The evil deeds of Trump and the Republicans are legion, and coming on stronger by the day. Here are some examples of the evil that is taking place in this once-great nation:
Senate Takes Major Step Toward Repealing Health Care Law
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/us/politics/health-care-congress-vote-a-rama.html
Trump Administration Restricts News from Federal Scientists at USDA, EPA
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-administration-restricts-news-from-federal-scientists-at-usda-epa/?WT.mc_id=SA_FB_POLE_NEWS
Trump and his minions are doing everything they can to dismantle the advances that Obama brought us. But one thing they can never take from him is the fact that Obama succeeded in doing away with Osama bin Laden.
Medicine costs money. Any money you give to an insurance company (ambulance chaser) up front, is money you don't have for medical care. People are ... idiots (not you personally). Life insurance works, sort of. Health insurance is a mathematical rip off by crooks. Sorry if you get sick, but show up at the emergency room or doctors office with a suitcase of money, or go die somewhere.
Of course this cost is all shifted, and others shafted ... if the US rips off the rest of the world thru dollar manipulation ... or if we simply print unlimited money (electronically please, don't kill all the trees). For some of you, if you don't realize it yet, Zimbabwe and Venezuela are your Sangri-las. I would have a sangria now ... if it wasn't time to go to work ;-(
I know what medical care costs, my mother is in a nursing home. Neither Germany nor the tax payer nor the Federal Reserve is paying for it. But of course in socialist land, someone is paying for it in other countries ... who? Where does the money come from? I am talking to you, Canada ;-)
Quote from: Atheon on January 25, 2017, 07:02:08 AM
Trump and his minions are doing everything they can to dismantle the advances that Obama brought us. But one thing they can never take from him is the fact that Obama succeeded in doing away with Osama bin Laden.
How dare you not be a pacifist! And how do you know he wasn't a body double? They do that, you know. Funny what happened to that body.
Quote from: Baruch on January 25, 2017, 07:06:06 AM
Medicine costs money. Any money you give to an insurance company (ambulance chaser) up front, is money you don't have for medical care. People are ... idiots (not you personally). Life insurance works, sort of. Health insurance is a mathematical rip off by crooks. Sorry if you get sick, but show up at the emergency room or doctors office with a suitcase of money, or go die somewhere.
Of course this cost is all shifted, and others shafted ... if the US rips off the rest of the world thru dollar manipulation ... or if we simply print unlimited money (electronically please, don't kill all the trees). For some of you, if you don't realize it yet, Zimbabwe and Venezuela are your Sangri-las. I would have a sangria now ... if it wasn't time to go to work ;-(
I know what medical care costs, my mother is in a nursing home. Neither Germany nor the tax payer nor the Federal Reserve is paying for it. But of course in socialist land, someone is paying for it in other countries ... who? Where does the money come from? I am talking to you, Canada ;-)
Sure, medical care costs money, but 1) the costs themselves are hyperinflated in the US (I can pay out of pocket for medical treatment in Taiwan for far less than insurance-covered healthcare in the US), and 2) most industrialized countries have universal healthcare, and it actually works well.
It's basically insurance: everyone pools money together, and when you need it, you are covered. Risk is spread.
And a healthy society is a productive society.
As for where much of the money comes from, the fairest way in my opinion is to tax the fuck out of the super rich, who can afford it. The economy is always invigorated when the rich get taxed heavily.
Unfortunately, the rich, powerful and famous ... don't care about you or me. They never have, never will. Also you will die holding your breath, expecting anyone to act or think reasonably ... there is no such unicorn. Yes, money can be shifted from one sector to another, even if you don't have under the table money going into our out of your national system. BTW - If Taiwan paid the US for their defense, they wouldn't have a fried rice bowl to piss in. And it isn't just the US manipulating the dollar of the Red Chinese manipulating the Yuan ... I am sure that ROC is doing something similar ;-)
Donald Trump Signs Anti-Abortion Executive Order Surrounded By Men
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-abortion-men_us_5886369be4b0e3a7356a7910
In a room full of white people, Trump signed an order that will impact Native American land
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-push-forward-dakota-access-keystone-xl-pipelines-standing-rock-protest-executive-orders-a7543711.html
Quote from: Atheon on January 25, 2017, 04:04:49 PM
In a room full of white people, Trump signed an order that will impact Native American land
Oh well, I guess all white people are evil then.
you do understand the difference between political ideology and skin color right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0diJNybk0Mw
Quote from: Atheon on January 25, 2017, 07:02:08 AM
Trump and his minions are doing everything they can to dismantle the advances that Obama brought us.
Hell, they want to do away with everything FDR brought us!
Goodbye New Deal!
Rendezvous with destiny: Newt Gingrich’s long war against FDR and the New Deal enters its final stage (http://www.salon.com/2016/12/26/rendezvous-with-destiny-newt-gingrichs-long-war-against-fdr-and-the-new-deal-enters-its-final-stage/)
Some people are awake ... yes, FDR was a traitor to his own wealthy class. Now if people will just realize that Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama are all part of that scam, they are closet Republicans. Bernie was the only FDR man in the bunch, and America didn't support him.
"But Hilarry sendet emalz!!"
Trump White House staffers have active private RNC emails, report says
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-white-house-staffers-private-rnc-emails-report-article-1.2955470?utm_content=bufferca8cf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-C4FyMKbTjjM/WIjWVDRLceI/AAAAAAAACXs/9NRWmtWOcMoJKefsy1LW8wpwQad27eefACLcB/s1600/daily012517.jpeg)
Quote from: Munch on January 25, 2017, 04:36:52 PM
Oh well, I guess all white people are evil then.
you do understand the difference between political ideology and skin color right?
When you're signing legislation that
harms a minority group, and you surround yourself with only white people, it makes all white people look bad, not merely the people in the photo.
How America has fallen. :(
Donald Trump advocates torture, actually using the word "torture". America used to be renowned for being the good guys; a model for other countries to follow. Now we are fast becoming no better than those we call enemies.
1. Torture does not work. It is proven not to work.
2. Torture makes Americans LESS safe.
3. America has lost its moral authority.
4. If we torture, then our enemies are far less likely to surrender to us in battle.
5. "But they torture our people, hurr durr." Yes, and we are supposed to be BETTER than them.
6. "But they burn people and chop off heads, hurr durr." Irrelevant. Torture of any kind is unacceptable.
7. Torture is just fucking WRONG. America is NOT supposed to torture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8FjQY5WCfI
Quote from: Atheon on January 26, 2017, 01:05:13 AM
When you're signing legislation that harms a minority group, and you surround yourself with only white people, it makes all white people look bad, not merely the people in the photo.
No it really doesn't. It showed what assholes republicans can be, but if all you see is skin colour then you've got another problem.
(https://i1.wp.com/blackmeninamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Black-Republicans-Poster.jpg)
omg, all these black people must all be uncle tomz
It used to be normal for Blacks to be Republicans, and abnormal for them to be Democrats. What is old will become new again.
Quote from: Munch on January 25, 2017, 04:36:52 PM
Oh well, I guess all white people are evil then.
you do understand the difference between political ideology and skin color right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0diJNybk0Mw
So was the first thing said sexist towards men as well?
Quote from: Shiranu on January 26, 2017, 08:03:22 AM
So was the first thing said sexist towards men as well?
Its the convenience of irrationality to blanket a single gender and skin color based on the actions of a few. And lets not side around the fact the same people irrationally claim all white people are evil, would also be the same people who accuse white men as the most evil (unless subjegated to their cause). The apple doesn't fall far from the tree in this mentality.
Well it's all settled then. I have to become an evil republican now because I am in fact a white man in America. Yup. That's it. I'll run right out and buy guns to kill anyone not quite as white as me.. In fact I'll probably have to go start killing off women as well.
Damned..being a white man is hard! I think I'll just have a sex change and become a black woman so I can have it easy for the rest of my life. No..I think instead I'll pretend to be an illegal immigrant so I can get a free convenience store in a shitty neighborhood just given to me from Uncle Sugar.
Yes ... he snowflakes in Hollywood are becoming survivalists en-mass! Look it up. Get your rainbow fallout shelter while there is still time!
Quote from: Baruch on January 26, 2017, 06:40:37 AM
It used to be normal for Blacks to be Republicans, and abnormal for them to be Democrats. What is old will become new again.
It used to be normal for republicans to be progressives and democrats to be conservatives too.
Quote from: Munch on January 25, 2017, 04:36:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0diJNybk0Mw
Who is the freak in the video anyway? (I've seen a longer verrsion too.) Isn't he a white male? Judging by his five-o'clock shadow and receding hairline, I'd say he's a male.
Yes, he is a white male. A self hating, brainwashed white male.
The very best of American "education". A democrat voter.
Quote from: pr126 on January 26, 2017, 02:05:28 PM
Yes, he is a white male. A self hating, brainwashed white male.
The very best of American "education". A democrat voter.
Probably a Green voter. He doesn't seem smart enough for strategic voting.
Quote from: Atheon on January 25, 2017, 10:34:56 PM
"But Hilarry sendet emalz!!"
Trump White House staffers have active private RNC emails, report says
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-white-house-staffers-private-rnc-emails-report-article-1.2955470?utm_content=bufferca8cf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw
Apparently, what's good for the goose no longer applies to the gander...
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/REWu0qkVOCI/hqdefault.jpg)
Quote from: Atheon on January 26, 2017, 01:56:42 PM
Who is the freak in the video anyway? (I've seen a longer verrsion too.) Isn't he a white male? Judging by his five-o'clock shadow and receding hairline, I'd say he's a male.
thats kind of the point. when there are ideologies that breed this kind of person, who are completely self hating, its not healthy, and I do put it on the same shelf as say gay people indoctrinated into a religion that tells him its wrong to be what he is.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 26, 2017, 12:58:06 PM
It used to be normal for republicans to be progressives and democrats to be conservatives too.
Reversion to the mean, does interesting things.
First they came for the Syrian refugees, and I did not speak out, because I was not a Syrian refugee.
Then they came for the Mexican immigrants, and I did not speak out, because I was not a Mexican immigrant...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/refugees-immigrants-wall-trump.html?_r=0
One of these days, they're coming for YOU, and there will be nobody left to speak out for you.
