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Title: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 13, 2017, 08:18:52 AM
The Unabomber was not insane.  And he didnt murder even 1/10,000th of what the real Obomber did. They tried to make him plea insanity to which he at 1st declined, but then eventually had to, otherwise--'lectric chair, burn baby burn.  No, he had a cause, so to speak, a rebel cause:  against high tech military/industrial materialism, which he(and others) figured was destroying the planet.  Well, he has this super hi IQ, 170 or so, he was a math genius and taught in prestigious colleges on both coasts, but he just decided to take it upon himself to save the planet and people and such.

Sooooo, he moves way up in the backwoods in a tiny shack, and figures he gonna blow himself up some bad bad technocrats and professors and capitalists and such who were key figures along the military industrial intellectual or business pipeline.  And he proceeded to do just that, for several years, with an extended hiatus in between so as not to be discovered.

He was what is known as an Anarcho Primitivist, feeling mankind should get back to their wild natural roots and live like hunter gatherers again.  Sort of like a Jeremiah Johnson version of Drumpf, w/o the cotton candy hair and billions--taken us WAAAY the hell back--when humanity was simple and great, and pretty near like apes!  If you asked if he wanted to bomb us back into the Stone Age, the answer would be, 'yes'. 

Oh, small thing.  He had written this Manifesto re his entire outlook on everything and it really a brilliant pc of work that everybody would do well to read.  And he called up a newspaper and said he'd stop the bombing if they published his Manifesto, which they eventually did, so he stopped the bombing.

Well, they finally caught him as per one of his brothers snitched on him and to this day he still sits in prison.  So, the moral of the story is:  he had alot in common with Obomber and Drumpf. 

The end.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 13, 2017, 08:28:58 AM
Need a sharper crayon.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Atheon on March 13, 2017, 10:10:03 AM
... smiling, nodding, backing away slowly, avoiding eye contact... "Oh, is that the time? Sorry, gotta go."
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 13, 2017, 10:11:47 AM
... ... ... Phatmatt, is that you?
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 13, 2017, 11:20:14 AM
"The Unabomber Manifesto" is a brilliant work, and may come to pass.  I highly recommend it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unabomber/manifesto.text.htm
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 13, 2017, 11:45:23 AM
Bald assertions aside, the man was crazy.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 13, 2017, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 13, 2017, 11:45:23 AM
Bald assertions aside, the man was crazy.
How so?
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: GrinningYMIR on March 13, 2017, 11:56:31 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9e/3d/f3/9e3df37ac5f334b3922e6560aaa59cc5.jpg)
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 13, 2017, 12:06:26 PM
Quote from: etienne on March 13, 2017, 11:50:50 AM
How so?
Your claims lack substantive support.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 13, 2017, 01:27:09 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 13, 2017, 12:06:26 PM
Your claims lack substantive support.
No they don't.  I have already provided substance and I can provide plenty more.  I am asking YOU what is your claim and what is the basis of it.  So far, you've provided nothing.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Shiranu on March 13, 2017, 01:55:18 PM
Edit: Too harsh.


When you have to start justifying terrorists and dictators, that should probably set off some alarms in your head that you just might be wrong.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 13, 2017, 02:00:13 PM
Quote from: etienne on March 13, 2017, 01:27:09 PM
No they don't.  I have already provided substance and I can provide plenty more.  I am asking YOU what is your claim and what is the basis of it.  So far, you've provided nothing.
You'll reject anything I put up out of hand, so why bother.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 13, 2017, 10:18:33 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 13, 2017, 02:00:13 PM
You'll reject anything I put up out of hand, so why bother.
Give it a shot.  I dont think you know anything about the Unabomber's intent, is my guess.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Baruch on March 14, 2017, 12:25:48 AM
Quote from: etienne on March 13, 2017, 10:18:33 PM
Give it a shot.  I dont think you know anything about the Unabomber's intent, is my guess.

But one nut in the woods doesn't amount to much.  His schtick will never be popular enough to matter.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 14, 2017, 01:10:22 AM
Quote from: Baruch on March 14, 2017, 12:25:48 AM
But one nut in the woods doesn't amount to much.  His schtick will never be popular enough to matter.
So, I guess you've not heard of Derrick Jensen?  Or that other guy in Oakland, CA?  Anarcho-Primitivism is a "thing" now, End Civ, and they are coming out of the "woodwork":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-primitivism#Books

Ted Kaczynski was a tactical army of one.  It's all a numbers game.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 02:26:20 AM
When someome refers to "Obomber", bringing President Obama into conspiracy theories, I know I don't have to read any further...
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 14, 2017, 02:52:17 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 02:26:20 AM
When someome refers to "Obomber", bringing President Obama into conspiracy theories, I know I don't have to read any further...
Nobody's holding a gun to your head...or a unabomb.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 02:55:00 AM
Quote from: etienne on March 14, 2017, 02:52:17 AM
Nobody's holding a gun to your head...or a unabomb.

