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Title: Hello
Post by: Bob on January 11, 2017, 03:55:43 PM
Hello.

I am Bob.


Could someone please define exactly what is meant by "EVIDENCE" for the existence of God?


Thanks.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Unbeliever on January 11, 2017, 03:57:15 PM
Hi - are you Bob?
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Hakurei Reimu on January 11, 2017, 04:27:25 PM
Don't Bob around the issue now.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: PopeyesPappy on January 11, 2017, 04:59:41 PM
Sorry Bob. Sock puppets aren't allowed.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Mr.Obvious on January 11, 2017, 05:15:19 PM
I know he's not around anymore, but, to answer the question: I don't know. I never came across any. I couldn't even fathom what it would be.
What do you think qualifies as evidence, if you think you have any? That's a better question.
If you have it and the logic holds up; you'll have evidence and we'll probably have a change of heart. If you don't or if it doesn't, you'll get told why; making it not evidence for what you claim it to be.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Mike Cl on January 11, 2017, 06:03:58 PM
Hi Bob--are you that armless legless man in a swimming pool they are talking about????
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Baruch on January 11, 2017, 07:33:41 PM
Are your pants really square?

Evidence = if it allows for the existence of anything atheists disapprove of, then the evidence is questionable. Usually on the basis that it is subjective.  However objective evidence for whatever, is not as strong as people might think, but then that requires philosophy to evaluate, which atheists also denounce as secularized theology ;-)
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Hakurei Reimu on January 11, 2017, 10:38:51 PM
God is an extremely extraordinary claim beyond anything we know. Of course a lot of very good evidence for his existence is going to be necessary to convince us.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Journey_To_Mars on January 11, 2017, 11:44:24 PM
Quote from: Bob on January 11, 2017, 03:55:43 PM
Hello.

I am Bob.


Could someone please define exactly what is meant by "EVIDENCE" for the existence of God?


Thanks.

If the god can touch me sexually, that's evidence enough for me.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Baruch on January 12, 2017, 07:05:44 AM
Quote from: Journey_To_Mars on January 11, 2017, 11:44:24 PM
If the god can touch me sexually, that's evidence enough for me.

O I considered my wife to be a goddess ... until she kicked me out.  Does that count?
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: PopeyesPappy on January 12, 2017, 07:24:52 AM
Quote from: Baruch on January 11, 2017, 07:33:41 PM
Are your pants really square?

Evidence = if it allows for the existence of anything atheists disapprove of, then the evidence is questionable. Usually on the basis that it is subjective.  However objective evidence for whatever, is not as strong as people might think, but then that requires philosophy to evaluate, which atheists also denounce as secularized theology ;-)

No again, Baruch. The fact that we reject the premise of god as the uncaused cause doesn't mean we have no use for logic or reject philosophy in its entirety. 
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Baruch on January 12, 2017, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 12, 2017, 07:24:52 AM
No again, Baruch. The fact that we reject the premise of god as the uncaused cause doesn't mean we have no use for logic or reject philosophy in its entirety.

Neither do the other ideologues.  I only protest when ideologues claim to have the one true ideology ;-)
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Hakurei Reimu on January 12, 2017, 01:43:11 PM
You quite clearly do more than simply "protest when ideologues claim to have the one true ideology" Winky face.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Unbeliever on January 12, 2017, 04:35:38 PM
Quote from: Baruch on January 12, 2017, 07:05:44 AM
Does that count?

Maybe, if you delete the o...
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Journey_To_Mars on January 16, 2017, 11:51:23 PM
Quote from: Baruch on January 12, 2017, 07:05:44 AM
O I considered my wife to be a goddess ... until she kicked me out.  Does that count?

I'm sorry, human beings don't count.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Baruch on January 17, 2017, 05:33:10 PM
Quote from: Journey_To_Mars on January 16, 2017, 11:51:23 PM
I'm sorry, human beings don't count.

Lazarus and anti-Lazarus from old Star Trek episode.  Meet you in the gap between the universe and anti-universe ;-)
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Mike Cl on January 17, 2017, 07:55:03 PM
Quote from: Baruch on January 17, 2017, 05:33:10 PM
Lazarus and anti-Lazarus from old Star Trek episode.  Meet you in the gap between the universe and anti-universe ;-)
If you were to meet Lazarus Long in a Heinlein book you may consider him god-like.
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Journey_To_Mars on January 17, 2017, 08:09:34 PM
Quote from: Baruch on January 17, 2017, 05:33:10 PM
Lazarus and anti-Lazarus from old Star Trek episode.  Meet you in the gap between the universe and anti-universe ;-)

Which episode, I need to watch it to understand this reference
Title: Re: Hello
Post by: Baruch on January 18, 2017, 06:06:48 AM
Quote from: Journey_To_Mars on January 17, 2017, 08:09:34 PM
Which episode, I need to watch it to understand this reference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2724i8pFh0g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MtuUGpHeec

This was based on the theories of the astrophysicist, Dr Alfven and his views on cosmology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfvén ... and plasma cosmology