Republicans vote to allow ISPs to sell your private data
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/03/28/republicans-are-poised-to-roll-back-landmark-fcc-privacy-rules-heres-what-you-need-to-know/?utm_term=.8d585ea44065
So, Republican enablers, why do you think this is a good idea? You are aware that the Republicans shit on privacy and place the interests of corporations over your own interests, are you not? But you still worship the ground they walk on.
List of trai people with alternative loyalties than their constituencies and how much it cost to buy them:
http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/29/15100620/congress-fcc-isp-web-browsing-privacy-fire-sale
Note the party affiliation.
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 30, 2017, 03:34:02 PM
List of trai people with alternative loyalties than their constituencies and how much it cost to buy them:
http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/29/15100620/congress-fcc-isp-web-browsing-privacy-fire-sale
Note the party affiliation.
The privacy rule, hadn't gone into effect yet, not till the end of this year. So they cancelled what hasn't happened yet, but was planned, by those who were too scared to enact it while still in office. I am looking at you, Obama-nator. The ISPs have been selling your souls to Lexus-Nexis for years now .. what do you think those little ad popups are? And they are in the pocket of the MIC, the NSA knows every single web site you go to, including this one.
Like I said elsewhere, welcome to prison planet (who else said that?). Hope you enjoy your cattle car ride to Neo-lib-con-witz. Many of you are willing debt slaves ... how long until you get sent down South to pick cotton, after the Mexicans are sent home?
They can look at my private information, so long as they like viewing gay porn.
Quote from: Sorginak on March 30, 2017, 07:40:10 PM
They can look at my private information, so long as they like viewing gay porn.
Gay porn is good and all, but now that both the state and corporations are looking at my viewing habits I think I'm gonna diversify my porn portfolio to include weirder stuff.
kinki porn huh. I never thought about running my own dissinformation campaign, but it did cross my mind when this came up last week that its a short road to The Fifth Element opening scene where Bruce Willis is told he has so many minutes to get to work before he gets to max demerits where it appears he forfeits his right to live...
They've all gone crazy. Must have been some good drugs at the inaugaration parties cause they havent done one sensible thing yet.... unless you count today putting Christi in charge of finding a cure to the drug problem
Quote from: Sorginak on March 30, 2017, 07:40:10 PMThey can look at my private information, so long as they like viewing gay porn.
It's not only the snooping, it's going to be the deluge of extremely targeted adverts from god knows where and more effective phishing/social engineering attacks.
For example: "A watering hole attack is a security exploit in which the attacker seeks to compromise a specific group of end users by infecting websites that members of the group are known to visit." And how might the attacker know which sites the targets visit?
Also, take a wild guess which party just secured ISP backing in future elections. The ISPs been trying to pay off both sides for years, and now that they have one on lock - the one with the majorities in all branches of government - why bother with the other? The Republicans are going to be Yes Men from now on - not because of some ideological love for this legislation - but because backing this will ultimately help them getting elected and reelected.
We're looking at a Frey-Lannister alliance in the making. Ousting these cretins just became that much harder.
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 31, 2017, 04:16:10 AM
It's not only the snooping, it's going to be the deluge of extremely targeted adverts from god knows where and more effective phishing/social engineering attacks.
For example: "A watering hole attack is a security exploit in which the attacker seeks to compromise a specific group of end users by infecting websites that members of the group are known to visit." And how might the attacker know which sites the targets visit?
Also, take a wild guess which party just secured ISP backing in future elections. The ISPs been trying to pay off both sides for years, and now that they have one on lock - the one with the majorities in all branches of government - why bother with the other? The Republicans are going to be Yes Men from now on - not because of some ideological love for this legislation - but because backing this will ultimately help them getting elected and reelected.
We're looking at a Frey-Lannister alliance in the making. Ousting these cretins just became that much harder.
I don't usually spend much time agreeing with you Hydra, but you're spot on here. The big IPs will be dumping billions into ads now to prop up TV preaching politicians to vote for.