Quote from: Atheon on January 26, 2017, 02:21:49 PM
Probably a Green voter. He doesn't seem smart enough for strategic voting.
Strategic voting? You mean of the D, by the D, for the D? How did that work out in Vietnam?
Quote from: Atheon on January 27, 2017, 07:34:56 AM
First they came for the Syrian refugees, and I did not speak out, because I was not a Syrian refugee.
Then they came for the Mexican immigrants, and I did not speak out, because I was not a Mexican immigrant...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/refugees-immigrants-wall-trump.html?_r=0
One of these days, they're coming for YOU, and there will be nobody left to speak out for you.
Maybe you can die for their sins ... anyone's sins? Your halo is a bit crooked for an atheist ;-)
Move all the Syrian refugees to China ... they know how to make kung pao Syrian style.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 26, 2017, 03:46:06 PM
Apparently, what's good for the goose no longer applies to the gander...
Colin Powell did it, and advised Hillary to do it. It is bipartisan. I just hope these dopes have better email security.
Exactly. In fact, it's very common, and there's nothing inherently wrong with it: these people have to be able to do their work wherever they are. But the government needs to ensure that the communications are secure.
It's more the hypocrisy I'm condemning. Hillary was defeated because of this bogus issue.
Even Dick Cheney is appalled by Trump's persecution of Muslims! :O
"Dick Cheney Thinks Trump's Muslim Ban Is 'Against Everything We Stand For'"
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/dick-cheney-donald-trump-muslim-ban-extreme
Quote from: Atheon on January 28, 2017, 12:56:58 AMEven Dick Cheney is appalled by Trump's persecution of Muslims! :O
"Dick Cheney Thinks Trump's Muslim Ban Is 'Against Everything We Stand For'"
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/dick-cheney-donald-trump-muslim-ban-extreme
Damn. When you're a Republican and Dick Cheney thinks you've gone off the deep end, you drowned a week ago.
The very last bit... painfully relevant both in the real world and the cyber.
Quote from: Atheon on January 28, 2017, 12:55:44 AM
Exactly. In fact, it's very common, and there's nothing inherently wrong with it: these people have to be able to do their work wherever they are. But the government needs to ensure that the communications are secure.
It's more the hypocrisy I'm condemning. Hillary was defeated because of this bogus issue.
Hillary was defeated by Bill, Hillary was defeated by corruption that would make Nixon blush, Hillary was defeated by poor strategy, Hillary was defeated by poor health, Hillary was defeated by Weiner's laptop, Hillary was defeated by poor email security (mostly DNC and Pedesta, not her server ... nobody has produced any from her server that were hacked).
And yes, I would be fired at once, if I did what she did with government email. Hypocrisy much? Not a bogus issue, just not the most important one. Hillary was defeated because of a wave of revulsion against Democrats and their ... questionable policy and personal behavior ... for the last 40 years. But the D party is Manifest Destiny ... hubris is a bitch, the payback is epic. Perhaps the D party won't even survive now, because they were so sure of their righteousness and inevitability ... Soros told them so.
Quote from: Atheon on January 28, 2017, 12:56:58 AM
Even Dick Cheney is appalled by Trump's persecution of Muslims! :O
"Dick Cheney Thinks Trump's Muslim Ban Is 'Against Everything We Stand For'"
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/dick-cheney-donald-trump-muslim-ban-extreme
Dick Cheney is the first one to see the firing squad. He betrayed Valery Plame and all her contacts. Ms Plame didn't suffer death, just the end of her usefulness as an intelligence operative. Her foreign contacts probably suffered death. How can you quote that Dick ... when he doesn't even support his gay daughter?
Every day Trump and his band of Nazis is sending our once-great nation further into the pits of fascist hell. In one week he has made America the worst country I have ever seen it, and there seems to be no end. Something's gotta give, or a holocaust is coming.
That's why so many people were cryin on the TV when DonRump won. They were smart enough to know what kind of disaster was coming to the U.S.
Quote from: Atheon on January 27, 2017, 07:34:56 AM
First they came for the Syrian refugees, and I did not speak out, because I was not a Syrian refugee.
Then they came for the Mexican immigrants, and I did not speak out, because I was not a Mexican immigrant...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/refugees-immigrants-wall-trump.html?_r=0
One of these days, they're coming for YOU, and there will be nobody left to speak out for you.
And if they can torture - any one at all -
they can torture you!
Quote from: Munch on January 25, 2017, 04:36:52 PM
Oh well, I guess all white people are evil then.
you do understand the difference between political ideology and skin color right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0diJNybk0Mw
What the fuck? Are you always deliberately obtuse? You are fucking ridiculous.
Now I know what doomsday the Chump wealthy are so afraid of - the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE!
(https://democracychronicles.com/wp-content/uploads/Untitled-8f-15.jpg)
Meanwhile lots in the opposition to trump are celebrating and promoting violence against people on the basis of their ideology (without even making it conditional on due process) and violence seems indeed to be increasing with the anarchist black blocs tearing shit apart and that guy who got shot in a protest against a Milo speech. Yep America is in trouble, trump will take rightwing authoritarian measures exacerbating the toxic ideas and behaviors of the left which have been bubbling this last few years. They will chant stupid shit like 'bash the fash' and go streetfight trump supporters and altright people untill many more people get shot and stabbed in a cycle of violence. Beyond that you can already see the more widespread use by both sides of the toxic techniques of ostracizement, smear campaings, censorship, propaganda, targeting the employement of enemies and their privacy. There is a legitimate pull towards a center born out of liberals dissaciating themselves from SJWs, but the rise of the alt-right and trumpbots, and the increasing radicalization of SJWs in the face of trump, seems to make it even harder for people to stay grounded.
Why do you assume Americans are grounded in the first place? BTW - welcome back, I have missed you, and so has Shoe ;-)
The Ds had their chance to drone all the Rs with God Obama ... but they missed their chance. Now the Rs will drone all the Ds. Trial by jury is so .. 18th century.
Utterly supportive of the protects against Jabba The Trump...
I'm getting ready to watch the coming purge of all the critical posts in the government. Chump will put his own loyalist foxes in every henhouse.
Quote from: Cavebear on January 31, 2017, 03:14:30 PM
Utterly supportive of the protects against Jabba The Trump...
Do you distinguish between snails vs slugs ... you bigot you!
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 31, 2017, 05:21:07 PM
I'm getting ready to watch the coming purge of all the critical posts in the government. Chump will put his own loyalist foxes in every henhouse.
With the spoils system, and no civil service, we would get to purge the entire 1.5 million government civilians, each time we change the dominant party. That would be a good start, at least every 4 years.
I've been listening to Thom Hartmann for many years, he's one of the sources I trust considerably. Bernie Sanders was on his program every Friday for about 10 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmiXJwzOlG8
Better than otherwise not gainfully employed SJWs virtue signaling each other ;-)
Could you say that in English?
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 01, 2017, 07:42:26 PM
Could you say that in English?
A young person like you, should be like a hep cat with all the hot jive.
Advocates are unemployed people with big mouths. I disdain the work advice of such successful people.
Success can be measured in many ways, grasshopper...
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 01, 2017, 07:45:23 PM
Success can be measured in many ways, grasshopper...
Yes, one can earn a Darwin award. No thanks.
They fucking handcuffed a five-year-old boy. Have you no decency, Mr. Trump?
White House claims five-year-old boy detained in US airport for hours 'could have posed a security threat'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/white-house-five-year-old-boy-detained-dulles-international-airport-hours-sean-spicer-pose-security-a7554521.html
Not the first time .. airport security can be ... rough. There was a woman, who was acting odd, and the airport fuzz arrested her. She raged at them, so they handcuffed her to a chair in police custody area, and came back a half day later to check on her. She was dead, from not being able to take the meds, that her carelessness had already caused her to be unbalanced in the first place.
Tell me when Trump personally bitch slapped someone ... I might cheer ;-) But blame him for something some government employee did? Please arrest Obama too. And all the immigrants whose paperwork isn't straight.
Correcting with original news article ... war of news articles ... small edit above ...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/woman-who-died-at-airport-was-rehab-bound/
Trump Administration conveniently fails to mention the Jews in Holocaust memorial statement, and is hailed (or should that be "heiled"?) by Neo-Nazi Richard Spencer.
http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.768982
Quote from: Atheon on February 01, 2017, 08:01:33 PM
Trump Administration conveniently fails to mention the Jews in Holocaust memorial statement, and is hailed (or should that be "heiled"?) by Neo-Nazi Richard Spencer.
http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.768982
Israel isn't happy with any US President, who isn't their bitch. Of course Obama wasn't their bitch either, Netanyahu hated him. We will have to see how well Trump does. So if David Duke likes someone, we can gas them? Obama aided a lot of Ukrainian neo-Nazis.
Quote from: Baruch on February 01, 2017, 08:00:21 PM
Not the first time .. airport security can be ... rough. There was a woman, who was acting odd, and the airport fuzz arrested her. She raged at them, so they handcuffed her to a chair in police custody area, and came back a half day later to check on her. She was dead, from not being able to take the meds, that her carelessness had already caused her to be unbalanced in the first place.
Tell me when Trump personally bitch slapped someone ... I might cheer ;-) But blame him for something some government employee did? Please arrest Obama too. And all the immigrants whose paperwork isn't straight.
Spicer, the Trump regime's Minister of Propaganda, personally said the boy was cuffed because he posed a security threat.
A five-year-old boy.
Quote from: Atheon on February 01, 2017, 08:16:00 PM
Spicer, the Trump regime's Minister of Propaganda, personally said the boy was cuffed because he posed a security threat.
A five-year-old boy.
Cops are doing a lot of that lately, and actually shooting them. It disturbs me too! Apparently they can't tell a Democrat unless they have a big D on their foreheads, and even Democrats aren't that dumb ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on February 01, 2017, 08:21:47 PM
Cops are doing a lot of that lately, and actually shooting them. It disturbs me too! Apparently they can't tell a Democrat unless they have a big D on their foreheads, and even Democrats aren't that dumb ;-)
Most of that happens in Republican jurisdictions and in police forces militarized under the Bush Administration. Nationwide, Congress makes law, and Congress has been Repube since 2011.
The reason cops are behaving like this is because of a right-wing cop culture fueled by Repubes.
