Kerigan lays it right out how current rubes sold their soles for Trumpism and should be made to pay the price..
Interesting read..www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-cowardly-gop-has-engineered-its-own-suicide/2016/10/11/ec585af8-8f22-11e6-a6a3-d50061aa9fae_story.html?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na&utm_term=.059b9006cede
QuoteAfter years of railing against the Obama administration’s “reset,†the leading Republican spokesmen on this issue said little and did nothing when their own nominee spoke admiringly of Russian President VladiÂmir Putin and when his closest advisers were discovered to be intimately connected to the Kremlin and found to be lobbyists for Putin’s puppets in Ukraine or Gazprom’s pipeline plans. They were silent when Trump went so far as to urge the Russian intelligence services to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails. These are the political leaders who are supposed to stand up to the world’s real strongmen in Moscow and Beijing. Yet they did not stand up to this bullying would-be authoritarian when all he could do was steal away a few of their voters. They would not risk five points in their primary campaigns to stop this man from becoming commander in chief. They were willing to damage U.S. national interests, as they define them, to avoid a close race. These are the men and women to whom we should entrust the nation’s welfare?
I think it's a rare politician of either party that wouldn't sell a few Americans down the road for his own personal gain. But to do this, they need an ardent following. If the Republican Party appealed only to the top 2% of the wealthy, they would never win an election, so through lies and deception they recruited a part of the lower class that happens to be single issue ultra religious gun loving fanatics who pass their time formulating perceptions of America by watching Jerry Springer and other reality shows on TV. So it's no surprise that that part of the base they depend on so much chose a realty TV host to be the Party's candidate for president.
What did the Party inner circle expect would happen? If they continually made promises but failed to deliver, they were bound to eventually lose control of even the most easily manipulated part of their base. It could happen to the Democrats too. Politicians need to deliver. They need to work for the common good. It's kind of implied in their job description. You keep fucking with people for your own advantage, and eventually there is payback, especially during troubled times when the backs of the masses are used to support the wealthy. You can't keep telling the poor that things are getting better when people can't provide for their families.
People get desperate, and that's bad for the country. People start thinking emotionally, and politicians who fan the flames of hatred and bigotry for their personal gain will end up with a frustrated and hateful base that will grab at straws thinking that any change might be a change for the better, and is therefore worth the risk.
I think Trumpster Fire is finally up shits creek. The pussy tape was just the tip of the iceberg and his way of deflecting it and trying to tell us it's ok because Bill was worse just isn't going to fly. It's getting to the point where his only real base now are poor white men with too many axes to grind.
Pretty much all Trump has left supporting him are brain-damaged, knuckle-dragging Neanderthals.
Quote from: Atheon on October 13, 2016, 03:22:16 AM
Pretty much all Trump has left supporting him are brain-damaged, knuckle-dragging Neanderthals.
Present enemies, are tomorrow's allies. Don't burn bridges.
The white supremacists, fascists and theocrats will never be my allies.
Funny thing about statistics..if you have 1000000, one million people with $10,000 each and one guy with 10 billion dollars in your town the average citizen has 19,999.98. Try telling a million people they have almost twice as much as they actually do.
Demonizing political opponents, doesn't look any better for an atheist, than demonizing religious opponents looks better for a theist.
So, Blue FEMA camp for you then? Wouldn't want to be mistakenly put into the Red FEMA camp ;-(
Mind you, I get mad at groups of people too, I just don't go to far with it.
Quote from: Atheon on October 13, 2016, 03:22:16 AM
Pretty much all Trump has left supporting him are brain-damaged, knuckle-dragging Neanderthals.
The Psychology Behind Donald Trump's Unwavering Supporthttps://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201609/the-psychology-behind-donald-trumps-unwavering-support
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Essentially, they’re not smart enough to realize they’re dumb. ...
Right, some shrink sat down with all those people, at $200 per hour, and looked into their souls? Like I am going to believe that. Simple demonizing, unfit for anyone posting here.
Quote from: Psychology articleEssentially, the loyalty of Trump supporters may in part be explained by America’s addiction with entertainment and reality TV. To some, it doesn’t matter what Trump actually says because he’s so amusing to watch. With Donald, you are always left wondering what outrageous thing he is going to say or do next. He keeps us on the edge of our seat, and for that reason, some Trump supporters will forgive anything he says. They are happy as long as they are kept entertained.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1FFVWEQnSM
A nation of videots. No wonder candidates both R and D ... despise voters. Too bad no one is paying attention, while being entertained.
Have you read 'They Also Ran'? If not, you should.
Quote from: Cavebear on October 15, 2016, 07:27:53 AM
Have you read 'They Also Ran'? If not, you should.
Nope. Alternative history is even more whacked than real history (if they ever tell the truth about it).
Quote from: Baruch on October 13, 2016, 12:57:41 PM
Demonizing political opponents, doesn't look any better for an atheist, than demonizing religious opponents looks better for a theist.
So, Blue FEMA camp for you then? Wouldn't want to be mistakenly put into the Red FEMA camp ;-(
Mind you, I get mad at groups of people too, I just don't go to far with it.
Demonizing racists... there's nothing wrong with that. They have already done that to themselves. Racism is objectionable, dare I say "evil", by any rational standard. No way I would ever side with them.
Here is the latest bumper sticker making the rounds. On the way to work today I was passed by a big, loud four-wheeler with a huge Confederate flag flying from a pole mounted on the truck bed and numerous Trump stickers. I anticipated this backlash would happen after gay marriage was made legal in NC.
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14570324_10209234003699642_4200947329372065993_n.jpg?oh=70d377ca3541c2511f6eb8e3f18e5be9&oe=589F3BEF)
Quote from: Atheon on October 13, 2016, 03:22:16 AM
Pretty much all Trump has left supporting him are brain-damaged, knuckle-dragging Neanderthals.
Some of whom are women saying things to the effect of, "Trump can grab mine anytime." Once people pick a demagogue, it seems, they are hell-bent on going down with that ship.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on October 15, 2016, 09:49:10 PM
Here is the latest bumper sticker making the rounds. On the way to work today I was passed by a big, loud four-wheeler with a huge Confederate flag flying from a pole mounted on the truck bed and numerous Trump stickers. I anticipated this backlash would happen after gay marriage was made legal in NC.
I sometimes wish the South
would secede again so we can quit dumping money into those states, which almost all get more federal dollars than they pay in to the system (as is the case for most red states) (https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/). Then the rest of us can quit sending our money there and get on with trying to make a less sucky society.
However, I anticipate that the North would have a liberal immigration policy for the sane people stuck down there. :)
Quote from: Atheon on October 15, 2016, 08:53:28 PM
Demonizing racists... there's nothing wrong with that. They have already done that to themselves. Racism is objectionable, dare I say "evil", by any rational standard. No way I would ever side with them.
Well you have strong standards. What about Jews who want all Gentiles exterminated? I see extreme emotion as ... insane. I am insane like that part of the time too.
Quote from: trdsf on October 15, 2016, 10:52:42 PM
I sometimes wish the South would secede again so we can quit dumping money into those states, which almost all get more federal dollars than they pay in to the system (as is the case for most red states) (https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/). Then the rest of us can quit sending our money there and get on with trying to make a less sucky society.
However, I anticipate that the North would have a liberal immigration policy for the sane people stuck down there. :)
I agree it is tempting. The South should be wary of getting what it wishes. It would be a 3rd world nation in a decade and come into Northern economic rule soon thereafter.