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Title: The Walking Dead
Post by: wolf39us on February 17, 2013, 08:11:10 PM
I can't be the only one who absolutely loves this fricken show.  Seriously so many things I didn't see coming...  I've never actually read the comic, but holy fuck!

Any of you that haven't seen any episodes, it's a must watch! :-)
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Post by: Brian37 on February 17, 2013, 08:19:07 PM
Yes. X-files showed me the gullibility of our species. Now while you might not take it seriously, far too many fuckwads who are fellow fans do. So as far as I am concerned the fewer fans the better.
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Post by: The Dude on February 17, 2013, 08:22:09 PM
I've never seen it. Once I finish House (I still have about 120 episodes to go in House, though!) I think I'll start watching Walking Dead.
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Post by: _Xenu_ on February 17, 2013, 08:22:11 PM
I watch the WD, but think American Horror Story: Asylum was better.

(Run for cover)
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Post by: NeoLogic26 on February 17, 2013, 11:20:10 PM
Tonight's episode was sick.

[spoil:1xd85dsw]Daryl is the fucking man! His walker kill with the hatchback got me out of my chair.[/spoil:1xd85dsw]
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Post by: wolf39us on February 17, 2013, 11:50:11 PM
Dude spoiler alert bro!  I haven't seen it yet
Title: Re: The Walking Dead
Post by: Hydra009 on February 18, 2013, 12:34:21 AM
Quote from: "wolf39us"I can't be the only one who absolutely loves this fricken show.  Seriously so many things I didn't see coming...  I've never actually read the comic, but holy fuck!
I love it, too.  I started reading the comics during the forum outage.  The overall plot is very similar, but here are plenty of huge differences from the tv show.

I love the whole concept of the ragtag band trying to make it in a hostile world.  Really sympathized with Glenn, Rick, and Shane.  Agreed with Shane most of the time, especially during [spoil:1jb2it39]the barn situation[/spoil:1jb2it39]

Pragmatism, not idealism, is the way to go.  I definitely would not tolerate infected members with the group (//http://www.cracked.com/video_18166_dealing-with-guy-whos-clearly-hiding-zombie-bite.html).

[spoil:1jb2it39]I actually like the Governor's little town, but blood sports and attacking other survivors without provocation is a bit of a deal-breaker.  However, under a different leadership, it would be an ideal place to live.  Electricity, medical personnel/supplies, food, security, etc.  Very livable.[/spoil:1jb2it39]
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Post by: LoneQuietus on February 18, 2013, 12:44:59 AM
I'm a big fan of the show. I watch it online every Monday after new episodes air.
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Post by: SvZurich on February 18, 2013, 01:17:00 PM
Pick up the comic.  You won't regret it.  

I purchased both of the Compendiums on Amazon (Issues 1-48 and 49-96) which cover the first 8 years of the comic.  Then I picked up the next smaller compilation (97-102) for the 6th month catchup, and have been collecting the individual issues through Comixology.  I tend to have a 1 month lag as Comixology drops the price of the current issue as soon as the next issue comes out.

The show can't hope to compare with the comic!  Holy shit it is wrong on so many levels, and GOOD!  

Carl ain't some screwup, he's the ultimate badass!  :D
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Post by: _Xenu_ on February 18, 2013, 02:32:37 PM
Would this be an appropriate place to plug World War Z? Oh well, I just did.
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Post by: BarkAtTheMoon on February 19, 2013, 11:31:12 AM
Quote from: "SvZurich"Carl ain't some screwup, he's the ultimate badass!  :D

He's been, while not a screwup like season 1 & 2, still a scared little kid longer in the comics than he has in the show. He grew up big time between season 2 & 3 when they got to the prison. He's still acting like a kid where I'm at in the comics, somewhere around issue 62 or so, which I'm guessing should be without spoiling anything somewhere into mid to late season 4 for the show.
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Post by: _Xenu_ on February 19, 2013, 11:37:21 AM
Quote from: "BarkAtTheMoon"
Quote from: "SvZurich"Carl ain't some screwup, he's the ultimate badass!  :D

He's been, while not a screwup like season 1 & 2, still a scared little kid longer in the comics than he has in the show. He grew up big time between season 2 & 3 when they got to the prison. He's still acting like a kid where I'm at in the comics, somewhere around issue 62 or so, which I'm guessing should be without spoiling anything somewhere into mid to late season 4 for the show.
I think Carl is going to grow up to be alot like Shane, if he lives long enough. That kid is a budding psychopath. Its too bad Rick sent those new people away, they seemed like good folk for the most part. At least the black couple did.
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Post by: BarkAtTheMoon on February 19, 2013, 11:42:18 AM
Quote from: "_Xenu_"
Quote from: "BarkAtTheMoon"
Quote from: "SvZurich"Carl ain't some screwup, he's the ultimate badass!  :D