Quote from: Atheon on February 01, 2017, 08:25:05 PM
Most of that happens in Republican jurisdictions and in police forces militarized under the Bush Administration. Nationwide, Congress makes law, and Congress has been Repube since 2011.
The reason cops are behaving like this is because of a right-wing cop culture fueled by Repubes.
You may be right ... also cops hired are ex-military with PTSD ;-(
Actions have consequences, and Trump's occupancy of the White House will end up with negative consequences for us all, yes, including Trump supporters themselves. We prospered under Clinton and Obama, and freedoms were expanded (particularly in gay rights and healthcare); we will suffer big time under Trump far worse than we did under Bush.
We are losing our freedoms as we speak, and the Republicnas have a huge agenda of destruction on their plate that they are eager to advance.
It already affects me, and I belong to the favored race, gender and sexual orientation of the New Reich (and I could fake being a Christian in a pinch), and I'm not poor. For instance, I can't go to Iran now, which was something I was hoping to do soon. If someone as privileged as me is affected negatively, just imagine how people who aren't members of privileged categories will be affected.
"Frederick Douglass is an example of somebody who’s done an amazing job and is being recognized more and more, I notice." - Comrade Twitler
I have no words.
This being an atheist forum, this should be of concern to atheists.
Leaked Draft of Trump’s Religious Freedom Order Reveals Sweeping Plans to Legalize Discrimination
If signed, the order would create wholesale exemptions for people and organizations who claim religious objections to same-sex marriage, premarital sex, abortion, and trans identity.
My comment: FREEDOM DOES NOT INCLUDE THE RIGHT TO VIOLATE THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS.
https://www.thenation.com/article/leaked-draft-of-trumps-religious-freedom-order-reveals-sweeping-plans-to-legalize-discrimination/
(Why any atheist would support Trump or the Republicans, who are in league with the Religious Right and gladly do their bidding, is quite beyond my capacity.)
The Catholic Church is behind that one, as is the Mormon Church vs gay rights initiative a few years ago in California. You are up against more than just Republicans, but also religious Democrats. It is easy for unscrupulous politicians (is there any other kind?) to bash a minority like atheists or gays.
Its interesting to track how old presidents look from when they begin to when they end, must be such a taxing job that manifests in their personal appearance.
(http://i.imgur.com/D1pz31c.jpg)
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
Steve Bannon: 'We're going to war in the South China Sea ... no doubt'
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/02/steve-bannon-donald-trump-war-south-china-sea-no-doubt
("But Hillary sent emails!!!" Fuck you.)
Quote from: Atheon on February 02, 2017, 09:47:43 AM
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
Steve Bannon: 'We're going to war in the South China Sea ... no doubt'
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/02/steve-bannon-donald-trump-war-south-china-sea-no-doubt
("But Hillary sent emails!!!" Fuck you.)
That directly impacts you on Taiwan ... and I am concerned for you. But if you had chosen Hillary we would nuke Russia instead.
Quote from: Atheon on February 01, 2017, 07:57:10 PM
Have you no decency, Mr. Trump?
This
is a rhetorical question, right?
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 02, 2017, 03:23:15 PM
This is a rhetorical question, right?
Hillary was decent ... if she kept her clothes on. And no, President Trump isn't decent .. he needs to join ISIS and decapitate people ... so the Snowflakes grow some.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gYcXLYe_rE
Here's the text:
http://millercenter.org/president/fdroosevelt/speeches/speech-3316
QuoteAnd one more point on this: (Also) Our present emergency and a common sense of decency make it imperative that no new group of war millionaires shall come into being in this nation as a result of the struggles abroad. The American people will not relish the idea of any American citizen growing rich and fat in an emergency of blood and slaughter and human suffering.
QuoteBut there is an added technique for weakening a nation at its very roots, for disrupting the entire pattern of life of a people. And it is important that we understand it.
The method is simple. It is, first, discord, a dissemination of discord. A group --not too large -- a group that may be sectional or racial or political -- is encouraged to exploit (their) its prejudices through false slogans and emotional appeals. The aim of those who deliberately egg on these groups is to create confusion of counsel, public indecision, political paralysis and eventually, a state of panic.
Sound national policies come to be viewed with a new and unreasoning skepticism, not through the wholesome (political) debates of honest and free men, but through the clever schemes of foreign agents.
That is why he had to cut off Prentice Bush's nuts. Prentice never forgave him, or his son, or his grandsons. Trading with the enemy was ... poorly timed.
Quote from: Baruch on February 02, 2017, 06:56:21 PM
Hillary was decent ... if she kept her clothes on. And no, President Trump isn't decent .. he needs to join ISIS and decapitate people ... so the Snowflakes grow some.
I wonder if your ass ever gets jealous of your mouth (or fingers) for all the crap it spews?
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 02, 2017, 06:58:45 PM
I wonder if your ass ever gets jealous of your mouth (or fingers) for all the crap it spews?
Crap and piss are the primary outputs of ape people ... and our primary weapons systems too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3r-bOgjBLw
Wow, this Spicer guy really spices things up!
D corruption only open, if you hack Hillary's email server ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on February 01, 2017, 08:21:47 PM
Cops are doing a lot of that lately, and actually shooting them. It disturbs me too! Apparently they can't tell a Democrat unless they have a big D on their foreheads, and even Democrats aren't that dumb ;-)
Um, where do I go to get the dumb D on my forehead removed?
Seriously, it seems democrats aren't exactly hiding lately. There are anti-Trump demonstatrors all over the place.
Don't forget the Bowling Green Massacre (http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q490/atheola/C33UgR8UcAEVL3V.jpg)
The Truth was rather old, so its demise didn't come as a surprise. Usually government officials, like Pontius Pilate, or religious officials, like the Sanhedrin, are careful to suppress or crucify it.
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on February 05, 2017, 01:50:27 PM
Don't forget the Bowling Green Massacre (http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q490/atheola/C33UgR8UcAEVL3V.jpg)
Just wait 'till the zombie apocalypse - Douglass won't be dead any more!
Here's some pretty worrying pending legislation. Most of these probably won't come to anything, but then again, I said the same of Trump's candidacy.
H.R.899 - To terminate the Department of Education. (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/899/cosponsors)
H.R.861 - To terminate the Environmental Protection Agency. (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/861/cosponsors)
H.R.637 - Stopping EPA Overreach Act of 2017 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/637/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22EPA%22%5D%7D&r=1). This one's really bad (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/02/08/1631479/-Stopping-EPA-Overreach-Act-may-be-the-true-environmentally-dangerous-new-House-Bill). And by pure coincidence, has a shitload of Republican cosponsors and nobody else from any other party.
H.R.36 - Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act (https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/36/cosponsors) Essentially, this criminalizes abortion after 20 weeks. Once again, nothing but Rs. This has been tried before (https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr36), but failed. Because of the Republican surge in the last election, this might actually have a shot this time around.
This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Can somebody pass out the barf bags?
Hydra you're killing us. As they say ignorance is bliss, but the more we know about what Trump is doing, the more neccessary having a barf bag will be.
Trump hasn't done a single thing to unite the country. Just in case people aren't watching Hydra is reminding us in gruesome detail the Trump is hell-bent on destroying the U.S.
an EPA director that is known to want to eliminate the EPA
an nominee for FAA that wants to privatize the FAA
an Education Secretary that hates public schools
energy secretary that believes in "drill baby drill"
Congress is working to repeal a law that prevents coal mines from dumping near rivers
H.R.899 - To terminate the Department of Education.
Good grief.
Does this mean no more leftist indoctrination in colleges? What will all those tenured Marxist professors do?
No more SJW snowflakes running to safe places?
What about all those life shaping classes?
Gender studies, women studies, race studies, LGBTQXML studies and many more - so important to get decent well paying jobs later in life.
The horror.
The upside, less democrat voters.
Quote from: Baruch on February 03, 2017, 06:14:36 PM
D corruption only open, if you hack Hillary's email server ;-)
Hillary did nothing wrong. All those emails were about yoga, love letters to Bill, recipes for guacamole, notes to the cleaning staff.
Quote from: fencerider on February 10, 2017, 02:56:55 AMTrump hasn't done a single thing to unite the country. Just in case people aren't watching Hydra is reminding us in gruesome detail the Trump is hell-bent on destroying the U.S.
Knowledge is power. Hopefully, being more familiar with the Republican agenda will aid in someday reversing it.
Quotean EPA director that is known to want to eliminate the EPA
an nominee for FAA that wants to privatize the FAA
an Education Secretary that hates public schools
energy secretary that believes in "drill baby drill"
Congress is working to repeal a law that prevents coal mines from dumping near rivers
Don't forget the Attorney General who would double down on the failed Drug War (http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/crime/317593-jeff-sessions-will-double-down-on-failed-drug-war). And a diplomat-in-chief who can't even take a phone call without getting huffy and slamming down the phone and spends a lot of his time whining on Twitter. It's like a bizarro universe administration.
Quote from: pr126 on February 10, 2017, 05:51:56 AM
H.R.899 - To terminate the Department of Education.
Good grief.
Does this mean no more leftist indoctrination in colleges? What will all those tenured Marxist professors do?
No more SJW snowflakes running to safe places?
What about all those life shaping classes?
Gender studies, women studies, race studies, LGBTQXML studies and many more - so important to get decent well paying jobs later in life.
The horror.
The upside, less democrat voters.
How unsurprising you are against education. You've certainly seemed successful enough with out it.
Unfortunately it is true ... the Republicans are using this opportunity to double down on their stupidity ... just like Democrats did 8 years ago. Both sides claim self-righteousness. Maybe time for a third party ... call it ... Sane Party?
Quote from: fencerider on February 10, 2017, 02:56:55 AM
an EPA director that is known to want to eliminate the EPA
an nominee for FAA that wants to privatize the FAA
an Education Secretary that hates public schools
energy secretary that believes in "drill baby drill"
Congress is working to repeal a law that prevents coal mines from dumping near rivers
I'm surprised Rush Limbaugh wasn't put in charge of the FCC...I guess it would be too much of a fall in salary.
In Real Bowling Green Massacre, a White Supremacist Planned Attack Against African Americans & Jews (https://www.democracynow.org/2017/2/10/white_supremacists_linked_to_the_real)
I wonder if there's method to his madness - or just madness.