Isn't that why we have Adblock and VPNs?
Quote from: Sorginak on March 31, 2017, 11:00:35 PMIsn't that why we have Adblock and VPNs?
Adblock doesn't prevent your ISPs from seeing anything. It only prevents your browser from displaying the ads.
VPNs can encrypt data traveling from your computer to whatever site you're accessing (it would be scrambled from your ISP's perspective) but using a VPN isn't a magic bullet (http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/25/15056290/vpn-isp-internet-privacy-security-fcc-repeal). Think of a VPN less as an invisibility cloak and more like camo fatigues.
One relatively minor but important thing you can do is use https when possible. It doesn't obscure who you are or the site you're accessing, but it does obscure the data you're exchanging.
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on March 30, 2017, 08:26:14 PM
Gay porn is good and all, but now that both the state and corporations are looking at my viewing habits I think I'm gonna diversify my porn portfolio to include weirder stuff.
I know of a few hentai sites you could check out. For science, of course.
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on March 30, 2017, 08:26:14 PM
Gay porn is good and all, but now that both the state and corporations are looking at my viewing habits I think I'm gonna diversify my porn portfolio to include weirder stuff.
LOL That'll show 'em.
i call it a double-slam. Maybe it wouldn't be as unappetizing if they had to pay royalties for using OUR information. Its a multi-billion dollar industry and they dont have to pay us a penny.
here's a dissinformation campaign idea... there are a whole lot of kinki Japanese games shows; I'll have to figure out how to work the hentai into it.
I heard some VPN protect the data from your ISP, but they would still be able to see what website you were on and for how long. That's basic network connectivity. If your computer doesnt tell your ISP who you want to talk to they cant make the connection.
FYI lets not forget the law covers all electronic devices: internet, cable, cell phone, tablet
There used to be software that enabled you to go online anonymously. Does anybody know if that still works or the providers figured out how to beat it? (one you logged into their website and then every website you go to is routed through their system which replaces id info with the id of the website)
Quote from: fencerider on April 02, 2017, 05:11:05 PMThere used to be software that enabled you to go online anonymously. Does anybody know if that still works or the providers figured out how to beat it? (one you logged into their website and then every website you go to is routed through their system which replaces id info with the id of the website)
I'd be very interested to learn what sort of software you're referring to. Tor, maybe?
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 02, 2017, 06:47:59 PM
I'd be very interested to learn what sort of software you're referring to. Tor, maybe?
Tor was invented to allow political dissidents to operate on-line, in spite of home country laws restricting free speech (seems like a million years ago). This was developed by the CIA (and DARPA) to recruit foreign dissidents. Even if their repressive home regimes couldn't track them, the CIA could selectively turn these people, into agents against their home countries. Of course all intelligence agencies to this. This is why some anonymity online is important .. do you want the Chinese secret services recruiting you, because of some Chinese porn you were watching? This will only happen though, if you are "a person of interest". Now that we all know that the CIA and GCHQ are totally rogue ... I don't see much difference between them and the Russians or Chinese.
Remember; Republicans and Democrats are basically the same, amirite, so who cares?
Of course they did, because fuck you and hail corporate.
Quote from: Shiranu on April 02, 2017, 11:48:50 PMRemember; Republicans and Democrats are basically the same, amirite, so who cares?
Yeah. Aside from major policy disputes, differing foundational values and goals, they're practically identical.
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 03, 2017, 01:40:47 AM
Yeah. Aside from major policy disputes, differing foundational values and goals, they're practically identical.
As long as they are both human, then they are the same. Vote for the Robot party. Just say no to Humans.
Trump signed it into law. It's official now.
And I feel like I should point this out, because this bill has been framed as a dispute between left-wing and right-wing philosophies. It's not.
This is a deeply unpopular bill among both liberals and conservatives. According to a YouGov poll (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-online-privacy-poll_us_58e295e7e4b0f4a923b0d94a), just 6% of respondents agreed that ISPs should be able to sell its customers' information without first getting their customers' permission. Six percent. That's a "Hitler did nothing wrong" grade unpopular opinion.
