THE SUN WILL EVENTUALLY EXPIRE
And the Sun runs to its resting place. That is the decree of the Almighty, the All-Knowing. (Surah Ya Sin, 38)
http://isslamea.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-sun-will-eventually-expire-and-sun.html
(http://isslamea.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-sun-will-eventually-expire-and-sun.html)
The Sun has been emitting heat for around 5 billion years as a result of the constant chemical reactions taking place on its surface. At a moment determined by Allah in the future, these reactions will eventually come to an end, and the Sun will lose all its energy and finally go out. In that context, the above verse may be a reference to the Sun's energy one day coming to an end. (Allah knows the truth.)
The Arabic word "limustaqarrin" in the verse refers to a particular place or time. The word "tajree" translated as "runs," bears such
meanings as.... read more at http://isslamea.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-sun-will-eventually-expire-and-sun.html (http://isslamea.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-sun-will-eventually-expire-and-sun.html)
Welcome to the forum. I hope you will stay and post more scientific miracles from the Quran.
I have a Question. Why would Allah create the sun which will eventually expire?
What will happen to the believers when the sun dies?
In which Surah is it taught that rudeness is permissible? Please introduce yourself before posting.
If you read the instruction, you would know that proselytizing aka da'wah isn't allowed on this forum.
Ù,د توÙ,ظ Ø¥Ù,,Ù‰ اÙ,,جنة
Quote from: pr126 on December 27, 2016, 08:03:28 AM
Welcome to the forum. I hope you will stay and post more scientific miracles from the Quran.
I have a Question. Why would Allah create the sun which will eventually expire?
What will happen to the believers when the sun dies?
peace on you friend yes incha allah i will stay
-your first quest Why would Allah create the sun which will eventually expire
allah create sun and will expire becease this allah creted this world "denya" to be an exam to us and we know evry exam have a begning and an end the sun Belong to this denya or to this creature of our world they will expire in the day of kiyama "last day" and sience prove that sun will expire and that world
-2 ed quet
in islam our prophet said that in he last day ther is no muslim in the earth /0 muslim/ and human forget the relegions and all sience will expire
so all bieliver will dies before the last day
-what is your relegion?
Quote from: Baruch on December 27, 2016, 08:10:37 AM
In which Surah is it taught that rudeness is permissible? Please introduce yourself before posting.
If you read the instruction, you would know that proselytizing aka da'wah isn't allowed on this forum.
Ù,د توÙ,ظ Ø¥Ù,,Ù‰ اÙ,,جنة
i m wrting an information about my relegion .... are you horrified ... yes you are because you know that islam is the relegion of true
( وَاÙ,,Ø´ÙŽÙ'Ù...Ù'س٠تَجÙ'رÙÙŠ Ù,,ÙÙ...ÙسÙ'تَÙ,َرÙÙ' Ù,,َهَا )
in surah of yassin 38 or /40-38/ (38) And the sun runs his course for a period determined for him: that is the decree of (Him), the Exalted in Might, the All-Knowing.
hey... speak respectly why that world " rudeness
i m seif from algeria i m muslim
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Hi.
I usually welcome people to our little band of heathens.
In your case, however, I'll just point out you're not supposed to start threads outside of an introduction threads when under 10 posts.
So please do so, and I'll welcome you as a fellow heathen. Don't worry about you being religious, we're all heathens to some.
Quote from: wolf39us on December 27, 2016, 08:54:09 AM
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why .......................
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on December 27, 2016, 09:01:49 AM
Hi.
I usually welcome people to our little band of heathens.
In your case, however, I'll just point out you're not supposed to start threads outside of an introduction threads when under 10 posts.
So please do so, and I'll welcome you as a fellow heathen. Don't worry about you being religious, we're all heathens to some.
thanks i will do the 10 posts
Quote from: wolf39us on December 27, 2016, 08:54:09 AM
i m wrting an information about my relegion .... are you horrified ... yes you are because you know that islam is the relegion of true
Yeah, but why love goats when women are around?