An Incomplete List of Racist Incidents Since Donald Trump Was Elected President (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/11/13/a_list_of_racist_incidents_across_the_united_states_since_donald_trump_was.html)
How President Trump Could Seize More Power After a Terrorist Attack (http://www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-lizza/how-president-trump-could-seize-more-power-after-a-terrorist-attack)
BIN LADEN AND 9/11: THE EVIDENCE (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/10/30/bin-laden-and-9-11-the-evidence/)
If there's no evidence that Bin Laden was behind 9/11, just who the hell was?
Maybe...Martians!?
Major historical events are always mysterious ... and never solved. Like how much did FDR know about the Pearl Harbor attack, before it happened?
As far as 9/11 goes, there is just as much funny stuff about it, as there was about the Lincoln assassination, and we will never get to the bottom of that either. But some story must be told, one that supports the status quo, the Intelligence community, and the wealthy.
Trump's purge of fellow human beings has begun. Apparently he believes human beings are less worthy than human beings. Can't let human beings live in a country occupied by human beings, after all. (Oh, that's right: they're brown!)
"Federal agents conduct immigration enforcement raids in at least six states"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/federal-agents-conduct-sweeping-immigration-enforcement-raids-in-at-least-6-states/2017/02/10/4b9f443a-efc8-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.581653ae51cd
I guess he's going to make internment camps and start branding illegal immigrants now.
He hasn't done that yet? Oh well, guess he's still better then Roosevelt.
But wait, Roosevelt invented the teddy bear!
(http://www.bears4u.co.uk/images/Maxie/Maxie-Gund-Teddy-Bear_LRG.jpg)
Aww so maybe trump is worse then.
Quote from: Atheon on February 10, 2017, 07:29:53 PMTrump's purge of fellow human beings has begun. Apparently he believes human beings are less worthy than human beings. Can't let human beings live in a country occupied by human beings, after all. (Oh, that's right: they're brown!)
"Federal agents conduct immigration enforcement raids in at least six states"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/federal-agents-conduct-sweeping-immigration-enforcement-raids-in-at-least-6-states/2017/02/10/4b9f443a-efc8-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.581653ae51cd
Let's not get carried away. If you start claiming that Trump's going after brown people when it's not immediately obvious that's the case, it opens you up to conservative dismissal of your post on the basis that you're reading more into the situation than there is based on your dissatisfaction with Trump.
Imho, the facts on the ground are objectionable enough:
The immigration authorities conducted raids to arrest and deport suspected undocumented immigrants. These raids were abnormally intense and affected undocumented immigrants who are not suspected of having committed any other crime. This marks a departure from the Obama administration, which prioritized undocumented immigrants with a criminal record.
In essence, Trump is shifting immigration policy from targeted arrests to blanket arrests. This arguably could have a very negative effect in the long-term.
For example, if police are tasked to enforce immigration policy, it's likely to overtax limited police resources, distracting them from combating violent crime (https://www.wsj.com/articles/police-officials-are-wary-of-bigger-role-in-immigration-enforcement-1485884911). Additionally, undocumented immigrants - including children - could become less likely to call police (due to fear of being deported), making them more likely to be victimized. This policy could have exactly the opposite result of its intended outcome, making America less safe rather than safer.
There, a measured criticism less likely to be dismissed out of hand.
And Saint Obama deported more immigrants than any President before him. It is against the law, for the top official in charge of carrying out the law (aka the President) to actually enforce the law. If you don't like the law, get Congress to change it. But don't just ignore the law, because you don't like it, otherwise you smell a lot like a Republican ;-)
Teddy Roosevelt is connected to the bear, FDR was his younger cousin.
There is a method to madness. It seeks division among rational people, creates uncertainity, picks out specific groups to attack, spreads false news, misuses power to cause chaos in society to take advantage of fear, and seeks to perpetuate itself in the form of The One True Leader.
Reminds me of 1930s Germany... Oh well, it can't happen HERE, right?
Quote from: Cavebear on February 11, 2017, 01:42:00 AM
There is a method to madness. It seeks division among rational people, creates uncertainity, picks out specific groups to attack, spreads false news, misuses power to cause chaos in society to take advantage of fear, and seeks to perpetuate itself in the form of The One True Leader.
Reminds me of 1930s Germany... Oh well, it can't happen HERE, right?
Already did, then FDR died. And I don't think his death was entirely natural either. OSS did it, to save Germany at the last moment. Catholics, all the way down.
Quote from: Baruch on February 11, 2017, 09:39:52 AM
Already did, then FDR died. And I don't think his death was entirely natural either. OSS did it, to save Germany at the last moment. Catholics, all the way down.
OK, that is so odd, I'm signing off. Time for dinner!
Quote from: Cavebear on February 11, 2017, 09:45:24 AM
OK, that is so odd, I'm signing off. Time for dinner!
You were keeping me from breakfast, bruin. i get cranky when I wake up from my short hibernation.
Let's not forget that zenophobic old bigot Trump lived through the red-scare. He's got a lotta crazy stuff goin on in his head; undoubtedly twice as crazy as what he lets out for people to see...
Quote from: fencerider on February 11, 2017, 02:13:56 PM
Let's not forget that zenophobic old bigot Trump lived through the red-scare. He's got a lotta crazy stuff goin on in his head; undoubtedly twice as crazy as what he lets out for people to see...
The Soviets were scary. Triggered Gen Z ... not so much.
Quote from: Hydra009 on February 10, 2017, 09:01:42 PM
This policy could have exactly the opposite result of its intended outcome, making America less safe rather than safer.
No, I think that is
exactly its intended outcome...
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 11, 2017, 03:51:13 PM
No, I think that is exactly its intended outcome...
You better hide Neo ... the replicated bad hologram guys are gaining on you!
I'm well hidden, thank you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzWppkh4JJY
Tom Price was just confirmed as Secretary of Health and Human Services by straight party-line vote - Republicans voting yes and Democrats voting no.
He wants to gut Obamacare and deny 18 million Americans healthcare (https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/01/under-tom-prices-aca-killing-plan-18m-lose-insurance-and-premiums-rise/).
"Price has not cast a single pro-choice vote. His record in issues of birth control and choice last year earned him a 0% rating from Planned Parenthood.
Tom Price has never met an anti-abortion cause he won’t rally behind. In 2005, he co-sponsored a bill in the House that would have defined human life as beginning at the moment of conception. That would have turned many forms of contraceptionâ€"IUDs, the morning-after pill, and good old hormonal birth control pillsâ€"into potential implements of murder in the eyes of the law, as well as outlawing most abortions"
Source: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/29/trump-health-czar-tom-price-is-a-nightmare-for-women.html
He's rated 0% by NORML for his anti-marijuana decriminalization and pro-Drug War stances.
He's against embryonic stem cell research.
And if that wasn't bad enough, Price has a habit of buying stock in medical companies, then voting on legislation that would affect those prices (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/18/opinion/tom-prices-dubious-trades-in-health-care-stocks.html), and would also take bribes campaign donations from said companies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Price_(U.S._politician)#Investment_activity_and_ethics_allegations), continuing a cycle of corruption.
At this point, anyone claiming that Trump is "draining the swamp" is a filthy liar.
No swamp draining, just D party folks to the Fema camps ;-(
Also, remember how Trump said that Planned Parenthood "does good things", leading people to falsely believe that he might have a moderate position on that issue? Well, look at the appointees. Do any of these people look like moderates to you?
Time to wake up and smell the corrupt, authoritarian coffee.
Anyone who sees Trump as a benefit to America clearly cannot think properly.
Quote from: Hydra009 on February 12, 2017, 02:29:54 PM
Do any of these people look like moderates to you?
If you mean moderately crazy as compared to Trump, yes. If you mean moderately in control of their mouth as compared to Trump, yes. If you mean politically centered carefully crafted and analized policy decisions, Hell No!!!
I mean moderate in terms of policy positions. We used to be a country skewed to the right in a lot of ways. Now we're so far to the right that we can't even see the road.
Hi, I'm Trumpie, Trumpie the Trump.
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/097/267/12c)
In this world, its stump of be stumped.
Quote from: Munch on February 12, 2017, 08:58:06 PM
Hi, I'm Trumpie, Trumpie the Trump.
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/097/267/12c)
In this world, its stump of be stumped.
The real face of Trump... Munch why didnt yu get the pic out before the election???
Quote from: fencerider on February 12, 2017, 10:10:32 PM
The real face of Trump... Munch why didnt yu get the pic out before the election???
Felt like I might be tempting fate, since trumpie the trump gets beaten in the end.
Art doesn't always reflect reality sadly.
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 11, 2017, 06:09:34 PM
Video Removed
FAKE NEWS
From the Dept of Ag website, when clicking on Reports (something Olberman staff should have done)
Editor’s Note (Revised Feb. 7, 2017) The review of APHIS’ website has been ongoing, and the agency is striving to balance the need for transparency with rules protecting individual privacy. In 2016,
well before the change of Administration, APHIS decided to make adjustments to the posting of regulatory records. In addition,
APHIS is currently involved in litigation concerning, among other issues, information posted on the agency’s website. While the agency is vigorously defending against this litigation, in an abundance of caution, the agency is taking additional measures to protect individual privacy. These decisions are not final. Adjustments may be made regarding information appropriate for release and posting.
It is in regards to ongoing litigation between people and the agency, not Trump Admin.
And there is more if one wants to check for themselves.
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ourfocus/animalwelfare
Pet food recalls, for the most part, begin with consumer complaints and not testing. The FDA website has never been a top-notch source if pet foods are causing issues. You are much better searching your pet food type and complaints to see what people are saying.
http://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary/safetyhealth/recallswithdrawals/
Point remains, Olberman is off base with his video.
The Republican barbarians are at the gate .. hide your pet goat!
Quote from: Baruch on February 13, 2017, 01:25:04 AM
The Republican barbarians are at the gate .. hide your pet goat!
I hesitate to ask how goats are meaningful to you. Gyros, I hope.
Regarding Republicans, though, I don't consider them "barbarians at the gate". They are already within.
there was a fat goat
who sat on a flat boat
in the middle of a moat
along came a Republican and said
There's no way
I'm gonna let you float
I hesitate to ask, but is there ANY post that Baruch has not "liked"?