So, are you suggesting Obama had something to do with the Unabomber?
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 14, 2017, 03:00:18 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 02:55:00 AM
So, are you suggesting Obama had something to do with the Unabomber?
Uh, no, Obomber was only just a teeny bopper when Ted was engaging in covert battle with The Man.  But Ted didn't murder anywhere in the same areas code what the big time Statist murderer Obomber  did.  And Obomber is now out water skiing in HI, making $60 mil on a book deal.  Ain't 'Murica great enough already?!  We don't need Prez Tramp!
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 03:04:22 AM
Quote from: etienne on March 14, 2017, 03:00:18 AM
Uh, no, Obomber was only just a teeny bopper when Ted was engaging in covert battle with The Man.  But Ted didn't murder anywhere in the same areas code what the big time Statist murderer Obomber  did.  And Obomber is now out water skiing in HI, making $60 mil on a book deal.  Ain't 'Murica great enough already?!  We don't need Prez Tramp!

Thank you.  Just wanted to get your crazed views confirmed about President Obama.  Your views are no longer of any possible interest except as bad examples of lunatics.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 14, 2017, 03:30:41 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 03:04:22 AM
Thank you.  Just wanted to get your crazed views confirmed about President Obama.  Your views are no longer of any possible interest except as bad examples of lunatics.
Oh.  I guess only "lunatics" can count.  Ted murdered 1....+ 1 = 2..+ 1...= 3.  Injured 23.

How many 100s/1000s did UnaObomber murder again?  I mean, it was his list, he signed off on the drone strikes and Syria F-16 strikes, and then there's Afghanistan, and Libya, and The Congo, and, wow, who can keep up?...mostly women and children, of course.

Outta sight, outta mind, right?  That's 'Murica.  At least Ted made his own bombs and took responsibility for his actions.  No, in a just world, Obomber(and ALL US prez's) would get the death sentence in a World Court, but all these fruitcake libtards just wanna keep sucking Obomber cock.

Sorry, facts are stubborn things.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 03:41:41 AM
Quote from: etienne on March 14, 2017, 03:30:41 AM
Oh.  I guess only "lunatics" can count.  Ted murdered 1....+ 1 = 2..+ 1...= 3.  Injured 23.

How many 100s/1000s did UnaObomber murder again?  I mean, it was his list, he signed off on the drone strikes and Syria F-16 strikes, and then there's Afghanistan, and Libya, and The Congo, and, wow, who can keep up?...mostly women and children, of course.

Outta sight, outta mind, right?  That's 'Murica.  At least Ted made his own bombs and took responsibility for his actions.  No, in a just world, Obomber(and ALL US prez's) would get the death sentence in a World Court, but all these fruitcake libtards just wanna keep sucking Obomber cock.

I understand your point.  "Killing a few is murder, killing a million is governance" or something like that from Stalin.  But war is not the same (and Stalin was referring to internal purges, not war).

But by those terms, FDR was a murderer because he ordered military action against Japan and Germany who declared war against the US first, and that's not really rational.

You might do better to avoid phrases like "Obomber cock" and "libtards".  Just a conversational suggestion.

Sorry, facts are stubborn things.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 14, 2017, 07:38:32 AM
Quote from: etienne on March 13, 2017, 10:18:33 PM
Give it a shot.  I dont think you know anything about the Unabomber's intent, is my guess.
Yeah, that's what it is.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 08:24:40 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 14, 2017, 07:38:32 AM
Yeah, that's what it is.

What, you never read the entirety of his missive?  I am shocked.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 14, 2017, 08:38:33 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 08:24:40 AM
What, you never read the entirety of his missive?  I am shocked.
Actually, we sliced-and-diced it in a Psych class at Purdue. Most of one semester on him and his ilk.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 08:54:38 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 14, 2017, 08:38:33 AM
Actually, we sliced-and-diced it in a Psych class at Purdue. Most of one semester on him and his ilk.

Always surprises.  I should slice and dice that.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 14, 2017, 11:25:20 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 08:54:38 AM
Always surprises.  I should slice and dice that.
I may still have my class notes ... somewhere.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 11:28:15 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 14, 2017, 11:25:20 AM
I may still have my class notes ... somewhere.

