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Title: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: worldslaziestbusker on June 01, 2013, 04:17:27 AM
Since threads hereabouts keep disappearing into the ether, I thought I'd re-cap the four I've contributed to in this section in the last two years by stating that Buddhism is as much a bossy, evidence free ideology as any of the Abrahamic religions, and has been the cause, or used as an excuse for, considerable harm through the course of human history.  Buddhism continues to offer a rationalisation for bias to become prejudice, for prejudice to act as the spur to harm, and fails to prevent that harm being prevented while failing to ensure justice for that harm is served by due processes.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Solitary on June 01, 2013, 11:03:43 AM
What Buddha taught originally was nothing like what the various schools taught even in his own time. It has been corrupted by the Judeo-Christian-Islamic-religions.  There were no prayers, rituals, God or gods, absolute dogma in his original teachings, and he never believed what he taught was of divine intervention or that he was a god, even though the Hindu religion claims he is. It was, and is, a good philosophy to live by, nothing more. Bill
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Post by: Colanth on June 01, 2013, 01:21:23 PM
A large part of what the Buddha taught was "question everything - even this".  Sounds like skepticism to me.

It's like Christianity, though - most of what Paul taught isn't part of Christianity, and most of Christianity bears little, if any, relationship to what Paul taught.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Aupmanyav on June 11, 2013, 03:39:55 AM
Quote from: "Solitary"
.. or that he was a god, even though the Hindu religion claims he is.
Being made an avatara is hindu way of recognizing the merit of a person. Buddha was accepted as a full avatara of Lord Vishnu. There are many lesser ones who were accepted as 'leela avataras' or 'amsha avataras' (part avataras). Some saints are accepted as avataras of the things that Lord Vishnu holds or wears, like the Chakra (discuss), the mace, the conch, the jewel (Syamantaka), Rishabhadeva of the jains and Kashyapa of the buddhists are other such examples. Vedavyasa or Sankaracharya also are avataras. This is like awarding the Nobel or some other prize in philosophy, religion, and social action.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Shiranu on June 11, 2013, 09:43:32 AM
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I thought I'd re-cap the four I've contributed...

So... nothing?
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Aupmanyav on June 11, 2013, 11:28:40 AM
Sikhism also accepts avataras. Their book accepts 23 (as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avataras#In_Dasam_Granth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avataras#In_Dasam_Granth)) which includes all the ten hindu avataras as well as Rudra (Shiva), Buddha, Arihant Dev (Mahavira of the jains), Suraj (Sun, mithra), Chandar (Moon) and Manu.

The basic fact is that Indian religions do not break each others' idols, do not break each others' heads, respect each other, do not pull each others legs, and try to live together peacefully in stark contrast with the Abrahamic religions.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Colanth on June 11, 2013, 02:43:41 PM
Quote from: "Aupmanyav"
Quote from: "Solitary"
.. or that he was a god, even though the Hindu religion claims he is.
Being made an avatara is hindu way of recognizing the merit of a person. Buddha was accepted as a full avatara of Lord Vishnu.
That's what the Hindu religion made of the Buddha's teachings, that's not what the Buddha taught.  And I'd sooner believe that he knew what he was teaching, than that some other group knew what was in his mind better than he did.

When talking about what someone believed, or what he taught, bringing in what someone else interpreted the teachings as is an incompetent argument, at best.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Aupmanyav on June 12, 2013, 01:57:46 PM
Quote from: "Colanth"
That's what the Hindu religion made of the Buddha's teachings, that's not what the Buddha taught.  And I'd sooner believe that he knew what he was teaching, than that some other group knew what was in his mind better than he did.
The buddhists accept six historical buddhas. 'Advaita', which is close to buddhism is older than buddhism. It is mentioned in the Vedas and Upanishads. Where did Gautama got his views and his language - from hinduism and Sanskrit. Buddha did not bring out his religion from a vaccum.