Quote from: Cavebear on February 15, 2017, 01:24:56 AM
I hesitate to ask, but is there ANY post that Baruch has not "liked"?
The most Progressive aspect of this web site, is that there are "likes" and not "raspberries". Yes, I do like people, I am more social, just not socialist. But some of our stupider trolls, get zero, one or two "likes" from me, if they display humanity at all. Randy made many posts, but I think I gave him two likes, that was the number of times he was a human being.
Of course many of the people here are smart or witty or both ... I see no reason to apologize for liking that. What the anti-like people are like, they are like Anti-fa for this web site. They have delusions of being a web site admin, when they are not one.
Quote from: Baruch on February 15, 2017, 07:02:01 AM
The most Progressive aspect of this web site, is that there are "likes" and not "raspberries". Yes, I do like people, I am more social, just not socialist. But some of our stupider trolls, get zero, one or two "likes" from me, if they display humanity at all. Randy made many posts, but I think I gave him two likes, that was the number of times he was a human being.
Of course many of the people here are smart or witty or both ... I see no reason to apologize for liking that. What the anti-like people are like, they are like Anti-fa for this web site. They have delusions of being a web site admin, when they are not one.
Well I just meant I see a lot of "likes" and you are almost always one of them. It seems more reflexive than meaningful. Is there a purpose to that?
Quote from: Cavebear on February 15, 2017, 07:06:47 AM
Well I just meant I see a lot of "likes" and you are almost always one of them. It seems more reflexive than meaningful. Is there a purpose to that?
Absolutely ... there is method to my madness ... bwahaha. Or do you mean the high percentage of likes I give you, the high percentage of all like you get from everyone? Yes, I do like you. But unlike some others here, I am liking you they way they may like you ;-) Don't ask, don't bruin the coffee already!
Quote from: Baruch on February 15, 2017, 07:12:19 AM
Absolutely ... there is method to my madness ... bwahaha. Or do you mean the high percentage of likes I give you, the high percentage of all like you get from everyone? Yes, I do like you. But unlike some others here, I am liking you they way they may like you ;-) Don't ask, don't bruin the coffee already!
Far from me to "bruin the coffee"...
Quote from: Cavebear on February 15, 2017, 07:16:03 AM
Far from me to "bruin the coffee"...
Double entendre ... brewing vs ruin. Your choice. The earliest memory I have of coffee, was my earliest time camping in the woods. No bears, but the raccoons stole my mothers bacon and eggs (they weren't safely in the car) while we slept. Did the raccoons climb and jump on me as I slept in my sleeping bag, on that camp cot, out under the stars in S New Mexico?
Quote from: Baruch on February 15, 2017, 07:18:45 AM
Double entendre ... brewing vs ruin. Your choice. The earliest memory I have of coffee, was my earliest time camping in the woods. No bears, but the raccoons stole my mothers bacon and eggs (they weren't safely in the car) while we slept. Did the raccoons climb and jump on me as I slept in my sleeping bag, on that camp cot, out under the stars in S New Mexico?
Ah! Well I don't know the least thing about brewing coffee (never touch the stuff and the smell is annoying). Are you still trying to figure out if the raccoons jumped on you all those years ago? Did you ask God for help?
When we are young, we look up to our parents. They are taller, after all ;-)
This seems to be the current state of the Union:
It's one damned thing after another.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/80/a1/b7/80a1b768a5f61bcc2585299312b0e605.jpg)
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 16, 2017, 05:49:41 PM
This seems to be the current state of the Union:
It's one damned thing after another.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/80/a1/b7/80a1b768a5f61bcc2585299312b0e605.jpg)
Yep, 1960 - 1980 were great!
The Oklahoma House of Representatives is mulling a bill requiring women seeking an abortion to get the written consent of the would-be father (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/02/14/oklahoma-bill-would-require-father-of-fetus-to-approve-abortion/). It already passed in a House committee.
The bill's author, Rep. Justin Humphrey (R), explains:
Quote“I believe one of the breakdowns in our society is that we have excluded the man out of all of these types of decisions,†he said. “I understand that they feel like that is their body,†he said of women. “I feel like it is a separate â€" what I call them is, is you’re a ‘host.’
Women deserve equal rights and yadda yadda yadda but sometimes they make decisions for themselves that men don't agree with. All the GOP wants is for men to have an equal say over a woman's body. Is that really so wrong?
P.S. - You wouldn't be in this situation if you weren't so irresponsible and/or slutty.
P.P.S - Big shoutout to everyone who voted Republican in the last election. We wouldn't be here today without your help.
My POV is no victim blaming. The boys should be in chastity, except when released by their female keeper.
Quote from: Hydra009 on February 16, 2017, 08:30:45 PM
The Oklahoma House of Representatives is mulling a bill requiring women seeking an abortion to get the written consent of the would-be father (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/02/14/oklahoma-bill-would-require-father-of-fetus-to-approve-abortion/). It already passed in a House committee.
I do agree that a man should not have to pay child support if he did not want the baby and the woman decided to have it anyway.
I see this as a way for men to get their rights back in the battle.
Therefore, if the father wants the baby, he should be capable of supporting it on his own without any support from the mother.
Quote from: Sorginak on February 16, 2017, 09:56:20 PM
I do agree that a man should not have to pay child support if he did not want the baby and the woman decided to have it anyway.
I see this as a way for men to get their rights back in the battle.
Therefore, if the father wants the baby, he should be capable of supporting it on his own without any support from the mother.
So, if a baby exists, with your involvement, you think only the mother has any responsibilities?
Quote from: Sorginak on February 16, 2017, 09:56:20 PM
I do agree that a man should not have to pay child support if he did not want the baby and the woman decided to have it anyway.
I see this as a way for men to get their rights back in the battle.
Therefore, if the father wants the baby, he should be capable of supporting it on his own without any support from the mother.
This used to be controlled by a pater familias, and a shotgun.
The evil continues.
"Trump federal budget 2018: Massive cuts to the arts, science and the poor"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-federal-budget-2018-massive-cuts-to-the-arts-science-and-the-poor/2017/03/15/0a0a0094-09a1-11e7-a15f-a58d4a988474_story.html?utm_term=.d240b64d44c3
I thought you liberals don't believe in evil. That every thing you dislike is caused by "lesser good" ... your own flavor of "good" being the superior kind ... natch.
Quote from: Baruch on March 16, 2017, 06:43:22 AM
I thought you liberals don't believe in evil. That every thing you dislike is caused by "lesser good" ... your own flavor of "good" being the superior kind ... natch.
Evil does exist though, it's in the eyes of every child when they want a milky bar, or the tomatoes rotting at the bottom of your salad shelf. It's in the springtime flowers when they attract bees only get them covered in pollen, or the extended edition re-release of total recall.
Quote from: Baruch on March 16, 2017, 06:43:22 AM
I thought you liberals don't believe in evil. That every thing you dislike is caused by "lesser good" ... your own flavor of "good" being the superior kind ... natch.
Nah. We believe in evil.
Quote from: Atheon on March 16, 2017, 11:08:20 AM
Nah. We believe in evil.
I accept that some people are just downright mean evil and hateful. I just don't assign the cause to some deity.
I am seething with anger at this report.
Taiwanese citizens will be subject to "extreme vetting" (including being quizzed on ideology and asked for passwords). Taiwan. One of the most America-friendly countries on the planet, where terrorism is zero.
Quizzed on ideology to enter the country? ("Do you support Trump?" "No." "Back on the plane with you.") Even fucking North Korea doesn't do that.
http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3133543
To Trump and anyone who supports him: FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU to the power of infinity.
U.S. coal companies ask Trump to stick with Paris climate deal (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-coal-companies-ask-trump-to-stick-with-paris-climate-deal/ar-BBzm5GH?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp)
Atheon ... gave your last post a like, because I care, not because I agree with the particular policy. Hope things are all well with you. Thanks to putting all law enforcement in the hands of the IRS, you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent. We are all Al Capone now. So where were you, Nov 22, 1963 ... and can you prove it.
Quote from: Baruch on January 25, 2017, 07:06:06 AM
I know what medical care costs, my mother is in a nursing home. Neither Germany nor the tax payer nor the Federal Reserve is paying for it. But of course in socialist land, someone is paying for it in other countries ... who? Where does the money come from? I am talking to you, Canada ;-)
Obviously the money comes from the taxpayer. Because it's a service everyone needs. It's also a service that everyone needs everyone else to have too.
Quote from: Jason78 on April 05, 2017, 01:17:35 PM
Obviously the money comes from the taxpayer. Because it's a service everyone needs. It's also a service that everyone needs everyone else to have too.
But if the average citizen only generates $400 worth of actual product/service per year, it will be hard to pay for that $4000 per year medical cost. What is the actual output of Americans etc? Nobody knows, because your dollar/pound measuring stick, is rubber. Also the balance sheet is completely corrupted, so that the debits and credits are not credible. This is a problem with a non-tribal society. If you are in my tribe, I am obligated to take care of you (and beat you if you a lazy). In a nation, there is no tribal obligation. And of course with class, even if we are in the same tribe, the tribal elders think they are the only one's who deserve support.
And no, money gets cycled thru the taxpayer, but they aren't the one's who create it. The government creates it (as is necessary when we went to a monetary economy). The Pharaoh didn't need money, he was a god-man, and could get you to give him the agricultural surplus, and then employ that food to feed the labor surplus, to move big stones around. Nothing has changed in 4500 years ... except money makes it much easier to run an economy. The amount of money you have, or make per year, is a measure of your value. No money, no value. Hence poor people deserve poverty.
Trump to gut and/or kill Amtrak.
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http://www.nychicagorr.org/220-Cities-Losing-All-Passenger-Train-Service-per-Trump.html
Despite everything, the idiots still aren't reading the writing on the wall. Trump wasn't joking when he said he could shoot someone and not lose support.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YejX41ieY3k
Quote from: Atheon on April 05, 2017, 01:49:02 PM
Not born yet.
Can you prove it? Provide non-doctored photos please ;-) Maybe ask a Zen master.
Atheon has an axe to grind... I'll be in the back looking for my sharpening stone.
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Quote from: fencerider on April 06, 2017, 02:19:01 AM
D ickheaded
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Are these the qualificatons to become a billioner and a president?
