Atheistforums

The Debate Hall => Formal Debates => Topic started by: Solomon Zorn on March 29, 2017, 12:36:35 PM

Title: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Solomon Zorn on March 29, 2017, 12:36:35 PM
As soon as He shows up, we can work out the subject and details of the debate...
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: SGOS on March 29, 2017, 12:44:31 PM
Thank God for the archives, where this thread can be stored forever.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Solomon Zorn on March 29, 2017, 01:34:30 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Thank God for the archives, where this thread can be stored forever.
I'm sure he'll be along shortly...
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Baruch on March 29, 2017, 06:42:50 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Thank God for the archives, where this thread can be stored forever.

Dead Sea Tupperware is better ... stores both scrolls and kosher leftovers ;-)
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: God on March 29, 2017, 06:53:17 PM
Yes, my child, what is it?
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Solomon Zorn on March 29, 2017, 10:56:32 PM
"Oh, No! They say he's got to go..."

Okay, you've got the "purposeful grimace," but where's the "terrible sound?"

Silly lizard...I don't think you're the real Zilla...
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Baruch on March 30, 2017, 12:06:47 AM
Probably just Chibi Zilla.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: God on March 30, 2017, 02:02:13 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
"Oh, No! They say he's got to go..."

Okay, you've got the "purposeful grimace," but where's the "terrible sound?"

Silly lizard...I don't think you're the real Zilla...
Look, I'm a busy deity, and setting up a cross-dimensional internet connection isn't exactly easy. Cut me some slack.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Solomon Zorn on March 30, 2017, 03:32:39 AM
King Kong was a stop-motion animation model...

Gojira was a man in a rubber suit...

I suspect God is a sockpuppet...
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 30, 2017, 04:35:17 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Silly lizard...I don't think you're the real Zilla...

Let's get an expert's opinion.

Oh, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login what do you think?
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on March 30, 2017, 11:03:53 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I suspect God is a sockpuppet...
No... you think? How many people do you know who refer to Godzilla as their Lord and Lizard? :lol:

Honestly I was just amazed that "God" wasn't taken and, well, I had to do it.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: SGOS on March 30, 2017, 11:27:04 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Honestly I was just amazed that "God" wasn't taken and, well, I had to do it.
No one should ever take God's name...
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Solomon Zorn on March 30, 2017, 03:54:55 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
No... you think? How many people do you know who refer to Godzilla as their Lord and Lizard? :lol:

Honestly I was just amazed that "God" wasn't taken and, well, I had to do it.
I had you pegged as the culprit, but for some reason I thought you would know that, your Lord and Lizard's name, Gojira, actually means something more like "Gorilla-Whale," than "God -Lizard."

But yeah, I mean, just the same, who could resist the unused name...
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Solomon Zorn on March 30, 2017, 04:00:04 PM
But now, what's God gonna call himself when He logs-on?
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on March 30, 2017, 07:17:30 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
But now, what's God gonna call himself when He logs-on?
I imagine he'll use his real name.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Baruch on March 30, 2017, 07:31:38 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
No one should ever take God's name...

It is G-d ... you gentiles ;-)
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on March 30, 2017, 09:38:02 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
It is G-d ... you gentiles ;-)
Technically it's YHWH. How that's actually supposed to be pronounced is a matter for debate.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Baruch on March 30, 2017, 11:50:56 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Technically it's YHWH. How that's actually supposed to be pronounced is a matter for debate.

Not really.  Only the Jewish High Priest knew how or was allowed to pronounce it, and only on Yom Kippur.  And the last Jewish High Priest died 1947 years ago.  But the approximate translation "I am, what I am" isn't far from the truth.  Not "It is, what It is".

In Kabbalah and Aggadah, G-d has many names, each an archangel.  In angelology ... John the Baptist being Sandalphon and Jesus being Metatron.  In their angel forms they are seraphim ... fire angels.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Munch on March 31, 2017, 08:00:30 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

I suspect God is a sockpuppet...

(https://m.popkey.co/a474e0/JLwLA.gif)
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mousetrap on July 04, 2018, 03:22:46 AM
I woke yesterday and had the urge to seek a forum where atheists are calling upon God.
I searched on Google and this forum popped up.
I registered last night and this morning received confirmation that I can attend here.
something said I should look at the debates.
I found this one where an atheist decided to debate God.
I see he was waiting for a while, but why was I sent here?
Anyhow, I perceive God sent me here to speak to you.
What do you want?
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 04, 2018, 04:02:13 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I woke yesterday and had the urge to seek a forum where atheists are calling upon God.
I searched on Google and this forum popped up.
I registered last night and this morning received confirmation that I can attend here.
something said I should look at the debates.
I found this one where an atheist decided to debate God.
I see he was waiting for a while, but why was I sent here?
Anyhow, I perceive God sent me here to speak to you.
What do you want?