However, the dispute does not affect me. For me, all the three jainism, buddhism, and sikhism are sects of hinduism, 'matas' (opinions), 'panthas' (roads). They had different emphases - jainism had non-violence and avoidance of pleasures, buddhism had anatta and compassion, sikhism has monotheism. There are other sects too in hinduism. Even Buddha mentions six in his Samannaphala sutta. And that is only in his region, Magadha. And Magadha is but just one part of India.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Colanth on June 12, 2013, 06:59:30 PM
Quote from: "Aupmanyav"
Quote from: "Colanth"
That's what the Hindu religion made of the Buddha's teachings, that's not what the Buddha taught.  And I'd sooner believe that he knew what he was teaching, than that some other group knew what was in his mind better than he did.
The buddhists accept
That's what I said - I'd sooner accept his own words than what some other people "accept".  If I "accept" that I'm the President of the US, it does nothing to Mr. Obama's status.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Aupmanyav on June 13, 2013, 12:42:28 AM
Apart from the crap about devas, rebirth, heaven, hell, etc., which IMV were said for the level of understanding that his audience had, Buddha's words or what we have received as Buddha's words are divine and allow us to cross the stream. Divine, since was he not the ninth avatara of Lord Vishnu?

"Nindasi yajna-vidher ahaha sruti-jatam, sadaya-hridaya;
darsita-pasu-ghatam  kesava dhrita-buddha-sarira."

(You decry the sacrifice performed according to the rules of Vedas, compassionate heart;
seeing the slaughter of animals, O Keshava! who have assumed the form of Buddha!)
Dashavatara Stotra (the hymn of ten avataras) - Jayadeva, early 13th century http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha_in_ ... _of_Vishnu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha_in_Hinduism#Buddha_as_an_avatara_of_Vishnu)

We appropriated buddhism long before buddhism became a separate religion. ;)
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Colanth on June 13, 2013, 11:22:24 PM
Quote from: "Aupmanyav"
Apart from the crap about devas, rebirth, heaven, hell, etc., which IMV were said for the level of understanding that his audience had, Buddha's words or what we have received as Buddha's words are divine
According to you, not according to the Buddha.

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We appropriated buddhism long before buddhism became a separate religion. ;)
You "appropriated" something that you wanted, not what the Buddha said.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Aupmanyav on June 14, 2013, 11:52:38 AM
We understand what Buddha said very well, he spoke our language. He will remain the ninth avatara of Lord Vishnu till hinduism exists. (And hinduism is 'Sanatan', eternal. It will always remain)

See, how earnestly he asked his followers to follow 'dharma' and what praise he had for 'brahmanas'. :)
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Aupmanyav on June 29, 2013, 06:59:55 AM
Just a reminder - It is 'Bodhi' tree and not 'Bhodi' tree. It derives from PIE vid. (to know) just as Veda also.

"Bodhi is an abstract noun formed from the verbal root budh (to awake, become aware, notice, know or understand) corresponding to the verbs bujjhati (P?li) and bodhati or budhyate (Sanskrit). Also from the same root are the Sanskrit words bodha (also meaning knowledge or intelligence) and buddhi which is the exact equivalent to the Greek word nous." Wikipedia
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: mykcob4 on August 09, 2013, 05:52:28 PM
I find it funny that Hindi's actually claim Buddha as their own. He was a prince but that is where it ends. His awakening was a manifestation of his own thoughts and isn't part of any religion. Just because people started adopting him and then teaching their own religion and politics doesn't make the Buddha part of them in any way. I also find it odd that there are sects of buddhism. Since he wasn'r a god, a prohet, or anything to do with the supernatural why would they not only create a religion but actually break off into sects. I mean pilgrams migrate to different parts to pray to him. In his time he would have explained that was worthless. Buddha was practical and secular. The higher level that he spoke of was becoming one with nature and understanding the natural rythmn and harmony of nature. The all seeing eye was about observation and finding inner peace. It wasn't a cult or a religion, it was an understanding.
The corruption of this philosophy into a religion is one of the greatest travesties the world has ever known.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Shiranu on August 09, 2013, 05:56:15 PM
Wow, this thread... haven't seen it in ages.

Sam Harris on Buddhism

http://www.samharris.org/site/full_text ... he-buddha/ (http://www.samharris.org/site/full_text/killing-the-buddha/)

Good read, imo.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Aupmanyav on August 11, 2013, 02:24:33 AM
Quote from: "mykcob4"
I find it funny that Hindi's actually claim Buddha as their own. He was a prince but that is where it ends. His awakening was a manifestation of his own thoughts and isn't part of any religion. Just because people started adopting him and then teaching their own religion and politics doesn't make the Buddha part of them in any way.
I find no difference between hinduism and buddhism. Making one into a God is our way of honoring a person, sort of a Nobel Prize. We have a full Noble Prize and also partial Nobel Prizes which were awarded to people like Kassapa of the buddhists and Rishabha of the Jains. We term them as 'Amsha Avataras', partial emanations). We have even more divisions of the prizes for lesser mortals.