Oh well, Purdue.  That explains it (*coff, coff*)

Joking...
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 14, 2017, 11:37:46 AM
I provided a link up yonder there to Ted's Manifesto, which is brilliant as Guinness and way the F over most people's heads, and quite prophetic.  But I also gave the mini version in my OP.  Pretty basic stuff, actually.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 11:58:56 AM
Quote from: etienne on March 14, 2017, 11:37:46 AM
I provided a link up yonder there to Ted's Manifesto, which is brilliant as Guinness and way the F over most people's heads, and quite prophetic.  But I also gave the mini version in my OP.  Pretty basic stuff, actually.

I read it back in the day.  Utter nonsense rant.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 14, 2017, 12:09:39 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 11:58:56 AM
I read it back in the day.  Utter nonsense rant.
Over your head, I guess.  Well, when the oil runs out, we'll see what's up, who has the last laugh--in the rubble.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 12:15:17 PM
Quote from: etienne on March 14, 2017, 12:09:39 PM
Over your head, I guess.  Well, when the oil runs out, we'll see what's up, who has the last laugh--in the rubble.

I will.  I'm solar.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 14, 2017, 12:24:18 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 12:15:17 PM
I will.  I'm solar.
LOL, solar.  Hope you like to walk alot.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 14, 2017, 01:21:18 PM
Quote from: etienne on March 14, 2017, 12:09:39 PM
Over your head, I guess.  Well, when the oil runs out, we'll see what's up, who has the last laugh--in the rubble.
Why do you think your opinion matters?
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 14, 2017, 02:27:28 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 14, 2017, 01:21:18 PM
Why do you think your opinion matters?
Your reading it.  Many others read it.  Proof.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 14, 2017, 02:47:29 PM
Quote from: etienne on March 14, 2017, 02:27:28 PM
Your reading it.  Many others read it.  Proof.
Low bar.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 14, 2017, 02:50:29 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 14, 2017, 02:47:29 PM
Low bar.
Dont be so hard on yourself.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 14, 2017, 03:18:05 PM
Quote from: etienne on March 14, 2017, 02:50:29 PM
Dont be so hard on yourself.
Child, you're not very good at this.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 14, 2017, 03:25:14 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 14, 2017, 03:18:05 PM
Child, you're not very good at this.
buh bye sami
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 14, 2017, 03:43:00 PM
Quote from: etienne on March 14, 2017, 03:25:14 PM
buh bye sami
You want to require us to believe your treatise. You'll be hurt if we don't. Therein lies your vulnerability.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Baruch on March 14, 2017, 08:06:41 PM
Quote from: etienne on March 14, 2017, 03:25:14 PM
buh bye sami

Oh no, I am triggered!  Reminds me of the McLaughlin Group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4QNAfzOJUo
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: SGOS on March 14, 2017, 08:18:48 PM
I followed the Unabomber's antics when I was living in Montana, so when they caught him, I was quite surprised to find he lived down the road from me.  But Montana is a big state, so in this case, "down the road" comes out to 350 miles.  In Rhode Island, 350 miles doesn't qualify as down the road, but Montana is sparsely populated and you only meet 4 other cars on the way to the Unabomber cabin, so "down the road" in Montana and Rhode Island kind of evens out.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: SGOS on March 14, 2017, 08:23:50 PM
Quote from: Baruch on March 14, 2017, 08:06:41 PM
Oh no, I am triggered!  Reminds me of the McLaughlin Group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4QNAfzOJUo
Well, that was "indefatigable."
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Shiranu on March 14, 2017, 08:25:12 PM
Quote from: etienne on March 14, 2017, 03:25:14 PM
buh bye sami

I give him a week before he has everyone but Bauruch + himself ignored for not buying his bullshit.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 14, 2017, 08:29:42 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on March 14, 2017, 08:25:12 PM

I give him a week before he has everyone but Bauruch + himself ignored for not buying his bullshit.
At least he's stopped pretending to be French.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Baruch on March 14, 2017, 08:38:21 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on March 14, 2017, 08:25:12 PM

I give him a week before he has everyone but Bauruch + himself ignored for not buying his bullshit.

Adam Smith and the gang of Glasgow human traffickers and drug pushers will be proud of you.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Baruch on March 14, 2017, 08:39:24 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 14, 2017, 08:29:42 PM
At least he's stopped pretending to be French.

