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QuoteJournalist Evan Osnos talks about the Silicon Valley survivalists who are stockpiling food and weapons and investing in luxury underground bunkers. "They feel a sense of fragility in our politics," he says. Osnos has also been writing about Trump.
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QuoteWidespread fears about the future â€" including concerns about politics, the economy, the environment and all-out nuclear war â€" have led some people to prepare for ways to defend themselves. The "survivalists" include some Silicon Valley executives, who worry about the tech future they have helped to create.
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Just in time - I guess they'll live out the bad times that are coming, in the luxury to which they're accustomed - too bad, I guess, about the rest of us poor suckers...
That is because the new Civil War will start in California, not South Carolina. Hopefully war with the snowflakes can be avoided. I doubt that anyone's Swiss bank account is in danger.
Once the world's civilized order breaks down there won't be any more Swiss banks - just holes in the ground. I don't care how nice those holes are, they won't last long.
Who will Chump go to war with first, China or Mexico?
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 26, 2017, 06:11:50 PM
Once the world's civilized order breaks down there won't be any more Swiss banks - just holes in the ground. I don't care how nice those holes are, they won't last long.
Who will Chump go to war with first, China or Mexico?
Mexico ... if at all. I think some people want the US to go to war with someone, anyone ... since we have been at war with the Middle East since 1991, and it has worked out so well so far ;-(
Well, I suspect that the wars we're in at the moment don't provide enough profit for the weapon makers - all we've been using lately are relatively small weapons. A bigger war (or 2) will enable them to make and sell much bigger, more expensive weapons. Hence, war against whichever country (or group) Chump can provoke into doing something that will give him a sufficient excuse to bomb the shit out of whomever it's decided our enemy du jour is going to be.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 28, 2017, 06:02:16 PM
Well, I suspect that the wars we're in at the moment don't provide enough profit for the weapon makers - all we've been using lately are relatively small weapons. A bigger war (or 2) will enable them to make and sell much bigger, more expensive weapons. Hence, war against whichever country (or group) Chump can provoke into doing something that will give him a sufficient excuse to bomb the shit out of whomever it's decided our enemy du jour is going to be.
Why do you think Trump will start it? California is now saying in 2019 (will anyone be alive by then?) they will have a special ballot issue to secede. Also in the near term, they are threatening to stop Federal tax payment. There is a counter movement, to remove Governor Moon Beam from office immediately. So not Mexico .. it will be California, that is ground zero ... the Democrats have taken over California, like they did South Carolina in 1861.
Quote from: Baruch on January 28, 2017, 08:28:50 PM
Why do you think Trump will start it?
In the name of his God - the almighty dollar.
QuoteCalifornia is now saying in 2019 (will anyone be alive by then?) they will have a special ballot issue to secede. Also in the near term, they are threatening to stop Federal tax payment. There is a counter movement, to remove Governor Moon Beam from office immediately. So not Mexico .. it will be California, that is ground zero ... the Democrats have taken over California, like they did South Carolina in 1861.
Oh, hell, that's just silly. I think you're trying to pull my leg. I recall talk some years ago about N. Carolina (I think it was) wanting to secede, and that didn't happen either.
We can hope that the Californians will be too blue balled and strung out to resist ;-)
Resistance will be futile...
Lack of humor is futile ... the real Borge ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtDX1Vl-Jxk
Quote from: Baruch on January 29, 2017, 07:31:54 PM
Lack of humor is futile ... the real Borge ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtDX1Vl-Jxk
Wow! That brought back memories. It was a wonderful treat whenever that guy would show up on someone's TV show. And I actually remember that particular performance. Well, I remember the part about "stabbing herself between the two big T....rees. Comedians seemed funnier back then, and maybe they were. I still laughed at Borge's antics.
Well, sure, if you have tons of money, why NOT spend some on survivalist plans. A $50,000 shelter isn't costly if you have $500,000. A long odds plan is only bad when you can't afford it.
Quote from: Cavebear on January 31, 2017, 04:27:10 AM
Well, sure, if you have tons of money, why NOT spend some on survivalist plans. A $50,000 shelter isn't costly if you have $500,000. A long odds plan is only bad when you can't afford it.
in the long run, we are all dead. All snowflakes melt when the sun finally comes out. One can be eaten up by anxiety ... or deal with it. Of course young adults have little experience dealing with political scandal and assassination and chaos in the streets. Been there 1963 - 1980.
Quote from: Baruch on January 31, 2017, 06:52:06 AM
in the long run, we are all dead. All snowflakes melt when the sun finally comes out. One can be eaten up by anxiety ... or deal with it. Of course young adults have little experience dealing with political scandal and assassination and chaos in the streets. Been there 1963 - 1980.
What makes you think investing $3 million in a doomsday bunker doesn't help these people deal with their anxiety?