"The various avatars categorized in many different ways. For example: Purusavatara is the first avatara; Gunavataras are represented by the Trimurti (Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva) who each preside over one of the Gu?as (rajas, sattva, and tamas); Lilavataras are the well-known ones, and include Avesavataras (beings into whom part of God Himself has entered) and saktyamsavesa (into whom only parts of His power enter); Kalpa-, Manvantara-, and Yuga-avataras descend during different cosmic ages." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar#Avatars_of_Vishnu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar#Avatars_of_Vishnu)

The buddhists are at liberty to consider Buddha in any way they like, for us he is the ninth avatara of Lord Vishnu.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: St Giordano Bruno on November 18, 2013, 05:36:44 PM
Here we go round the bhodi tree,
The bhodi tree,
The bhodi tree.
Here we go round the bhodi tree
So early in the morning.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Aupmanyav on November 21, 2013, 09:13:43 PM
:)
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: leo on November 22, 2013, 02:14:08 PM
Quote from: "St Giordano Bruno"
Here we go round the bhodi tree,
The bhodi tree,
The bhodi tree.
Here we go round the bhodi tree
So early in the morning.
I like this song.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Hydra009 on November 22, 2013, 02:54:35 PM
Quote from: "Aupmanyav"
I find no difference between hinduism and buddhism. Making one into a God is our way of honoring a person, sort of a Nobel Prize.
Apotheosis seems to be a common occurrence in the premodern world.  I suppose the intent is good, but it can be a dangerous thing when one forgets the man and remembers only the god.  Christianity comes readily to mind as an example of this process going horribly awry.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Shiranu on November 22, 2013, 03:26:24 PM
I know we aren't suppose to run around it, but can we at least sit under it?

(http://http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad231/Shiranu3/IMG_20130522_121315_zpsa6bd9359.jpg)

(Note: I'm not that ugly anymore, obviously :P)
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Aupmanyav on November 23, 2013, 11:43:42 AM
Quote from: "Hydra009"
I suppose the intent is good, but it can be a dangerous thing when one forgets the man and remembers only the god.
Hinduism is receptive. It may have borrowed a lot from Buddhists and Jains.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Buddhist Alternative on March 01, 2014, 11:38:14 PM
Quote from: "Solitary"
What Buddha taught originally was nothing like what the various schools taught even in his own time. It has been corrupted by the Judeo-Christian-Islamic-religions.  There were no prayers, rituals, God or gods, absolute dogma in his original teachings, and he never believed what he taught was of divine intervention or that he was a god, even though the Hindu religion claims he is. It was, and is, a good philosophy to live by, nothing more. Bill

“I don’t know what caused the Big Bang and I don’t know why there is something instead of nothing and that means you don’t know either” – Bill Maher. “I prefer Rationalism over Atheism because the question of God is unknowable. As a Rationalist you don’t have to waste your time either attacking or defending either position” – Issac Asimov. “You should be skeptical of everything, including yourself” – Bertrand Russell. I had to preface this article with the above quotes because, although I am a Buddhist and believe in a Supreme Being, I am a great admirer of the above people. My two B.A.’s are not in Philosophy or Physics, so feel free to tell me that I don’t know what I’m talking about. You may be right. But I would like to open a discourse with my Atheist friends who have a Philosophy that I also admire. That philosophy is: ‘Your Heart should not accept what your Mind rejects’. One of the tenants of Buddhism is that you should not accept anything without thinking. But, I do have a rebuttal for at least two of the statements by some well known, highly intelligent, Atheists:

“If God did not require being created, logic dictates that the Universe did not require being created either” – Michael Shermer. My rebuttal is that the Universe is composed of Matter, Energy, Gravity, Time and Space; all of which require being created. Consciousness however is still a mystery. In fact, if you’re a follower of the Niels Bohr Copenhagen Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics, it is Consciousness that creates Matter. A Supreme Consciousness may very well indeed not have required being created. To those whose explanation of Consciousness is that the Human Brain is so complex that Consciousness ‘somehow’ evolved; you should know that using the word ‘somehow’ poses a lot of philosophical problems and questions. For example, Immanuel Kant in ‘The Critique Of Pure Reason’ surmised that Space and Time are only the relationship of one object to another; but, if we did not have the concept of Space and Time ‘A Priori’ in our Minds before we were born, we would not have been able to relate one sense impression to another. There would be no Awareness or Consciousness.