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 27, 2016, 09:08:53 AM
Yeah, but why love goats when women are around?
I didn't write that lol
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 27, 2016, 09:08:53 AM
Yeah, but why love goats when women are around?close our eyes
yes why close our eyes when we see the true
Quote from: islamea on December 27, 2016, 09:14:16 AM
yes why close our eyes when we see the true
Welcome. And excellent question. Why close you eyes to the truth? It seems to me that people like you (theists) who pick out one god to believe in, have closed their eyes to truth, and label that action Truth. You now, like all theists, will not open your eyes to the truth, even when it slaps you upside your head. I call this willful ignorance. And you appear to be very very much willfully ignorant. And you will now demonstrate just how willfully ignorant your are by rolling in it like a pig does in shit. There is no truth to anything you have said yet..........but you will tell me that it is Truth--the one and only Truth. If you please, can you give me one shred of evidence that your god exists?
Quote from: wolf39us on December 27, 2016, 09:09:55 AM
I didn't write that lol
Fucked formatting, I teach it at the college level.
Quote from: islamea on December 27, 2016, 09:07:04 AM
thanks i will do the 10 posts
Doesn't seem like you got the gist of what I was saying.
Quote from: Mike Cl on December 27, 2016, 09:24:15 AM
Welcome. And excellent question. Why close you eyes to the truth? It seems to me that people like you (theists) who pick out one god to believe in, have closed their eyes to truth, and label that action Truth. You now, like all theists, will not open your eyes to the truth, even when it slaps you upside your head. I call this willful ignorance. And you appear to be very very much willfully ignorant. And you will now demonstrate just how willfully ignorant your are by rolling in it like a pig does in shit. There is no truth to anything you have said yet..........but you will tell me that it is Truth--the one and only Truth. If you please, can you give me one shred of evidence that your god exists?
i love atheist like you .. thanks ..for respect
-first do you beilive in Coincidence theory or what if you are... you are the big ignorant and if you are with the Eternal universe sience prove that is impossible ...
so haw we are her give the explanation of our presence and the presence of universe "with sience" ...why man why not outher animal why man intillgent
an Archaeologist said"We found city without restauran...without market but we never found city without temple"
in what you beilive
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on December 27, 2016, 09:37:13 AM
Doesn't seem like you got the gist of what I was saying.
what i will do 10 posts in the outher topics or what
Quote from: islamea on December 27, 2016, 09:47:59 AM
what i will do 10 posts in the outher topics or what
That you should make a proper introduction thread, in the therefore assigned area of the forum.
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on December 27, 2016, 09:51:46 AM
That you should make a proper introduction thread, in the therefore assigned area of the forum.
okk about what about me and my relegion or about atheism
Quote from: islamea on December 27, 2016, 09:58:26 AM
okk about what about me and my relegion or about atheism
About you.
Who you are.
What you believe.
What lead you to believe that.
And what you hope to get from this place.
Islamea ... religion is more than being able to copy/paste translated verses from an old book. The Quran is the chosen Logos of the Arabic people/language. But what do you think of Prophet Ayyūb (Job) ... was Allah responsible or was Iblis? What was the sin of Iblis? What do the Sufis teach about Iblis? Aren't the majority of humans, if not all of them, Munafiqun?
If one even memorizes a verse of the Quran, of what use is that if you don't know Arabic? If you do know Arabic, and you memorize or read a verse of the Quran, of what use is that if you don't understand its meaning? Understanding lies in a righteous heart, not in an hypocritical voice.