Even you could do it then if you tried.
There is only one FDR etc ... and they are dead. Stop looking for the President you falsely remember (particularly if they lived before you were born). Stop looking for an ideal presented to you on TV shows and movies (was Henry Fonda a good President, in Fail Safe?). It is what it is, get over it.
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 05, 2017, 04:52:41 PM
Despite everything, the idiots still aren't reading the writing on the wall. Trump wasn't joking when he said he could shoot someone and not lose support.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YejX41ieY3k
damn it
How about ... shoot an airbase in Syria ... while trying to avoid hitting Russians? ;-(
Quote from: pr126 on April 06, 2017, 06:03:40 AM
Are these the qualificatons to become a billioner and a president?
Even you could do it then if you tried.
Have you accumulated a $billion? A $million?
Quote from: Cavebear on April 07, 2017, 12:35:23 AM
Have you accumulated a $billion? A $million?
No. I do not have those qualifications.
Quote from: pr126 on April 07, 2017, 03:59:45 AM
No. I do not have those qualifications.
Then you are NOT Trumpian!
Quote from: pr126 on April 07, 2017, 05:15:18 AM
Not even an American!
OH! Well then, you don't matter to Trump.
Quote from: Cavebear on April 07, 2017, 05:16:56 AM
OH! Well then, you don't matter to Trump.
Only his fellow Kenyans mattered to Obama ;-)
Democracy is truly dead. The Republican totalitarians just stole the Supreme Court. After unconstitutionally and illegally denying Obama his nomination, something that had never been done before, the Republican thugs changed the filibuster rule unilaterally, and stole the Supreme Court seat, installing an extreme-right ideologue.
To anyone who did not vote for Hillary because they wanted Sanders or Stein, FUCK YOU. You did this.
To anyone who did not vote because "my vote doesn't count" or "I don't vote" or "I don't care about politics", FUCK YOU. You did this.
To anyone who voted for Tmurp, FUCK YOU AND DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH NOW.
I understand the frustration, but the whole dying thing might be a tad too much.
Trump voters might've had an excuse on election day - Trump did promise to bring back jobs, scrap TPP, not get involved in foreign wars, protect the border, etc. There's a certain segment of the population that eats that stuff up and for understandable reasons.
He also floated installing a Scalia clone on the Supreme Court, emphatically supported committing torture, murdering civilians intentionally, and stealing another country's natural resources as war spoils. And last but not least, his energy policy can be accurately summed up as Drill, Baby, Drill. So yeah, anyone paying attention probably should've picked someone else.
But now that we've seen what he's been up to a President, Trump voters have absolutely no excuse. Even the GOP can do better than this walking disaster.
Well, given people are predicting with this Syrian attack trump just killed any chance of a second term, that gives your democrats a couple of years to find someone who can outplay the republicans, and get a new democrat in the supreme court.
So, chop chop, go find your next Bernie
Quote from: Munch on April 08, 2017, 04:57:11 AM
Well, given people are predicting with this Syrian attack trump just killed any chance of a second term, that gives your democrats a couple of years to find someone who can outplay the republicans, and get a new democrat in the supreme court.
So, chop chop, go find your next Bernie
MIC says ... no candidate, except those we can control, to enact PNAC of 1995 (conquer ME for Israel and oil). Bernie already bent over for Hillary, I am sure she can do it for the MIC too ... us Jewish folks are flexians. If you want Gandhi, get in your time machine, and go vote in India in before 1948.
Quote from: Munch on April 08, 2017, 04:57:11 AMWell, given people are predicting with this Syrian attack trump just killed any chance of a second term, that gives your democrats a couple of years to find someone who can outplay the republicans, and get a new democrat in the supreme court.
So, chop chop, go find your next Bernie
Unfortunately, the Dems don't seem to have a very good field of contenders. I've been mulling the next candidate and the lists I sort through have either people who have already run and lost (Clinton, Kaine, Sanders), almost complete unknowns on a national level (has anyone heard of Amy Klobuchar?), or implausible candidates like Oprah, Kanye West (a joke?), and Michelle Obama.
I suppose there's Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, or Al Franken.
Is it too late to just go back in time and abduct Lincoln or FDR? With time travel, there's no such thing as too late.
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 08, 2017, 10:32:33 AM
Unfortunately, the Dems don't seem to have a very good field of contenders. I've been mulling the next candidate and the lists I sort through have either people who have already run and lost (Clinton, Kaine, Sanders), almost complete unknowns on a national level (has anyone heard of Amy Klobuchar?), or implausible candidates like Oprah, Kanye West (a joke?), and Michelle Obama.
I suppose there's Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, or Al Franken.
Is it too late to just go back in time and abduct Lincoln or FDR? With time travel, there's no such thing as too late.
I like Al Franken. He can always build a zombie VP in his laboratory, with lightning!
Totally ignore Tulsi Gabbard ... because she isn't a cyborg from McCain-ville nor a member of the Clinton/Obama cabal. She is a Democrat ... and totally supportable person because she opposes our entire ME policy. Warren and Sanders have sucked Hillary's cock. Biden is a Ukrainian fascist supporter. Michelle has the hots for George W ... and an Obama. Monarchy isn't American. Kaine didn't help Hillary's ticket much. Oprah would be the Black female version of Trump ... which I could consider voting for more than Trump (who is no gentleman) ... if she acts like a lady. But Tulsi is Army National Guard ... so since people here prefer people who have never served their country ... that would be a no-no.
You could always try the Athenian method ... choose office holders at random from the list of citizens. No need of popularity contests. They did elect their generals, but that didn't turn out so well anyway.
Quote from: Baruch on January 25, 2017, 07:06:06 AM
Medicine costs money. Any money you give to an insurance company (ambulance chaser) up front, is money you don't have for medical care. People are ... idiots (not you personally). Life insurance works, sort of. Health insurance is a mathematical rip off by crooks. Sorry if you get sick, but show up at the emergency room or doctors office with a suitcase of money, or go die somewhere.
Of course this cost is all shifted, and others shafted ... if the US rips off the rest of the world thru dollar manipulation ... or if we simply print unlimited money (electronically please, don't kill all the trees). For some of you, if you don't realize it yet, Zimbabwe and Venezuela are your Sangri-las. I would have a sangria now ... if it wasn't time to go to work ;-(
I know what medical care costs, my mother is in a nursing home. Neither Germany nor the tax payer nor the Federal Reserve is paying for it. But of course in socialist land, someone is paying for it in other countries ... who? Where does the money come from? I am talking to you, Canada ;-)
Tax money. Basic health care provided by the government, private care as a alternative or substitute. It works in every other developed country. It's not perfect, nothing man made is, but I don't have to worry about cost when I get sick and need care. And that should be a right for all citizens.
On a per capita spending, the US system costs about double, sometimes triple, compared to other countries. And that with dismal results. The same principle holds with the prison system. Since so much of it is for profit, the US has also the highest incarceration rate per capita of the free world. Even the dimmest bulb has to see the connection here. Unfortunately the Insurance industry and big Pharma have so much power, that the most reasonable and logical solution is discarded by politicians. Bernie Sanders got it right, but not enough are listening.
You live in a free country, Reasonist. I don't. I have to pay for my medicine. That is why we are sending all the Mexicans north, for the free medical care.
Quote from: Atheon on April 07, 2017, 08:42:30 PM
Democracy is truly dead. The Republican totalitarians just stole the Supreme Court. After unconstitutionally and illegally denying Obama his nomination, something that had never been done before, the Republican thugs changed the filibuster rule unilaterally, and stole the Supreme Court seat, installing an extreme-right ideologue.
To anyone who did not vote for Hillary because they wanted Sanders or Stein, FUCK YOU. You did this.
To anyone who did not vote because "my vote doesn't count" or "I don't vote" or "I don't care about politics", FUCK YOU. You did this.
To anyone who voted for Tmurp, FUCK YOU AND DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH NOW.
The McConnell refusal to even allow the Garland nomination is the saddest event in Supreme Court history. Deserving an equal refusal in return. But that didn't happen. So Gorsuch we have for decades. I will not forget or forgive this.
Quote from: Cavebear on April 12, 2017, 03:48:20 AM
The McConnell refusal to even allow the Garland nomination is the saddest event in Supreme Court history. Deserving an equal refusal in return. But that didn't happen. So Gorsuch we have for decades. I will not forget or forgive this.
D = R = assholes ... why the surprise? It is kabuki, except when most of them agree, have a quick vote, in the middle of the night, that the MSM fails to cover.
I would stop all SCOTUS nominations until all of them die off, and we have zero SCOTUS. Revenge for the 2000 election intervention.
Quote from: Atheon on January 25, 2017, 07:42:42 AM
Sure, medical care costs money, but 1) the costs themselves are hyperinflated in the US (I can pay out of pocket for medical treatment in Taiwan for far less than insurance-covered healthcare in the US), and 2) most industrialized countries have universal healthcare, and it actually works well.
It's basically insurance: everyone pools money together, and when you need it, you are covered. Risk is spread.
And a healthy society is a productive society.
As for where much of the money comes from, the fairest way in my opinion is to tax the fuck out of the super rich, who can afford it. The economy is always invigorated when the rich get taxed heavily.
The irony to me is that the USA is actually better suited to adopt universal health care then most countries that have it already.
Quote from: Cocoa Beware on April 13, 2017, 06:05:06 PM
The irony to me is that the USA is actually better suited to adopt universal health care then most countries that have it already.
Disagree. The US is uniquely against it for reasons that make little sense. As long as it is a business vs help-the-poor issue, Republicans will fight it. When it finally becomes an economic calculation (and it is) Republicans will support it.
We won't have universal healthcare as long as there is this gang of depraved thugs called the Republican Party. Solution: kick out all of them Republican motherfuckers. Pieces of shit.
Why do we have universal healthcare in Taiwan? Why do we have no guns in Taiwan? We have no Republicans.
Someone get these madmen out of the White House. They apparently have no comprehension that they are about to cause World War III. Or maybe they do, and can't comprehend the implications.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/north-korea-donald-trump-mike-pence-strategic-patience-over-military-action-hint-latest-a7687641.html
If you voted for Trump, FUCK YOU.