He's been, while not a screwup like season 1 & 2, still a scared little kid longer in the comics than he has in the show. He grew up big time between season 2 & 3 when they got to the prison. He's still acting like a kid where I'm at in the comics, somewhere around issue 62 or so, which I'm guessing should be without spoiling anything somewhere into mid to late season 4 for the show.
I think Carl is going to grow up to be alot like Shane, if he lives long enough. That kid is a budding psychopath. Its too bad Rick sent those new people away, they seemed like good folk for the most part. At least the black couple did.
I seriously doubt we've seen the last of them. They're pretty major characters in the comics.

And you could be right about Carl, but I don't know that he'll be quite like what Shane was. Shane went straight off the deep end mostly out of jealousy and Laurie fucking with his and Rick's heads, while Carl is growing up where this is the "normal" world and he's becoming the sort of person it takes to survive in it. Another season or so in and I don't think he'll even really remember what it was like pre-walkers.
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Post by: Youssuf Ramadan on February 19, 2013, 11:42:43 AM
I like it.  Andrew Lincoln sounds weird with that American accent though.
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Post by: _Xenu_ on February 19, 2013, 11:45:23 AM
Quote from: "BarkAtTheMoon"I seriously doubt we've seen the last of them. They're pretty major characters in the comics.
Good to hear. Rick needs to quit being so paranoid about letting new people in because he needs numbers now more than ever. Its just foolish to turn down good folk like that. Hell, even Merle should be a welcome addition at this point. He'll bring chaos within the ranks, but he's no weakling and could help fill the muscle void left by Shane's death.
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Post by: wolf39us on February 19, 2013, 11:49:33 AM
Quote from: "Youssuf Ramadan"I like it.  Andrew Lincoln sounds weird with that American accent though.

I think he does a GREAT American accent
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Post by: SvZurich on February 19, 2013, 12:58:31 PM
Quote from: "BarkAtTheMoon"
Quote from: "SvZurich"Carl ain't some screwup, he's the ultimate badass!  :D

He's been, while not a screwup like season 1 & 2, still a scared little kid longer in the comics than he has in the show. He grew up big time between season 2 & 3 when they got to the prison. He's still acting like a kid where I'm at in the comics, somewhere around issue 62 or so, which I'm guessing should be without spoiling anything somewhere into mid to late season 4 for the show.
Carl has some incredibly dark times coming up from where you are in the comics.  Shit Rick would crumble at, in my opinion.  

[spoil:3a1q9e7n]Scared kid or not, he's saved both of his parents are varying points, and still tries to protect his daddy.  In spite of my rule to delaying buying comics on Comixology by a month so the price is lower, I am tempted to buy the current issue now to see if Carl's fate is in it.  Last month, his bravery got him into a very very bad situation.[/spoil:3a1q9e7n]
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Post by: Hydra009 on February 19, 2013, 03:47:55 PM
Quote from: "_Xenu_"Good to hear. Rick needs to quit being so paranoid about letting new people in because he needs numbers now more than ever. Its just foolish to turn down good folk like that. Hell, even Merle should be a welcome addition at this point. He'll bring chaos within the ranks, but he's no weakling and could help fill the muscle void left by Shane's death.
Agreed, but Rick has understandable trust issues and he's crazier than a one-legged avocado right now.  (and a living testament to the idea that a single charismatic leader - a benevolent dictatorship in Rick's case - is a untenable form of government.  Power should be delegated to multiple people to prevent exactly that sort of leaderless dysfunction)

Merle may be a psychopath, but he's a damn good fighter in a world where you need every fighter you can get.  Just keep him on a short leash and have him working on something he loves doing (apparently, bashing heads) and he's fine.  Just don't leave him to his own devices.

Good leaders get people who might otherwise be at odds - like Merle and everybody else - working towards a common goal.  Bad leaders do crap like this:

[spoil:6st90k6b](//http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/8/82536/2229430-wd_211_1.png)
We brought you back to our safehouse.  Now we're going to kill you because you know where our safehouse is.  Hurr Durrrrr.[/spoil:6st90k6b]

Btw, am I the only guy here who friggin' loves Maggie?