Quote from: islamea on December 27, 2016, 09:43:44 AM
i love atheist like you .. thanks ..for respect
-first do you beilive in Coincidence theory or what if you are... you are the big ignorant and if you are with the Eternal universe sience prove that is impossible ...
so haw we are her give the explanation of our presence and the presence of universe "with sience" ...why man why not outher animal why man intillgent
an Archaeologist said"We found city without restauran...without market but we never found city without temple"
in what you beilive
I have no problem respecting a person, no matter what that person believes. (Well, if that person is not dangerous or harms others, that is) But I do NOT respect what your beliefs are. You see, I don't believe in anything---anything--period. I need proof that something is--and then I don't need to believe in it, for it is and I know that it is. Can you give me any evidence that your god exists?? I have seen none from you yet. A temple on every street does not prove anything other than a lot of people are willing to be told what to believe and do so without any proof. At one time, it was common knowledge that the sun revolved around the earth. Because the vast majority of people believed that did not make it so. Temples everywhere is not proof.
I realize that English must be a second language for you. But I must confess I had a hard time following what you were trying to say. What is the Coincidence theory??? And do you even know what a 'theory' is??? I doubt that you do. In science, a theory is something that has been proven to be so--it was tested and found accurate and true. So, if a theory were proven false, it would no longer be a theory.
Are you asking why man is intelligent and not some other animal? What do you mean by 'intelligent'? I find many, many animals are intelligent--and what does that have to do with god?
Quote from: islamea on December 27, 2016, 09:58:26 AM
okk about what about me and my relegion or about atheism
It would show proper respect if you would simply tells us a bit about who you are. Where are you from. Are you a theist (believe in god) or a non theist. A few lines would do. So far it seems to me you are simply another theist who has come here to attack the blind, stupid, foolish atheists. You want to set us straight. You want to 'save' us. How would you react if somebody came into your church/temple and attacked what you thought was right???? Well, that is how I view what you are doing right now.
This should have all the excitement of taking a nap
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Scientific Errors in the Quran (https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran)
The sun won't so much expire as it will explode. Expire implies something much calmer, gradual and peaceful. It will be anything but.
the quran also had something about unicorns flying on rainbows.
Quote from: islamea on December 27, 2016, 07:57:07 AMThe Sun has been emitting heat for around 5 billion years as a result of the constant chemical reactions taking place on its surface. At a moment determined by Allah in the future, these reactions will eventually come to an end, and the Sun will lose all its energy and finally go out. In that context, the above verse may be a reference to the Sun's energy one day coming to an end.
The sun won't entirely go out, at least not any time soon. The sun is expected to transition from a main sequence star to a red giant (bigger and brighter) then to a white dwarf with much less mass. White dwarf stars are remarkably stable and the sun is expected to stay a white dwarf for trillions of years (possibly interrupted by the end of the universe) before eventually becoming a hypothetical black dwarf. Black dwarfs are hypothetical because white dwarfs are so long-lasting that even the oldest white dwarfs haven't become black dwarfs.
TL;DR, a swing and a miss for the sun losing all its energy.
I don't often copy myself, but in this case I will--from Oct. for islaamea-----
A couple of comments--
Us vs Them--All religions are excellent at this. That is the major point for them all--our religion is the best, no, not the best, the only, way of looking at the world. It is inherently 'us vs them'.
Ideology--Most religions go beyond an ideology--they go into your thoughts and are inherently totalitarian in nature. They control the entire person much more deeply than a political ideology. Not even Stalinism or Nazism controled the person as much as the christian or islam religion strives to. Any religion with a rigid or strong hierarchy produces violence. Islam is no exception.
If, as you claim, islam is all about peace, how does Isis get away with all of it's violence? If they are such a tiny part of islam, where is the huge majority of the people of islam holding them in check? If they do not have the support of the muslims, then who supports them? I may be mistaken, but I view the Isis 'problem' as being part of a religious civil war. It really is all about islam vs islam. The US as the "Great Satan" is used as a tool to strengthen one side vs the other.
My thought is that the world would have been better of in all ways without the disease of religion. If I were God for a moment, I would wipe out all religions and not allow any to form. That would not produce utopia, but it would make for a more peaceful world.