Quote from: Cavebear on April 17, 2017, 02:38:15 AM
Disagree. The US is uniquely against it for reasons that make little sense. As long as it is a business vs help-the-poor issue, Republicans will fight it. When it finally becomes an economic calculation (and it is) Republicans will support it.
True enough. Health care should not be a for profit business. How can you take proper care for the sick if your main concern is the bottom line and share holders? What a conflict of interest! Unfortunately the lobby groups are way too powerful to change that and no politician, except Bernie, has the guts to say so. Logic dictates that the US should adapt to what works for every other developed nation, but money talks (or prevents).
Kentucky legislature quietly approves resolutions to date all documents ‘in the Year of Our Lord’
(https://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/kentucky-legislature-quietly-approves-resolutions-to-date-all-documents-in-the-year-of-our-lord/)
QuoteAccording to the Lexington Herald-Leader, both chambers “quietly†passed the resolutions on the final day of the year’s legislative session.
Republican state Sen. Albert Robinson, sponsor of the measure, said that he was “trying anywhere and everywhere I can to respect our creator.â€
This isn't that big of a deal in comparison to citizens dying from poor access to healthcare, gutting environmental laws/organizations, and pursuing a reckless neocon foreign policy. But trying (and largely succeeding) to smear Gawd on everything they can get their hands on shows us exactly where Republican loyalties priorities truly lie. It's not with the secular Republic, it's with their imagined Christian Nation.
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 17, 2017, 05:44:39 PM
Kentucky legislature quietly approves resolutions to date all documents ‘in the Year of Our Lord’
(https://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/kentucky-legislature-quietly-approves-resolutions-to-date-all-documents-in-the-year-of-our-lord/)This isn't that big of a deal in comparison to citizens dying from poor access to healthcare, gutting environmental laws/organizations, and pursuing a reckless neocon foreign policy. But trying (and largely succeeding) to smear Gawd on everything they can get their hands on shows us exactly where Republican loyalties priorities truly lie. It's not with the secular Republic, it's with their imagined Christian Nation.
Anti-semitic ... Jews use the Hebrew dating system and refer to the Christian system as BCE/CE not BC/AD. And Muslims use yet another system. If the pagan Europeans were consistent, they would use rune markings or ogham.
Quote from: Baruch on April 17, 2017, 10:30:01 PMIf the pagan Europeans were consistent, they would use rune markings or ogham.
Runes? Pssh. A truly universal calendar would go back to the Holocene. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_calendar
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 17, 2017, 10:49:10 PM
Runes? Pssh. A truly universal calendar would go back to the Holocene. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_calendar
Yes, they had really good ho-s back then ;-)
Yet another Republican doing what Republicans do.
"GOP Senator Ralph Shortey Hit With Child Prostitution Charges"
http://alternativemediasyndicate.com/2017/03/24/gop-senator-ralph-shortey-hit-child-prostitution-charges/
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 17, 2017, 05:44:39 PM
trying (and largely succeeding) to smear Gawd on everything they can get their hands on
They let the cat outa da bag today. Trump aint really that good a Christian, but somebody told him he could get some votes by talking like he was. Made some dumb mistakes, and the church he goes to says something about your wealth proves how much faith you have
Quote from: Atheon on April 18, 2017, 07:57:18 AM
Yet another Republican doing what Republicans do.
"GOP Senator Ralph Shortey Hit With Child Prostitution Charges"
http://alternativemediasyndicate.com/2017/03/24/gop-senator-ralph-shortey-hit-child-prostitution-charges/
Recent report of coverups in the State Dept under Hillary. Our ambassador to Belgium, who was a big fund raiser for the Obama election ... was caught doing sex traffic with both adults and children in Belgium. The State Dept covered it up (see Watergate). They punished the whistleblower, and gave the ambassador a slap on the wrist. They even had the CIA/FBI break into the lawyer's office working for the State Dept whistleblower.
I read media similar to what you read, but they say that Democrats are Reptilians. The Internets always tell the truth.
President Trump funnels re-election funds to Trump businesses (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/328955-nearly-500k-in-campaign-funds-has-gone-to-trump-owned-entities)
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 20, 2017, 10:09:31 AM
President Trump funnels re-election funds to Trump businesses (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/328955-nearly-500k-in-campaign-funds-has-gone-to-trump-owned-entities)
QuoteThe Wall Street Journal reported Saturday.
Must be the easiest job journalism.
Get in to work in the morning, read the papers and pick an article you like, quote it for your editor, job done.
Hey, it must be true, read it in the WSJ.
Lunch, then get ready for home.
Wait till you hear about AP/Reuters.
Trump: "Korea actually used to be a part of China"
Koreans: ?! (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/04/19/trumps-claim-that-korea-actually-used-to-be-a-part-of-china/)
Maybe this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Yuan_rule) was what he's referring to, but of course that predates the Republic of Korea.
Either way, it's a pretty dubious statement from what I assume is the world's foremost expert on Korean history (among other self-awarded titles) and definitely not very good PR.
QuoteTrump’s description echoes a Chinese nationalist version and ignores the competing interpretations of the relations among Korea, China and Japan.
There's a theory floating around that Trump just echos whoever spoke to him last. Considering that the last person to speak to him was the President of China, this seems to lend credence to this theory.
I would certainly give North Korea to China, but it doesn't belong to me, and the Chinese don't want it. A prior Chinese invasion of N Korea, ended the Sui dynasty. Not all invasions work according to plan. The similar early invasion of S Korea by Japan, was also a disaster, for the Japanese.
Quote from: pr126 on April 20, 2017, 11:02:31 AM
Must be the easiest job journalism.
Get in to work in the morning, read the papers and pick an article you like, quote it for your editor, job done.
Hey, it must be true, read it in the WSJ.
Lunch, then get ready for home.
Wait until the Republicans deport all the Democrats to N Korea .. where they will be better appreciated. Deportation isn't just for Latin Americans ;-)
Republicans seek to support themselves. Democrats tend to support others.
By all logic, I should be a Republican. My parents were, my financial status suggests I should be, my career encouraged it. But somehow I still am not. I guess I prefer an open neighborhood to a gated one.
Quote from: Cavebear on April 21, 2017, 04:56:55 AM
Republicans seek to support themselves. Democrats tend to support others.
By all logic, I should be a Republican. My parents were, my financial status suggests I should be, my career encouraged it. But somehow I still am not. I guess I prefer an open neighborhood to a gated one.
I am pro-business (legit business) so I should be a Republican, since they are pro-business. The Democrats are sans-cullote. But Watergate was a deal breaker. I couldn't follow either parent, and liberal Democrats (not Wallace) seemed the way forward. But over time they aren't so liberal anymore ... right back to the 1960s we are.
yup hydra they were all part of china at one time. Japan long ago like maybe 500 years. Korea got its independence around the time of the American revolution(or was it Vietnam?) and Vietnam(or was it Korea?) got its indepence around the time of the Civil War...
dont quote me I dont remember the dates.
These days the Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese all hate each other, but they all hate Vietnamese more..... no reason to try to figure it out if Trump gets to do his thing. Be some rearrangin of the furniture by that yooge big league guy
Quote from: fencerider on April 21, 2017, 11:37:14 PM
yup hydra they were all part of china at one time. Japan long ago like maybe 500 years. Korea got its independence around the time of the American revolution(or was it Vietnam?) and Vietnam(or was it Korea?) got its indepence around the time of the Civil War...
dont quote me I dont remember the dates.
These days the Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese all hate each other, but they all hate Vietnamese more..... no reason to try to figure it out if Trump gets to do his thing. Be some rearrangin of the furniture by that yooge big league guy
Westerners like to claim "they all look alike" but it isn't so. The Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and Vietnamese were all influenced by Chinese civilization, but they don't look alike or think alike. China is a big country with many minorities, and a lot of racism. Korea is divided in two. Japan is divided by ageism. Vietnam is doing relatively well, because they are getting outsourcing from China.
Korea was briefly conquered by the Chinese, but has never functionally been part of China. Mostly because China has never really wanted outsiders as part of the "Middle Kingdom".
Quote from: Cavebear on April 24, 2017, 06:13:16 AM
Korea was briefly conquered by the Chinese, but has never functionally been part of China. Mostly because China has never really wanted outsiders as part of the "Middle Kingdom".
Yes. Chinese policy has been and remains ... don't allow anyone else in Korea, because that is a vector for invading China. Hence we can't allow Spain to keep Florida. China always wants to control Korea, not occupy it. Truman screwed that up, by dividing Korea ... because Korea could be used to invade Japan.
Quote from: fencerider on April 21, 2017, 11:37:14 PM
Be some rearrangin of the furniture by that yooge big league guy
Just a bit of global feng shui, huh? Sounds like fun...
Quote from: Unbeliever on April 25, 2017, 05:55:18 PM
Just a bit of global feng shui, huh? Sounds like fun...
China - "Get your round eyes off my feng shui!"
Quote from: Cavebear on April 24, 2017, 06:13:16 AM
Korea was briefly conquered by the Chinese, but has never functionally been part of China. Mostly because China has never really wanted outsiders as part of the "Middle Kingdom".
That doesn't explain China's expansion into East Turkestan (modern Xinjiang Province) and Tibet during the Qing Dynasty.
Part of North Korea's siege mentality stems from the fact that it's surrounded by powers with an imperialistic history: China, Russia and Japan (and the US by proxy through the South).
Quote from: Atheon on April 26, 2017, 12:29:26 AM
That doesn't explain China's expansion into East Turkestan (modern Xinjiang Province) and Tibet during the Qing Dynasty.
Part of North Korea's siege mentality stems from the fact that it's surrounded by powers with an imperialistic history: China, Russia and Japan (and the US by proxy through the South).
Korea certainly has reason to be hostile to foreigners. Xinjiang is part of China off and on since the Tang dynasty, not just the Qing. China has always been more vulnerable from the West or North, than from the East or South.
I think Kim grew up hearing tall tales from his papa and grandfather. I don't think he has actually seen the U.S. military in action. He's got some grandios ideas in his head that kicking some U.S. butt is a piece of cake. If he didnt have a couple nuclear bombs layin around would anyone listen to his brand of B.S.?