“Quantum Mechanics allows for a Universe to come into existence out of Nothing” – Lawrence Krauss. I have several rebuttals for this. First, Quantum Mechanics has become all things to all people. Physicist Fred Alan Wolfe in ‘The Spiritual Universe’ claims that Quantum Physics proves the existence of the Human Soul. John Wheeler believes that the strange results in QP experiments suggest that someone is observing the Universe. Secondly, when Dr. Krauss (if I understand him correctly) talks of something coming from nothing – He is talking about Gravity affecting Negative Energy is such a way that virtual particles ‘pop’ into existence which then become real particles. The problem with this, as even physicists who are atheists have pointed out, is that this occurs in Space and in Time within the Universe. The Big Bang occurred in a no-when, no-place, no-gravity. Krauss’s reply is that a true Nothing (no space, no time, no gravity) is unstable. And like all unstable systems, it will eventually collapse in on itself and produce something. I’m not sure how to answer that. In a no-time, how does nothing ‘eventually’ collapse. It should be noted that by the year 2017, there may be satellites in place (according to the Science Channel – ‘How The Universe Works’) that might be able to detect Gravity Waves from a Universe that existed before the Big Bang. One theory is that a part of 2 separate Universes (each as a wave-like membrane) in a Multi-verse, collided, causing the Big Bang. If these Gravity Waves from a previous Universe are detected, that would obliterate Stephen Hawkings and Lawrence Krauss’s assertion that the Big Bang came from nothing. Of course, that still leaves the question: ‘What caused the first Big Bang ?’. And if the continuous Big Bangs go back in Infinite Regression – the question is: ‘Why is there something instead of nothing ?’

When I talk with some of my Atheist friends, who I highly regard, I always assert that both positions on the existence of God require a Leap of Faith. Whenever I state that I always get what I call ‘The Tooth-Fairy’ rebuttal. My friends will state that they cannot prove or disprove the existence of the tooth fairy. However, they are still not going to believe in the existence of the tooth fairy until there is substantive scientific evidence. My answer to that is: If you want to stay up all night outside your kid’s bedroom after one of them loses a tooth; and the tooth fairy never shows up – you can reasonably assert that there is no tooth fairy. What you can’t do is to go back in Time to the Big Bang and from a position outside the Universe observe the Big Bang and then state: ‘I was there at the Big Bang and I can tell you that there was no Supreme Consciousness. The whole thing was a product of Spontaneous Creation’. Since you can’t do that, comparing the question of God with the question of the tooth fairy or the spaghetti monster, or whatever, is quite disingenuous. This is why Issac Asimov preferred Rationalism over Atheism and why Buddhists, although they believe in God, assert that the Nature of God is unknowable.

The bottom line is that if you are an Atheist and you state that you don’t belive in God; that is absolutely and perfectly fine. However, if you state, as a matter of fact, that there is no God, you are taking a Leap of Faith and crossing over into the world of Religious Dogma. If you state that a God-belief is stupid, you are a religious fanatic.

If the Question of God or the Nature of God is unknowable, then why do I believe in God ? Well, for me, God is not something I believe in, God is a Supreme Being that my Consciousness is aware of. Of course, what I think I am aware of is not Scientific Proof. So, as a Rationalist, I am willing to place this ‘Awareness’ down as a Belief and put it down in the category of Faith.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Moriarty on March 01, 2014, 11:53:29 PM
Seriously you're going to post the same shit copy and pasted? Pretty weak sauce.........I wanna be a mod so I can ban for spam~
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: stromboli on March 02, 2014, 02:48:35 AM
Hinduism was around long before Buddhism. Hindusim's roots appear during the Harappan period before 1900 BCE.  Siddhartha Gautama's birthday is given as 400 BCE, so Hinduism was well along before Buddhism showed up. Hinduism later adopted some tenets of Buddhism after it became a religion, but it does predate it by some centuries.

And yes, there are many similarities. That is what happens when you have two religions comingling over centuries.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: leo on March 02, 2014, 12:28:15 PM
This buddhist alternative dude is WAY OFFFFFFFFF.   [-(
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: stromboli on March 02, 2014, 03:22:40 PM
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If the Question of God or the Nature of God is unknowable, then why do I believe in God ? Well, for me, God is not something I believe in, God is a Supreme Being that my Consciousness is aware of. Of course, what I think I am aware of is not Scientific Proof. So, as a Rationalist, I am willing to place this ‘Awareness’ down as a Belief and put it down in the category of Faith.