Any bets on drive by or not?
Oh joy. Another one of these people.
Equal opportunity butt-stabber.
Quote from: Mike Cl on December 27, 2016, 07:34:13 PM
Any bets on drive by or not?
My question is one a Muslim could answer, if they knew what they were talking about.
Quote from: Baruch on December 28, 2016, 07:34:26 PM
My question is one a Muslim could answer, if they knew what they were talking about.
As I see it, if any religious (pick any religion) person fully understood and answered your question fully, they would cease to be religious.
Quote from: Mike Cl on December 28, 2016, 08:24:55 PM
As I see it, if any religious (pick any religion) person fully understood and answered your question fully, they would cease to be religious.
Yes, the story of Job, present in all three Abrahamic religious families (more than just religions) ... is an interesting challenge to its very integrity. Without meeting that challenge, both abstractly, and in real life ... one simply is a novice. Polytheism doesn't impose overly moral deities on the human imagination ... and are thus both less idealized, but also more reasonable.
Quote from: Baruch on December 28, 2016, 10:22:16 PM
Polytheism doesn't impose overly moral deities on the human imagination ... and are thus both less idealized, but also more reasonable.
Why must we have god or gods? They are all clearly fiction and that means that polytheism is not any more reasonable than any number of god/s. Theism and reason just do not exist together.
The resting place of the sun is from east to west (the sun goes to its resting place in the west), that is what the Q is talking about. Not that it will expire. Learn something.
The sun is traveling on a journey through the universe. It travels in a straight line. Yesterday it passed by our solar system. Tomorrow, another sun will travel by, and so on and so on. Some suns are farther apart than others. This is why some nights seem longer than others. Sometimes a sun crashes into the Earth (it's final resting place). When this happens, it forms a volcano.
Quote from: Mike Cl on December 28, 2016, 11:14:49 PM
Why must we have god or gods? They are all clearly fiction and that means that polytheism is not any more reasonable than any number of god/s. Theism and reason just do not exist together.
I empirically observe people, I am descriptive. Politics is prescriptive, and I oppose prescription (and proscription). I feel no threat from fiction, though it is very powerful among humans. Reading non-fiction is fine, but dull ... I do both. Your problem and for other regular posters isn't religion, it is politics, and that people don't match your ... your imaginary view of them (how they ought to be). Tomorrowland fail. Fiction in the mirror if you look. That you are not a Star Wars fan, is a tell ;-)
Quote from: Sorginak on December 28, 2016, 11:16:35 PM
The resting place of the sun is from east to west (the sun goes to its resting place in the west), that is what the Q is talking about. Not that it will expire. Learn something.
Perhaps the OP (Q) is referencing Egyptian myth of Re (the Sun dies each night, and travels thru the underworld W to E).
Quote from: islamea on December 27, 2016, 07:57:07 AM
THE SUN WILL EVENTUALLY EXPIRE
And the Sun runs to its resting place.
The Quran does not contain the words (as if) in the Arabic version of this verse.
If the Quran is from your allah does this verse make him look stupid?
www.quran.com/18:86
Quote from: islamea on December 27, 2016, 07:57:07 AM
THE SUN WILL EVENTUALLY EXPIRE
And the Sun runs to its resting place. That is the decree of the Almighty, the All-Knowing. (Surah Ya Sin, 38)
Let's assume for a moment that the quran actually says that.
Logic dictates that either the sun will eventually expire, or its expiration is not eventual. Those are two mutually exclusive and exhaustive possibilities. Without any background knowledge whatsoever, there's a fifty-fifty chance that you will pick the correct of the two possibilities. Further, if you know anything about energy conservation and all that rot, you know that, because the sun radiates energy and no obvious or proposed way to replenish it, the sun will eventually run out of energy to radiate, and thus expire. You get no points for predicting the obvious.