Quote from: Baruch on January 31, 2017, 06:52:06 AM
in the long run, we are all dead. All snowflakes melt when the sun finally comes out. One can be eaten up by anxiety ... or deal with it. Of course young adults have little experience dealing with political scandal and assassination and chaos in the streets. Been there 1963 - 1980.
Oh of COURSE we all die. Is that supposed to be profound? There are rhythms to life.
But the question was about rich people using their money for purposes. They don't CARE if some slight chance of surviving a bad day costs $50,000. Its chump change to them.
You are making the mistake of evaluating what rich people spend money on vs what YOU can spend money on. For an insanely rich person, a .5% chance of a shelter helping them survive is minor expense.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 31, 2017, 07:56:29 AM
What makes you think investing $3 million in a doomsday bunker doesn't help these people deal with their anxiety?
A three martini lunch will do just as good ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on January 31, 2017, 12:58:19 PM
A three martini lunch will do just as good ;-)
Go ahead an enjoy your 3 martini lunch while I am negotiating shelter and food with the neighbor lady... ;)
Thats a bad joke, though probaly real if the END occurs. I'd rather watch the blinding white light and die fast.
Quote from: Cavebear on January 31, 2017, 01:14:09 PM
Go ahead an enjoy your 3 martini lunch while I am negotiating shelter and food with the neighbor lady... ;)
Thats a bad joke, though probaly real if the END occurs. I'd rather watch the blinding white light and die fast.
I am too old to be a survivalist, so I have to agree with you. That and I prefer Southern Comfort.
Quote from: Baruch on January 31, 2017, 01:16:10 PM
I am too old to be a survivalist, so I have to agree with you. That an I prefer Southern Comfort.
My evening cocktail is sometimes 1 oz Southern Comfort, 1 oz Peach liquor, and fill the sling glass with gingerale over ice. See? We have sort of common ground. Have you tried Twisted Zinfandel with pork cubes in tomato sauce on angel hair spaghetti?
The meek shall inherit the Earth.
Quote from: SGOS on January 31, 2017, 01:41:23 PM
The meek shall inherit the Earth.
Unless you're talking about the cockroaches then probably not.
Quote from: SGOS on January 31, 2017, 01:41:23 PM
The meek shall inherit the Earth.
But not a good cocktail... ;)
The meek will inherit nothing. There are always some "less meek". Sadly.
That post was just a brain fart that I impulsively posted. I don't know who the meek are, and I don't even know what the quote means.
I expect it's more likely that the geeks shall inherit the Earth, if anyone shall.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 31, 2017, 04:14:31 PM
I expect it's more likely that the geeks shall inherit the Earth, if anyone shall.
The control center at Westworld (original movie) would disprove that.
But I think a movie disproves nothing at all, except that its makers had something to say.
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 01, 2017, 05:28:56 PM
But I think a movie disproves nothing at all, except that its makers had something to say.
If someone says something, and you don't listen, did you learn anything?
Maybe, maybe not, but nothing has been proven either way.
Survival is statistical .. it is vain to think one can move the odds in one's favor, for stuff like this. Not that I will be out hunting my fellow Americans for food. People aren't kosher.
Believe me, if people start looking to you like they'd be good to eat, and you're starving, you'll forget all about kosher.
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 01, 2017, 07:44:26 PM
Believe me, if people start looking to you like they'd be good to eat, and you're starving, you'll forget all about kosher.
Best eats at Alferd Packer Grill at University of Colorado Boulder Campus. Alferd Packer is the only person convicted of cannibalism in US history.
http://www.colorado.edu/umc/dining/alferd-packer
I have zero interest in any of these so called survivalist societies. If it becomes true that the earth is about to become one big nuclear wasteland then I'll be just fine getting vaporized.
Yeah, I read those 'out of the ashes' books back in the 70s too and once bought into the fantasy about surviving it all, but realized that even if it happens (and it probably will someday) there will be little if anything left to make it worth the effort. Who wants to live in a world dominated by self entitled twits anyway? Oh wait..that's our current state of affairs. All out nuclear war certainly isn't going to improve it.
Quote from: Baruch on February 01, 2017, 07:50:53 PM
Best eats at Alferd Packer Grill at University of Colorado Boulder Campus. Alferd Packer is the only person convicted of cannibalism in US history.
http://www.colorado.edu/umc/dining/alferd-packer
I've always loved the stuff that goes on around college campuses.
Hopefully the University of Colorado students have never taken this literally ;-)
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 01, 2017, 07:44:26 PM
Believe me, if people start looking to you like they'd be good to eat, and you're starving, you'll forget all about kosher.
Go for the thighs. They look like BBQ... And butts are very vague. The Donner Party discovered that, as did some sailors at times.
Quote from: Cavebear on February 05, 2017, 01:21:45 PM
Go for the thighs. They look like BBQ... And butts are very vague. The Donner Party discovered that, as did some sailors at times.
Yes, the law of the sea ... be sure someone else gets the short straw ;-( Only the living can argue about ethics.