Quote from: fencerider on April 28, 2017, 01:31:10 AM
I think Kim grew up hearing tall tales from his papa and grandfather. I don't think he has actually seen the U.S. military in action. He's got some grandios ideas in his head that kicking some U.S. butt is a piece of cake. If he didnt have a couple nuclear bombs layin around would anyone listen to his brand of B.S.?
He is likely going to end up with a sword up his ass, like the Ass in Libya. I have to struggle to have sympathy for evil dictators. The primary losers in Korea would be Koreans, both N and S, same as always. Also Japan would become a nuclear power on its own, and that isn't good for China.
There are many possible interpretations of Kim's world view. He might think N Korea is a major power, based on his dad's claims. He might think the other powers in the world are about equal to his. He might think the rest of the world lives like N Korea. He might think that possessing a few nuclear weapons makes him equal to all other nations. He might think that China will support N Korea forever. He might think western Asia is the totality of the world.
You can't be sure what crazy people think.
Personally, I love seeing the N Korean military goose-stepping in parades all the time. If there was a war, their knees will be all shot to hell.
Here's an idea... Let's drop Ex-lax-infused food all over N Korea, marked in Korean as "From Glorious Father Kim", to be taken daily.
Quote from: Baruch on April 20, 2017, 06:43:32 AM
Recent report of coverups in the State Dept under Hillary. Our ambassador to Belgium, who was a big fund raiser for the Obama election ... was caught doing sex traffic with both adults and children in Belgium. The State Dept covered it up (see Watergate). They punished the whistleblower, and gave the ambassador a slap on the wrist. They even had the CIA/FBI break into the lawyer's office working for the State Dept whistleblower.
I read media similar to what you read, but they say that Democrats are Reptilians. The Internets always tell the truth.
Look at what you're arguing about. You're essentially saying that one side's kiddy fiddling isn't as bad as the other sides kiddy fiddling.
Here's another way of looking at it. All paedophilia is wrong. Anyone trying to justify it is part of the problem.
Quote from: Jason78 on April 30, 2017, 07:18:55 AM
Look at what you're arguing about. You're essentially saying that one side's kiddy fiddling isn't as bad as the other sides kiddy fiddling.
Here's another way of looking at it. All paedophilia is wrong. Anyone trying to justify it is part of the problem.
I agree. But this is a D party website, same as Faceplant ;-) Don't be shocked, a year ago we had a pro-paedophilia chain going here (question about legal age vs non-legal age ... and how chibi is irresistible).
We're closer to WWIII than at any time in my life.
Trump enablers: FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/north-korea-us-kim-jong-un-donald-trump-could-start-world-war-iii-a7710191.html?cmpid=facebook-post
Quote from: Atheon on April 30, 2017, 03:24:59 PM
We're closer to WWIII than at any time in my life.
Trump enablers: FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/north-korea-us-kim-jong-un-donald-trump-could-start-world-war-iii-a7710191.html?cmpid=facebook-post
You weren't alive earlier ... I have been living with this for 61 years ... a nuclear war started (with armistices) in 1945. I worked on WMD in my earlier career. Learn to love the Bomb? Maybe not. If the rich and powerful want war in 1914, 1939 or today ... they will have it. You and I don't get a vote on that. Human culling may come, though of course it would be tragic, and I have no love of tragedy.
So why do you upset yourself reading this war-porn. Take a short holiday, forget about the things you can't change. You or I will either see tomorrow, or we will not. Trump is a tool of the Deep State, which has been running things a long time now. Hillary would be no different .. only she is more likely to set up an open air slavery market in NorK ... like she did in Libya.
Quote from: Cavebear on April 30, 2017, 06:31:19 AM
There are many possible interpretations of Kim's world view. He might think N Korea is a major power, based on his dad's claims. He might think the other powers in the world are about equal to his. He might think the rest of the world lives like N Korea. He might think that possessing a few nuclear weapons makes him equal to all other nations. He might think that China will support N Korea forever. He might think western Asia is the totality of the world.
You can't be sure what crazy people think.
Personally, I love seeing the N Korean military goose-stepping in parades all the time. If there was a war, their knees will be all shot to hell.
Here's an idea... Let's drop Ex-lax-infused food all over N Korea, marked in Korean as "From Glorious Father Kim", to be taken daily.
let me tell you what i think by basing on some revealition from some writers.
it may seem likee conspiracy but reflects the reality enough.
KIm were is raised by the States and is therefore the man of them. Do you know he have taken his education in overseas, out of n korea.. He is working for the interests of the states in the region. There has been a conflict between Chine and the states ana the states wanna shape the region and on global scale, wanna shape the world.
some things no longer are conspiracy.
And Obama did claim Indonesian citizenship. Power makes murderers of us all, wealth makes us thieves of us all.
Trumpcare was passed by a single vote yesterday, and then went on to say that Australia has a better healthcare system than we do. You know, that universal healthcare Republicans hate so much?
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Quote from: Blackleaf on May 06, 2017, 11:29:23 AM
Trumpcare was passed by a single vote yesterday, and then went on to say that Australia has a better healthcare system than we do. You know, that universal healthcare Republicans hate so much?
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Do you believe anything the MSM writes, or the alt-Media writes, or the claims of any politicians? The best explanation I have seen is ... that the House wanted to make a BS political statement, and give a little acknowledgement to Trump (who they all hate) ... and the Senate will ignore or kill the House bill in favor of their own ... which will never arrive. The Republicans could have killed ACA anytime during their 20+ show-boating votes ... but we know that they all receive campaign contributions from the insurance companies.
Trump of course isn't on point with the other Republicans, he is a one-man-band. And he is good at making random tweets that throw things into confusion (better for the real government in the smoke filled room). ACA has always been Republican ... they only resent that any Democrat (even a Republican hiding as a Democrat like Obama/Clintons) got any political credit for it. For example, in Maryland, for 2018 ... one of the ACA sharks have requested a 50% rate increase, on top of what has happened over the last 4 plus years. The Elite won't be happy, until they have 100% of your income, and 100% of your assets ... because you don't deserve any, you are Deplorable. We are from France. And our leadership are Coneheads!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD-vAWecEus
Vote "Beldar of Remulac" for President of France, this weekend ;-)
Quote from: Baruch on May 06, 2017, 12:59:32 PM
The Elite won't be happy, until they have 100% of your income, and 100% of your assets ... because you don't deserve any, you are Deplorable.
and then what? you think they will be happy after the possess 100% of everything? nope that's when things start to get interesting...
Steel and Ungar says they gonna play pretend good enough to get re-elected in 2018 and then try to fix the problems of Obamacare. They also say that the wall if approved will be tied up in court for so long that Trump's 8 years will be long gone before it gets started (assuming he can get re-elected)
Trump's behavior is so ridiculous that I was willing to take bets that he would get impeached before Christmas, but after seein the behavior of the repos in Congress I think they all fell out of the same Stupid Tree.
Now you can be jailed for laughing at the dear leader and his lieutenants.
Goodbye freedom... it was nice while it lasted.
Hello dictatorship... think happy thoughts.
Woman convicted for laughing at Jeff Sessions
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/03/us/code-pink-sessions-laughter-trial.html?_r=0
Poor trial result. It has been too easy to convict people of disorderly conduct at political rallies and at government official public events. But do you think this wouldn't have happened with President Shrub?
Just goes to show the dictatorial nature of Republicans. That scumbag who shouted "You lie" to Obama was not persecuted by the government for his outburst.
In other news of Republican evil,
"Nobody dies because they don’t have access to health care." - Rep. Raul Labrador (R-ID)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/05/06/nobody-dies-because-they-dont-have-access-to-health-care-gop-lawmaker-says-he-got-booed/?utm_term=.efea1d1a415b
If you're a Republican, this is the kind of awful people you support.
"Nobody dies because they don’t have access to health care." - Rep. Raul Labrador (R-ID)
I was told once by someone who had lived in Indiana ... that they are the stupidest of the Americans.
On the other hand, I see no human right to avoid death. It is a good thing that everyone dies.
Here's my thoughts on what may have made the difference in trump winning the electoral vote. One word. Had his comment getting off that bus with Billy bush was not "grab them by the pussy", but instead was "grab them by the cunt", I seriously think he loses. God folk just detest that word, and there's no second meaning you can conjure up to make it seem less severe. Pussy = nice kitty. Remember, the religious are deluded, it's no stretch for them to be able to self delude. A cunt is just a cunt, can't sugar coat that one.
Quote from: hrdlr110 on May 07, 2017, 07:28:18 AM
Pussy = nice kitty.
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Quote from: SoldierofFortune on April 30, 2017, 09:02:29 PM
let me tell you what i think by basing on some revealition from some writers.
it may seem likee conspiracy but reflects the reality enough.
KIm were is raised by the States and is therefore the man of them. Do you know he have taken his education in overseas, out of n korea.. He is working for the interests of the states in the region. There has been a conflict between Chine and the states ana the states wanna shape the region and on global scale, wanna shape the world.
some things no longer are conspiracy.
Kim Jong-un is probably one of the most insane people on the entire planet. He is a sad little man, desperate for recognition and deserving none. His cruelty to his own people is beyond measure. Hitler would gag reading of Kim's actions.
If Kim died and was eaten by a cow, and the cow pooped, I would not use the manure to fertilize my garden for concern of contamination.
And even then, I am only being polite...
Quote from: Cavebear on May 09, 2017, 04:29:44 AM
If Kim died and was eaten by a cow, and the cow pooped, I would not use the manure to fertilize my garden for concern of contamination
Thats what an incinerator is for.... not to mention only a rabid cow would eat meat. and only a crazy rabid cow would choose to eat Kimchi. Time to throw them all in the incinerator
Quote from: fencerider on May 11, 2017, 12:06:56 AM
Thats what an incinerator is for.... not to mention only a rabid cow would eat meat. and only a crazy rabid cow would choose to eat Kimchi. Time to throw them all in the incinerator
I like kimchi, though only the tame American kind (it means pickled whatever ... what we see is pickled cabbage). This is why we can't have nice things ... the US is a false god, judges everyone, invades everyone to put down bad people, bad governments. Have you ever heard of ... Vietnam?
Sometimes, one can only hope for a fatal disease afflicting truly insane megalomaniac psychopaths... Although a well aimed drone is acceptable. Some people just do NOT deserve to live.