Quote from: islamea on December 27, 2016, 07:57:07 AM
The Sun has been emitting heat for around 5 billion years as a result of the constant chemical reactions taking place on its surface.
The source of energy for the sun comes from nuclear reactions, not chemical. Further, those reactions take place at the core, not the surface.
Quote from: islamea on December 27, 2016, 07:57:07 AM
At a moment determined by Allah in the future, these reactions will eventually come to an end, and the Sun will lose all its energy and finally go out. In that context, the above verse may be a reference to the Sun's energy one day coming to an end. (Allah knows the truth.)
As stated before, this is obvious to anyone with any basic understanding of physics. You don't need a holy book to tell you that. So Allah's knowledge is on the same level of a high school student, if that. If he had guessed blindly, he has a 50-50 chance of getting any given fact correctly.
No, the important knowledge is not IF the sun will go out, but rather HOW LONG the sun has before it goes out, and Allah doesn't tell you
that, does he? But we have a reasonably correct answer, culled from watching other clusters of stars at various ages, and calculations from nuclear physics. The sun has about 5 billion more years shining as a main sequence star. After this time, it will evolve into a red giant for a few million years before sloughing off its outer layers and becomes a white dwarf, whereupon all significant radiation ceases and the sun will be effectively dead.
Quote from: islamea on December 27, 2016, 08:43:21 AM
i m wrting an information about my relegion .... are you horrified ... yes you are because you know that islam is the relegion of true
( وَاÙ,,Ø´ÙŽÙ'Ù...Ù'س٠تَجÙ'رÙÙŠ Ù,,ÙÙ...ÙسÙ'تَÙ,َرÙÙ' Ù,,َهَا )
in surah of yassin 38 or /40-38/ (38) And the sun runs his course for a period determined for him: that is the decree of (Him), the Exalted in Might, the All-Knowing.
hey... speak respectly why that world " rudeness
i m seif from algeria i m muslim
I declare that the Sun will one day run out out of hydrogen, helium, and derived elements some day. Therefore, I must be a deity. Worship ME with chocolates, money, and Good TV Shows! Despair if not provided!!!
Quote from: Cavebear on January 01, 2017, 07:19:40 AM
I declare that the Sun will one day run out out of hydrogen, helium, and derived elements some day. Therefore, I must be a deity. Worship ME with chocolates, money, and Good TV Shows! Despair if not provided!!!
All humans are demi-gods, busy worshipping themselves ;-)
It's refreshing to see muslim woo woo in here rather than the usual christian kind.
Quote from: islamea on December 27, 2016, 07:57:07 AM
In that context, the above verse may be a reference to the Sun's energy one day coming to an end.
And Jonathan Swift predicted that Mars had two moons and correctly gave their orbital distances and periods within an order of magnitude 150 years before they were actually discovered. So by the standard you have just set up, that means
all of
Gulliver's Travels is absolutely true.
Quote from: Baruch on January 01, 2017, 11:30:56 AM
All humans are demi-gods, busy worshipping themselves ;-)
Most people actually only worship particular
parts of themselves...
:jamband:
Quote from: Jason78 on January 01, 2017, 01:57:48 PM
It's refreshing to see muslim woo woo in here rather than the usual christian kind.
There's a difference?
Hi
@islamea . This is a new drawing I did. Does this communicate some of the science miracles of Islam? It is Muhammad about to plow some sort of farm animal with his penis. I think it is pretty good, if you ask me. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170104/028541a484f721e4682d37a50a6dfc5d.jpg)
Sent from your mom.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on January 04, 2017, 12:40:13 AM
Hi @islamea . This is a new drawing I did. Does this communicate some of the science miracles of Islam? It is Muhammad about to plow some sort of farm animal with his penis. I think it is pretty good, if you ask me. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170104/028541a484f721e4682d37a50a6dfc5d.jpg)
Sent from your mom.