Ask Him to tell it to Sol himself.

Solomon is no longer with us, sadly.

He is missed.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mousetrap on July 04, 2018, 05:26:31 AM
Obviously I was not sent to talk to Sol.
 :headscratch:
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 04, 2018, 05:30:27 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Obviously I was not sent to talk to Sol.
 :headscratch:

Well, it would be impressive and certainly help your case if you were.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mousetrap on July 04, 2018, 06:02:36 AM
Obvious-ly you perhaps?
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 04, 2018, 06:24:32 AM
Any of us would do I imagine.
It's about 90% of what we do here, anyways. Talking. :p

You're from South Africa, huh? I'm from Belgium, so we're close to the same or  the same time-zone.
It get more lively during our nights, sadly that makes it so I'm often not on top of a lot of new threads and such.
I have reacted to yours, though.
If you want to talk about something, I'm all ears. (You'll have to excuse any infrequent replies though. I am at work.)
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mousetrap on July 04, 2018, 06:51:21 AM
Yes I saw you are living in Belguim.
Great country.
Have a few friends from Flandre, and some Dutch pals.
I dream to visit Germany, Holland, Belguim and Poland in the near future.

To be honest, I was really interested to speak to the gentlemen that made this thread where he waited for God to talk to him.
But unfortunately, he seems to have left.
It would be very interesting to speak to someone that would think God will join this forum and debate with him.

I can see the irony about his display, but would love to have continued this debate.

Just think what fun if an Atheist debates with God.
He dont believe in God, but wants to debate Him.
 :cool: :cool2:
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mousetrap on July 04, 2018, 06:52:38 AM
Oh, and I am also at work.
(supporting 40 million unemployed.)
LOL
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 04, 2018, 07:01:42 AM
Flanders here as well.

Ik denk dat wij, met een beetje moeite, zo ook zouden kunnen praten.

In any case, I'm hoping you'll find what you seek on this forum.
Though I don't think you'll find many people who'd debate with God without believing he exists.
And those who do believe, I imagine, should be humble enough not to try :D
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mousetrap on July 04, 2018, 07:17:13 AM
U praat byna net soos ek!
Weet jy dat jy eintlik Afrikaans praat, maar met 'n aksent van iemand wat dagga rook?
I am only on this forum to investigate Atheism, to understand why Atheists claim that they have evidence that there can not be a divine creator.
To me, this will be the last knowledge to obtain in my study of religions.

Enjoy your day pal.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 04, 2018, 07:26:25 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
U praat byna net soos ek!
Weet jy dat jy eintlik Afrikaans praat, maar met 'n aksent van iemand wat dagga rook?
I am only on this forum to investigate Atheism, to understand why Atheists claim that they have evidence that there can not be a divine creator.
To me, this will be the last knowledge to obtain in my study of religions.

Enjoy your day pal.

I was with you until 'wat dagga rook', no idea mate :p
I  am not a strong atheist, i don't claim to have evidence of non-existance. I just don't see evidence of existance of god.

And you enjoy yours!
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mousetrap on July 04, 2018, 07:31:49 AM
Naa, I made a joke.
The translation is that you speak Afrikaans almost like me but with an accent of someone smoking (rook) hashish (dagga =south african name for hashish )
We here like to joke about the dutch speaking the way they do, and having smoke shops selling hash.

From my side, I am an investigator of all philosophies, including theoretical sciences.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Baruch on July 04, 2018, 07:35:28 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
U praat byna net soos ek!
Weet jy dat jy eintlik Afrikaans praat, maar met 'n aksent van iemand wat dagga rook?
I am only on this forum to investigate Atheism, to understand why Atheists claim that they have evidence that there can not be a divine creator.
To me, this will be the last knowledge to obtain in my study of religions.

Enjoy your day pal.

I am a token theist here ;-)  Would be happy to discuss the many pros and cons of human idealism (which is where human thought comes from ... ideas you know).  People here range from 20s to 70s mostly.  My favorite online pastor right now is a Dutch Reformed Church guy in Sacramento California.  Though not because he is Christian ... I am Jewish myself.  And most Jewish people are atheist, though I am not.

There are people here who were never religious, and some who are ex-religious.  And me ... a heretic.  It is good of you to explore the possibilities.