I am only distantly French.  Etienne claims to be partial to Brazil.  Maybe like the film.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 14, 2017, 08:43:55 PM
Quote from: SGOS on March 14, 2017, 08:18:48 PM
I followed the Unabomber's antics when I was living in Montana, so when they caught him, I was quite surprised to find he lived down the road from me.  But Montana is a big state, so in this case, "down the road" comes out to 350 miles.  In Rhode Island, 350 miles doesn't qualify as down the road, but Montana is sparsely populated and you only meet 4 other cars on the way to the Unabomber cabin, so "down the road" in Montana and Rhode Island kind of evens out.
350 miles in Rhode Island means you are out of Rhode Island and about 1/3 the way thru Massachusetts.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 14, 2017, 08:47:03 PM
Quote from: Baruch on March 14, 2017, 08:38:21 PM
Adam Smith and the gang of Glasgow human traffickers and drug pushers will be proud of you.
Did you see that public/private GEO, "illegals" slave labor thing in the good ol USA?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/03/05/thousands-of-ice-detainees-claim-they-were-forced-into-labor-a-violation-of-anti-slavery-laws/?utm_term=.47288b348b0e
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Baruch on March 14, 2017, 08:48:48 PM
Not new .. 20,000 girls are human traffic (prostitutes) in the US.  The upper classes can't live without their plantations ... N or S.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 14, 2017, 08:58:09 PM
Quote from: Baruch on March 14, 2017, 08:39:24 PM
I am only distantly French.  Etienne claims to be partial to Brazil.  Maybe like the film.
Claims, yeah.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 14, 2017, 09:00:03 PM
Quote from: Baruch on March 14, 2017, 08:48:48 PM
Not new .. 20,000 girls are human traffic (prostitutes) in the US.  The upper classes can't live without their plantations ... N or S.
Yup, the system always needs its slave labor.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Cavebear on March 16, 2017, 12:28:12 PM
Quote from: SGOS on March 14, 2017, 08:18:48 PM
I followed the Unabomber's antics when I was living in Montana, so when they caught him, I was quite surprised to find he lived down the road from me.  But Montana is a big state, so in this case, "down the road" comes out to 350 miles.  In Rhode Island, 350 miles doesn't qualify as down the road, but Montana is sparsely populated and you only meet 4 other cars on the way to the Unabomber cabin, so "down the road" in Montana and Rhode Island kind of evens out.

Well, what's 350 miles between neighbors?
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: PickelledEggs on March 16, 2017, 12:37:46 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 13, 2017, 08:28:58 AM
Need a sharper crayon.
I'm afraid he might stab himself.... or someone else with it.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Cavebear on March 16, 2017, 12:49:11 PM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on March 16, 2017, 12:37:46 PM
I'm afraid he might stab himself.... or someone else with it.

A crazy person can do a lot of harm with a crayon and a battery..
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: pr126 on March 16, 2017, 01:21:53 PM
The unabomber was Obama's best friend.
He was also the ghost writer for the two books attributed to Obama.

Oh and another mentor and soul mate, Frank Marshall Davis. Both communist.

http://www.salon.com/2009/10/07/ayers_2/
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 16, 2017, 02:15:29 PM
Not surprised by that. :eyeroll:
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Baruch on March 16, 2017, 07:12:45 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 16, 2017, 12:49:11 PM
A crazy person can do a lot of harm with a crayon and a battery..

Assault and battery ... what color of crayon is assault?
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Baruch on March 16, 2017, 07:15:40 PM
Quote from: pr126 on March 16, 2017, 01:21:53 PM
The unabomber was Obama's best friend.
He was also the ghost writer for the two books attributed to Obama.

Oh and another mentor and soul mate, Frank Marshall Davis. Both communist.

http://www.salon.com/2009/10/07/ayers_2/

It seems apparent that like many football players, Obama, who couldn't play football, never the less cheated his way thru college.
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 16, 2017, 07:17:11 PM
Quote from: pr126 on March 16, 2017, 01:21:53 PM
The unabomber was Obama's best friend.
He was also the ghost writer for the two books attributed to Obama.

Oh and another mentor and soul mate, Frank Marshall Davis. Both communist.

http://www.salon.com/2009/10/07/ayers_2/
Yeah, the Unabomber also wire tapped Tramp Tower from his prison cell, at the request of Obomber, of course.  Ted is actually a CIA agent, code name, "Bearded Wan".  There's something EVIL going down!
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: etienne on March 16, 2017, 07:21:42 PM
Quote from: Baruch on March 16, 2017, 07:12:45 PM
Assault and battery ... what color of crayon is assault?
Dont tell me, uh, white?

(http://www.brainlesstales.com/images/2012/Mar/a-salt-deadly-weapon.jpg)
Title: Re: No, The Unabomber Was Not Crazy
Post by: Cavebear on March 18, 2017, 03:57:17 AM
Quote from: pr126 on March 16, 2017, 01:21:53 PM
The unabomber was Obama's best friend.
He was also the ghost writer for the two books attributed to Obama.

Oh and another mentor and soul mate, Frank Marshall Davis. Both communist.

http://www.salon.com/2009/10/07/ayers_2/

You sure picked the right avatar...  The acknowledged angry nut puppet.