(//http://backwoodshorror.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/the-walking-dead-exclusive-3_81011.jpeg)

*swoons*
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Post by: Icarus on February 19, 2013, 03:52:49 PM
A meme I saw summed up why I stopped watching the show, "Constant arguing with zombies sometimes (maybe)".
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Post by: Hydra009 on February 19, 2013, 04:04:31 PM
Quote from: "Icarus"A meme I saw summed up why I stopped watching the show, "Constant arguing with zombies sometimes (maybe)".
It's the standard drama formula.  BSG was pretty much drinking, arguing, and gunfights (maybe).  Game of Thrones is drinking, sex, and murder (maybe).  Didn't stop any of these shows from becoming wildly successful.

The serial format and halfway-relatable characters makes for a welcome respite from the timeworn cop dramas and reality tv cesspool.
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Post by: Icarus on February 19, 2013, 04:18:31 PM
Quote from: "Hydra009"
Quote from: "Icarus"A meme I saw summed up why I stopped watching the show, "Constant arguing with zombies sometimes (maybe)".
It's the standard drama formula.  BSG was pretty much drinking, arguing, and gunfights (maybe).  Game of Thrones is drinking, sex, and murder (maybe).  Didn't stop any of these shows from becoming wildly successful.

The serial format and halfway-relatable characters makes for a welcome respite from the timeworn cop dramas and reality tv cesspool.

Game of Thrones has plot, walking dead is very repetitive. Get to safe place, find some cool people, relax for a short period, something happens, safe place no longer safe, go to next safe place, repeat.
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Post by: Hydra009 on February 19, 2013, 04:41:09 PM
Well, yanno, it is a zombie show.  It's going to focus on zombies and day-to-day survival.  If you're looking for a beach episode, you're not going to find one.  Sure, some of the stuff is predictable, but other times...not so much.  I dunno how far you got into it, but there are some pretty big doozies up ahead.

TWD is actually pretty interesting is that it really delves into the emotional toll of living like that for an extended period of time.  Makes me want to tune in just to see who will keep their humanity (not to mention their lives) and who'll give up or give in.
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Post by: stromboli on February 19, 2013, 05:02:07 PM
Quote from: "_Xenu_"I watch the WD, but think American Horror Story: Asylum was better.

(Run for cover)

This. Way better and KINKY.  :o
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Post by: SvZurich on February 19, 2013, 05:12:38 PM
Quote from: "Icarus"
Quote from: "Hydra009"
Quote from: "Icarus"A meme I saw summed up why I stopped watching the show, "Constant arguing with zombies sometimes (maybe)".
It's the standard drama formula.  BSG was pretty much drinking, arguing, and gunfights (maybe).  Game of Thrones is drinking, sex, and murder (maybe).  Didn't stop any of these shows from becoming wildly successful.

The serial format and halfway-relatable characters makes for a welcome respite from the timeworn cop dramas and reality tv cesspool.

Game of Thrones has plot, walking dead is very repetitive. Get to safe place, find some cool people, relax for a short period, something happens, safe place no longer safe, go to next safe place, repeat.
TWD Comic has more depth than just that.

[spoil:1ki8um2y]Has the show even touched on Herds?  Cannibal hunters?  A relatively safe community in the suburbs of DC?  Bandits wanting to molest Carl?  Human communities under siege from other humans?  DEEP!!![/spoil:1ki8um2y]
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Post by: _Xenu_ on February 19, 2013, 05:46:15 PM
Quote from: "stromboli"
Quote from: "_Xenu_"I watch the WD, but think American Horror Story: Asylum was better.

(Run for cover)

This. Way better and KINKY.  :o
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Post by: BarkAtTheMoon on February 19, 2013, 05:52:40 PM
Quote from: "svZurich"TWD Comic has more depth than just that.
I'm really curious to see how dark they go with the show.

Comic spoilers:
[spoil:3xu7cwdo]Just the showdown at the prison and its aftermath. That would wipe out half the cast. The baby?Rick and Carl out on their own with Rick melting down.[/spoil:3xu7cwdo]

Quote from: "Hydra009"Btw, am I the only guy here who friggin' loves Maggie?
Oh, and no, you're not.
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Post by: Youssuf Ramadan on February 21, 2013, 04:06:09 PM
Quote from: "wolf39us"
Quote from: "Youssuf Ramadan"I like it.  Andrew Lincoln sounds weird with that American accent though.

I think he does a GREAT American accent

He does indeed do it well.  It just sounds peculiar having only previously heard him speak with an English accent.
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Post by: wolf39us on February 21, 2013, 07:06:49 PM
I looked up one of his interviews and think his real accent sounds funny lol.  

Same thing happened to me when I found out Hugh Laurie was English as well
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Post by: SvZurich on February 21, 2013, 07:46:46 PM
I loved Hugh Laurie on Blackadder!  :D