Newsflash there, BA. You are not born with awareness of a supreme being. It is a concept you encounter and either accept or reject. You believe in god because you accepted the concept, period.

This copy/paste crap on different threads is horseshit. People aren't debating you because this is all SOSDD; same old shit, different day. By all means go over on a science forum and debate this shit. Really, they are waiting for you. Don't hesitate.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Shiranu on March 02, 2014, 03:26:53 PM
I did offer a light rebuttal on the other thread he copypasta-d, but I have the feeling he is already on to the next forum :P.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: stromboli on March 02, 2014, 03:28:10 PM
Quote from: "Shiranu"
I did offer a light rebuttal on the other thread he copypasta-d, but I have the feeling he is already on to the next forum :P.

Don't get my hopes up, Shiranu.  :-D
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Solitary on March 02, 2014, 04:14:29 PM
Buddha started off as a Hindu, but to say is still one in his later beliefs is BS, like saying Jesus was a man and later became a God. Buddha never believed he was a god or his teachings were from divine intervention. Buddhism is no more a religion than atheism is, even if both can be considered a religion by one definition of religion as a common belief. What Buddha taught is a good way to live ones life, unless you want to know the supernatural that nobody knows about because they live in the natural world like all people that start superstitious nonsense called religion. Turning Buddhism into a religion is a corruption of his dogma that was not a demand, but a suggestions to live a better life.  :roll: Unbelievable that Christianity, and its dogma, even effects a rational belief system that Buddha had in his later life.  [-X  Solitary
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Aupmanyav on March 06, 2014, 09:27:34 AM
Quote from: "Buddhist Alternative"
Well, for me, God is not something I believe in, God is a Supreme Being that my Consciousness is aware of. Of course, what I think I am aware of is not Scientific Proof. So, as a Rationalist, I am willing to place this ‘Awareness’ down as a Belief and put it down in the category of Faith.
No, my conscience does not tell me anything like that, however you are welcome to hold whatever view you may want to. Of course, science has not explained Big-Bang or Evolution perfectly. Perhaps the answers would not be available in my life-time. So what, we have lived on earth for so many years without answers for everything. I will continue to live with some unanswered questions. They are the spice of life. But I see no reason to accept something for which I find no proof.
Quote from: "stromboli"
And yes, there are many similarities. That is what happens when you have two religions comingling over centuries.
Or when one religion sprouts from another, like Christianity and Islam from Judaism. The similarities with Hinduism are there in Jainism and Sikhism also.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Moriarty on March 06, 2014, 09:32:44 AM
Quote from: "Aupmanyav"
Quote from: "Buddhist Alternative"
Well, for me, God is not something I believe in, God is a Supreme Being that my Consciousness is aware of. Of course, what I think I am aware of is not Scientific Proof. So, as a Rationalist, I am willing to place this ‘Awareness’ down as a Belief and put it down in the category of Faith.
No, my conscience does not tell me anything like that, however you are welcome to hold whatever view you may want to. Of course, science has not explained Big-Bang or Evolution perfectly. Perhaps the answers would not be available in my life-time. So what, we have lived on earth for so many years without answers for everything. I will continue to live with some unanswered questions. They are the spice of life. But I see no reason to accept something for which I find no proof.

My consciousness tells me that I AM the supreme being. Never trust your conscious, it lies to you. I found this out while attempting to walk on water.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Aupmanyav on March 06, 2014, 09:33:53 AM
Quote from: "leo"
This buddhist alternative dude is WAY OFFFFFFFFF.[-(
What about Pure-land Buddhism?
Quote from: "Moriarty"
My consciousness tells me that I AM the supreme being. Never trust your conscious, it lies to you. I found this out while attempting to walk on water.
I am not a supreme being, but I AM ( :lol: ) what constitutes all things in the universe, i.e., Brahman. You too are that - 'Tat twam asi'.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: stromboli on June 05, 2014, 10:53:46 AM
Wow. Resurrecting a year old thread. Jesus would be proud.  :eek:
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Shiranu on June 05, 2014, 05:10:16 PM
If that playful stab is getting to you, you're going to have a bad time.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Shiranu on June 05, 2014, 05:55:21 PM
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I know the fucking internet, it's never a playful stab. It's always "Agree with me or else". I was expecting a intelligent conversation, not more online fuckwaddery. If thats what you guys are, then fuck you.

Obviously you were looking for intelligent conversation; that is why you have flipped your shit by assuming that we are all out to get you. Yup, for rizzles, you dun cum to edumicate us good I betz.