Actual debates here, or anywhere, run aground on the shoals of semantics.  We don't agree on the definitions of words, and that is even when we share the same language or general culture.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Baruch on July 04, 2018, 07:38:19 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Obviously I was not sent to talk to Sol.
 :headscratch:

Sol was an older fellow, in poor health, who had an artistic temperament (poetry and music).  There are several artistic types here.  A few science geeks as well.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: SGOS on July 04, 2018, 07:46:39 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I am only on this forum to investigate Atheism, to understand why Atheists claim that they have evidence that there can not be a divine creator.
To me, this will be the last knowledge to obtain in my study of religions.
You are seeking understanding of what is an exception to a rule.  Some atheists claim to have evidence that there cannot be a divine creator.  But most atheists would disagree with them.  Such evidence is more in the category of opinion.  It's no more valid than the opinion that there is a divine creator.  But a few atheists will not like my opinion, if that makes you happy.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mike Cl on July 04, 2018, 09:27:46 AM
I will offer this.  I see the total lack of any evidence at all is proof that there is no god.  God is totally man-made; god did not make mankind, man created god out of whole cloth.  I will say the same about Jesus.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Baruch on July 04, 2018, 10:28:48 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I will offer this.  I see the total lack of any evidence at all is proof that there is no god.  God is totally man-made; god did not make mankind, man created god out of whole cloth.  I will say the same about Jesus.

Unfortunately that is reverse abduction, not reverse deduction.

If A then B ... no B then no A is correct (Modus Tollens).

What is correct is If only-A then B ... no B then no A is what you mean.  There can be If C then B ... no B ... then maybe C or A depending.

You are correct that religion is man-made, so is scripture etc ... so is science and math.  There is no science or math without humans (or other sentients).  Plato would disagree .. you agree with Plato, then you are not a scientist, you are a particular kind of philosopher.  Your arguments against the Bible, which are justified, are the same arguments Plato made against Homer's writings.  Plato invented the university system BTW ... and we see that still in our colleges ... disturbed young people who are a threat to society ... exactly why the Athenians executed Socrates, and largely rejected Plato.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mousetrap on July 04, 2018, 10:40:13 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I will offer this.  I see the total lack of any evidence at all is proof that there is no god.  God is totally man-made; god did not make mankind, man created god out of whole cloth.  I will say the same about Jesus.
My problem with this logic is that man only discovered say...infrared and ultra violet light less than a 100 years ago.
The philosophical question would be, did Ultraviolet and infra red light exist before it was discovered?
to say there is lack of evidence to claim that there is no Creator, is no scientific deduction as proven by Baruch, the scribe.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Baruch on July 04, 2018, 10:48:28 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
My problem with this logic is that man only discovered say...infrared and ultra violet light less than a 100 years ago.
The philosophical question would be, did Ultraviolet and infra red light exist before it was discovered?
to say there is lack of evidence to claim that there is no Creator, is no scientific deduction as proven by Baruch, the scribe.

Unfortunately, actual logic is real hard.  And is as only good as your BS axioms.  It works real well for plane geometry however.  This is why something really complicated, like theology or philosophy never can agree on anything.

To clarify for others ... if there are more than one cause for B ... then the lack of B isn't disproof of any particular cause, particularly if the lack of B is circumstantial not universal.  If not-B is universal, then all the causes of B are false, not just one.  Yes, it is that complicated.

My experience is that ... B.  His experience is that ... not B.  What is the justification for our variance?  Well, we don't agree on what B is, both semantically and factually.  My view of B is variant from other theologies, so I don't even agree with people who would be superficially close to my view.  This doesn't invalidate the existential experience of any human being however.  That gets us to absolutist objectivism ... which would deny all subjectivism.  What is ironic about most atheists is that they unconsciously and irrationally mix both objective and subjective POV ... which is inevitable for any human being, because we swim in both oceans.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on July 04, 2018, 10:56:15 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I woke yesterday and had the urge to seek a forum where atheists are calling upon God.
I searched on Google and this forum popped up.
I registered last night and this morning received confirmation that I can attend here.
something said I should look at the debates.
I found this one where an atheist decided to debate God.
I see he was waiting for a while, but why was I sent here?
Anyhow, I perceive God sent me here to speak to you.
What do you want?
You realize you're speaking to a dead man, right? Solomon Zorn died about a year ago.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Baruch on July 04, 2018, 11:02:43 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You realize you're speaking to a dead man, right? Solomon Zorn died about a year ago.

