Some UK group studying Hubble telescope data has calculated there are around 2,000,000,000,000 galaxies in the observable universe. That's 10 times more than the previous estimate of 200 billion.
So basically, it's going to take forever to map it all out.
Assuming we had a Tardis, it would still take forever to visit them all.
That throws the Dark Energy calculation into disarray ... good! Underestimating visible matter is a major cosmological problem then.
"The not-visible universe is to the visible universe as the visible universe is to a marble here on Earth."
Lots of, ahem, space for things we don't yet.
Human ignorance is permanent ... all else is fiddling around with the edges of ignorance.
There is an event horizon out there. Things that happened or happen beyond the time and space that we can observe in our particular place in space and time. We don't know and can't know what is beyond that. Simply because of the speed of light.
Gerard
Quote from: Gerard on October 14, 2016, 05:59:16 PM
There is an event horizon out there. Things that happened or happen beyond the time and space that we can observe in our particular place in space and time. We don't know and can't know what is beyond that. Simply because of the speed of light.
Gerard
In others words, there is 14 billion years of history we can't see yet.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on October 13, 2016, 10:51:31 PM
Some UK group studying Hubble telescope data has calculated there are around 2,000,000,000,000 galaxies in the observable universe. That's 10 times more than the previous estimate of 200 billion.
But.... we're the people god made. And what we do, and how we act, and what we think are of the utmost importance to him.
Quote from: Johan on October 14, 2016, 08:42:03 PM
But.... we're the people god made. And what we do, and how we act, and what we think are of the utmost importance to him.
Early modern man, when he first got a good measurement for how big the solar system is ... started to get your point. There is a whole lot of nothing out there, and the Earth is tiny. Until then, the Cosmos was small and tidy.
Quote from: Johan on October 14, 2016, 08:42:03 PM
But.... we're the people god made. And what we do, and how we act, and what we think are of the utmost importance to him.
And thus there is a center to the universe no matter what that Tyson person says! /cousins
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on October 13, 2016, 10:51:31 PM
Some UK group studying Hubble telescope data has calculated there are around 2,000,000,000,000 galaxies in the observable universe. That's 10 times more than the previous estimate of 200 billion.
"Observable universe." So there could be many, many more than we can currently observe. And each one has millions of stars. And people still doubt that life could have happened randomly in this freaking massive universe? Christ. I can't even imagine anything that big.
Quote from: Blackleaf on October 15, 2016, 11:02:40 AM
"Observable universe." So there could be many, many more than we can currently observe. And each one has millions of stars. And people still doubt that life could have happened randomly in this freaking massive universe? Christ. I can't even imagine anything that big.
You don't have to. Astronomy AA ... one planet at a time ;-)
And gawd made it all for us humans. Even the parts we will never observe. Because Jesus.
Quote from: Atheon on October 15, 2016, 08:49:57 PM
And gawd made it all for us humans. Even the parts we will never observe. Because Jesus.
They lived in simpler times (over 400 years ago) ... some people still do. But why the hate?
Quote from: Baruch on October 15, 2016, 11:09:46 PM
They lived in simpler times (over 400 years ago) ... some people still do. But why the hate?
It's not for the people currently living in simpler times. It's for the people enjoying all the fruits of the age we live in that still give Jesus credit for all of it. They should know better.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on October 15, 2016, 11:16:16 PM
It's not for the people currently living in simpler times. It's for the people enjoying all the fruits of the age we live in that still give Jesus credit for all of it. They should know better.
They are culturally schizoid. First generation immigrant Muslims living in the West have the same problem. Of course even intergenerationally we see it with natives in the West.
most people can't handle large numbers, a trillion to them is not much larger than ten thousand, and ten thousand is not big at all…stupid atheists..
Quote from: Baruch on October 15, 2016, 11:09:46 PM
They lived in simpler times (over 400 years ago) ... some people still do. But why the hate?
That's an example of how some of my cousins think right now. Their children are stuck in a cycle of poverty because the parents won't let them go to real schools.
Quote from: Baruch on October 15, 2016, 11:09:46 PM
They lived in simpler times (over 400 years ago) ... some people still do. But why the hate?
People can believe what they want. Just don't base legislation, public education, or public policy on religion.
Far better to base government on free use of ganja ... at least the government folks will be more mellow ... not likely to start nuclear wars to increase their Foundation kitty.
Quote from: Baruch on October 16, 2016, 08:55:35 AM
Far better to base government on free use of ganja ... at least the government folks will be more mellow ... not likely to start nuclear wars to increase their Foundation kitty.
"A gram is better than a damn."
As the technology put into our telescopes improve, we will be able to see vastly more details in our universe. There are probably vastly more galaxies in our universe than just 2 trillion, but we will not know until these new telescopes become available. Within the next decade, the next generation of telescopes will be out, and we will be able to see details on planets within a certain amount of light-years. A confirmed planet that will be able to be observed is Alpha Centauri B, but it won't be limited to planets, we will pick up details in our universe as well, further increasing the knowledge of how many galaxies there are in our universe.
Think of all the stars and planets that must be out there. The possibility of other life being out there is very high, the possibility of us observing it ever? Very, very low.
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on November 24, 2016, 07:47:52 PM
Think of all the stars and planets that must be out there. The possibility of other life being out there is very high, the possibility of us observing it ever? Very, very low.
With a telescope, we can be cosmic voyeurs ... Peeping Toms.
2 trillion, is two hundred thousand loads, of the number of paper bills in this image(12 forklift-palates of hundred dollar bills, not ones):
(http://www.internetdict.com/wp-content/uploads/related_images/2016/01/22/how-much-is-one-billion-dollars_1.jpg)
And that's the number of GALAXIES! I wonder what that translates to, in terms of STARS!
I see each one as a spin of the cosmic roulette-wheel, that blessed us with the peculiar, random convergence of conditions, that produced and sustained life on our planet.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on October 14, 2016, 06:38:56 PM
In others words, there is 14 billion years of history we can't see yet.
14 billion years, since the visible universe began. But who's to say that's the only one. There could be a vast number of other multi-galactic masses out there, exerting a weak gravitational force on our own. Some miight even be older.
Quote from: Solomon Zorn on November 26, 2016, 06:58:40 AM
2 trillion, is two hundred thousand loads, of the number of paper bills in this image(12 forklift-palates of hundred dollar bills, not ones):
(http://www.internetdict.com/wp-content/uploads/related_images/2016/01/22/how-much-is-one-billion-dollars_1.jpg)
And that's the number of GALAXIES! I wonder what that translates to, in terms of STARS!
I see each one as a spin of the cosmic roulette-wheel, that blessed us with the peculiar, random convergence of conditions, that produced and sustained life on our planet.
Ah, there is the money that the R-party "lost accidentally" during the occupation of Iraq. Can we get it back?
Quote from: Solomon Zorn on November 26, 2016, 07:13:27 AM
14 billion years, since the visible universe began. But who's to say that's the only one. There could be a vast number of other multi-galactic masses out there, exerting a weak gravitational force on our own. Some miight even be older.
We can "see" the 3.5K radiation ... so that is scientific. Attempts have been made ... so far failed ... so "see" earlier than that (gravitational wave polarization). As far as other stuff goes, if you can't even "see" it ... it isn't scientific.