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Title: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: trdsf on March 02, 2017, 11:27:21 AM
From a real call I had this morning, caller reading back something to me to make sure he had it spelled correctly: "Okay, that's D as in David, L as in... uh... something that starts with L."

That's right up there with the time I gave someone the phonetic spelling "That's K as in Knife... uh.  May I try that again?"
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: Sal1981 on March 02, 2017, 01:15:58 PM
Opportunity missed. L as in Leroy.
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: Hydra009 on March 02, 2017, 01:40:28 PM
M as in Mancy :P
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 02, 2017, 02:12:19 PM
Fauxnetically.

How'd I do?
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: PopeyesPappy on March 02, 2017, 03:58:02 PM
A   Alpha
B   Bravo
C   Charlie
D   Delta
E   Echo
F   Foxtrot
G   Golf
H   Hotel
I   India
J   Juliet
K   Kilo
L   Lima
M   Mike
N   November
O   Oscar
P   Papa
Q   Quebec
R   Romeo
S   Sierra
T   Tango
U   Uniform
V   Victor
W   Whiskey
X   X-ray
Y   Yankee
Z   Zulu

Is what they taught me almost 40 years ago.
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 02, 2017, 04:40:07 PM
A   Alpha
B   Bravo
C   Charlie
D   Delta
E   Echo
F   Foxtrot
G   Golf
H   Hotel
I   India
J   Juliet
K   Kilo
L   Lima
M   Mike
N   November
O   Oscar
P   Papa
Q   Quebec
R   Romeo
S   Sierra
T   Tango
U   Uniform
V   Victor
W   Whiskey
X   X-ray
Y   Yankee
Z   Zulu

Is what they taught me almost 40 years ago.
Boot camp, 1969. Eighty recruits chanting that at least once every evening before lights out.
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: trdsf on March 02, 2017, 11:29:08 PM
Speaking of spelling on the phone...

https://youtu.be/hUJLczoyVlI?t=620

If it doesn't start there directly, it starts at 10:20.
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: trdsf on March 10, 2017, 12:44:59 PM
Okay, "L as in something that starts with L" has been dethroned.

One of our callers just did "H as in whore".
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: Cavebear on March 19, 2017, 12:36:12 AM
Okay, "L as in something that starts with L" has been dethroned.

One of our callers just did "H as in whore".

At one point in my career, I had to spell codes to people on the phone.  I kept the standard list taped to the wall.  But others didn't and some times gave interesting versions back.  I always crack up recalling getting "N for Pneumonia".

But reading "whore"" also reminds of 2 funny mistakes by friends and one of my own.  One friend referred to "whore-frost on the soil and I only caught the error when he attempted to explain the origin.  Another thought the plant cowslips was "cow's lips" not "cow slips".  I myself, as an early reader, thought Ulysses's wife was pronounced "Penelope" like "envelope". Seemed sensible...   LOL!
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: Atheon on March 19, 2017, 02:52:02 PM
A as in Au Pair
C as in Cnidarian
G as in Gjetost
H as in Hour
J as in Jarlsberg
K as in Knight
P an in Pneumonia
S as in Szczecin
W as in Wrong
X as in Xi'an
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 19, 2017, 03:36:59 PM
Parenthetically is one way to not spell phonetically.
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: Hydra009 on March 20, 2017, 12:21:57 AM
J as in Jarlsberg
I actually do pronounce it Jarles-berg.  Is the J silent?  If so, I've been doing it wrong all my life.

Route = root or rout?
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: Atheon on March 20, 2017, 12:35:54 AM
I actually do pronounce it Jarles-berg.  Is the J silent?  If so, I've been doing it wrong all my life.
The J is pronounced like a Y instead of like a J.
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on March 20, 2017, 08:43:05 AM
The J is pronounced like a Y instead of like a J.
Jes, it is.
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: SGOS on March 20, 2017, 08:51:28 AM
A   Alpha
B   Bravo
C   Charlie
D   Delta
E   Echo
F   Foxtrot
G   Golf
H   Hotel
I   India
J   Juliet
K   Kilo
L   Lima
M   Mike
N   November
O   Oscar
P   Papa
Q   Quebec
R   Romeo
S   Sierra
T   Tango
U   Uniform
V   Victor
W   Whiskey
X   X-ray
Y   Yankee
Z   Zulu

Is what they taught me almost 40 years ago.

When I learned it was:
Able
Baker
Charlie
Dog
Easy
Fox
etc, etc, etc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Army/Navy_Phonetic_Alphabet

That was before 1956.  My Boy Scout Leader was a former radioman in the Army, and made us learn the Morse Code and march around the school playground.  It was actually kind of fun.  I might have been a good soldier.  Well, a good marcher, anyway.
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: SGOS on March 20, 2017, 08:53:19 AM
Parenthetically is one way to not spell phonetically.

()tically
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: Hydra009 on March 20, 2017, 12:23:42 PM
The J is pronounced like a Y instead of like a J.
Surelj you yest.
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: Mr.Obvious on March 20, 2017, 12:34:15 PM
P-w-n E-t-h-i-c-a-l-l-y
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: Hydra009 on March 20, 2017, 12:35:18 PM
Next you guys will tell me pecan isn't pronounced "pee-kahn", aunt doesn't rhyme with want, creek doesn't rhyme with week, and caramel doesn't have 3 syllables.
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: trdsf on March 20, 2017, 01:19:26 PM
Next you guys will tell me pecan isn't pronounced "pee-kahn", aunt doesn't rhyme with want, creek doesn't rhyme with week, and caramel doesn't have 3 syllables.
The second and third, yeah, they don't.  I've always pronounced them 'ant' and 'crick'.

