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Title: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: PopeyesPappy on March 02, 2017, 04:25:11 PM
The US Department of Housing and Urban Development awarded $48 million to the state of Louisiana to relocate the residents of Isle de Jean Charles off the island to higher ground making the residents of Isle de Jean Charles the country's first-ever climate refugees. Most of the the island's residents are members of the Biloxi-Chitimacha-Choctaw Native American tribes or United Houma Nation, which can trace their settlement on the island back to the Indian Removal Act of 1830.

We put them there we might as well move them again. Somehow I doubt people living in threatened areas are going to get such generous help in the many decades of what is coming... 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/02/us/heart-of-the-matter-climate-change-louisiana/index.html
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: Baruch on March 02, 2017, 06:48:46 PM
Louisiana has been sinking, ever since the US Army Corp of Engineers increased the diversion of the portion of the Mississippi that went thru the Atchafalaya.  The silt necessary to keep the Delta and the Big Easy afloat, hasn't been going downstream like it should.  I think all refugees should be moved to Washington DC. since they are the ultimate source of the policies that make refugees necessary.
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: Hydra009 on March 03, 2017, 02:54:23 PM
The first of many.

A lot of talk is made of the "unacceptable" cost of mitigating climate change, but the cost of doing nothing is far higher.
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: doorknob on March 03, 2017, 03:09:45 PM
oh but climate change isn't real!
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: Cavebear on March 05, 2017, 01:31:56 AM
Quote from: doorknob on March 03, 2017, 03:09:45 PM
oh but climate change isn't real!

Hoping that was a slight joke.  Otherwise, you are knowledgeable.
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: chill98 on March 05, 2017, 09:33:08 PM
Quote from: Baruch on March 02, 2017, 06:48:46 PM
Louisiana has been sinking, ever since the US Army Corp of Engineers increased the diversion of the portion of the Mississippi that went thru the Atchafalaya.  The silt necessary to keep the Delta and the Big Easy afloat, hasn't been going downstream like it should.  I think all refugees should be moved to Washington DC. since they are the ultimate source of the policies that make refugees necessary.
Nice to see someone mention the Atchafalaya.   But don't dismiss the many locks and dams further north that began to restrict silt all along the might Miss and its tributaries. 
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: Baruch on March 05, 2017, 10:50:49 PM
They were only trying to control the river, after the great flood of 1927 ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mississippi_Flood_of_1927
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: SGOS on March 06, 2017, 11:44:24 AM
Quote from: Baruch on March 05, 2017, 10:50:49 PM
They were only trying to control the river, after the great flood of 1927 ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mississippi_Flood_of_1927
An interesting link about a thing I didn't know about.
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: Hydra009 on March 06, 2017, 12:21:21 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on March 05, 2017, 01:31:56 AM
Hoping that was a slight joke.  Otherwise, you are knowledgeable.
I'm 99.999% certain it was a joke.
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 06, 2017, 12:21:57 PM
How the fuck does silt keep anything "afloat"?
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: Baruch on March 06, 2017, 12:25:46 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 06, 2017, 12:21:57 PM
How the fuck does silt keep anything "afloat"?

The silt is constantly being washed into the Gulf.  If it is replaced, then the Big Easy stays only slightly below sea level.  Silt is compressible, so that is why graves in Big Easy are above ground.
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 06, 2017, 03:30:07 PM
Quote from: Baruch on March 06, 2017, 12:25:46 PM
The silt is constantly being washed into the Gulf.  If it is replaced, then the Big Easy stays only slightly below sea level.  Silt is compressible, so that is why graves in Big Easy are above ground.
Mad no sense.
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: PopeyesPappy on March 06, 2017, 04:48:41 PM
What I'm surprised no one has keyed in on is $48 million to relocate 30 families. That's $1.6 million per family. I could have built them all nice new homes and moved them for 1/4 of that and still made money...
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 06, 2017, 05:21:03 PM
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on March 06, 2017, 04:48:41 PM
What I'm surprised no one has keyed in on is $48 million to relocate 30 families. That's $1.6 million per family. I could have built them all nice new homes and moved them for 1/4 of that and still made money...
Depends on  how much property they have.
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: Draconic Aiur on March 06, 2017, 06:13:58 PM
what about the key stone pipline through a reservation?
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 06, 2017, 07:13:36 PM
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on March 06, 2017, 06:13:58 PM
what about the key stone pipline through a reservation?
If them Indians don't like it they can just go home!
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: PopeyesPappy on March 06, 2017, 07:14:23 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 06, 2017, 05:21:03 PM
Depends on  how much property they have.

There's only about 440 acres of the island left. That's down from 22,000 acres in 1955. So about 15 acres per family. So $10K per acre for $150K, another $200K for a house and $25K to move them is $375K a family leaving me $25K each in profit. I could have done it for $12 million and still cleared a 6.25% profit of $750K.
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: Baruch on March 06, 2017, 07:20:39 PM
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on March 06, 2017, 07:14:23 PM
There's only about 440 acres of the island left. That's down from 22,000 acres in 1955. So about 15 acres per family. So $10K per acre for $150K, another $200K for a house and $25K to move them is $375K a family leaving me $25K each in profit. I could have done it for $12 million and still cleared a 6.25% profit of $750K.

More Democrat vote buying.  They should each give them a Trillion Dollar platinum coin and call it a day!
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: PopeyesPappy on March 06, 2017, 07:48:25 PM
The contract was awarded to the state of Louisiana. They are the ones that stand to make millions in profit.
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: Baruch on March 07, 2017, 06:15:08 AM
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on March 06, 2017, 07:48:25 PM
The contract was awarded to the state of Louisiana. They are the ones that stand to make millions in profit.

Republican payoff then.
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: fencerider on March 11, 2017, 01:28:01 PM
Typical. As long as republicans have money in they bank to pay somebody off they have no reason to worry about climate change.
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: Baruch on March 11, 2017, 04:19:18 PM
Quote from: fencerider on March 11, 2017, 01:28:01 PM
Typical. As long as republicans have money in they bank to pay somebody off they have no reason to worry about climate change.

That is the miracle of the Federal Reserve.  They have handed out 18 billion dollars in fake credits, to all the right people, over the last 9 years.  And those people have used that money to buy politicians on both sides of the Atlantic.  Who you going to call, when you are involuntarily financing your enemies?
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 02:47:13 AM
Given that they are refugees because their island was sinking into the water, I'm not sure New Orleans is the best place to relocate them.  LOL!  It's almost a cruel joke.
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: etienne on March 14, 2017, 04:37:41 AM
We have a YOOGE blizzard coming today.  I amy be stranded.  Can I get HUD to cut me a check?  Just a mil will do, thanks in advance!  ;)
Title: Re: HUD awards $48 M to relocate US's first official climate refugees
Post by: Cavebear on March 14, 2017, 04:48:30 AM
Quote from: etienne on March 14, 2017, 04:37:41 AM
We have a YOOGE blizzard coming today.  I amy be stranded.  Can I get HUD to cut me a check?  Just a mil will do, thanks in advance!  ;)

You know, it is one thing when I joke with other clever atheists who get the jokes and are otherwise intelligent.  You, apparently, are not one of those.