The Republican "representatives" who voted for this bill - from the House to the Senate to the Presidency - just violated the will of their constituents. The question is, knowing this, are these voters going to withdraw their support? Or will they roll over and take it?
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 04, 2017, 10:32:51 PM
The question is, knowing this, are these voters going to withdraw their support? Or will they roll over and take it?
We have entered an age of horror that will damn this country.
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 04, 2017, 10:32:51 PM
Trump signed it into law. It's official now.
And I feel like I should point this out, because this bill has been framed as a dispute between left-wing and right-wing philosophies. It's not.
This is a deeply unpopular bill among both liberals and conservatives. According to a YouGov poll (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-online-privacy-poll_us_58e295e7e4b0f4a923b0d94a), just 6% of respondents agreed that ISPs should be able to sell its customers' information without first getting their customers' permission. Six percent. That's a "Hitler did nothing wrong" grade unpopular opinion.
The Republican "representatives" who voted for this bill - from the House to the Senate to the Presidency - just violated the will of their constituents. The question is, knowing this, are these voters going to withdraw their support? Or will they roll over and take it?
You know good and well that the voters will lay down, spread their legs, and bite the fucking pillow.
Up next: Net Neutrality.
Quote from: Sorginak on April 04, 2017, 10:34:52 PM
We have entered an age of horror that will damn this country.
Where were you, Nov 22, 1963? You don't know the 60s. I hope this ride isn't as exciting.
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 04, 2017, 10:32:51 PM
Trump signed it into law. It's official now.
And I feel like I should point this out, because this bill has been framed as a dispute between left-wing and right-wing philosophies. It's not.
This is a deeply unpopular bill among both liberals and conservatives. According to a YouGov poll (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-online-privacy-poll_us_58e295e7e4b0f4a923b0d94a), just 6% of respondents agreed that ISPs should be able to sell its customers' information without first getting their customers' permission. Six percent. That's a "Hitler did nothing wrong" grade unpopular opinion.
The Republican "representatives" who voted for this bill - from the House to the Senate to the Presidency - just violated the will of their constituents. The question is, knowing this, are these voters going to withdraw their support? Or will they roll over and take it?
Unfortunately, the R reps who are unhappy with the bill, even if they voted for it, are probably only unhappy, that they aren't getting their rentier cut ... but maybe they will get some money in an unmarked paper bag, come election time. Have patience, pols! D reps are the usual hypocrits.
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on April 04, 2017, 11:05:28 PM
You know good and well that the voters will lay down, spread their legs, and bite the fucking pillow.
Baaaah! Animaniacs vs furries.
Oops, I dropped a list of which politicians voted on this bill (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aiSs2gfAnv4oowfSYiQegKr24l_DWia-c4-loagDMaI/edit#gid=114172239) and how much it cost to buy their vote.
I sure hope no one uses this information to hold politicians accountable for what they have done and either primary them or vote for their competitor in the next election. It would be such a shame if that were to happen.
Quote from: Baruch on April 05, 2017, 07:01:37 AM
Where were you, Nov 22, 1963? You don't know the 60s. I hope this ride isn't as exciting.
How old do you think I am? I missed being a millennial by one year.
Quote from: Sorginak on April 05, 2017, 05:06:57 PM
How old do you think I am? I missed being a millennial by one year.
The 60s were much more fun than now .. unfortunately young people can't get a perspective on that.
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 05, 2017, 05:02:52 PM
Oops, I dropped a list of which politicians voted on this bill (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aiSs2gfAnv4oowfSYiQegKr24l_DWia-c4-loagDMaI/edit#gid=114172239) and how much it cost to buy their vote.
I sure hope no one uses this information to hold politicians accountable for what they have done and either primary them or vote for their competitor in the next election. It would be such a shame if that were to happen.
You aren't living in the US. We love liars, frauds and thieves.