He did not, but he was elliptically informed of this earlier in this thread.  In my POV, Solomon Zorn is still with us, but y'all can disbelieve that if y'all want to ;-)
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mike Cl on July 04, 2018, 12:59:52 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
My problem with this logic is that man only discovered say...infrared and ultra violet light less than a 100 years ago.
The philosophical question would be, did Ultraviolet and infra red light exist before it was discovered?
to say there is lack of evidence to claim that there is no Creator, is no scientific deduction as proven by Baruch, the scribe.
Because humans have not discovered all there is to discover proves god?????  Or even indicates god???? And before flight; 'if god wanted man to fly, He would have given him wings.' --before anything was discovered it was claimed man should not do that because god had not allowed man to do that.  That has been proven wrong each and every time; sort of like the end of the world predictions--proven wrong every time. 

Mousetrap, I don't believe in anything.  I don't 'believe' the sun will come up tomorrow.  I think it will, for it has done so for millions of years and will do so for millions after.  Belief has nothing to do with it.  Plus, it does not 'rise' anyway, since it is only an illusion caused by the rotation of the earth relative to the sun.  Yet religion is still mired in the times when god allowed the sun to rise.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mousetrap on July 05, 2018, 10:27:15 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Yet religion is still mired in the times when god allowed the sun to rise.
Religion is a wide and huge entity with many universes.
One such a galaxy is called, the religion of not believing in anything.

Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Baruch on July 05, 2018, 11:27:03 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Religion is a wide and huge entity with many universes.
One such a galaxy is called, the religion of not believing in anything.

More like a philosophy ... but when science is called "knowledge" then everything is science.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Hakurei Reimu on July 05, 2018, 12:41:39 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Religion is a wide and huge entity with many universes.
One such a galaxy is called, the religion of not believing in anything.
You're mixing your levels, bro. Galaxy ≠ universe.

Anyway, the religion of not believing in anything is, I assure you, completely barren. I believe in some things. I just don't believe in your god.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Unbeliever on July 05, 2018, 01:20:20 PM
Even if God does exist, at the very least he's irrelevant, since he doesn't do anything. He doesn't answer prayer, he doesn't punish the evildoers, he doesn't reward the faithful. He isn't making the world a better place for us to live. He does nothing at all, and can therefore be discounted.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mike Cl on July 05, 2018, 02:09:15 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Religion is a wide and huge entity with many universes.
And every single religious universe is based upon belief and not empirical data.  That my friend, is called wishful thinking.

Personally I don't 'believe' in anything.  However, I do know the universe I live in is real and that understanding is backed by data and evidence, not wishful thinking.  The downside to that is that I don't know everything--very little actually, but what I do know is fact based--not wishful thinking. 
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Baruch on July 05, 2018, 02:50:40 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Even if God does exist, at the very least he's irrelevant, since he doesn't do anything. He doesn't answer prayer, he doesn't punish the evildoers, he doesn't reward the faithful. He isn't making the world a better place for us to live. He does nothing at all, and can therefore be discounted.

Is that you, Epicurus?  Or perhaps Lucretius?  Marcus Tullio Cicero says y'all are full of it, and not polenta either!
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Baruch on July 05, 2018, 02:51:20 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
And every single religious universe is based upon belief and not empirical data.  That my friend, is called wishful thinking.

Personally I don't 'believe' in anything.  However, I do know the universe I live in is real and that understanding is backed by data and evidence, not wishful thinking.  The downside to that is that I don't know everything--very little actually, but what I do know is fact based--not wishful thinking.

Materialist data.  Empirical data is bigger than just physics.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mousetrap on July 06, 2018, 05:53:49 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Even if God does exist, at the very least he's irrelevant, since he doesn't do anything. He doesn't answer prayer, he doesn't punish the evildoers, he doesn't reward the faithful. He isn't making the world a better place for us to live. He does nothing at all, and can therefore be discounted.
OK, so this is the God you will worship?
I think you are confusing God with Batman.
Batman fights evil, makes Gotham city a better place to live in, rewards Arthur and Robin, and when the light shines in the night sky, he answers the citizens' prayers.
OK.
Your god sounds a lot like an action figure that should serve you.
Perhaps you got the rolls confused too.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Baruch on July 06, 2018, 06:29:31 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
OK, so this is the God you will worship?
I think you are confusing God with Batman.
Batman fights evil, makes Gotham city a better place to live in, rewards Arthur and Robin, and when the light shines in the night sky, he answers the citizens' prayers.
OK.
Your god sounds a lot like an action figure that should serve you.
Perhaps you got the rolls confused too.