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From arguing about Sega and Super Nintendo at 14 to this...fuck the whole god damn thing. Ban my account or whatever. Buncha creeps. And I could give a fuck less what you assholes think of me, I got welcomed with a bunch of passive agressive angry nonsense, then I get hazzed by some turd with 10000 posts.

A. Cool story, bro.

B. Your intro thread, if I am recalling the one that is yours, came across as insincere and pointless, just like this.

C. Obviously you don't care, that's why you are blowing a gasket over literally shit nothing. And I doubt that will get you banned because we really just don't care about you until you start breaking the rules, spamming (technically fits that first one) or type something worth reading.

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Fuck off.

Sorry, you post stupid shit and lose your shit on a public forum, the public gets to point and laugh and wonder what's wrong with you. If you don't like that, I suggest you shut down your computer/close your laptop/cut your phone screen off, step away and go find a new hobby because we owe you no obligation to "fuck off".
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on June 05, 2014, 06:56:01 PM
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I know the fucking internet, it's never a playful stab. It's always "Agree with me or else". I was expecting a intelligent conversation, not more online fuckwaddery. If thats what you guys are, then fuck you.

From arguing about Sega and Super Nintendo at 14 to this...fuck the whole god damn thing. Ban my account or whatever. Buncha creeps. And I could give a fuck less what you assholes think of me, I got welcomed with a bunch of passive agressive angry nonsense, then I get hazzed by some turd with 10000 posts.

Fuck off.
Calm your tits and lurk moar, kid.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Shiranu on June 05, 2014, 09:26:01 PM
Cool story,  bro.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on June 05, 2014, 09:31:06 PM
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You want sincerity? You won't get it. Internet buddies are not friends. We'd be lucky if 1 out of 10 people would become a friend or care what we think. If you are ready at your keyboards to pounce on "sincerity" from my "intro post". If you don't care what I have to say but still jump on me with some snarky internet 2.0 comment that I'm one year too late, then yeah, do us all a favor and ban me because it doesn't seem like this is a safe place to discuss religion.

I've tried to please internet personalities for years, its all the same. I've got myself banned from some of the best forums out there - because I don't fit in. I don't want to fit in. Yes, I blew a gasket. But I had high hopes that this wasn't just a bunch of dudes ripping dabs and watching anime.

The world isn't a bit playground with no consequences. I get angry online, it affects you guys, and others. You guys made me mad. We most definitely are not going to become internet buddies. These days, anyone would be lucky to talk to 1 person out of 10 that would resonate with them. I saw some real nice replies on my "insincere" introduction. And then the Wilfred guy. What can I do? I didn't have some sophomoric joke about how meaningless life is ready. I'm not gonna have a good time here - it's been said. You guys are combative and so am I when pushed into a corner. But I wasn't looking for a fight. 

There is no reason you should draw so much from some hastily written text. Nothing pisses me off more than a play by play of how I offended your internet rules.

Who we are online is who we are in real life. It never used to be that way, but now it is. So take care, I don't know what the hell you guys expected. Sincerity has no place among strangers you never will meet or want to meet. But if you can take one thing out of this "gasket blow", I never pushed my beliefs on anyone and I didn't damn anyone to hell or defend God. But maybe I should have because that's apparently what this is all about.

I've been the odd man out on some really great internet forums, been to internet get together's as a "goon", and even played...World of Warcraft... I thought I'd give it another go. It's a shame it didn't work out. I'm fighting several addictions and don't have the power to push myself away from checking whatever you wrote back - even though no one gives a damn in "cyber space". So once again - I violated my own personal conduct which is freaking out online. So please ban me. If you don't, get ready for more passive aggressive insincere posts about religion, existence, and really bad anime.

You got plenty of fodder to shoot out your internet cannons. Don't make me lurk, just throw me in with some black powder and shoot this loser out. OK?   
Calm your tits and lurk moar, kid.
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Poison Tree on June 05, 2014, 09:37:52 PM
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Don't make me lurk, just throw me in with some black powder and shoot this loser out.
You can't tell me what to do; you're not my real mom!


Wait, what?
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I got welcomed with a bunch of passive agressive angry nonsense,
here? (http://atheistforums.com/index.php?topic=4941.msg1017943#msg1017943)
Title: Re: Quit running around the Bhodi tree
Post by: Jmpty on June 05, 2014, 10:18:41 PM
" I've got myself banned from some of the best forums out there " Hah. I've been kicked out of WAY better places than this!"