, and they dropped one on the MDA HQ we'd be out of the 5 psi over pressure zone but well withing the 10 k/cal thermal zone.

(http://i.imgur.com/XhMeZrt.jpg)

That's 3rd degree burns from the thermal. I don't know if it would set the building on fire though. Plus just because we're out of the 5 psi over pressure zone doesn't mean there still would be enough pressure to collapse the building. So even if we were in the storm shelter and it saved us from the blast, chances are the building could collapse around us and burn while we sat in a big fucking oven.

Title: Re: Are you ready for the STHF?
Post by: Mr.Obvious on April 06, 2017, 10:36:13 AM
Sthf? Can't find that acronym. :(
Title: Re: Are you ready for the STHF?
Post by: Sorginak on April 06, 2017, 10:39:12 AM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on April 06, 2017, 10:36:13 AM
Sthf? Can't find that acronym. :(

I wonder the same thing, because this is all I found:

STHF   Star Trek: Hidden Frontier
STHF   Single-Term Hartree-Fock
STHF   Sonic the Hedgehog Freak
STHF   Space Technology Hall of Fame
STHF   Soluble Tumour Haemolytic Factor (cancer)
Title: Re: Are you ready for the STHF?
Post by: jwheel69 on April 06, 2017, 11:14:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZdp46Jen_w
Title: Re: Are you ready for the STHF?
Post by: Hydra009 on April 06, 2017, 11:37:52 AM
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on April 06, 2017, 09:53:11 AMWe're probably more prepared for your general SHTF scenario than most. We've got plans, bug out bags with enough stuff to last for a week or so if we have to get out in a hurry. 3 months worth of food. Enough guns and ammo to arm the neighbors against anything short of a large scale organized assault. Karen is a little paranoid of storms so we'll probably be putting a 4x8 above ground steel storm shelter in the garage latter this year.
I have two days worth of food, a really sharp chopping knife, and a psychological addiction to the internet.  Avenge me.
Title: Re: Are you ready for the STHF?
Post by: Mr.Obvious on April 06, 2017, 04:17:49 PM
Quote from: Sorginak on April 06, 2017, 10:39:12 AM
I wonder the same thing, because this is all I found:

STHF   Star Trek: Hidden Frontier
STHF   Single-Term Hartree-Fock
STHF   Sonic the Hedgehog Freak
STHF   Space Technology Hall of Fame
STHF   Soluble Tumour Haemolytic Factor (cancer)

Op meant shtf
Shit hit the fan
I am guessing
Title: Re: Are you ready for the STHF?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on April 06, 2017, 04:20:01 PM
And that's why they call you Mr. Obvious?
Title: Re: Are you ready for the STHF?
Post by: The Skeletal Atheist on April 06, 2017, 06:36:14 PM
I have a gun and there's a lot of fat people where I live, I think I'll have plenty to eat.
Title: Re: Are you ready for the STHF?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on April 06, 2017, 06:40:59 PM
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on April 06, 2017, 06:36:14 PM
I have a gun and there's a lot of fat people where I live, I think I'll have plenty to eat.
Yeah, I was just thinking "Eat me!"
Title: Re: Are you ready for the STHF?
Post by: Mr.Obvious on April 06, 2017, 07:12:02 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on April 06, 2017, 04:20:01 PM
And that's why they call you Mr. Obvious?

It's what I do.

To be fair though. I'd never heard of the acronym 'shtf' before. I had no idea it was something frequently used and well known neither. And to see 'sthf' instead, with no context to understand, was genuinely confusing.
Title: Re: Are you ready for the STHF?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on April 06, 2017, 07:25:10 PM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on April 06, 2017, 07:12:02 PM
It's what I do.

To be fair though. I'd never heard of the acronym 'shtf' before. I had no idea it was something frequently used and well known neither. And to see 'sthf' instead, with no context to understand, was genuinely confusing.
I was just teasing, of course. "When TSHTF..." is one of my tediously repetitive cousins' favorite ways of trying to scare me into admitting that the Illuminati are about to destroy America, as they have been about to do for the past fifty years insofar as I can tell.
Title: Re: Are you ready for the STHF?
Post by: fencerider on April 06, 2017, 10:20:29 PM
Trump just launched 50 Tomahawk missiles into Syria. There's no going back now.
Title: Re: Are you ready for the STHF?
Post by: Hydra009 on April 06, 2017, 10:27:25 PM
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on April 06, 2017, 06:36:14 PM
I have a gun and there's a lot of fat people where I live, I think I'll have plenty to eat.
Sanctuary for all. Community for all. Those who arrive survive.
Title: Re: Are you ready for the STHF?
Post by: fencerider on April 06, 2017, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: Baruch on April 06, 2017, 07:35:21 AM
NorK missiles can reach Japan now, isn't that serious enough?

Sorry I should have been more detailed. N Korea already had nuclear bombs. Two weeks ago N.K. successfully launched an ICBM. It has been confirmed in the last few days that it is capable of reaching the U.S. (possible as far east as Denver). The only piece left for N.K. to figure out is how to miniaturize the bomb to make it fit in a missile.
Title: Re: Are you ready for the SHTF?
Post by: PickelledEggs on April 06, 2017, 10:48:25 PM
I gotta be completely honest... I don't completely know how I feel about Trump bombing Syria's base...
Title: Re: Are you ready for the STHF?
Post by: fencerider on April 06, 2017, 10:52:12 PM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on April 06, 2017, 10:36:13 AM
Sthf? Can't find that acronym. :(

sorry for the typo

do you know this phrase snafu? that means situation normal all fkd up

SHTF means the Chump can get us all screwed up
Title: Re: Are you ready for the SHTF?
Post by: Baruch on April 06, 2017, 11:17:34 PM
Trying to impress President Xi of China, while he is here to talk over the NorK situation?  If our hands were clean with ISIS, that would be one thing, but ISIS works for us.  I am sure we would love to whip up the Uighers in W China, just to give the Chinese something to think about.
Title: Re: Are you ready for the SHTF?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on April 07, 2017, 09:12:40 PM
Quote from: fencerider on April 06, 2017, 10:52:12 PM
sorry for the typo

do you know this phrase snafu? that means situation normal all fkd up

SHTF means the Chump can get us all screwed up
Actually, you're looking for FUBAR.