Typical moderns raised on alien guys in spandex and giant robots ... are like that ;-)
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: SGOS on July 06, 2018, 07:07:14 AM
You said this...
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I think you are confusing God with Batman.
Batman fights evil, makes Gotham city a better place to live in, rewards Arthur and Robin, and when the light shines in the night sky, he answers the citizens' prayers.
OK.
Your god sounds a lot like an action figure that should serve you.
...in response to this:
Quote
Even if God does exist, at the very least he's irrelevant, since he doesn't do anything. He doesn't answer prayer, he doesn't punish the evildoers, he doesn't reward the faithful. He isn't making the world a better place for us to live. He does nothing at all, and can therefore be discounted.
These are examples of God/human interaction that are claimed by the righteous.  Unbeliever did not make these up to be used as straw men.  His point was that God doesn't do anything, least of all the things claimed by the God fans.  What you should take away from this is that a god who doesn't do what he is reported to do has an uncanny resemblance to a god that doesn't exist.  While this is not proof, it goes into the column for evidence of absence.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Baruch on July 06, 2018, 07:21:42 AM
True, but not the way you think.  Creator as potentiality, and creation as actuality.  Potentiality is very passive by definition.  This is a flip-side definition, because usually, as Aristotelians, the creator is active and the matter acted on is passive.  The actual Biblical view is that G-d is Fate aka the past, not the future.  The past can't be changed, as fate can't be changed.  But you have to look back, not forward.  Looking forward we have free will, but looking backward it is a done deal.  That analogy comes about because of the "timeless/eternal" aspect.  In a sense, the past is timeless.  It is the present where time is active.  The future of course is always speculative.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mousetrap on July 06, 2018, 07:54:26 AM
Baruch the scribe of Jeremiah,
Where is Gan Eden?
Shalom
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Baruch on July 06, 2018, 12:40:50 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Baruch the scribe of Jeremiah,
Where is Gan Eden?
Shalom

Wherever a Jew is (aka someone in relation to G-d) ... there is Gan Eden (garden of Eden).  Only I usually wear more than a fig leaf, except when I am in the shower.  So why are you chatting up all these serpents (aka dragons, not snakes).  Looking for buried gold, or a maiden in need of rescue?

"Where your heart is, there is your treasure also"
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Hydra009 on July 06, 2018, 01:20:18 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Batman fights evil, makes Gotham city a better place to live in, rewards Arthur and Robin, and when the light shines in the night sky, he answers the citizens' prayers.
That actually sounds way better than the petty, vengeful, and schizophrenic overlord you believe in.  Is there a way to trade up?
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Unbeliever on July 06, 2018, 01:29:52 PM
The God of the Bible, even if it did exist, is certainly not worthy of either praise or worship:

What the Bible's God is really like (http://nullgod.com/index.php?topic=164.0)

I'm really glad the thing doesn't exist, or we'd have to kill it.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Baruch on July 06, 2018, 07:56:07 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
The God of the Bible, even if it did exist, is certainly not worthy of either praise or worship:

What the Bible's God is really like (http://nullgod.com/index.php?topic=164.0)

I'm really glad the thing doesn't exist, or we'd have to kill it.

That is exactly the point for Greatest I Am.  So reject the Greek philosophy god also ... you Platonist ;-)
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Blackleaf on July 07, 2018, 11:31:28 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I woke yesterday and had the urge to seek a forum where atheists are calling upon God.
I searched on Google and this forum popped up.
I registered last night and this morning received confirmation that I can attend here.
something said I should look at the debates.
I found this one where an atheist decided to debate God.
I see he was waiting for a while, but why was I sent here?
Anyhow, I perceive God sent me here to speak to you.
What do you want?

Somehow it seems disrespectful to dig up a dead man's thread and start debating in it. Granted, you couldn't have known when you got here, but you have been informed so...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/xTiTndmCJuRMDwbkic/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mousetrap on July 08, 2018, 10:24:50 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Somehow it seems disrespectful to dig up a dead man's thread and start debating in it. Granted, you couldn't have known when you got here, but you have been informed so...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/xTiTndmCJuRMDwbkic/giphy.gif)
I actually realize that he was granted his wish.
He is debating with God personally.


Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Mr.Obvious on July 08, 2018, 10:59:46 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I actually realize that he was granted his wish.
He is debating with God personally.

Strike one.
Title: Re: Solomon Zorn Vs. God
Post by: Cavebear on July 09, 2018, 04:45:30 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Oh, and I am also at work.
(supporting 40 million unemployed.)
LOL

Personally?  I'm impressed.