Aren't you the one who told us not to post genitalia on the site? [emoji12]
Equal opportunity butt-stabber.
Islamea has left the building. Last active 27 Dec.
Unlikely that he will post again.
Whatever happened to the left - Muslim alliance? Didn't you get the memo?
'The Future Must Not Belong To Those Who Slander The Prophet Of Islam' - Obama
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on January 04, 2017, 12:57:20 AM
Aren't you the one who told us not to post genitalia on the site? [emoji12]
Equal opportunity butt-stabber.
pshhh. it's for "sience"
Quote from: pr126 on January 04, 2017, 01:00:05 AM
'The Future Must Not Belong To Those Who Slander The Prophet Of Islam' - Obama
Yeeeeeeaaahh... I kinda forgot he said that.. would have liked to not remember he said it either.
oh well, when in Rome.
(http://i.imgur.com/pdrVosV.jpg)
(btw that is a unicorn riding to the moon, just like in the quran)
Quote from: Baruch on January 01, 2017, 11:30:56 AM
All humans are demi-gods, busy worshipping themselves ;-)
Baruch, would you PLEASE stop "liking" me. It is somewhere between "automatic" and "annoying". It takes the meaning out of "liking". Personally, I think you are an idiot.
Quote from: Cavebear on March 02, 2017, 04:18:06 AM
Baruch, would you PLEASE stop "liking" me. It is somewhere between "automatic" and "annoying". It takes the meaning out of "liking". Personally, I think you are an idiot.
OK ... but sometimes you are actually coherent. Your loss.
Quote from: Baruch on March 02, 2017, 06:42:46 AM
OK ... but sometimes you are actually coherent. Your loss.
I'll willingly suffer it. You really ARE annoying most of the time. I don't live for LIKES and I sure don't need yours.
Quote from: islamea on December 27, 2016, 07:57:07 AM
THE SUN WILL EVENTUALLY EXPIRE
And the Sun runs to its resting place. That is the decree of the Almighty, the All-Knowing. (Surah Ya Sin, 38)
http://isslamea.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-sun-will-eventually-expire-and-sun.html
(http://isslamea.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-sun-will-eventually-expire-and-sun.html)
The Sun has been emitting heat for around 5 billion years as a result of the constant chemical reactions taking place on its surface. At a moment determined by Allah in the future, these reactions will eventually come to an end, and the Sun will lose all its energy and finally go out. In that context, the above verse may be a reference to the Sun's energy one day coming to an end. (Allah knows the truth.)
The Arabic word "limustaqarrin" in the verse refers to a particular place or time. The word "tajree" translated as "runs," bears such
meanings as.... read more at http://isslamea.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-sun-will-eventually-expire-and-sun.html (http://isslamea.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-sun-will-eventually-expire-and-sun.html)
How can you say "constant chemical reactions taking place on its surface" when, in fact, the chemical reaction is taking place inside the sun, not on it's surface.
Maybe the sun (which will not "expire"), but will "self destruct" in some 5 billion years which is meaningless since no will be around to see it.
Actually I'm wondering if the day the sun "expires" will be the day Jesus returns.
Oh, and welcome to the forum.
I think this islamea is another poster I'll have to ignore. Cho baby!
Quote from: islamea on December 27, 2016, 07:57:07 AM
The Sun has been emitting heat for around 5 billion years as a result of the constant chemical reactions taking place on its surface.
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/010/193/5d6.jpg)
The necro is strong in this one.
Quote from: Ro3bert on April 14, 2017, 12:05:42 AM
How can you say "constant chemical reactions taking place on its surface" when, in fact, the chemical reaction is taking place inside the sun, not on it's surface.
Maybe the sun (which will not "expire"), but will "self destruct" in some 5 billion years which is meaningless since no will be around to see it.
Actually I'm wondering if the day the sun "expires" will be the day Jesus returns.
Oh, and welcome to the forum.
Take an introductory science class. You might actually learn something.