But is is car-a-mel, or care-a-mel?
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: Hydra009 on March 20, 2017, 04:39:35 PM
care-a-mel
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: trdsf on March 21, 2017, 06:41:57 PM
care-a-mel
Huh.

I've always done car-(uh)-mel -- barely more than two syllables but not quite three.
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: Unbeliever on March 21, 2017, 06:49:40 PM
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Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: Cavebear on March 22, 2017, 04:27:32 AM
Z as in ceasarian"?  LOL!
Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: admissioninfo on April 21, 2017, 03:55:34 AM
Foundation for Spelling Success


To develop a foundation for spelling success and strengthen spelling skills the student needs to:


    Develop Phonemic Awareness:  Phonemic awareness (PA) is critical to spelling development.   The child needs to be able to recognize and distinguish the sounds within spoken words in order to then translate these sounds back to print. If the child has a phonemic weakness, you need to help that child strengthen their phonemic awareness with PA training. The great news is that research proves PA training has “strong and significant effects on reading and spelling development” (National Reading Panel) See Phonemic Awareness Explained.
    Understand phonemic nature of spelling: The student needs to understand written English is based on a phonemic code. In other words printed black squiggles represent sounds in the word.
    Learn the phonemic code:  The student needs to learn the complete phonemic code. The English phonemic code is complex and the student needs to learn the complete code in order to handle these complexities. The student needs to learn the code systematically beginning with the basic code and then adding the complexities with vowel combinations, r-controlled combinations and other intricacies. Although there is code overlap (more than one way to write a sound), irregular and unexpected spellings, English is based on this phonemic code.
    Approach the process of spelling phonemically: The student needs to base their spelling on converting the sounds in the spoken word into print. They need to write the phonemic code for the sounds in the word. Spelling needs to be approached as recoding sound to print. Once again phonemic awareness is a critical skill. The child must have the phonemic awareness to recognize and distinguish the sounds within words. If your child has a phonemic weakness, you need to help the child strengthen their phonemic awareness.
    Acquire knowledge of spelling patterns and learn helpful guidelines: The student needs to learn and practice the common spelling patterns that are used in English. There are also guidelines that can help us learn correct spelling.  While there are exceptions and irregularities most words follow common patterns. There are also a number of helpful guidelines to aid us in accurate spelling. Children are better able to achieve spelling success when they learn and practice these common patterns and helpful guidelines. 
    Learn/memorize specific and  ‘tricky’ spellings: For accurate spelling the student does need to learn the correct spelling for common words and begin memorizing the specific spelling pattern used for particular words. Accurate spelling can be tricky and does require remembering which spelling pattern is used within certain words.

                                               
 
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Title: Re: How Not To Spell Phonetically
Post by: Cavebear on April 21, 2017, 04:00:26 AM
Foundation for Spelling Success


To develop a foundation for spelling success and strengthen spelling skills the student needs to:


    Develop Phonemic Awareness:  Phonemic awareness (PA) is critical to spelling development.   The child needs to be able to recognize and distinguish the sounds within spoken words in order to then translate these sounds back to print. If the child has a phonemic weakness, you need to help that child strengthen their phonemic awareness with PA training. The great news is that research proves PA training has “strong and significant effects on reading and spelling development” (National Reading Panel) See Phonemic Awareness Explained.
    Understand phonemic nature of spelling: The student needs to understand written English is based on a phonemic code. In other words printed black squiggles represent sounds in the word.
    Learn the phonemic code:  The student needs to learn the complete phonemic code. The English phonemic code is complex and the student needs to learn the complete code in order to handle these complexities. The student needs to learn the code systematically beginning with the basic code and then adding the complexities with vowel combinations, r-controlled combinations and other intricacies. Although there is code overlap (more than one way to write a sound), irregular and unexpected spellings, English is based on this phonemic code.
    Approach the process of spelling phonemically: The student needs to base their spelling on converting the sounds in the spoken word into print. They need to write the phonemic code for the sounds in the word. Spelling needs to be approached as recoding sound to print. Once again phonemic awareness is a critical skill. The child must have the phonemic awareness to recognize and distinguish the sounds within words. If your child has a phonemic weakness, you need to help the child strengthen their phonemic awareness.
    Acquire knowledge of spelling patterns and learn helpful guidelines: The student needs to learn and practice the common spelling patterns that are used in English. There are also guidelines that can help us learn correct spelling.  While there are exceptions and irregularities most words follow common patterns. There are also a number of helpful guidelines to aid us in accurate spelling. Children are better able to achieve spelling success when they learn and practice these common patterns and helpful guidelines. 
    Learn/memorize specific and  ‘tricky’ spellings: For accurate spelling the student does need to learn the correct spelling for common words and begin memorizing the specific spelling pattern used for particular words. Accurate spelling can be tricky and does require remembering which spelling pattern is used within certain words.


A superb disproof of the theory of phonetics!